Whenever I hear someone say anything abt 10-15 years ago I still think 2000-2005 range. Time really flys

I wish we could go back.

@@DARTHNECRION seriously, take me back!

We're getting old 😅

@@tennesseecurtiss5741 I think about the 90's haha

hello, do you like markets?

@@briantcideu8619 hi brian

@@asterling2776 hi

@@briantcideu8619 guy eats natural hotdog

@@asterling2776 yeah i know the video you're talking about

maybe that's because radio is actually lossy as hell and is an inherently compressed medium

@@spitgorge2021 we had the same FM transmitters in the 90s brother

Complete lies

@@spitgorge2021 I think he meant dynamic compression, more on volume, loudness and dynamics and not data compression.

actually i think the loudness wars have more or less ended due to streaming services having automated loudness now. you can even notice dynamics coming back in a lot of new songs

Rip our childhoods

Yes

U right

Haha

its 13 years

this will be wrong soon

FR

This video only demonstrates how the song would have been *mixed* During the early 2000's to mid 2010's there was a loudness war in basically every genre. It was all about whose music had the loudest mix, which led to clipping when all frequencies were amplified to the max.

Me too lmao

Me too

Same

@@Celatra cool but if I tried my amp would blow up because of the volume

I see eye to eye on that

imagine seeing 23 years ago on there that would be so weird, but probably is gonna happen

@@suqma yea, like the original Ryan Higa “how to be” videos will have a “2 decades” stamp on them

farewell my friend

Nice

Same hereee

@@amyjonestaylor9231 same mate xd I though the video was from 2020 and It was from 2008 xd

@@darkangelvegeta9690 i was happy for two seconds i tell you

i searched

Same

"Oct 7, 2008"

found the boomer

You're actually right

HELP SAME

I was expecting earrape.

They shouldn't remaster 70's and onwards. Most CDs and Vinyls from the time and today that aren't remastered are fire 🔥

The Doors or Led Zeppelin sound beautiful, Inxs, Depeche Mode, like come on. I'm more of a Nu-Metal person but y'all get it xP

@@ThaTruFily I'm not gonna take the opinion of anyone who says "vinyls" seriously

@@BrodyArgo Turntable discs? That you like little combative rascal? I don't tolerate people like you. Antisocial kid.

@@BrodyArgo Let's hear it big guy, how are they called? How does one work? Stfu if you know nothing!

Aidan Garvey Yeah this just came into my recommendations :/

oh my god I just realised

Aidan Garvey no it’s not! It’s 18 years ago!!

This video was released in 2008

Aidan Garvey...yes but in. Doesn’t matter...over your head mate.

Sterling Archer exactly

Sterling Archer yeah wtf

No idea why but me too like what relevance does this have now?

Sterling Archer me too

Sterling Archer, I know right....

Haha boomer bad amirite guys?

@@VOTE_REFORM_UK lol a "my own research" guy. No hate but you can't be lecturing people being so out there.

@@VOTE_REFORM_UK Just sayin'

Well, Kurt mumbled so much people didn't know what the lyrics were, and high schoolers did in fact snort, well, bleach, and stole toilets at school back then. And blew up toilets with cherry bombs. So not much has changed.

"mumble rap" what year are we in

@@wavsnackssss he still in 2018

Oh brother a boomer learned how to use a computer

@@artoro8 Congratulations! Good for you

I got a nagging suspicion this person didn't bring the volume back up after compressing the crap out of it

the irony is that you can change the volume... back in 1994 they still used records/vinyl so they didn't need to digitalise the music. therefore, music has NO form of compression whatsoever when it's embedded in literal wax, whereas, digitalised music either comes in lossy or lossless compression depending on the audio quality. which obviously means you'll lose some data when listening to it digitally..

Dynamic tracks sound more open too. Compression is probably the most abused yet underutilized and misunderstood audio tools of all time.

