If Mike Ehrmantraut Was Charged For His Crimes

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If Michael "Mike" Ehrmantraut Was Charged For His Crimes In Better Call Saul & Breaking Bad
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Michael Ehrmantraut is the deuteragonist of the Breaking Bad franchise, an American career criminal, Marine Corps veteran, and former Philadelphia police officer. Had Mike not been betrayed and shot by Walter White these are the criminal charges he would have faced.
Our exploration extends beyond fiction as we draw parallels to real-world scenarios. We examine cases of real-life criminals and their prosecutions, drawing on legal expertise to examine the likelihood of Mike Ehrmantraut's criminal activities leading to actual charges.
Breaking Bad is an American crime drama television series created and produced by Vince Gilligan for AMC. Set and filmed in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Better Call Saul is an American legal crime drama television series created by Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould for AMC. Part of the Breaking Bad franchise, it is a spin-off from Gilligan's previous series, Breaking Bad.
Please note that the video you are about to watch is entirely fictional and is produced solely for the purpose of raising awareness on the consequences of committing a crime. The scenes depicted in this video are not real and do not reflect any actual events or persons. We do not condone or promote any illegal or unethical behavior, and this video is intended to serve as a cautionary tale to deter individuals from engaging in criminal activity.

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@jamesrobinson4869 Жыл бұрын

Plus the vandalism when he smushed that gum in the ticket machine. Monster.

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

True ❤

@nameynamename3758 11 ай бұрын

add another 120 years to the sentence

@Dariusz_1.618 11 ай бұрын

Actually he was escaping from violence. So fault is definitely reduced, if not to 0.

@jamesrobinson4869 11 ай бұрын

@@Dariusz_1.618 Ha, I never thought of that! Very good analysis.

@mooncat7009 10 ай бұрын

oh come on we have all done it…

@travisbickle3835 Жыл бұрын

Saul Goodman ''Your honor but my client is so cool and badass and he has a granddaughter who he loves so therefore he's not guilty.''

@townofeducation5795 Жыл бұрын

and was a cop and marine so he served the country

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

True ❤😊

@crylune 4 ай бұрын

@@townofeducation5795 What he served was oil corporations

@graylien9336 3 ай бұрын

@@cryluneHe fought in Vietnam, not the middle east or something

@richardplinkett4956 3 ай бұрын

@@graylien9336 Oh so he burned down villages full of women and children? Well that makes all the difference, he's a war hero.

@reanukeeves2k77 Жыл бұрын

He also kidnapped Walter at one point with the intention of killing him. Was only stopped by the death of Gale. Beat the crap out of Walt at that bar too

@shaunakkulkarni4679 Жыл бұрын

He likely wouldn’t have been charged there as Walter wouldn’t press charges. But ig you have to let a few small things go. Mike was a walking felony. I bet that little fight with tuco wasn’t too legal either.

@townofeducation5795 Жыл бұрын

@@shaunakkulkarni4679 didnt tuco threaten him with a gun

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

@@shaunakkulkarni4679True

@doct0rnic 11 ай бұрын

You mean Waltah

@Raptorman0205 9 ай бұрын

@@shaunakkulkarni4679 I mean, the title is "If he were charged for his crimes," meaning it's assumed Walter would press charges. I don't think the victims of the multiple hitmen/cartel members he killed would theoretically press charges either. He's still getting life for killing Hoff & Fensky regardless

@lan9138 Жыл бұрын

so he's just gonna run free after 440 years???!

@FeitanL Жыл бұрын

yes , he went to Germany living the dream taking his niece with him a years later .

@deadsparta6600 Жыл бұрын

Yeah he escaped to Belize

@theneighborskid. Жыл бұрын

and get to watch his niece growing up, getting an education with the money he saved for her, get married, start a family, met his toddler grand nieces, and died of old age remembered as the loving great grand uncle Mike.

@theneighborskid. Жыл бұрын

+ 235,000 fine according to the video.

@TLGame Жыл бұрын

With good behavior, who knows.

@luciano12sa Жыл бұрын

Interesting how from the killing of his son's murderers he's already done for life, even if he got a "good" sentence it means he still probably die in jail. So from that point on he had not much to loose.

