If You LOVE One Of These Additives, DON'T Watch This Video!

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26 күн бұрын

Additives, some people swear by them. Others swear at them, so who's right? As a Certified Lubrication Specialist, I reveal the TRUTH about both Fuel and Motor Oil additives via laboratory testing and real world used oil analysis examples.
CORRECTION: The boiling point of Sea Foam is below 100C (I said Fahrenheit). The flash point is below 100F, which is what I meant to say.
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Who is the @themotoroilgeek ? I'm a Society of Tribologists and Lubrication Engineers Certified Lubrication Specialist and Oil Monitoring Analyst (I've maintained both of those for over a decade). I also worked for Joe Gibbs Racing for 12 years as their lubricant specialist. During that time, we worked with Wix Filters (one of our sponsors) to test and develop filters for our race engines. We also worked with Lubrizol and Chevron-Phillips Chemical to test and develop oils for our race cars. Following that, I was the head of R&D for Driven Racing Oil. During that time, I formulated and tested over 50 products. We also worked with Cummins, Comp Cams, Oak Ridge National Labs and General Motors on various R&D products. Those efforts are recorded in peer reviewed white papers published by SAE International and ACS Sustainable Chemistry journals. I also own and operate SPEEDiagnostix, which provides used oil analysis.
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@themotoroilgeek 25 күн бұрын

WOW! I'm blown away by the response to this video. Thanks to everyone who has watched and commented. Whether you agree or disagree with me, I appreciate you taking the time to watch the video and for caring enough to share your thoughts. There is no way I can respond to all these comments, so please take this as my thank you to you!

@WrenchHead 25 күн бұрын

You have opened pandoras box :) don't stop now haha.

@BluRibbonReviews 25 күн бұрын

Thank you for all the information you've kept me from putting Seafoam in my oil crankcase, as the bottle says it's completely safe.... At this point, I don't plan on using it as a fuel additive anymore to clean my injectors.

@kickeraudio987 25 күн бұрын

Please review professional products offered at dealers like BG

@themotoroilgeek 25 күн бұрын

@@BluRibbonReviews smart move!

@pacman3908 25 күн бұрын

Lake jr please review zmax I use it to remove carbon from rings and valves it feels like my engine has more compression ,power

@BMoris95 25 күн бұрын

From my understanding, Seafoam is meant to be added 100-300 miles BEFORE an oil change. It is meant to help break down deposits so they are removed when changing your oil. It is not meant to be added with fresh new oil as an additive.

@jameskoskinen6763 25 күн бұрын

Exactly. It's understandable that adding seafoam to fresh oil will have an effect on it but that's not it's intended use. The way I understand Seafoam to be used is that it's intended to act as a solvent and remove sludge deposits right before an oil change

@RyTrapp0 25 күн бұрын

But you might as well add it just 1 car drive before an oil change - because, as LSJ showed, it evaporates at typical oil operating temp, it basically has up to the point of the oil reaching operating temp to actually do anything.

@KStewart-th4sk 25 күн бұрын

@@RyTrapp0 Since it evaporates at such a low temperature, i can't see it being of any use at all. Didn't sound like he did either.

@tsslaporte 25 күн бұрын

Doesn't matter it likely doesn't even last 1 mile regardless of when you use it.

@hotrodray6802 25 күн бұрын

You missed the point. If Seafoam degrades NEW oil this much, imagine how it degrades USED oil. Grabing all that wear for 300 miles before an oil change is questionable. If you're using good oil there shouldn't be any crapp in your engine anyway. THINK ABOUT IT. ****** Berryman B12 is much much better for unsticking rings and cleaning injectors at 1/2 the price.... As if that matters.

@WrenchHead 25 күн бұрын

"As the oil life is shortened, the deposits will increase." That's specifically why I've never felt comfortable with 10K(+) mile oil changes, even with the best oil.

@mastercricket7626 25 күн бұрын

Agree , I don't even go half that .. dont care what the bottle say I go by what car tells me and how oil is looking and smelling and if it still had any "tak" to it still otherwise between 1 and 3k I change oil .. peace and love bro keep it rad stay safe and build on l8z

@user-sf7kl9uh7k 25 күн бұрын

Use ACEA oils, they have a much better additive package.

@typrus6377 25 күн бұрын

Oil analysis is the only way I trust past 5k. I've seen diesel engines with bypass filtration make it 15k on a change, with full-flow filter changes at 3k and bypass at 5k. I've heard of them going longer. Thing to remember there is that removing the fine contamination slows the other degradation, as well as every filter change you are replacing 1-4 quarts of engine oil, depending how big your filter is. So you get a small refresh of your additive package at that point, which helps stretch the life. But sending an oil sample out every 2-3k is good practice. It isn't terribly expensive, and can tell you a whole lot about the health of your engine. You can even see if your air filter/clean air ducting is not doing it's job right.

