If MVPs Were Given to the BEST Player... (1990s)

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Jonny Arnett

Jonny Arnett

Күн бұрын

The NBA gives its MVP awards to players who meet certain criterias... but what if the MVP was just given to the best player? We're looking at who would win it in those cases from the 1990s.
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@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 жыл бұрын
Which 90s legend deserved more MVPs than he actually got? 2010s video coming soon...
@kizvy
@kizvy 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan no doubt
@_1luljayyy
@_1luljayyy 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan should have 10
@alapandas3457
@alapandas3457 3 жыл бұрын
Jonny bro can you please summarise at the end the number of MVPs the stars like MJ, Kobe etc would have at the end of the video series, as per your new and much improved analysis and guidelines? Thanks!
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a great idea! I forgot I told someone I would put a summary at the end of this video too. I'm way too forgetful... I'll try to make sure I start including more summaries/recaps 👍
@KleinpeterHank
@KleinpeterHank 3 жыл бұрын
This Jordan guy seems pretty good.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
Harrison Kleinpeter not bad i guess
@jaredbowen3527
@jaredbowen3527 3 жыл бұрын
@Shadow2Dubz your such an idiot This dude "jordan" doesnt even exist
@Jayman340
@Jayman340 3 жыл бұрын
Shadow2Dubz Bruh Jordan is worse then that garbage Kobe dude like OMFG both of them are dog
@felipebrunetta2106
@felipebrunetta2106 3 жыл бұрын
He was a decent shooter, but not a great athlete and just a decent defender
@Jayman340
@Jayman340 3 жыл бұрын
Eu Sou Nah the Jordan dude literally was the worst player ever
@anf9311
@anf9311 3 жыл бұрын
Jonny: Karl Malone keeps his award. MJ: I took it personal.
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 жыл бұрын
anf9311 MJ about to drop 50 on my head. Lol
@pittaaaabread
@pittaaaabread 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonnyarnett Anyone: Literally anyone ever: *doesn't send michael jordan a christmas card* MJ: I had to give him 50 you know?
@michaelgray1803
@michaelgray1803 3 жыл бұрын
Never
@Superputazo23
@Superputazo23 3 жыл бұрын
@Rodzilla MJ knows He's better than Gary. Gary wore Jordans... Enough said
@mve5758
@mve5758 3 жыл бұрын
@@Superputazo23 Payton was right though when he claimed he seriously slowed down MJ. He still averaged over 23 points, but on just 35.7% from the field.
@PhillipCummingsUSA
@PhillipCummingsUSA 3 жыл бұрын
MJ "I'm gonna go play baseball so that everyone else can have a chance"
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
facts haha
@-sorta
@-sorta 3 жыл бұрын
he got bored it was too ez
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
500 Subscribers with 1 video frrr
@helloiamgood942
@helloiamgood942 3 жыл бұрын
Nah he just got banned coa he smoked too much. Lest be honest, how would get bored of dominating legends?
@omni_king2317
@omni_king2317 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@nicomagayanes991
@nicomagayanes991 3 жыл бұрын
MJ: “So you think Malone is the 1997 Season MVP? Ok fine. Imma show you he’s not.”
@disco4255
@disco4255 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is mj is still the actual mvp if you look at advanced stats beyond just per. He led that season in win shares, win shares per/48, bpm and vorp
@MortanAMrk
@MortanAMrk Жыл бұрын
Karl Malone sweep
@myerscumsillefamily252
@myerscumsillefamily252 Жыл бұрын
@@MortanAMrk yes by getting some nice dimes by top 5 passer oat stockton
@Hazz1405
@Hazz1405 11 ай бұрын
​@@disco4255I disagree with BOTH of Malone MVPs aswell. I honestly think both 97 and 98 should go to Jordan. Especially 98. Why? Because MJ was doing this with NO ALL STAR on his team for 97 or 98. Pippen wasnt reliable in the regular season during the end of his bulls career. In 98 he missed half of the season. The double teams and triple teams MJ was facing was a joke. The man was getting DOUBLED OFF THE BALL. so just looking at stats with almost no context is horrible. If you asked people around the world at the time who was better MJ or Malone it quite frankly isn't Close. Malone had a Superstar as his 2nd best player and one of the best passers ever feeding him the ball
@casbra8191
@casbra8191 3 жыл бұрын
idea for a video: "what if the mvp was given after the post-season"
@Splackavellie85
@Splackavellie85 3 жыл бұрын
Then Giannis will likely never win one
@egg8133
@egg8133 3 жыл бұрын
IchLiebeKuchen rf4e that’s basically the fmvp
@Nick-sr4fe
@Nick-sr4fe 3 жыл бұрын
Giannis wouldn’t have one Steve Nash wouldn’t have 2. Kawhi would have an MVP. Russ wouldn’t have one. Honestly I wish the MVP was in the post season a bit.
@Splackavellie85
@Splackavellie85 3 жыл бұрын
Fool’s Gaming You do know there’s more to the post season than just the Finals, don’t you?