@malte291 Жыл бұрын

That's assuming the police actually dig up all of his skeletons. Even when the feds were on to him, they had no idea about Matty's killers. Stuff like the illegal construction charge would probably also be hard to stick to him without witness reports from Gus or the construction workers.

@luciano12sa Жыл бұрын

@@malte291 True that, but I still believe the character was build on the "nothing to loose" mentality, mainly because of his son murder, but I think his revenge also adds to it.

@kamyqas3410 Жыл бұрын

@@luciano12sa True, i think that Mike's ex-policeman mind was also destroyed because of his son's death. He used to serve for his whole life in the good name of police, and then he got litereally backstabbed to say the least

@DrWhom Жыл бұрын

lose

@luciano12sa Жыл бұрын

@@DrWhom thank you very much. I'm still learning.

@MyUsersDark Жыл бұрын

3:48 Just a small correction: He doesn't move Howard's body to the beach, his body is buried, but they move his car and belongings to the beach, to frame a suicide. Still tampering with evidence though 8:22 I'm pretty sure this is actually the hazard pay for Mike's 10 guys, money they receive for not snitching on Mike and his operation.

@pwhite2141 Жыл бұрын

It's both, the small boxes for the payoffs, the large for Kaylee

@slamobamo Жыл бұрын

ong

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

@@pwhite2141True

@beniciounfiltered7861 Жыл бұрын

The fact that Mike gets a bigger sentence than Patrick Bateman Edit: I really respect these replies

@wooshifgay462 Жыл бұрын

Or gus

@lIllIlllIlIllIlllIlIllIlllIl Жыл бұрын

Tbf Bateman is a small time killer compared to Mike who was essentially the tip of the spear in a drug war.

@karacore_ Жыл бұрын

@mickeymouse8627 huh

@coleozaeta6344 Жыл бұрын

@@karacore_ We like the way he says “Waltuh”

@jonasbahn1466 Жыл бұрын

"I've known good criminals and bad cops, bad priests, honorable thieves-you can be on one side of the law or the other, but if you make a deal with somebody, you keep your word." Mike is defined not by the crimes he committed but by why he committed them. Love that old mummy

@Canama139 Жыл бұрын

The gun Mike buys at 1:47 is not an NFA firearm. He is breaking some laws in buying it (since the serial number is defaced) but he is not breaking that specific one.

@RamikinHorde 11 ай бұрын

Was thinking that as well, that's a full length rifle and this not an nfa item

@WastelandWanderer1216 11 ай бұрын

Judging by the stock and bipod it could be a Remington 700 built up to be a M40A1 clone which is not illegal to do. It is Illegal though if the serial number is filed off the gun which is a violation of the NFA IIRC.

@m1xtin Жыл бұрын

Didn’t realize that this was less than an hour old until the video finished

@vulture4117 Жыл бұрын

Still enough time to comment "first"

@SHARKNADO_2006 Жыл бұрын

people who never watched the show but watched this might think that mike survived

@MyUsersDark Жыл бұрын

Not if they read the comments

@Metado42069 Жыл бұрын

he died the most stupidest reason in breaking bad

@SHARKNADO_2006 Жыл бұрын

@@Metado42069 it is stupid, but the scene makes sense tho. It seems like something that could happen given Walter's pride

@user-pt8xx8bp8u Жыл бұрын

@@Metado42069 Walter couldnt take that Mike was the "big man" walter sought to be, the one who provides for his family from the shadows without ever bringing them into that world. His ego couldnt bear it. He was supposed to be a drug kingpin, #1, and he was getting talked down to by this geezer and deep down walter knew mike was right. so he killed him.

@marcel09209 Жыл бұрын

mike was killed by walter white

@cambc9730 Жыл бұрын

I think this is honestly light considering. I think with each of these charges you talked about mike would also get lots of other charges along side each crime.

