If McDavid leads Oilers to the Cup, could he cement himself among Gretzky and Orr?

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6 күн бұрын

TSN Hockey Insiders Pierre LeBrun and Chris Johnston join Ryan Rishaug to discuss Connor McDavid's legacy if he were to help the Oilers complete the historic comeback in the Stanley Cup Final, Zach Hyman's comments about Edmonton bringing in a lot of Canadian supporters along their run, and more ahead of Game 7.

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@scottb4540
@scottb4540 4 күн бұрын
Sending support to the oilers from Peterborough Ontario. Bring the cup home! From a sens fan!
@voyager11221
@voyager11221 4 күн бұрын
Sending support to the Oilers from Vancouver! Let’s win one for Canada 🇨🇦 🏆
@foreman_spike
@foreman_spike 4 күн бұрын
Thank you 🟠🔵🟢
@cujo505
@cujo505 4 күн бұрын
McDavid will show why he's the best tonight. Let's go Oilers!!!🧡💙
@chrisbeer9425
@chrisbeer9425 3 күн бұрын
😢
@moosejawventure
@moosejawventure 3 күн бұрын
He's crying in the dressing room 😂
@lucdo1278
@lucdo1278 3 күн бұрын
@@moosejawventureI don’t think mcDavid will ever win the cup and he won’t break his own 156 point record. Mark my words
@MosierSocialSolutions
@MosierSocialSolutions 4 күн бұрын
If you’re a TRUE CANADIAN, you’re cheering for Edmonton right now. Toronto, Calgary, Vancouver, Winnipeg, Montreal all of em are rooting for that cup to come home.
@ThirdEye3pic
@ThirdEye3pic 4 күн бұрын
204 Downtown Portage and Main. GO OILERS!
@JungleScene
@JungleScene 4 күн бұрын
im cheering for oilers but i dont agree... especially for west coasters. You wont catch montreal fans cheering for toronto in the finals, and likewise most die hard vancouver and calgary fans arent cheering for oilers. im in vancouver and I know a lot of canucks fans that will never cheer for an alberta team.
@MosierSocialSolutions
@MosierSocialSolutions 4 күн бұрын
@@JungleScene cool story bro 😎
@jonbenjisnomore7935
@jonbenjisnomore7935 4 күн бұрын
​@@JungleSceneI hear ya unfortunately regional biases & provincial rivalries & team rivalries & petty political ideological differences are factors yet emotional intelligence is also a factor BC & Vancouver aren't alone suffering from these maladies that happens in every fanbase just seems more prevalent & pronounced there.😢
@hockeyislife7686
@hockeyislife7686 4 күн бұрын
Yes 🙌
@notrussianbot7318
@notrussianbot7318 4 күн бұрын
Yes, I watched 99 in the glory years, he was not only the most skilled player ever, he was a great captain and led the team so well he made every other player better, not only on his own team, but the league. 97 is right up there.
@petrnekola8530
@petrnekola8530 4 күн бұрын
I think it's too soon for that. He is 100% the best player playing currently, but he is still 27 and has 10 years minimum left. If he stays at his pace and starts dropping only a little at 30+, but accumulates 2x points he has now, yes, he will be among the titans Gretzky, Lemieux and Orr are
@plazmarevenge2098
@plazmarevenge2098 4 күн бұрын
Goals per game are down 30% since the 1980's 7.5 compared to 5.5. Stats are very similar when you figure the difference.
@Jordan_653
@Jordan_653 4 күн бұрын
He doesn't have a resume like Gretzky, but as far as individual skill goes, McDavid is already the greatest hockey player that has ever walked this Earth lol
@Kris-bx5qj
@Kris-bx5qj 4 күн бұрын
Canadiens fan here, please end this drought. this has gone on for way too long, it's been weighing not only on the 7 NHLteams who represent Canada.. but an entire Nation!!!! ..some dont realize the significance of this... i dont think they will until McDavid is presented with Lords Stanleys Cup and we all gather in Unicon to Celebrate something this Country hasn't experienced in 31 years/ if in fact it does happen.. they still have to Win. but i have all the belief in the world for these Oilers. Let's bring the Cup home where it belongs!! 🍁
@saintjohntonystewart
@saintjohntonystewart 4 күн бұрын
In my 41 years on this earth, Edmonton has won the cup the most for any Canadian team while I was alive!!!!! It's coming home to Alberta tonight boys and girls!!!!