@slaimanalharbi5972
@slaimanalharbi5972 3 жыл бұрын
Bron and mj would win pretty much every season
@ChiseledAdonis
@ChiseledAdonis Жыл бұрын
Damn ... Combine this video with the 80s & Jordan gets 7 STRAIGHT MVPS + 96 when he returns... That's crazy He was on a different level
@Hazz1405
@Hazz1405 11 ай бұрын
Yh his prime is the best ever and it's not close. Anyways I disagree with BOTH of Malone MVPs. I honestly think it should go to Jordan. Especially 98. Why? Because MJ was doing this with NO ALL STAR on his team for 97 or 98. Pippen wasnt reliable in the regular season during the end of his bulls career. In 98 he missed half of the season. The double teams and triple teams MJ was facing was a joke. The man was getting DOUBLED OFF THE BALL. so just looking at stats with almost no context is horrible. If you asked people around the world at the time who was better MJ or Malone it quite frankly isn't Close. Malone had a Superstar as his 2nd best player feeding him the ball
@hendrygiandynantheo2324
@hendrygiandynantheo2324 3 жыл бұрын
Breaking news: MJ plans to return one more time to prove a youtuber wrong.
@armandodelossantos736
@armandodelossantos736 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan has 1 playoff win his entire career without Pippen.
@JerrymeTubeHD
@JerrymeTubeHD 3 жыл бұрын
@@armandodelossantos736 Who the f*ck asked?
@n1ck67
@n1ck67 3 жыл бұрын
Armando De Los Santos Um ok? That’s prolly cuz pippen was on his team bud?
@serhattanlr6957
@serhattanlr6957 3 жыл бұрын
@@armandodelossantos736 that was the most retarded thing I ve ever heard..
@jachcoff
@jachcoff 3 жыл бұрын
mj never takes things personally tho
@MindfulAttraction2.0
@MindfulAttraction2.0 3 жыл бұрын
3:27 those had to be the fattest ankles I've ever seen in my life
@dthehacker9513
@dthehacker9513 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ayazceyhan1968
@ayazceyhan1968 3 жыл бұрын
Chuck built different 😭😂💀
@MrSquaky
@MrSquaky 3 жыл бұрын
Calves for days lmaooo
@slomofome14
@slomofome14 3 жыл бұрын
Fat slug
@slanderman3296
@slanderman3296 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@MasterCombatant
@MasterCombatant 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad that you turned this into the a series plus you’re giving each player the credit they deserve
@hmu05366
@hmu05366 3 жыл бұрын
💯 Alex ferguson
@scrungy3540
@scrungy3540 3 жыл бұрын
Malone was good but he don't deserve anyone's respect, remember that
@MasterCombatant
@MasterCombatant 3 жыл бұрын
Scrungy Bingus accept him. I don’t give respect to any grown man who sleeps with 13 year old girls. If I was her dad, I would be pissed the fuck off. I know I said “giving them the credit they deserve,” but I didn’t mean it like that because he’s gonna go out as one of the most hated players of all time
@369pendulum
@369pendulum 3 жыл бұрын
@@scrungy3540 This is about basketball & nothing else
@tdl8472
@tdl8472 3 жыл бұрын
Scrungy Bingus idc what the allegations were. I respect him as a basketball player. Anyone using personal biases to decide their ranking on a player is a snowflake ❄️. He’s a ball player, a great one. I’ll put some respect on his name when referring to basketball
@teddyvanhalen814
@teddyvanhalen814 3 жыл бұрын
People forget how good The Admiral was. People see those ‘95 Dream Shake highlights and think Robinson was a joke. But he had a few MVP caliber seasons during this time.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
David Robinson was a one of a kind type of player, such a great guy too, I might make a video on how good The Admiral was soon
@ecnumber1fan
@ecnumber1fan 3 жыл бұрын
As a Rockets fan I would have to agree with you. The Admiral was also a pretty classy guy as well.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
ecnumber1fan such a beast
@aymankhali904
@aymankhali904 3 жыл бұрын
Damn all I saw was him getting dunked on or schooled
@jbailey690
@jbailey690 3 жыл бұрын
@@aymankhali904 Damn all I saw was him dunking on and schooling people. ( In the video and because I was actually watching during that Era )
@redpharaoh4527
@redpharaoh4527 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, coming from someone who just came into basketball a year or so ago and wants to know basketball knowledge about everything, your videos are amazing with awesome editing. Keep up the great vids! 👍
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate that, and welcome to the Basketball community!
@allanhouston6759
@allanhouston6759 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonnyarnett Shaquille O"Neal was in his Prime from 1994/95 to 2002/03.
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 3 жыл бұрын
Who is your choice of GOAT
@redpharaoh4527
@redpharaoh4527 3 жыл бұрын
DeeJay Honestly, my choice is Larry Bird, but the real choice is Michael Jordan. Bird’s my favorite player and probably could have been the goat if he wasn’t injured like he was. Who’s yours?
