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@@Toni... *femme fatale And yeah they can rock that look

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Love these Ellie-Jean!

I love your content, thank you for your work! When I see your face I think Ingenue and Ethereal, rather than classic, why is that?

I once met a cosmetic surgeon who told me - you face is probably the least desireable when people are really young but as people age it becomes the most desireable face they want. You have a gold standard face . So I find it odd wheen people that didnt have any cheeck bones or lips have features that were formally ugly or manly

i love this comment bc its so comforting for those with ethnic features that arent eurocentric

@@MsMrReason I think I know what you mean. Growing up, I got made fun of because of my sharp jawline, high cheekbones, and large eyes. My mom has them & so do my grandmothers on both sides of my family. I’m Hispanic and it’s more common, but in the early 2000’s in the state I grew up in there was hardly any diversity at the time so it was “weird.” It is better now, but at the same time I noticed that the same people contour their faces to resemble the same features they used to mock. So odd to me. I just embraced my natural looks by the end of high school & would even highlight my high cheekbones and large eyes. I’m only in my mid 20’s so it wasn’t that long ago when people were still making fun of women and girls with high cheekbones, sharp jawlines, and large eyes..

@@kayv5840 frrr. now everyone wants thick arab eyebrows 😐

@@kayv5840 there's no way sharp jawlines were made fun of....

I agree however 0 plus size/ curvy women were shown

That's a lie I saw 2 fat ones in there

@@fredlives9188 Wow, you are so pleasant 💅

Celebrities and models tend to have healthy diets, and time, money and access to fitness.. therefore overweight women are a minority when sourcing photos from that realm.

@@goooska33 fat isnt a bad word.

That’s lovely to hear, I’m so glad you find my videos fun! ♥️♥️♥️

I recently had an in-person consult with John Kitchener. My consult included both the PSC System of Color and Essence Harmonies. Mr. Kitchener is a trained artist with a very high level of color acuity, along with the education (and experience) to understand the technicalities of color. Mr. Kitchener is the opposite of a "formulaic" color consult. You are not placed in a "season" like HOC (4 season) or Sci/Art (12 season), etc. Not that there is anything wrong with those systems. But much of the benefit of your consult depends on the natural talent and training of the consultant. And, most people are typically a blend. Personally, I found a great deal of variation in the Sci/Art (12 season) community. (Don't get me started on the 16 season system.) The Essence Harmonies segment of my consult was also very informative. The most significant aspect of Mr. Kitchener's systems is that you are NEVER just one thing. He believes and argues that we are all blends of different essences, much like your personal coloring. This made a great deal of sense to me. I am happy to share more information regarding either of the two consults if anyone is interested.

@@anyaamasova6607 What was the most valuable thing you learned?

@@wendyduncan9084 On the color side of the consult, I ended up with a very detailed binder of color samples all in fabric swatches. In a few weeks I will receive a smaller size sample booklet for shopping but, again, all in fabric. Mr. Kitchener explained that there is a significant difference in looking at color samples via fabric swatches versus printed color on paper. It is hard to imagine how many fabric samples Mr. Kitchener has in his drawers. All hand cut by him. In Sci/Art I was first a Soft Autumn, then a True Winter, next a Dark Autumn? and lastly a Soft Summer. Soft Summer was reconfirmed and in the 80s the Color Me Beautiful consultant analyzed me as a Summer. I do have coolness in my undertones, but I am not cold. But, in some colors I can take a bit more warmth (slightly.) This nuance is not available in the formulaic systems. And, in the Essence Consultation, nuance again plays a huge role. I could never figure out what Kibbe I was (either with the 13 class system of the newer 10 class version.) The reason; because I am blended. I am 5'7" and thin but not skinny. I am mostly Classic, but I have a good dose of Romantic (softness) and the same amount of Dramatic (vertical) or Soft Dramatic. I appear taller than I am. I also have a pinch of Natural in me (shoulders) but I would never dress like most Naturals, naturally. If I wear jeans, they will be dark wash, tailored and I will have a very feminine top on (classic and romantic) and beautiful shoes on my feet. The nuances of the blending just made total sense to me. Hope this helps!