@simonbernier9253
@simonbernier9253 4 күн бұрын
Always the disrespect about Mario Lemieux and not including him in the top NHL players of all time. Even Gretzky said he was a better player than him!
@paulg6274
@paulg6274 4 күн бұрын
Lemieux is generally considered the #2. Im surprised they didnt mention him here
@kmg7400
@kmg7400 4 күн бұрын
Lemieux deserves to be mentioned along with Orr & Gretzky.
@michaelmcgrath8005
@michaelmcgrath8005 4 күн бұрын
Top five of all time are Gretzky, Lemieux, Howe, Crosby and McDavid.
@thebullfighter6733
@thebullfighter6733 4 күн бұрын
gretzky always says everyone was better than he was. its called being humble. mario has like 13 records and theyre almost all powerplay or empty net records. Gretzky has 8 of the top 10 regular seasons. in his prime he averaged nearly 2.5 points per game. if you compare mario and wayne at 745 or 915 games played each. Wayne blows mario out of the water. Mario wasnt even remotely close to the 5v5 player Wayne was. mario led the league in 5v5 points 2 out of 17 seasons. while Wayne led the league in even strength points 11 times out of 20. wayne won more and put up better numbers across the board. 8 consecutive MVPS beats the guy who never even won mvp in 2 back to back seasons in his career.
@user-sm3ii5dk1u
@user-sm3ii5dk1u 4 күн бұрын
In virtually all the comments about placing McDavid's achievements against history, Mario is named and noted. All three were amazingly talented players and awesome gentlemen.
@dicmccoy
@dicmccoy 4 күн бұрын
I think if McDavid played in those older era's, his points and goals would be jaw dropping. He'd make Gretzky's numbers look like amateur hour. The reason why is, the equipment is much smaller on the players and goalies back then. It was easier to score. The shooting lanes were more open back then. So the numbers McDavid is posting these days is jaw dropping.
@allanshpeley4284
@allanshpeley4284 4 күн бұрын
It was actually more down to skill level than equipment. Hockey players have gotten much better on average compared to back then. They're faster skaters, move the puck quicker, shoot quicker and harder, etc.
@dicmccoy
@dicmccoy 4 күн бұрын
@@allanshpeley4284 Yes, I agree. That as well.
@LARGO125
@LARGO125 4 күн бұрын
Keep in mind he wouldn't have the same light weight equipment, carbon Fibre sticks, modern skates, or modern training and conditioning. It's almost impossible to say.
@dicmccoy
@dicmccoy 4 күн бұрын
@@LARGO125 Good point.
@HumanBeanbag
@HumanBeanbag 4 күн бұрын
I'm rooting for the Edmonton Hockey Oilers tonight! LFG
@Bossman_240
@Bossman_240 4 күн бұрын
Damn, I hope they get this game, go Oilers
@jebstewart6270
@jebstewart6270 4 күн бұрын
Great speedy awesome Oiler skaters Coffey,Messier,Kurri,Foegele,McLeod,Holloway,& the Great McDavid keep up the Tradition--Win the CUP!!!!
@jebstewart6270
@jebstewart6270 4 күн бұрын
Skinner is for REAL!!!!!🤫
@gerbil7771
@gerbil7771 4 күн бұрын
Hey it’s Chris!! Awesome stuff.
@starbucksguitarM-jc5oy
@starbucksguitarM-jc5oy 4 күн бұрын
McDavid in this era is simply the best...
@maxbolton5227
@maxbolton5227 4 күн бұрын
Hate to bring in a basketball analogy, but this is a similar debate when Lebron won his first few rings. McDavid is an all time player and could win tonight, but greatness is defined by championships. Orr has 2, Crosby has 3, Gretzky has 4, Messier has 6. One will make him one of the best ever, many will make him one of the greatest ever.
@bht824
@bht824 4 күн бұрын
Gretzky has 4
@maxbolton5227
@maxbolton5227 4 күн бұрын
@@bht824 thanks my bad
@user-sm3ii5dk1u
@user-sm3ii5dk1u 4 күн бұрын
So Messier is the best hockey players ever. Maybe add 2 or 3 other metrics.