@Jearbearjenkins
@Jearbearjenkins 3 жыл бұрын
@@redpharaoh4527 Hey man. Glad to see you’re into Basketball. Been 9 months so you’ve probably seen way more facts. What team do you support?
@BeachPleased
@BeachPleased 3 жыл бұрын
8:47 in 1997 Karl Malone won the MVP and Michael Jordan took it personally. Jonny knows if he didn't Briefly explain why, MJ will took this video Personally. LOLOLOL
@mattb1446
@mattb1446 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats what made him so great. Csuse he cane back with a vendetta
@doodlebob2923
@doodlebob2923 3 жыл бұрын
He’s still gonna take it personally but he’ll only drop 40
@zappa3837
@zappa3837 Жыл бұрын
Definitely my new go-to NBA channel. Checks all the right boxes (compelling topics and analysis, passion, eloquence, concision, relevant background footage instead of the speaker, solid voice, and no annoyingly loud background music).
@anthonyurso3554
@anthonyurso3554 10 ай бұрын
Yea this guy is really good
@gangstadu94
@gangstadu94 3 жыл бұрын
before his 1st retirement, MJ had all these crazy numbers, he dominated on both sides of the court, plus when playoff time came he gave you more., shooting mode than 50% of the court for a guard is just incredible. when he came back he was no longer the same player , he had lost a big part of his athleticism but he killed with the fade away
@AidenB1010
@AidenB1010 3 жыл бұрын
GRAMAR
@sowmsxa301
@sowmsxa301 3 жыл бұрын
Aiden Billiu spelling
@sukulbembe4657
@sukulbembe4657 3 жыл бұрын
@@sowmsxa301 thanks
@ssj4goku18825theepic
@ssj4goku18825theepic 3 жыл бұрын
How so? Being able to win mvp and finals mvp and a big season in 96 if anything showed he was still the same
@ssj4goku18825theepic
@ssj4goku18825theepic 3 жыл бұрын
@A yeah I can see that he was super explosive in his prime peak it def took its toll no wonder he was also sitting down in minutes
@doomerconsumer
@doomerconsumer 3 жыл бұрын
everytime i learn something new about MJ (the GOAT) i’m even more shocked and the distance between him & other greats increases. he’s basically basketball Jesus.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
pretty much
@Hive5ive
@Hive5ive 3 жыл бұрын
Allen Iverson calls him black jesus for a reason.
@LarryGillis
@LarryGillis 3 жыл бұрын
nah bro simple marketing and league rule reasearch shows any super star nowaday would be equal or just below jordan. In jordan era, zone didnt exist, around when Kobe and shaq won too easy zone was needed cause shaq went crazy. Jordan is kobe without rules helping their style.
@doomerconsumer
@doomerconsumer 3 жыл бұрын
Michael Harkin uh no. in Jordan’s era, the league had hand checking, less fouls called, and less shots taken overall, yet he scored more than most stars today & was often the league’s best defender. plenty of players are marketed today, even more after Jordan made being a star more popular than anyone before him. zone defense being played more often in the 2000s/2010s only hurts your argument.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
L.A. Gonzalez lmao fr
@iamgaijin88
@iamgaijin88 3 жыл бұрын
*ahhh the 1997 mvp... choked so hard in that series* _“the mailman doesn't deliver on sunday”_
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
such great trash talk lmao
@Life_Basketball
@Life_Basketball 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, people are starting to sleep on that moment
@armandodelossantos736
@armandodelossantos736 3 жыл бұрын
That was one of the worst refereed series in NBA history.
@stayofftheweeeeeeed7249
@stayofftheweeeeeeed7249 2 жыл бұрын
Still got 25 and 10
@death2denemy
@death2denemy 2 жыл бұрын
Always wondered how that series would have turned out if karl malone just had a consistent/reliable 2nd scorer.. He already had stockton, u couldnt ask for a better floor general than that.. Now, imagine if there was a reliable/all star caliber 2nd scoring threat.. I bet it would have been more interesting than it already was..
@Jeffway24
@Jeffway24 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the series bro!
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
agreed, awesome idea
@jaybirdblakeslee630
@jaybirdblakeslee630 3 жыл бұрын
this was. theNBA. golden age .
@carlfeliciano988
@carlfeliciano988 3 жыл бұрын
Yep yep
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
Jaybird Blakeslee no doubt
@pranav8830
@pranav8830 3 жыл бұрын
Somebody : poured milk before the cereal MJ : that's when it became personal for me
@WavyJazzyBanks
@WavyJazzyBanks 3 жыл бұрын
Good vid. Always on point, my guy, ofc we could split a few hairs. Love the "good story" element to MVP considerations too: MJ in '98 is like a fairy tale. The Last Dance. The Last Shot. Went to my first NBA game that year: MJ at the AlamoDome. The shuttering and flaahing of cameras each time he shot a free throw...amazing atmosphere
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
its an experience like no other that's for sure
@Ivander85
@Ivander85 3 жыл бұрын
I was a huge fan of David Robinson growing up and I feel like a lot of people remember him as the guy who was destroyed by Hakeem after winning MVP and not getting it done as the go-to-guy and needing Tim Duncan to win a ring. But Robinson never had a true co-star until Duncan was drafted, and David was 32 by then. It's very rare for a franchise type of player to lead a team to a title as the sole star, like Hakeem in 1994 or Dirk in 2011. This video really does the Admiral justice, he was among the best from '89-'96.