@@anyaamasova6607 thank you so much. You seemed to have had a wonderful afternoon learning so many things. I agree about the way light interacts with color on fabric. Its very nuanced.

Thank you!

Doing the lords work

Thank you!

Lol I’m a romantic and laughed that the time stamp 7/15 is my birthday lol

@@tula1433 wow how perfect is that 😃😆

I feel that! I’m 5’10 and I identify the most with the ingenue!

That's exactly me lol, I'm 5'11 but everyone says I have a cute face, my eyes are very sympathetic and my lips have a dramatic cupid arc, giving me a very 20's look

Kibbe's system is supposed to help you to understand your lines (bone structure + flesh) in order to find the best fabrics, cuts and shapes for clothes, jewelry, hair and accessories to enhance your natural beauty or to achieve a certain image. Sometimes, the facial features and the body structure are not exactly aligned, and those are the cases where the Kibbe system alone won't be enough to understand that particular beauty, so the concept of Essence will appear. The Essence is related to the "appearance" (yes, because not always what looks soft, tall, or short really are that, our eyes can be tricked by small details that changes our perception) of your shape - mostly your face :)

Depends, as an athletic girl 6ft, I was always told I was a “big girl” never really associated with anything ethereal or feminine 😅

I definitely relate! I’m 5’9 and if I were short I’d be a textbook romantic, but I love how Ingénue and Ethereal were described! Makes a lot of sense

This is so great to hear, and it’s so true - it’s just a tool you can use if you want to!

Classic may be an option for you though! There’s a lot of balance in classic faces especially if you’re considering Masc/Fem features, for example in Kibbe I’m a dramatic classic and that 100% helps me express my dramatic (masc) essence in a balanced way

@@alextaylor3850 hmm nope, glad you found your style but I feel more like a natural leaning towards gamine. I just don't take all the suggestions too literally as I am probably a mix of types.

You may be a mixture of two or something like that Aly art has a lot of good videos on how to find your body type with this system

Tom boy style or butch was missing.

@@truffaut650truffaut6 yes that too. I wouldn't call my style tomboy but they missed most of the spectrum or what women can be or how we feel authentic in our clothing choices.

Curious about your argument for Classic -> mushroom! Because they’re like a 3rd different thing that’s neither yin nor yang?

@@sarahlelievre6391 I think it's because she recommended simple, minimal, and balanced outfits for classics. The mushroom style root is defined by the rule of thirds (so balanced), simple patterns or jewelry, and classic pieces. I'm sure my correlations aren't perfect but the similarities are interesting to me.

I love this! I am a flamboyant natural, my essences are most likely natural, classic, and romantic. I am still in the process of fully understanding my style roots, I have found out my main two are mushroom and earth. The third one is possibly flower or fire. So yeah, your correlations make a lot of sense!

I totally agree. Combining Ellie's style roots and kichener essences I totaly see that now. I struggled with my kibbe type so using the other two methods I do see myself gravitating towards the ingenue in flower, sun in gamine and natural in earth. However I personally think dramatic would be more liks mountain due to the sharpness and confidence it executes and ethereal to be more moon as its feels celestial and out of the world.

I agree, except for Dramatic and Ethereal. I would say that Dramatics suit best with the peaky sharp mountain lines, and Ethereals suit best with the misterious beyond the earth vibe, but it's a great correlation.

Omg I love this!!

What would you assign to ingenue

@@isaespi14 pixie 🍃🪡

i think romantic is more mermaid than fairy but other than that 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

I love the fantasy themes. This comment has convinced me we need a DnD themed style system lol. Imagine how cool that would be!

Wow Giulia this made my day I am so glad that you have got such a positive result from my content, makes it all worth it!!!

i naturally fell into this essence the moment i gained confidence 3 years ago. i’m 23 now. it just makes sense

I realize now I also am pure romantic!! I struggled for so long with my feminine side and it really is a process for me to get to the point to embracing it ! Everything makes so much sense here, thank you for this video !!

and i’m a pure natural with natural essence. now it makes sense why i’ve always felt like myself in looser casual clothes.