@davidr5961
@davidr5961 4 күн бұрын
@@user-sm3ii5dk1u You certainly wouldn't want anyone other than Mess , in a game 7
@WildMan576
@WildMan576 4 күн бұрын
Gretzky has 4. Wasn't with edmonton for their 5th and didn't win any after leaving there. Went to the finals in 1993 with the Kings but lost to the Habs
@ThirdEye3pic
@ThirdEye3pic 4 күн бұрын
If the Oilers win tonight and McDavid even gets one point, easy Conn Smythe. But if he gets more than one point... 👀
@jonbenjisnomore7935
@jonbenjisnomore7935 4 күн бұрын
Poor Marcel Dionne never won a Stanley Cup yet is 6th ALL time on the most points list in the NHL. He has to be the most overlooked, underrated, underappreciated player of all time imo. Even Ron Francis & Steve Yzerman get more recognition & respect. Seriously the NHL should create an award in honor of Marcel Dionne & consider it the Rodney Dangerfield Award of Awards. 🤣😢
@pleasegodkillme
@pleasegodkillme 4 күн бұрын
If i seen a Dionne jersey, i would immediately buy the man a beer.🍺
@NatsdadsamI
@NatsdadsamI 4 күн бұрын
Draisaitl is going to have a huge impact on this game.
@freeindeed2u
@freeindeed2u 4 күн бұрын
Connor McSmythe!
@ccgear4367
@ccgear4367 3 күн бұрын
So petty he wouldn't even show up for it.
@cindyrussell1581
@cindyrussell1581 4 күн бұрын
Can't compare McDavid to The great one Wayne's won 4 cups McDavid hasn't won one yet! Maybe tonite.
@GreekboyyD
@GreekboyyD 4 күн бұрын
Different game today. No salary caps back then and teams could load up. Gretzky didn’t win another Cup after leaving Edmonton while the Oilers won another Cup after he left.
@quebecforce111
@quebecforce111 4 күн бұрын
the Goat are Gretzky and second are Mario Lemieux. Third Orr and 4 are Gordie Howe. But Mcdavid have to proves for the 20 next years if he can be dominant like the name i said before
@Anton-kn4gx
@Anton-kn4gx 4 күн бұрын
He is domating the league now though. He is so clear of current players that he is getting compared to gretzky and lemiux.
@NatsdadsamI
@NatsdadsamI 4 күн бұрын
Lol really? Oh wait, you're in Quebec aren't you? He is the 2nd best player ever, by time he's done, he will be the GOAT. There is no comparison to today's players and players of other era's.
@quebecforce111
@quebecforce111 4 күн бұрын
@@Anton-kn4gx yes, but to be ompared with Lemieux or Gretzky you have to dominate for many years. McDavid are young and he have to dominate for 20 years to be in the top 5 greatest of all time.He are the best player in the NHL right now. yes
@quebecforce111
@quebecforce111 4 күн бұрын
@@NatsdadsamI Do you know Lemieux stop to play for alots of years because of back problems and he return 1 year to play with Syd Crosby. That was the rookie season of Crosby and when he return Lemieux are not really in shape oups but surprise he dominate the game. he have 40 years old and he makes 76 points in 43 games. after this year 2000-01 he retired for the third ans last time. Gretzky and Lemieux are the 2 Goats , Lemieux are more skill than Gretzky but Gretzky are not the most spectacular but always be place good place in good times. McDavid are like Lemieux a litle bit, but Lemieux are bigger and have similar hands than McDavid. Lemieux at is prime with no injuries are superior than MCdavid but i have alots of respect for McDavid but he have to prove for the next 20 years or 15 years if he can continue dominating the game like Gretzky ,Lemieux,orr ,Howe or Rocket Richard makes
@quebecforce111
@quebecforce111 4 күн бұрын
@@NatsdadsamI Back in the time of Gretzky and Lemieux the game are alot more togher (agressive) and the hanging are part of the game before.