@thecensoredmuscle563
@thecensoredmuscle563 Жыл бұрын
"Destroyed"? Only reason it didn't go 7 games was because Horry being the clutch playoff legend he is, hitting game winners for Houston. It was Robinson vs Hakeem, Clyde Drexler (an nba legend), Kenny the jet, Robert Horry going ham late in the games, same with Cassel. Hakeem did not win as the sole star, dude played with another legend and 2 extra playoff legends.
@MrE_
@MrE_ 3 жыл бұрын
New 90s mvps: MJ: 5 mvps Karl Malone: 2 mvps Robinson, Shaq, Hakeem: 1 mvp
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
I could see that maybe, lowkey Jordan still deserves more
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 3 жыл бұрын
and remember Mj should have won some more in the 80s he only won one but could easily have won 2-3 more
@nostalgicbliss5547
@nostalgicbliss5547 3 жыл бұрын
@@mixedpleasure4324 The year MJ won defensive player of the year, the award should have gone to Hakeem Olajuwon. Jordan was a great defensive guard, but Hakeem was monstrous that season on defense. And a great defensive center is always more valuable than a great defensive guard.
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 3 жыл бұрын
@@nostalgicbliss5547 Mj in 87 and 88 had back to back seasons with over 200 steals and 100 blocks as the only player ever to do it twice only Hakeem and pippen has done it one time each Mj should have won back to back dpoy and back to back mvps
@armandodelossantos736
@armandodelossantos736 3 жыл бұрын
@@mixedpleasure4324 Olajuwon recorded at least 100 steals and at least 200 blocks for his first 12 seasons
@boostae7480
@boostae7480 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for the 2010s video, nice vid as always Jonny.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
facts, Lebron deserves all the MVPs in that decade though idc what anyone says
@pranksterboy8371
@pranksterboy8371 3 жыл бұрын
InThePaint even In 2019 and 2016?
@benstern5112
@benstern5112 3 жыл бұрын
InThePaint not 2016 and 2019
@timmyg831
@timmyg831 3 жыл бұрын
You mean the no-touch defense, 3 point shooting, no dominant center decade?
@pranksterboy8371
@pranksterboy8371 3 жыл бұрын
TimmyK28just stop okay. Three point shooting is apart of basketball now so because it’s not mid range or layups this was a great decade
@MichaelCorleone_
@MichaelCorleone_ 3 жыл бұрын
In 97 Malone averaged, 2.2 less points, 4.0 more rebounds, 0.2 more assists, 7% higher FG%, 2.4% higher TS%, and like you said, less minutes.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
absolute baller Malone is
@zaggaona
@zaggaona 3 жыл бұрын
The mailman was an absolute beast.. the whole jazz team definitely is missing a dynasty.. im from Chicago so i say it without any bitterness
@mattb1446
@mattb1446 3 жыл бұрын
Whats that have to do with it. Its not best player of the year. Its most valuable player award. Big difference
@wanilimbe
@wanilimbe 3 жыл бұрын
Matt B If it’s most valuable player like you said, Hakeem would win it from 1990-1995
@zaggaona
@zaggaona 3 жыл бұрын
@@wanilimbe how? He didnt get championships and he didnt have enough stats to justify it? 2 championship.
@MDM679
@MDM679 3 жыл бұрын
Great series as always. Your channel is by far my favorite one among the basketball channels across the youtube.
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 жыл бұрын
Dang, that means a lot! thanks for supporting my channel as always. Glad to have you.
@borugbarag5754
@borugbarag5754 3 жыл бұрын
MJ on early 90's is freakin scary.
@bloody_outlaw8000
@bloody_outlaw8000 3 жыл бұрын
late 80s is even scarier
@borugbarag5754
@borugbarag5754 3 жыл бұрын
@@bloody_outlaw8000 i'd still pref the 91 92 MJ. He has more muscle at that time compare to his early season.
@nostalgicbliss5547
@nostalgicbliss5547 3 жыл бұрын
88-93 MJ were the best prime years of a basketball player ever!! He peaked in 91.
@borugbarag5754
@borugbarag5754 3 жыл бұрын
@@nostalgicbliss5547 man, that MJ has 100 perfct stats on an nba game.
@slomofome14
@slomofome14 3 жыл бұрын
Borug Barag I always put 91 MJ on my created teams, I usually have him score more than my own created guy lol
@joaquintenedora-forte7446
@joaquintenedora-forte7446 3 жыл бұрын
Please do the 80's, Pretty Please...
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 жыл бұрын
I will! I've got a TON of requests for the 2010s, so I'll probably do that one first, but I do the 80s after that.