@JP-xd6fm 25 күн бұрын

@@typrus6377 I have a Mercedes B class diesel from 2012 and I change the oil every time the car sends me to to so. So far so good with almost 300k km on it. And if I'm honest I have no idea how many km intervals is my car recommending.

@bmwlane8834 25 күн бұрын

It's totally fine unless you're doing frequent shift trip or doing track days. I changed oil in my 2005 BMW 530i every 15,000 miles like the book says and I sold it to a buddy with 400,000 miles and he is still enjoying the car!

@nicholaspetre1 4 күн бұрын

Tried Sea Foam once in tank and and inside the crankcase for 300 mi. Did absolutely nothing. Would rather spend money on smth else. Thank you, Lake. I wish this video was released earlier. Selling snake oils should be forbidden on the governmental level.

@HMuny55 15 сағат бұрын

how do you know? what was it you were expecting?

@andrewanderson1436 17 күн бұрын

Man that's awesome. I've told people for a long time now not to add stuff to the oil, and now I have proof. Thanks.

@greggc8088 25 күн бұрын

I love that-"I used brand X additive and picked up 5 mpg." Well I used brand X additive and I lost 5 main bearings." LOL. I wasn't expecting that. Hilarious.

@user-wu2pg5zh2r 25 күн бұрын

I used brand X and created the Power Puff girls.

@MendicantBias1 25 күн бұрын

I used brand X and got scurvy.

@user-wu2pg5zh2r 25 күн бұрын

@@MendicantBias1 Er ah, that's black syphilis yo. Didn't you read the instruction tome?! Ee gads man, you need a doctor!

@davidcaskey4669 25 күн бұрын

I used brand X a d my 95 dodge 12 valve will do mach 1 now

@bonzo3485 25 күн бұрын

@@MendicantBias1did you drink it instead of putting it in the car? Common installation mistake

@shannononeil2751 23 күн бұрын

As a State government worker we were required to add a quart of Hyperlube, company was homebased here, at each oil change in our State issued vehicles. After a few years and a series of unexplained engine failures, Ford tested, found the additive and determined overtime it restricted oil passages, which caused bearing failure. No more additive or lose your warranty. Now we just use engine oil.

@BionicRusty 22 күн бұрын

Exactly. A manufacturer would never recommend any additive, only the specified, undiluted oil recommended by them. Adding any additives would immediately void the warranty. I’m guessing Ford told your dept to go whistle for the repairs.

@davihazel3653 22 күн бұрын

Wait a minute, so you work for the criminal organization known as gov stealing money from my paycheck, taking food out of my kids mouths because your too lazy and cowardly to get a real job in the private sector? Well at least I don't have to steal from your earnings through taxation to exist. Your welcome 🙏

@fm00078 21 күн бұрын

Are you sure it wasn't Lucas Oil Stabilizer? In my large engine motorcycle I used Lucas O.S. and it did what you mentioned. While using Hyper-Lube O.S. in its twin bike did not. My issue was the Lucas as it drained down the engine block walls left a gummy film and stopped the Neutral switch from operating. Currently after 100,000 miles Hyper-Lube didn't.

@user-sf7kl9uh7k 18 күн бұрын

@@fm00078 You don't need any snake oil, just regular (7-10k) oil changes

@patrickpatton7123 17 күн бұрын

It's bc the company owner had friend or family in the government ...extortion.

@Nightwolf769 19 күн бұрын

Thanks for the info, completely changed my mindset! I've used Prolong on several engines, and never noticed anything bad, but seeing your analysis results, I will never use an additive in my engine oil ever again! And I'm forwarding your video to my mechanic buddy!

@maniacalmango 18 күн бұрын

I have 10 years worth of Blackstone oil analysis sheets I can firmly vouch for 3 standout additives. The first one is the regular Rislone Oil Additive in the yellow bottle, does indeed clean sticky rings and greatly reduces oil burning and afterwards wear metals were lower than ever. Second one is Liquimoly Ceretec, we ran this in over 50 ford 5.4 and 6.8 triton engines and saw a huge decrease in wear metals for 15,000 miles and 3 oil changes later (Liquimoly states it works for 20,000 miles). Wear returned to the "average" number given by lab after 20,000 miles. But we had 3 valve tritons last well over 300k and are still on the road going strong thanks to Ceretec every 20,000 miles. Third is the Liquimoly Mos, this is a great additive as well, personally ran between ceretec treatments in my personal car which was VW 2.0t, cam followers lasted 80k miles instead of the average 35k. Sold the car with original engine and turbo with over 300k on it.