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

True ❤

@tomkandy 11 ай бұрын

Loads of conspiracy to murder / felony murder charges on top of the murder 1's noted - eg. Don Eladio's death and all his henchmen

@eddiediaz5518 6 ай бұрын

I’m sure there’s tons of other crimes he’s committed, from his time as a corrupt cop to the years between Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad while working for Gus

@townofeducation5795 Жыл бұрын

after all of this, his granddaughter won't receive anything

@yourmum7662 Жыл бұрын

She still has the house if not houses Mike bought, the money he had previously given the mother and I’d assume he has legal money from being a cop and the (madrigal?) money from the Salamanca’s truck. Maybe he gave some to Saul and you’ve seen how loyal Mike is to his people I’d assume they would do the same

@maximusd26 Жыл бұрын

@@yourmum7662 probably all gone

@hhhhhhhhh1071 Жыл бұрын

@@yourmum7662 doubt it since they tracked ALL of Saul's money except what he had on him

@LaloSillymanca Жыл бұрын

@@yourmum7662 Saul was not loyal at all when Jesse wanted to give Mikes family money Saul stopped him and did not care about Mikes death or his family

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

True ❤😊

@IWearShades Жыл бұрын

There's a lot more crimes that were committed but this is a pretty good take on it.

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

True ❤😊

@benwebb4567 9 ай бұрын

Yea theres tons missed and many mistakes. for instance, shooting those cartel members attacking Jimmy wasn't entirely self defence. He shot a guy trying to run away with the money. Also he totally missed Mike's first chronolical on screen crime when he breaks into a police car and plants a gun there.

@DUANEYAISER Жыл бұрын

I don't (or didn't) think Mike shot the supplier in the hand for his disobedience to Gus, I thought it was strictly pragmatic for him to have an injury to make his survival more believable.

@joespagnola9253 Жыл бұрын

probably both

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

@@joespagnola9253lmao ❤

@dolphin082 9 ай бұрын

Yeah but one way or another its the crime that's punish here not the intention behind it

@DUANEYAISER 9 ай бұрын

Yes, I was just addressing exactly what the video said about why Mike did it and how I thought it was inaccurate; not the crime itself.@@dolphin082

@Fenderbassplayer Жыл бұрын

Couple mistakes/oversights: Howard's murder was meant to look like a suicide not an accident. The money in the safe deposit boxes was not just for his granddaughter but also to payoff the other guys in jail to keep quiet.

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

True ❤

@SheldonAdama17 8 ай бұрын

Mike be like “you don’t have enough stickers to charge me with a crime”

@thomasl4821 Жыл бұрын

Wow, this Mike Ehrmantraut fellow is a real criminal! Thanks for sharing.

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

Lmao ❤😊😊

@pink_plasticbag Жыл бұрын

"your honor... in my client's defense, what he did was extremely badass"

@user-hq4yq8cs4f Жыл бұрын

The sound effects while the crimes committed by Mike!! Absolutely amazing. Wow, this Mike Ehrmantraut fellow is a real criminal! Thanks for sharing..

@AjTolly 11 ай бұрын

Don't forget, Mike used to be a corrupt police officer before Better Call Saul, it is probably that the last sentence would be even bigger.

@johncassani6780 Жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure he would have been eligible for the federal death penalty, if they chose to prosecute.

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

True ❤😊😊

@UnknowableThen 9 ай бұрын

You're telling me a single finger did all of this?

@xdanbo1859 Жыл бұрын

In the beginning of the video, it says based on the law in ABQ, NM. While most of these crimes happen there. The first murders of the crooked cops was in Philly. And some of the other crimes happen in Mexico. And the kidnapping of Lydia happen in Texas.

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

True ❤❤😊😊

@slothreacts34 11 ай бұрын

Yes

@madgavin7568 10 ай бұрын

Is Pennsylvania's law on murder much different to New Mexico law?

@stvdagger8074 9 ай бұрын

@@madgavin7568 In Philly, you get your second murder for free!

@user-xc1dz6qr2w Жыл бұрын

Free my boy he didn't do nothin

@slothreacts34 Жыл бұрын

8:18 the smaller safety deposit boxes are for the 9 guys in prison but yes the big one is for Kaylee Ehrmantrout

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

True ❤😊

@becauseicangaming2479 11 ай бұрын

So he's breaking another law by doing a hazard pay because he's paying 10 people money so they won't reveal any information to the DEA.