@chelious1973
@chelious1973 3 күн бұрын
Not mention of Crosby and Lemieux? Crosby wouldn't lose. Guaranteed. Last time I checked Crosby had 3 cups and two gold medals. Lemieux has 2. One cup for McDavid doesn't put him on equal footing. Guy on the right is ridiculous. Karma. 😂 Thanks TSN. Hahahaaaaaa😂
@pubexploit6782
@pubexploit6782 4 күн бұрын
Connor is 100% the most talented player to ever touch the ice.
@Wiredu
@Wiredu 4 күн бұрын
Let’s Go OILERSSSSSSSSSSSSSS 🧡💙🧡💙
@sino3467
@sino3467 4 күн бұрын
Yes, he could
@JollyCanadian
@JollyCanadian 4 күн бұрын
Yes
@Kingsy.
@Kingsy. 4 күн бұрын
LFG Oilers! 🧡💙
@titanmma101
@titanmma101 4 күн бұрын
Some hearts are going to be broken tonight. Take your pick which team. Up 3-0, only to lose..... or ......Comeback from a 3-0 to tie the series 3-3, only to lose.
@mikereim3303
@mikereim3303 4 күн бұрын
Cup draught in Canada ? Every season 15 plus Canadian player win the cup. A Canadian based team hasn’t one a cup since 93. But let’s all be honest the cup spends most of its summer in Canada.
@bodanlunny1323
@bodanlunny1323 3 күн бұрын
Canadian teams can win and have the best team but Bettman is undefeated
@785paris
@785paris 4 күн бұрын
Nope. Let him win a couple more cups. Like Lemeiux, Gretzky and Crosby and many others. Then ask the question again.
@lindas1st
@lindas1st 4 күн бұрын
Win or lose I dont think McD is at the Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux level. But again, win or lose I do think he's at the level just below the "Holy Trinity" ;) with Crosby, Howe & Richard.
@jonbenjisnomore7935
@jonbenjisnomore7935 4 күн бұрын
Nope not yet. Lets wait n see. Maybe close or getting there.
@Jordan_653
@Jordan_653 4 күн бұрын
"What better example if they win it this way" (Florida) is a pretty bad take. This is about the worst way to win the Stanley Cup if they manage to win tonight. But hey, it's still the Stanley Cup haha
@mkultra5752
@mkultra5752 4 күн бұрын
Canada needs this more..shit politics and economic times we need this so bad this country in the tube. So sick of these unpatriotic hockey players taking jobs in the states over their country. Gretz lives in florida fer fucks sake... Oilers are canadas team.. we need this
@davidr5961
@davidr5961 4 күн бұрын
Trump resides in Fla, and is predicting a Panthers win tonight!
@mkultra5752
@mkultra5752 4 күн бұрын
@@davidr5961 i dont think Trump has watched a hockey game!
@davidandersgage-pd3kr
@davidandersgage-pd3kr 4 күн бұрын
Oillllllllllyyyyy in the Streetssssssss Babyyyyy
@empire0
@empire0 4 күн бұрын
Everyone forget about Sid already?
@martym.7700
@martym.7700 4 күн бұрын
Crazy how Trudeau / Freelands and their taxes affects all sorts of things!! That being said, maybe Hockey is the only way for Canadians to come together, bring the CUP HOME to Canada !!🧡💙
@hanetmohamed6182
@hanetmohamed6182 4 күн бұрын
Let him pass sid and ovi first 😭 but yea he’s well on his way
@user-sm3ii5dk1u
@user-sm3ii5dk1u 4 күн бұрын
Sid and Ovi won't ever be in the top 5 players ever debate.
@RemmyRiffs
@RemmyRiffs 4 күн бұрын
As great as McDavid is it's crazy to me to see all of these GOAT conversations he's now being thrown into and he hasn't even WON the Cup yet. Most SKILLED? Yes. GREATEST? If he wins tonight, he will be the greatest player with ONE Cup. Even Crosby has a few. Are we skipping all the greats that came before him due to ONE magical run? Idk... the recency bias in sports is insane to me. McDavid still has a legacy to work on before we call him Gretzky number 2.
@Anton-kn4gx
@Anton-kn4gx 4 күн бұрын
He is on gretzkys level though. He is beating the assist record and the Modern era. In addition he is just a few points clear of all time playoff points
@danmcdonagh8924
@danmcdonagh8924 4 күн бұрын
Every Player ,plays for the Cup. 😅
@roryb.bellows4026
@roryb.bellows4026 4 күн бұрын
Championships define your team, not your individual skill. Claude Provost (who?) has 9 cups and isn't in the Hall of Fame. It should be a team player's single goal every year, but it is just one data point on a career.