@@swaggypanda1808 two completely different kinds of compression my dude. Sounds to me like you're talking about data compression (the lossy data types like MP3 that have their bits "compressed" to save file space). The video is about dynamic compression, which is making the loud parts of the song quieter, so you can turn everything up again and make it louder without clipping. Dynamic compression has been a thing almost as long as electric audio has been a thing. It just didn't get so abused until the early 2000s.

@@swaggypanda1808 ... what? So if i use an analog compressor to record something, then press it into a vinyl, it wont be compressed? come on, think with your head.

ThatLittleKitten me

ThatLittleKitten and then realized it was 2008

Was there even trap back to 2008?

More like a heavy ass djent break down 🤣🤣🤣

That would be terrible

Straiden same

Me 2

probably because your profile pic is from 2008.

Same

sAme

I expected a 3edgy5me br00talz "core" version tbh.

Stormborn Björnsson Honestly Same

i expected an 'edm banger'

I was expected big breakdown all over the song

blank I was gonna like your comment but saw it at 666 likes lol

Nice explanation! You would prefer the older version then, right?

Just making sure I understood what you said

@@eine_v I prefer the older version personally.

@@ADSaaron Me too but everyone is entitled to their opinion, however if most people out there don't care/can't tell the difference (or both) then it would make sense to let the music have its natural dynamics no?

It is basically the Audacity functions of Equalize and Amplify, correct?

Pierce To Remember Infant Chelsea Ocean Ate Horizon FIND* not found

Pierce To Remember Infant Chelsea Ocean Ate Horizon same

The algorithm only just caught up to 2008

I was only 2 in 2008 so... mum still made me listen to this though. Glad she did!

get off youtube @angel miller

Yes compression got better over the years, but just because a shit looks like gold doesn’t I would want to buy it.

@@abdo-dr1tu so you're making a blanket statement about compression in the mastering track? It's always shit?

@@abdo-dr1tu also my main point wasn't even about how compression got better over time lol

AI resonance suppressors - you mean like soothe/Gullfoss? If so, I wouldn't say they necessarily give the "dynamic feel" or help to increase perceived dynamic range, so I find this example to be kind of strange.

@@user-br9th4ei6v yes soothe and gulfoss but there are other ai assisted dynamic eq/multiband compression plugins (that all have similar ideas but work differently) on the market. The idea is that the overall volume is capped and controlled by compression/limiting but different areas in the frequency spectrum are constantly reacting to the audio and pushing and pulling so it creates spectral dynamics so yes it gives it a "dynamic feel" - I say that in quotes because it's up for interpretation and these plugins won't affect the overall dynamics

lilkhalim Oh man 10 years im feeling old everytime i saw '2008' im thinking "oh it was just a couple of years ago" and then i realise

Me too lmao this randomly appeared in my recommended

same here lol

me too lol

me

Dunno how i or everyone found a 10 year old video it's really odd

Hell yeah! Hot tub time machine is working! Now we can fix the economy.

Jason Pike came here from a steamed hams meme

Jason Pike came here from clairo

what's wrong about that, newold winds never bad

sameee

deadass thought the same

Me too😂😂

Same g

Same omf

yup. Remasters are usually garbage

honestly i feel like if all the members are alive, able & willing, then they should just re-record the record.

@@dysperdotted nobody likes that. it's been done in the past and labeled as a "remaster" and considered awful. People always like the originals more

@@SmallPersonRoo i’ve never heard of any records that do do that before, but the way you describe them makes them sound like they could barely play their instruments in time.

@@dysperdotted an example would be Rust in Peace (2004 Remaster). People just don’t like the re-recording because they prefer the original tunes. Of course, there are people who prefer the newer ones, but usually it’s just better to leave the music the way it should be

254jerome u dont say

IDLEEEEEEEEEE

the title confused the fuck out of me

Nice profile pic

Idleglance ik i’m here in 2018 like WHAT????

I MADE THE 666TH LIKE OMG

This is literally a decade old. "If it was released today"

RetroRageasaurus me too tf

yeah me too alrdy lowered volume

The video was fucking made in 2008, look at the release date. "Today" to the person that made this WAS 2008.

same lmao what the fuck was 2008

but youre in 2018

i was expecting to hear some lil pump

Tennyson Lipscomb yeah but there hasnt been any iconic 2018 defining music yet

Tennyson Lipscomb I'm in 2020

It's a mystery

I know right?