@slothreacts34 11 ай бұрын

@@becauseicangaming2479 yeah the person missed it it should have been (what I assume was money laundering) x 10

@dogenLIVE 11 ай бұрын

Well ... He better call Saul

@LIRON50 10 ай бұрын

I find it hard to believe that breaking into the police station and destroying all the evidence that was there is only worth two years in prison

@isosta2373 9 ай бұрын

he'd get slapped with like 20 charges lmfao

@kavoro8951 Жыл бұрын

"Illegal purchase and possession of an NFA firearm" Bro bought a Remington 700. That is not an NFA item.💀

@mixazizu 3 ай бұрын

Insulting walter in 5x07: life sentence

@JKBDTS 3 ай бұрын

Death*

@Higinjhhg1123 Жыл бұрын

I love how we all thought this was walters story but it was saul and mikes

@Senate917 Жыл бұрын

Now walter just seems like that new character they introduced to fuck up the original characters which I find hilarious.

@Senate917 Жыл бұрын

@@anon_148 Season 5 just made me hate walter and bcs makes me hate him even more. So that's just how I view it now lol.

@chesterbe76 Жыл бұрын

@@Senate917he just had to ruin it with his goddamn pride and ego

@berthamcdurtha8554 Жыл бұрын

@@Senate917 I love walter white!! more than walter black

@townofeducation5795 Жыл бұрын

@@Senate917 why do people belive thar gus and mike were heroes gus threatened to kill his familt and tried to kill him same with mike he tried to kill him

@raheemraja8471 3 ай бұрын

Saul would bring the sentence down to 2 years probation with a $2150 fine

@toreadoress 3 ай бұрын

Oh to be 65 again, ladies and gentlemen do you remember 65? Yeah you do, if you being honest you will recall you had underdeveloped 65 years old brain.

@Ayrshore Жыл бұрын

The first two murders wouldn't be sentenced in New Mexico though, as they were committed in Pennsylvania.

@mriswith88 5 ай бұрын

Let's not forget the assault Mike committed when he threatened that guy who was abusing his wife... No more half measures, Walter.

@jimbostopmo4513 10 ай бұрын

Saul could probably cut it for 2 hours in community service

@Tanner404 3 ай бұрын

His worst crime was not forgiving waltuh for killing him

@gtrzmbe9390 10 ай бұрын

I was about to say, "Now we need one for Walter." Then I scrolled down in the suggestions.

@novembermoon6869 10 ай бұрын

he did not do any crimes thank you

@darthjam1536 9 ай бұрын

Ah yes, Mike gave his goodbye to Walter, and left town without looking back. *the good ending*

@ComradeKits Жыл бұрын

The Remington M40 Mike purchases is not an NFA Firearm, you could literally purchase that gun in any gunstore. And at the time small person to person purchases like that were still legal in the State of New Mexico (aka the "gunshow loophole"), Mike did nothing illegal in that scene when purchasing that rifle.

@henrikskjolden Жыл бұрын

Nah, he'd walk. We all know who his lawyer is.

@ROMCADRANCH 3 ай бұрын

Saul could probably get that down to 18 months probation

@cshubs Жыл бұрын

Thanks for that. Since we got a number for Saul in prison, Mike deserved one too.

@Xxgust17Xx Жыл бұрын

video deserves 500,000 k views

@whatsup6166 Жыл бұрын

also that obstruction of justice for the evidence room would be for every single case that was affected in that. not just the act

@mitchellreece3711 Жыл бұрын

This is amazing

@TheTrop888 Жыл бұрын

I don't think Howard's body was 'moved to the beach'. His body was buried in concrete with Lalo. Only Howard's car was moved to the beach...as I recall

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

True 😊

@S4n_56 Жыл бұрын

Hey man I love your videos! Could you do one of these with Omar Little from The Wire please?

@iippo06 Жыл бұрын

You know how they say ''it's been a pleasure''? It hasn't.

@DanielcalLundberg 10 ай бұрын

I would not say that the first "self defence" was actually self defence. Mike traveled there to be a sniper to protect Mr Goodman

@JKBDTS 9 ай бұрын

The first guy was definetely killed in legal defence of Saul. Like otherwise Saul would get killed.