@barryfulton4308
@barryfulton4308 4 күн бұрын
Don't compare him to Gretzky, he still has a long way to go before anyone can say that
@archangelgabriel5316
@archangelgabriel5316 4 күн бұрын
And if I win the lottery I'll be rich, gotta play the game. Signs point to yes. But it's hockey, it can change in seconds. Go oil!
@1pbdecoded1pb
@1pbdecoded1pb 4 күн бұрын
Gretzky, Orr, and McDavid? You mean Gretzky, Lemieux, and Crosby. Purposeful disrespect of Sid and Mario. Watch out everybody he'll join Orr and Gretzky. How did Orr get in over Sid and Mario? Bye Felicia.
@theshannan59
@theshannan59 4 күн бұрын
Lemieux
@mattboyko09
@mattboyko09 4 күн бұрын
Panthers had their chance last year and blew it, it’s the Oilers time!!
@Crypto-ef5wr
@Crypto-ef5wr 4 күн бұрын
Lets go Leafs!
@michaelmcgrath8005
@michaelmcgrath8005 4 күн бұрын
The Leafs won’t be raising the cup in our lifetime
@Randy-cd3lg
@Randy-cd3lg 4 күн бұрын
Not even Conor thinks he is more importànt than any one guy
@theshannan59
@theshannan59 4 күн бұрын
Yes of course he needs a cup.
@user-sm3ii5dk1u
@user-sm3ii5dk1u 4 күн бұрын
No, he needs 3 cups, and in a row, to stand out from the old Oilers that couldn't pull that off 2 different times
@salgeoffrey4435
@salgeoffrey4435 3 күн бұрын
He didn't so stop asking
@spencerjohnson5382
@spencerjohnson5382 4 күн бұрын
not gonna lie i have been cheering against the oil the whole playoffs (even though I'm Canadian) and they have proven me wrong every time! I think the oil is gonna bring Lord Stanley back to the great white north on the backs of Mc Jesus
@user-sm3ii5dk1u
@user-sm3ii5dk1u 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for your encouragement, It has fueled the desire and passion to achieve a nearly impossible task lol
@RodCalidge
@RodCalidge 2 күн бұрын
Not so much.
@ccgear4367
@ccgear4367 3 күн бұрын
Nope, another year wasted for him.
@Mikeslife714
@Mikeslife714 3 күн бұрын
He’s not winning a cup ever. We are just going to keep making excuses for him of why he didn’t win every year. Next year will be no different.
@kennethcamilleri4678
@kennethcamilleri4678 4 күн бұрын
This is his chance not to be lump with the likes of Karl Malone, Dan Marino and Mike Trout…..of great super stars in their sport not to win a championship .. God Luck Tonite McJesus…you may not have another chance….seize the moment…Grab The Cup
@moosejawventure
@moosejawventure 3 күн бұрын
Hello Luke Gazdic your Coilers 💩 just lost 😂
@moosejawventure
@moosejawventure 3 күн бұрын
No class crybaby wins the Conn Smythe and doesn't come out 👎
@andygrenn680
@andygrenn680 4 күн бұрын
After the Cup Final Win or Lose the rest of Canada 🇨🇦 can go back to normal forgetting Edmonton Alberta…
@johnnythewalrus2532
@johnnythewalrus2532 4 күн бұрын
LET'S GO OILERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@g00glesucksatprivacy60
@g00glesucksatprivacy60 4 күн бұрын
Mr plug your ears if you are in Calgary needs to watch the videos of what has been going on down on the red mine or now blue & orange mile.
@w1ldcr1pt0
@w1ldcr1pt0 4 күн бұрын
Let's go Edmonton! 🛢9️⃣7️⃣ 🧡2️⃣9️⃣💙
@user-uz1ms8iq5r
@user-uz1ms8iq5r 4 күн бұрын
These announcers a4e full of shit there's no player dead or alive that compares to the great one that's just called fact period
@adamsteele6148
@adamsteele6148 4 күн бұрын
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