Así funcionan las redes neuronales de KZfaq.

Many old videos are resurfacing in peoples recommend recently. It was a miracle. KZfaq actually fixed something.

ikr

Obie Tmuny with justin beiber😒 i hate 2018

Follow me on insta, @__factor

Smells Like Team Ten (ft. Nick Croumpton) (MUST WATCH!!1)

GoNeR **** BORN IN LE WRONG GENERATION

Alex Zurp7 LOL

I mean the loudness war is somewhat subsided. Producers are starting to change back to focusing on sound instead of loud music

When your comment is gonna be one day old too

haha yea wtf

it's still relevant, unfortunately

pablo jams: nah, not all producers and bands understood it yet. some of them start changing back, but there's a lot more to go to finally make the scene at least as decent as it was in early 90s.

Sirus Blenke What are you doing here futaba?

SethDorito what are any of us doing here?

Dominus Mentis Because we don’t have lifes?

Me 2

This comment is old school.

Marcial Caleche haha same and it was actually 10 YEARS AGO. KZfaq is drunk

me too

Same lol

Same. Interesting piece of observation from 2008 though.

Same

Modern pop music was the best thing to rant about, I remember bowl haircut Justin Bieber being ranted squeeky or something. Also this is one of the recent comments the channel owner's has hearted

I just wanna grill for God's sake

did you forget the 90’s happened

I just want to grill

nah I complain more about music anyway

Now this is epic.

12 years ago LEL

13

TODAY.

say lul to a dutch person :)

Davide Parodi lmao it get faster and faster as you age. It's slowed as a kid because there's so much to see and take in. As you get older, there is less stimuli and time goes very fast

Easily silly it just passed

loose how has 6.5 billions years fly by?

yeah same

me too i was expecting a "brrr brrrr" or some shit lmao

Good things it’s not!!

VF7 literally me bro

In 2018, it would be like this: [Cue lazy electric drum music] Teen spirit Teen spirit Teen spirit Yeah [Insert bad autotuned rap here] Teen spirit Teen spirit Teen spirit Yeah Teen spirit Teen spirit Teen spirit Yeah

NightFury lmao poor guy

Dam

I subbed to your channel out of Africa. :)

Yes.

@@BoxOfCurryos I somehow got this video recommended again, and saw your comment. I'm happy to tell you I've made it :)

Sooooooooo original

J Wightman true

I still mess with rock though

J Wightman I'm only 2 years older wtf

TOO SP00KY LMAO HE IS

Hey, isnt the Rihanna s Disturbia very good? Lmao

Fenix right haha

what the fuck the algorithm does xD

Lol sup

Fenix KZfaq is just never good with the recommendation system whatever you call it. Some of my favorite KZfaqrs don't show up in the recommended at all. It's sad

Fenix I was your thousandth like. Congratulations.

It's the end times and we all need to be reminded that some cool shit went down too.

I'm not sure, but I like it.

Me too

KZfaq is broken, always recomended old videos

KZfaq History Month I guess

PatateTony35 Unfortunately, yeah. Everything was mastered poorly. The dynamics of the bass and drums arent nearly as good

I've heard it. It sounds lame. The louder you try to play, the lamer it gets. I'm so happy I have the first CD.

I buy 20th anniversary edition, play it, I think WTF!!!

Damian K. Yeah :(

Exactly? The 20th anniversary "remaster" sounds even worser than this.

Derpy Hooves REEeeeeeee

LOOOL

I can stop looking, I just found God.

I'm wheezing so hard jesus christ-

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

thankee bois

Koro Sensei ! #acrocks!

Koro Sensei Aren't you supposed to be dead?