@pyrotechnick420 Жыл бұрын

3:47 But Mike didn't take Howard's body to the beach, Howard was buried next to Lalo underneath the lab. Booooo

@dennisdarnell6502 Жыл бұрын

@ 1:48 correct me if I’m wrong but that isn’t an NFA item. The barrel appears to be longer than 16inch and not suppressed. This is just a private transaction

@1lovesoni Жыл бұрын

Yep. It's a M700 rifle, a title 1 firearm. Meaning it has the least restrictions. There's not even a federal age limit of possession of such a weapon.

@spazADHD99 10 ай бұрын

he also gonna have to say sorry...

@neo_blackstar_xx469 11 ай бұрын

Mike was just just pure badass. Always cool even in intense moments

@Richardwells3 Жыл бұрын

While the rifle WAS illegal, it wasn't a NFA firearm. you can buy the gun (Remington M40) OTC at a gun store, granted you pass the background check. It would only be an NFA firearm if the barrel was under 16 inches.

@1lovesoni Жыл бұрын

Thank you, came here to say this myself

@madgavin7568 10 ай бұрын

And I guess the only reason the rifle was illegal was because its serial number was filed off?

@1lovesoni 9 ай бұрын

@@madgavin7568 ok, but that's only a minor violation of the 1968 GCA, not the 1934 NFA.

@Richardwells3 9 ай бұрын

@@madgavin7568 it depends on if Mike was the only person who used that gun. If it was previously used in a crime, then it’s absolutely illegal.

@jsphat81 Жыл бұрын

1:22 That cumbia playing in the truck always cracks me up LOL

@maskedmarvyl4774 6 ай бұрын

They should check back with him in 400 years and see how he's doing.

@mut1565 Ай бұрын

1:08 He was afraid for his life and that of his family.

@jaytalks8091 7 ай бұрын

Awesome. Do Dr. Gregory House (House MD) next!

@ElFortunaLa Жыл бұрын

The sound effects while the crimes committed by Mike!! Absolutely amazing♥

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

LLmao ❤

@Cat-up6hb Жыл бұрын

thats just what we saw on those shows there is an untold number of actions that werent filmed but talked about

@puffinbasher Жыл бұрын

Self defense would never fly on some of these murders. Its done while commiting a major crime, and is a reasonable outcome of the crime, that bars a self defense claim

@KingCarrot500 9 ай бұрын

Talking back to Heisenberg and calling him out on his bullshit: Death Penalty.

@IlovDrug 11 ай бұрын

Mike have more years of sentence than Heisenberg.

@justanadventure7636 Жыл бұрын

i couldn’t believe you showed your sub count and it was that low. the style and quality was amazing. i was shocked. love this keep it up

@zoomerjack5435 6 ай бұрын

We also can’t forget about assaulting Walt’s ego

@Maledicted 9 ай бұрын

Great video! Please do Jack Bauer or Vic Mackey

@spamanator666 Жыл бұрын

8:20 the money was not put into multiple deposit boxes for his granddaughter, that was the money to each of his guy's families to keep his guys from talking while in jail. He did also have one big one for Kaylee, but the smaller ones were for "his guys" families.

@itsdan722 9 ай бұрын

Waltuh, im going to prison for 440 years Waltuh

@Generalmacka 2 ай бұрын

Saúl: “Your honor please he will break my legs if he is found guilty”

@Glooogii Жыл бұрын

Finnaly someone who makes video I want and actually make it more realistic by adding local law (New Mexico state law) and not doing it in general

@chickencurry420 10 ай бұрын

For years, I've been planning on making a video where it's basically the same thing but for Always Sunny and I already did a lot of research into Pennsylvania law. Also, I wanted to put my own spin on it by playing a cop character who's investigating the Gang's actions as if they're real people

@nathanapplegate5374 Жыл бұрын

Him instructing someone to lie and him lying to the investigators are not crimes. That’s a falsehood many cops will tell you to extract a confession. Lying only becomes a crime when you do so under oath, and that’s called perjury.

@Caannnnoonn 9 ай бұрын

A bolt action Remington M700 is not an NFA item, nor was it illegal for him to purchase through private transfer.