You don't have to follow your type. I'm a flamboyant gamine, but I wear classic and natural lines. I hate colour blocking, and other FG recommended fashions.

looking 17 at 22 is pretty normal

I'm a fellow ingenue too! Do you think we suit the natural types of clothing? I don't really like wearing youthful girlish clothes and would rather wear a more timeless, conservative (longer sleeves and everything) clothes but Idk if it will make us looks like we try too hard and didn't match our own preferable style :(

@@kezyuck325 I think that natural clothes (more relaxed/bohemian) can look good as long as you keep your body shape in mind. For example, wearing completely loose fitting garments doesn't suit my body. It just makes me look bigger. So I always make sure there is some more fitted element. So maybe flowy pants with a more fitted top (doesn't mean skin tight) so I don't lose my shape. Or straight jeans with a simple t-shirt (tucked in) looks nice. Basically all the ways to give some waist definition. Maybe also look at how you can make use of lengths. So a high waisted pants/skirt with a shorter or tucked in top. Or a extra long flowy blouse with skinny jeans. Color wise look at what shades might work for you. I am quite pale with neutral to warm tones. So softer shades work better for me then very dramatic ones. Although i can get away with a lot because of my more neutral coloring. I for example love wearing more rust colored shades. I have a beautiful rust colored flowy maxi skirt that looks great on me (as i have those tones in my hair), but i would never go for mustard yellows or olive greens. Those all fit with more bohemian/earthy colors but not all work for me. I think it's really looking at how you can make that style work for your body and coloring. I am soft looking all over. I have no sharpness and I am quite pale (but neutral to warm toned). So fully natural styling doesn't work for me, so I take the elements of that style and make in work for myself. So I think it'd keeping in mind your essence, body type and style and try to combine that. My body type (apart from the softness) doesn't completely fit the ingenue type, so if your body does fit ingenue completely as well it might be harder for me to give you advice.

No offence but you're too young to be typed Everyone thinks they're ingenue at 22 because they look young because they ARE if you look the same aged 32 you might get a better idea of your real type Remember kibbe says its not reliable under age 25

@@kezyuck325 kzfaq.info this is a youtube channel I really like all about styling tips. Very simply explained and to the point. Also someone who goed for timeless pieces and tends to keep coverage in mind for the people that find ot important

That's what I was thinking while watching. It's hard to find examples you can resonate with when you're mixed. I'm asian european and I barely shared any of the features of the examples she showed

Half Spanish and half black I can’t tell what I am!

Okay so, I'm *not* perfect, but I did decide to see if I could find some examples of people I *think* could fall into each. If they're double-listed, then I think they have both. My method was looking at their features and impressions, but also doing it with a sense of "compared to people with these features" vs "compared to white people." I tried to find examples that were East Asian, Indigenous, and Pacific Islander as well as people who were mixed-race Dramatic - Lucy Liu; Quannah Chasinghorse; Maggie Q Gamine - Lucy Liu; Kelly Marie Tran; Auli'i Cravalho Natural - Melissa O'Neil; Naomi Scott; Maggie Q; Chloe Bennet Classic - Constance Wu; Gemma Chan; Naomi Scott; Kelsey Asbille; Romantic - Gemma Chan; Olivia Munn; Ingenue - Lily Gladstone; Sacheen Littlefeather; Lana Condor Angelic/Ethereal - Michelle Yeoh (tbh, to me, she's one of THE best examples for this essence *ever* that I can't even find another example)

I recently had an in-person consult with John Kitchener. My consult included both the PSC System of Color and Essence Harmonies. Mr. Kitchener is a trained artist with a very high level of color acuity, along with the education (and experience) to understand the technicalities of color. Mr. Kitchener is the opposite of a "formulaic" color consult. You are not placed in a "season" like HOC (4 season) or Sci/Art (12 season), etc. Not that there is anything wrong with those systems. But much of the benefit of your consult depends on the natural talent and training of the consultant. And, most people are typically a blend. Personally, I found a great deal of variation in the Sci/Art (12 season) community. (Don't get me started on the 16 season system.) The Essence Harmonies segment of my consult was also very informative. The most significant aspect of Mr. Kitchener's systems is that you are NEVER just one thing. He believes and argues that we are all blends of different essences, much like your personal coloring. This made a great deal of sense to me. I am happy to share more information regarding either of the two consults if anyone is interested.