@joaquintenedora-forte7446
@joaquintenedora-forte7446 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonnyarnett I was the kid of the 2000's born at the end of the century. but me and my dad would watch old games as in 1980s and I really love Magic and Bird. However, Kobe is my favorite player and the day he died was one of the worst days of my life. As a life long Laker fan I appreciate what you do.
@spencer4359
@spencer4359 3 жыл бұрын
So happy i found this channel! I miss 90’s NBA so much
@Maximillian200HP
@Maximillian200HP 3 жыл бұрын
The Last Dance "Took it personally" reference was a gem! GJ, Jonny!
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
lmao fr, MJ prob took this video personally lol
@dvon1097
@dvon1097 3 жыл бұрын
This is a damn good list. I cant argue anything although MJ showed Malone who the real best player is twice in a row and Hakeem showed DRob the same thing in 1995
@lovindc2004
@lovindc2004 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video Mr. Arnett. I'm really enjoying these MVP what if videos. Please keep them coming. Thanks.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
same here
@Lanse1984
@Lanse1984 3 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story is. Jordan was on another level entirely in a league of legends
@dtaybloom9472
@dtaybloom9472 3 жыл бұрын
Bro you're a great youtuber keep on doing what you're doing
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
1000000%
@ConnectedSims23
@ConnectedSims23 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome series, man. You have earned a new subscriber. Please do the 1980s and 2010s!
@catherinelynnfraser2001
@catherinelynnfraser2001 3 жыл бұрын
Love the series...don’t always agree with you but this is sweet. Thank you😘
@Life_Basketball
@Life_Basketball 3 жыл бұрын
Should've been more MJ
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel Johnson you could certainly make that argument. He’s not done though. He was a beast in the 2nd half of the 80s too.
@Life_Basketball
@Life_Basketball 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonnyarnett that's true, just thought he should've had Malone's best player in 97 and 98. Michael was a tad bit slower in 97 and 98 but was way more skilled by that point.
@kfl16
@kfl16 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel Johnson mj= goat
@Life_Basketball
@Life_Basketball 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah,Le bron ain't got shit on him
@kfl16
@kfl16 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel Johnson facts
@GtheGreat1
@GtheGreat1 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan should have 7 mvps in the 90's
@meenamjah
@meenamjah 3 жыл бұрын
it's absurd that he didn't win 9 straight or whatever.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
@@meenamjah facts, its absurd Lebron doesn't have more also though
@kingdinodragonite3470
@kingdinodragonite3470 3 жыл бұрын
@@inthepaint2907 nah. KD was better in 2014. Curry was better in 2016. In 2017, even with statpads, Westbrook/Harden has better numbers than Lebron. 2018 is definitely Harden in the regular season. 2019, Harden and Giannis are definitely better. Lebron "Best Player": 2009-2013, 2015 Lebron with "MVP formula": 2009,2010,2012,2013. It's fair. Keep sucking Lebron though.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
King Dino Dragonite thanks for the feedback 😁😁
@wanilimbe
@wanilimbe 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that LeBron doesn’t have one in 2018 is absurd
@iEliTePg
@iEliTePg 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! In my opinion, you should put the winner and runner up stat lines side by side every time for better comprehension. And also at the end of the video; maybe put a chart showing a final list of who won the award vs who “should’ve”’ won the award. Definitely subscribing!
@leoncogaming
@leoncogaming 3 жыл бұрын
I AGREE with your changes, GREAT analysis!
@nicklulgjuraj2774
@nicklulgjuraj2774 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid bro keep it up
@shawn17g
@shawn17g 3 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how mj before his 1st retirement has better efficiency than the centers
@Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie
@Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie 3 жыл бұрын
2010s? 80s?
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 жыл бұрын
They're coming!
@Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie
@Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie 3 жыл бұрын
Jonny Arnett looking forward to those then
@brianmontgomery580
@brianmontgomery580 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonnyarnett you gonna do the 70s
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 жыл бұрын
Elmo Chops I’m pretty sure I will. Based on how much people are enjoying the series, I’ll probably do as many as I can tbh. They’re fun for me to write too.
@MrE_
@MrE_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonnyarnett YESSSSS!
@Michael30786
@Michael30786 3 жыл бұрын
This was great Content Jonny Great Work 👍👍
@anirudhkrishnan2071
@anirudhkrishnan2071 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this video, keep them coming
@IAmRyan25
@IAmRyan25 3 жыл бұрын
Clyde is my guy, but he was NEVER an 'elite' shooter.
@cashmoneysniper4166
@cashmoneysniper4166 3 жыл бұрын
YES!!!!! I haven't been this happy for a video😂
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
awesome video
@Coach_Ax
@Coach_Ax 3 жыл бұрын
This entire series is amazing bro keep up the good work
@ScottParisi
@ScottParisi 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Really enjoy this series.