@YAMMAS Жыл бұрын

I guess he better call Saul

@randompanda876 Жыл бұрын

@1:47 what exactly makes the rifle and NFA item? it isnt an SBR, no suppressor, and not an DD or MG or AOW. does the NFA cover guns with defaced serial numbers?

@sheeplikethedead Жыл бұрын

Yeah no idea how it would be, unless it's the last one.

@Nullicity Жыл бұрын

30 seconds in and hes already in prison for 60 years bro aint gon live that long

@eadghe 2 ай бұрын

What's missing is trespassing, since Mike entered many rooms and spaces, he wasn't allowed to enter.

@rewsterfewd1226 9 ай бұрын

Saul Goodman: Your honor my client is simply built different

@DunkYTP Жыл бұрын

You missed a lot. The lydia one wasnt just kidnapping, it would also be breaking and entering

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

True ❤😊

@Palpatine4Senate Жыл бұрын

I love how Mike’s head is 2’4” tall in the thumbnail

@rexo5064 Жыл бұрын

Saul would’ve got him down to 3 years

@theotherguy6951 3 ай бұрын

He also accepted many bribes back when he was a cop in Philadelphia

@rickallinson202 3 ай бұрын

That kind of mixture of imperial and metric shown in the thumbnail was responsible for a lander crashing into Mars once😢

@FranRojo91 8 ай бұрын

Defence: but judge, he is a good guy Judge: you're goddamn right, let him free!

@Theone-uy4qo 11 ай бұрын

7:18 i dont know man that looks like a hostage to me

@FurryFinance 9 ай бұрын

What text-to-speech did you use for this?

@GreatCollapsingHrung Жыл бұрын

Just came here to mention that the thumbnail makes it look like his head is two and a half feet tall

@josephlin402 10 ай бұрын

physically the most dangerous man

@cosmic5386 Жыл бұрын

I feel like some of these crimes could be negotiated and be brought lower for example the first where he kills the two cops. He couldn’t turn to the police as they were all corrupt and they were plotting on killing him. Those same police also killed his son. I feel like that crime would be lessened by circumstances.

@Gabe94dotcom Жыл бұрын

True ❤😊

@slothreacts34 11 ай бұрын

Well the only thing these videos count as “admissible” is self defense

@madgavin7568 10 ай бұрын

It never works like that in practice. DA's ALWAYS throw the book at cop killers.

@cosmic5386 10 ай бұрын

@@madgavin7568 but the cops were crooks and worked with criminals

@swxqt6826 6 ай бұрын

@@slothreacts34The two cops he killed at the start of the video were killed in self defense.

@cornhole-Fudge-in-your-teeth 11 ай бұрын

Now this series is fire 🔥🔥🔥 YEEEEEHHHAAAAAAWWWWWW!

@_Mr.Tuvok_ Жыл бұрын

Woah this is like Cinema Sins legal.

@schaukelstuhl1803 Жыл бұрын

In Germany we say "15 Jahre mit anschließender Sicherheitsverwahrung" (15 years with subsequent preventive detention)

@solodevinc Жыл бұрын

man like mike

@sammni 9 ай бұрын

Mike would spend a life sentence just going to court 😂

@funlover1977 11 ай бұрын

That's a hilarious idea. Shame you missed some and miss-interpreted some others. Still! What an amazing concept!

@tommyobama7811 Жыл бұрын

If you kill one cop let alone two you're getting a life without parole if not the death penalty.

@jankington216 Жыл бұрын

That's if you can get a jury with only authoritarians

@samfromcadott Жыл бұрын

With good behavior he could get it cut in half.

@ElFortunaLa Жыл бұрын

💀💀💀🤣

@kidnamedfinger217 11 ай бұрын

too bad i took an express trip to belize

@seanraines8459 10 ай бұрын

All other episodes starts with small fine or few months in prison meanwhile starts with 60 years

@owenosborne8543 Жыл бұрын

I would guess he would owe a lot more

@markwilson4078 9 ай бұрын

When I saw Mike given 440 years, this immediately reminded me of when Jerry Sandusky faced a maximum of 442 years in prison before he got sentenced to 60. If Jerry had indeed gotten the maximum sentence instead, that would make Mike almost on par with him!