@@anyaamasova6607 do you work for him? Because that giant paragraph you wrote is giving advertisement

@@Ri57490 No, I do not work for Mr. Kitchener.

Yes please ;) How many different essences is it normal to have? Do some have only 2 and others like 6?

I would trust that overall effect you create which is that innocence, you probably have ingenue essence if this is the case, remember its not about having ALL of the features, but enough that it creates the impression :)

Yess, ingenue and classic does look a bit similar interms of face features

same here. my facial features align most closely to ingenue but my personality leans more into the classic essence, and i also tend to dress like that. honestly, i feel i'll look silly and not get taken seriously if i followed the girlish ingenue style.

I’m opposite of you! I fit the classic description, but look best in ingenue styling!

I'd say Audrey Hepburn is where those two meet, fashion-wise.

We're always a mix of different essences too, rarely just one. It is quite common to be a mix of 3-4 essences!

fr ! i see the trend continues in the comments.. i feel like natural had the least flattering description so you don’t see people identifying with it a lot

@@sophiasieczka asymmetrical face, average and friendly looking, of course nobody wants to be the 'plain jane' type

I also felt like a lot of people are saying they are ingenue just to look the most youthful, because that seems to be what’s starting to trend. As someone actually ingenue (who’s 27 and gets mistaken for 13-15) I can say that the majority of you don’t look like that 🥲 and I’m not sure we’re all of a sudden all these people in the comments are claiming to. I personally see little people in person that look like myself and even online. I’d personally kill to look a little more sharp. I feel I stick out like a sore thumb with my baby face and short height. It seriously embarrassed but I’ve learned to embrace is. It’s just annoying when you finally accept yourself when you’ve got bullied for years for looking a certain way and now everyone wants to look like that/gaslight themselves that they look so

You might be a soft dramatic then. I thinf if you are pretty thin, you could still be a soft dramatic taking your face into account. The length does add a yang aspect to your face, even if it is quite soft.

​@@wanjahe8749 It's a good idea, but I'm not thin. I have an athletic body type despite being quite tall, and I've never been told I have soft features if that makes sense?

@@rubydoo3307 I think of the natural types as being the more athletic type bodies.

Same here! I found that I have a soft classic body type but my face fits more of the romantic essence than a classic face. My body is well proportioned with some roundness. My face on the other hand I don’t believe is very symmetrical. It fits more with the romantic essence.

Same here. A dramatic body type but with ethereal essence. I have some long subteley curved lines in body together with the length and sharpness 🤷‍♀️

Love it! Embrace it 😘

That's so great! Thank you :)

That’s so lovely to hear!!! Aw I love that ☺️☺️☺️

Is masculinising a word

I found out a Greek nose doesnt make a lady look masculine , but it symbolizes yang yes. Tolerance and artistic way

It's the shape with most symmetry so like In the statues it makes you look very timeless classic. No worries. It's even cute on ladies so there.

Glad you enjoyed it, you are so welcome!

So she’s made a romantic body + gamine face vid and she called that “goth fairy”. Inspired by that, I tried to think of what the natural body + ingenue face archetype/aesthetic might be, and came up with “the farmer’s daughter”. disregard if you don’t like it!

@@theveryfirstlostgirl I love this! Hahah I have actually been looking more into it, and realised that when it comes to my face, Ingenue isn't one of the essences. I believe my three essences are Classic, Natural, and Romantic.

Thank you so much for your continued support!

Soft and harsh features, yes! Absolutely also my experience. Hooray for ethereal essence!

same here!

@InÊs CaStRo yeah I think she’s like a mix of both!

@InÊs CaStRo she’s definitely more ethereal. Watch it again

@InÊs CaStRo she's cute because of her personality not her face features

That’s a great idea I love that!