@AlstonMurray2005
@AlstonMurray2005 3 жыл бұрын
Hakeem In 94, in my opinion had the greatest season all time. Won DYOP, MVP, won the Finals and Finals MVP. He was the best defender without question that season, and took full advantage of Jordan not playing that year. Man I wish I could've saw him and MJ play in the finals
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
would've been a series like no other
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
James Broms well said
@mj23goat3
@mj23goat3 2 жыл бұрын
@@inthepaint2907 The Bulls would've punked the Rockets handily.
@KingDreams
@KingDreams 3 жыл бұрын
This video was very interesting loved this video finally recommended me a good one plus one sub
@MAEDtravel
@MAEDtravel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jonny excellent as usual. Looking forward your next on the 80'
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
I think he's doing the 2010s next but will do the 80's after that
@johnedward5442
@johnedward5442 3 жыл бұрын
You did your research bro! Thanks! Really enjoyed the video!
@chanendlerbong
@chanendlerbong 3 жыл бұрын
1990-1993 and 1996-1998 is MJ for these who dont know and for hardcore Lebron fans
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
well Lebron didn't even play then so idk what your point is
@elijahruderman
@elijahruderman 3 жыл бұрын
Dude this is only talking about the regular season.
@benjaminan1183
@benjaminan1183 3 жыл бұрын
1993 should go to Hakeem.
@stealthiscool
@stealthiscool 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminan1183 No chance
@benjaminan1183
@benjaminan1183 3 жыл бұрын
@@stealthiscool Yes chance
@camsochill4825
@camsochill4825 3 жыл бұрын
Bron sexuals:MJ can’t shoot
@camsochill4825
@camsochill4825 3 жыл бұрын
Jelly Bean yo you right I respect bron as the second greatest player but bron fans be delusional I swear
@stephencruize9367
@stephencruize9367 3 жыл бұрын
You call Lebron fans delusional then place him second all time? Hmm
@dudelitte7817
@dudelitte7817 3 жыл бұрын
Stephen Cruize beacuse Lebron is the 2nd greatest of all time
@dudelitte7817
@dudelitte7817 3 жыл бұрын
Jelly Bean hey man that’s your opinion not mine good bye sir
@MrE_
@MrE_ 3 жыл бұрын
@Jelly Bean anyone who says "he *will never* beat _______" is delusional. You are idolizing the past as if no one can ever be greater lol
@enochp.3547
@enochp.3547 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is the most important one on KZfaq. Keep them coming
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
Enoch P. one of the greatest channels no doubt
@charlesking678
@charlesking678 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Good to see the award given based on merit, not team success and a good story. Good list.
@jaspermccuaig5046
@jaspermccuaig5046 3 жыл бұрын
I love this series so much
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
awesome idea for sure
@titoaskeladd2639
@titoaskeladd2639 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great and original series at that. Kudos!!! 🙌
@ShniitSchneyder
@ShniitSchneyder 3 жыл бұрын
fantastic new series, thanks ma man!
@halam899live8
@halam899live8 3 жыл бұрын
Great video today keep it up your doing amazing job.
@GANGLYMAN117
@GANGLYMAN117 3 жыл бұрын
4:07 pretty much sums up MJ in one clip. Just put 6 rings on his hand and you're good to go.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
well said
@momoneylessproblems9183
@momoneylessproblems9183 3 жыл бұрын
MJ: When a shooting guard averages almost the same shooting percentage as one of the best centers in the league.
@tobsixi6702
@tobsixi6702 3 жыл бұрын
Well the 90s were very different from the modern NBA, offenses were actually build around Centers so naturally defenses were also focused on stopping them + spacing wasnt nearly as good as in the modern NBA thus making the paint and post more crowded with defenders so shooting over 50% when always battleing against other Bigs with poor spacing was actually quite the challenge compared to modern Centers where a lot just camp in the dunker spot, waiting for oops and misses that they can clean up
@Vibe1610
@Vibe1610 3 жыл бұрын
@@tobsixi6702 That's true. Still a great accomplishment tho
@Ali-on8dc
@Ali-on8dc 3 жыл бұрын
@@tobsixi6702 that basically makes it tougher to score cause today u beat ur man ur at the cup for an easy layup or dunk those days ur 4 and 5 man were in the paint waiting to slam u upside ur head. Yes it was arguably the toughest era so score in in nba history so what jordan did was beyond impressive.
@alecboegman2627
@alecboegman2627 3 жыл бұрын
Love the series!!!!! Keep it coming
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
same
@basha8836
@basha8836 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched this video for the 3rd or 4th time and I noticed that in still images Charles always guarded the centers like Shaq, David, Hakeem and Ewing lmao. The guy have no fear!
@markjackson6431
@markjackson6431 3 жыл бұрын
can’t wait to get to the 70s with the NBA AND ABA
@OfficialDuhon29
@OfficialDuhon29 3 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching the 2000’s and he delivers with another BANG!!! *Mike Breen Voice
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
hahah, amazing commentating Duhon lmao
@jdm2339
@jdm2339 3 жыл бұрын
10 out of 10, my guy. Just like all your vids! :D keep up the great work
@vernonleewarren280
@vernonleewarren280 3 жыл бұрын
This was excellent. Thank you sir
@ilichjames
@ilichjames 3 жыл бұрын
Pippen:"Hey Karl,the mailman doesn't deliver on sundays".LOL
@cd2ogz1
@cd2ogz1 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@yoannbeausse8531
@yoannbeausse8531 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, just wanted to correct the stat line of Shaq in 93-94 (at 6:50 in the video) : he did not average 5.1 apg, but only 2.4apg (if he did, it would have been an easy MVP season imo ! 29-13-5-3 with 60% shooting ?!? Come on ! xD).