Koro Sensei loll

Not actually. Over-compressed songs are a consequence of bad remasters influenced by the 2000's and early 2010's bad mastering techniques. Excessive dynamic compression has nothing to do with CD or 16-bit (lossless) Digital Audio, since the 16-bit format (which the CD is based on) can cover a wide dynamic range. Extreme dynamic compression is just "2000's music producers bullshit" (and when considering the wide dymamic range of 16-bit PCM audio, in the end it sounds like a paradox).

@@Canal_em_Vazio Agreed. Wide dynamic range has been available for years and pro (and amateur) digital recording studios have been working with 16, 24 and 32 bit depths with sample rates going up to 96 (and even 192) kHz for some time, though many plugins, CPU's and storage would struggle/not work at these higher rates. Waves plugins, in particular, have been heavily abused in the loudness war - their L1 Ultramaximizer is generally regarded as the primary culprit, making it waay too easy (1-3 clicks) to flatline the entire waveform to virtually 0dB, if you so wish. The big driver to the L1's use is in record/CD stores where the whole war was about making a track/album much louder for the potential purchaser compared to a non-maximized track. Of course, this won't work on radio - their airtime compressors would nullify the L1. During mixing, throw in the pro studio's 'real' autotune editor - Celemony's Melodyne (does waaay more than adjust note pitches!!), quantize every track, etc etc. Finally, get Simon Cowell to 'sponsor' you, lol, and...well...you get the picture. Is music currently(!) dead? - no, but we appear to be racing to get there. A generation of youth have already been indoctrinated to accept mimed crap as their listening choice. Way too many comments here don't help that viewpoint, unfortunately.

Audio engineer here. The dynamic range of any track, as well as anything else about the track, depends on what its purpose is. If it's a recording of a performance of a symphony or something, then sure, don't compress anything, just make sure it's never clipping. But if it's something more like metal breakcore, a genre that basically entirely exists to be as harsh as possible, while still having some kind of rhythm, then lots of compression is definitely something you want. Digital formats and vinyl have nothing to do with this, by the way. If anything, the progression of technology has allowed for more dynamic range than ever before.

Vinyl made a comeback because of it’s large art and collectability, most new vinyl collectors aren’t really in it for the sound quality

To be fair, you could also compress audio on a vinyl. It all depends on the mastering, that is, if there's any. Most recording studios nowadays like to peg the VU meters on their mixers, hence why a lot of modern music sounds like garbage.

Yap lol

NoTcH o_O Yeap

Look the upload date smartass

Lol

And this was uploaded ten years ago. Please pay attention.

+EmperorTigerstar he probably killed him self not to listen to this generations shit music

After all, Justin Bieber was born a month before Kurt died.

The same night as their last show IIRC.

I love your videos dude! I had no idea you were also a Nirvana fan!

BS

It's old (awesome) youtube wanting to return to free us from current (meh) youtube?

Håkon T. It's KZfaq's algorithm f'ing up

Yeah, a sign of the times

weird af

Dude, have you seen the new Call Of Duty World At War?! I can't wait to play it on my Xbox 360!

Pallum13 newspaper industry just died

mate next year buy bitcoin.. trust me.

Have you guys seen that new Wall E movie it was pretty good

Ever heard of the Iron Man movie and its rumored cinematic universe? I really doubt if Marvel is going to last for a decade and such.

Because the high frequencies get buried under all other. Basically when all frequencies are equally loud it will lower the overall volume because you looee dynamic range.

@@Celatra Yes, this is a thing I’ve learned in marching band, instruments don’t have to play loud to be heard, the just have to fit into the band and the whole thing will seem louder

reporting for duty.

Phobic. Yes sir!

No sorry dude, I’m a 2019 dude

Phobic. Here 🙋🏻‍♂️

here

Welcome to you as well traveler! You look weary, care to take a seat?

Hello sir

@@paytonbowling7259 Woahhh, another one!

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Snob

Snob

Snob

@@randomboys1000 @Woodsgump @SquareisEpic It is not snobbish. Listen to death magnetic. The overcompression can make it hard to listen to at times.

@@randomboys1000 I, unlike a snob, prefer to go deaf listening to my music

nOx1D3 man KZfaq, Instagram, and Facebook's algorithm and fuck off...