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. A couple other people pointed that out too. Idk what the heck I was looking at when I typed in 5.1 apg. lol
@JoseRivas-wd4zd
@JoseRivas-wd4zd 3 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos .
@rickbriss33
@rickbriss33 3 жыл бұрын
Super dope video 🔥
@leptonparticle238
@leptonparticle238 2 жыл бұрын
So basicly, if MJ didnt retire and didnt get injured, he would have been the real MVP of the league for 10 seasons steaight from 1987 to 1996...
@liamnance1029
@liamnance1029 3 жыл бұрын
It should be: 90: Jordan 91: Jordan 92: Jordan 93: Hakeem 94: Hakeem 95: Robinson 96: Jordan 97: Jordan 98: Jordan 99: Shaq
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
spot on
@ecnumber1fan
@ecnumber1fan 3 жыл бұрын
Looks about right to me
@LenoD79
@LenoD79 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 3 жыл бұрын
Nah where Mj missing a couple of mvps is in the 80s
@the757general2
@the757general2 2 жыл бұрын
Jordan was clearly better in 93
@Andrewmehr_
@Andrewmehr_ 3 жыл бұрын
Love this series
@justinvincent1691
@justinvincent1691 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is so good just like JxMhighroller! You have earned my subscription sir. 🔥🔥
@nba2kclassicmatchups906
@nba2kclassicmatchups906 3 жыл бұрын
I'd give 93' to Hakeem and 90' to Barkley. But I cannot say that the choice of Jordan is also wrong.
@benjaminan1183
@benjaminan1183 3 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@zurvey
@zurvey 3 жыл бұрын
A *HUGE* flaw in your thinking is that stats indicate who the better players are. Not even win shares or PER tell us who the best players are. For example, Kobe gets compared to Jordan all the time, but Kobe's role while Shaq was on the Lakers was more comparable to Pippen, not Jordan. Performing in that role altered Kobe's stats considerably. Was Kobe a *worse* player in the Shaq years? Of course not. And Kobe played at least one season with a broken finger on his shooting hand. That affected his shooting percentage and other stats, but injuries heal over the course of a season and can potentially allow a player to be more effective again - a common happening that isn't reflected in a season's stat line. A player's contribution to winning - to the team's overall record against all other players - HAS to always be considered heavily in determining a player's value. By the way, I think very concept of an MVP award in a team game is fundamentally flawed, but it does sell sneakers. 😉
@wanilimbe
@wanilimbe 3 жыл бұрын
Pano Kosto Kobe was no winner though with mediocre players.
@awesomereviews1561
@awesomereviews1561 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not a flaw, it’s just the criteria by which he decided to judge. As long as he is consistent with it, it’s not a problem. You can make a different list with different criteria but you have to be consistent with it .
@bartomiej9807
@bartomiej9807 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. 1 thing that could be improved - use more side to side stat comparisons while discussing two players. It helps focusing on the topic. You could also add some (but not much) red/green colour to notice better individual stats.
@markjackson6431
@markjackson6431 3 жыл бұрын
another great vid man
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
facts
@jeffreymann6990
@jeffreymann6990 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan the real GOAT
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
true that
@shivenpathuri3153
@shivenpathuri3153 3 жыл бұрын
1989/90 - 1992/93: Michael Jordan 1993/94 - 1994/95: Hakeem Olajuwon 1995/96 - 1997/98: Michael Jordan 1998/99: Karl Malone
@zachjette5250
@zachjette5250 3 жыл бұрын
Great series
@Mektek19
@Mektek19 3 жыл бұрын
Exceptional work, wow 👏
@soulpringle1612
@soulpringle1612 3 жыл бұрын
6:12 Mj is the goat bro🐐. I’m sorry but Bron isn’t close yet
@bentongrq5160
@bentongrq5160 3 жыл бұрын
Youll hurt bronsexual bro. They think stats alone is matter ,
@Splackavellie85
@Splackavellie85 3 жыл бұрын
So.. Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, Hakeem, Hakeem, Jordan, Jordan, Jordan?
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
That's how i'd rank it
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
Eric Larry lmao I wasn’t serious about Jordan winning all of those, but does he deserve most of them yes
@Splackavellie85
@Splackavellie85 3 жыл бұрын
Eric Larry Well, considering the Admiral pulled a Giannis in the playoffs, it would be hard to argue he was the better player over Hakeem.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
Lesley Harrys true
@wanilimbe
@wanilimbe 3 жыл бұрын
Karl Malone in 97’ and Charles Barkley
@asymptoticspatula
@asymptoticspatula 3 жыл бұрын
Great series! The “MJ took it personal” meme always gets a laugh outta me.
@williamfales456
@williamfales456 3 жыл бұрын
subscribing for this just saw the first one this series is awesome
@masonwright2560
@masonwright2560 3 жыл бұрын
Who else just clicked on this video to see how much MVP's MJ had
@hubbthepoet612
@hubbthepoet612 3 жыл бұрын
Should’ve picked a different decade. I can’t imagine taking a MVP away from MJ
@yottamgroch358
@yottamgroch358 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@carnek
@carnek 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Please do 2010s if is not too complicated :)
@SealofPerfection
@SealofPerfection 3 жыл бұрын
The late 80's through the 90's was the best era for the NBA. That said, in at LEAST the 90's, if not a few years before, MJ was the best and most valuable player every year. He should have 6 MVP's, minimum. Look at the impact he had on his team: The year he retired, the Bulls couldn't even beat the Knicks and get to the East Finals, much less the NBA Finals. Almost the same exact team, added, plus Kukoc, drop Paxon/add Kerr. And if you look at some of the role players, their numbers dropped a good bit without MJ there. HUGE difference. MVP. GOAT.
@wanilimbe
@wanilimbe 3 жыл бұрын
My guy the Bulls were still top 2 in the league without Jordan, that entire game 5 vs the Knicks was rigged. Your underrating that 94’ and 95’ team.
@kevinjackson9573
@kevinjackson9573 3 жыл бұрын
@@wanilimbe no the bulls were the team with 9th most wins and the Knicks were clearly better than those bulls they had Patrick Ewing , Oakley and John Starks ( Starks averaged 20 points in regular season that year)
@SealofPerfection
@SealofPerfection 3 жыл бұрын
@@wanilimbe Results matter. Bottom line is, they finished 2nd in the Central, and lost to the Knicks. The same Knicks that they owned with MJ. Sure, they were still good, but they were not and never would have been a championship team without Jordan. That's an MVP right there.
@jbailey690
@jbailey690 3 жыл бұрын
@@wanilimbe Here you are being proven wrong yet again. Must be a Lebron hating Jordan the GOAT this much and constantly proving you have no idea what you're talking about. Typical.
@KingPurpose18
@KingPurpose18 3 жыл бұрын
2010 nba > 90s nba
@_1luljayyy
@_1luljayyy 3 жыл бұрын
Haven’t even watch the video and already know Jordan should have 10 MVPs
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
no doubt
@369pendulum
@369pendulum 3 жыл бұрын
Well if you know basketball you'd know he didn't even play all 10 seasons available..
@_1luljayyy
@_1luljayyy 3 жыл бұрын
Pre Law I’m talking about he should have MVP in 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 96, 97 and 98 that’s 10 years. But they stop giving MJ the award cause he was too dominant and they want someone to have a chance to win it
@Phori859
@Phori859 3 жыл бұрын
Pre Law he actually had 11 full seasons
@funnyspoonman7437
@funnyspoonman7437 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Hakeem was flat out god tier in some seasons
@Tauror
@Tauror 3 жыл бұрын
Thats all i needed and it became personal with me
@toddmusic
@toddmusic 3 жыл бұрын
We don't think MJ's the GOAT. He IS THE GOAT.
@kfl16
@kfl16 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@emack4371
@emack4371 3 жыл бұрын
PERIOD
@armandodelossantos736
@armandodelossantos736 3 жыл бұрын
Not to Olajuwon. He was just another player Olajuwon owned
@siddharthpatel5125
@siddharthpatel5125 3 жыл бұрын
Armando De Los Santos how though. Hakeem never got a chip when Jordan was in the league
@emack4371
@emack4371 3 жыл бұрын
@@armandodelossantos736 the Dream was a BEAST but stop capping.....MJ da GOAT
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
If MVP's were given the right way only about 5-10 players ever between the '90s and present-day would have an MVP
@DavidAF311
@DavidAF311 3 жыл бұрын
3:26 my goodness showing Chuck’s shin girth it’s amazing he moved around so fluently
@nostalgicbliss5547
@nostalgicbliss5547 3 жыл бұрын
Dude was thicc. Had tree trunks for legs. His base was really strong and he could run and jump with the best of them, especially in his Philly years.
@kingofdetroit358
@kingofdetroit358 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm happy u made this video...your videos r better than other youtubers
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! That means a lot.
@kingofdetroit358
@kingofdetroit358 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonnyarnett your welcome
@HenryZhoupokemon
@HenryZhoupokemon 3 жыл бұрын
It would be Jordan 1990-1999
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@HenryZhoupokemon
@HenryZhoupokemon 3 жыл бұрын
InThePaint Jordan stans have less IQ than lebron fans
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 жыл бұрын
Henry Zhou true
@wanilimbe
@wanilimbe 3 жыл бұрын
Hakeem from 93 to 95 Jordan from 90-92 Malone from 97-98 and Jordan in 96 again
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