@77GR1982 10 күн бұрын

Exactly, I honestly don’t believe in his body language. Something with this video is wrong, his approach on these additives, the way he mixes them can also be done with regular oil and have very similar (foamy) results. Almost like a doctor telling you to only use his medicine instead of taking different known (better) alternatives. I personally have been dealing with oil and fuel additives for well over 20 years and never once had a problem. He also doesn’t mention that oil and car manufacturers make and sell their own additives like AMSOIL, MOTORCRAFT, etc.. So that’s that among other things.

@FormulaXFD 25 күн бұрын

I was always under the impression that Seafoam wasn't an additive, but a solvent/cleaner that you were supposed run only for a very short time just prior to an oil-change...

@jackelracer593 24 күн бұрын

Correct

@ctrlaltdebug 23 күн бұрын

given the boiling point and water absorbtion, sounds like Seafoam is mostly alcohol.

@ryanrehfuss 23 күн бұрын

@@ctrlaltdebug From what I can find, the functional ingredients are pale oil, naphtha, and isopropyl alcohol, basically a combination of lightweight solvents. It would probably be good at removing deposits if used to soak a cold engine

@whatta7793 23 күн бұрын

You're 100% right, the bottle even says if I recall correctly "add for 100 miles before an oil change". Also in the video, he said fuel additives are good didn't he? Guess what Seafoam does.. oh, you can put it in your fuel and it cleans your fuel system?! sayy whattt?! No way! I've saved plenty of beaters with Sea Foam and MMO. Bought an OBS gunked to non belief and was struggling to hold 5 psi oil pressure. Guess what happened after putting in some good ole Sea Foam? One FILTHY oil change and 60 psi oil pressure cold startup. Same truck also had a small leak at the rear main seal. After I changed the oil that had Sea Foam in it, I put 1 quart of MMO + 4 quarts motor oil, and now, you won't believe me.. but that rear main seal hasn't leaked since then. I wonder what he would think about the OGs who would put kerosene in the crankcase every now/then and let their car idle for 2-3 hours before changing it and never having any issues with their vehicles?

@dlg5485 23 күн бұрын

You are correct. I've been using Seafoam this way for decades. I add half a can to the oil and the other half to the gas tank about 200 miles before each oil change. Helps keep the engine and fuel system nice and clean.

@johnbarnett2804 25 күн бұрын

Oil has definitely changed a lot over the years. I remember back in the mid 80's when you pulled the valve covers off an engine with over 80,000 miles you had to use a spoon to scoop all the hardened crud out of the rockers. Now, I've worked on engines with way over 100,000 miles on them and they still look clean. Shows the big improvement in the packages in the oil.

@willg.5168 25 күн бұрын

Back when o/c intervals were at 3000 miles

@MrSteve8511 25 күн бұрын

Yet we see cam and lifter failure in all brands now. But I suspect it's a engineering problem.

@OtisFlint 25 күн бұрын

PCV improvements are a major factor in this also. Keeping the crankcase in vacuum at all times greatly extends oil life.

@WayToManyAssassins 24 күн бұрын

Oil technology back then was very basic

@surfordie82 24 күн бұрын

Popped the valve cover on my old '06 Corolla with 240k miles and it was spotless, no varnish or discoloration, let alone sludge. Maintenance in the first 140k is unknown. Maintenance by me in the latter 100k was 4k-5k mile OCIs using Pennzoil Platinum 5w30. Proof that frequent changes with a high quality oil is the best way to keep your motor clean. Oh yeah, and it still doesn't burn any measurable amount of oil between changes...

@tjmeyer3037 16 күн бұрын

Hi Lake, First off, THANK YOU FOR HELPING YOUR AUDIENCE!! We truly appreciate what you share. I'm not much of a tune-up in a bottle mechanic short of gas additives to keep injectors clean. That being said, years back, I tried and liked Slick 50. Then, at some point, the company sold, and the recipe changed. I didn't catch it right away, but when I did, I stopped using it. Now, recently, the original Slick 50 inventor started selling the original formula, updating the technology and promoting it as classic or original or something like that verbiage. It would be fantastic if you could include both versions in your next oil additive rundown. Please keep up the great work. You rock buddy! TJ

@ThunderHead289 11 күн бұрын

I want to play devils advocate here as someone who has ran the Lucas oil stabilizer for pretty much my entire life without issue. (Granted i drive only old-school flat tappet classic era stuff) Some positives which you almost somewhat indirectly confirmed for me here we're that it doesn't conflict with an existing additive package, only delutes it - so if you change your oil at 3k-ish like I do, probably not an issue. What I can speak to from pulling valve covers is the cling factor - it definitely keeps a nice oil film on critical parts after sitting for awhile. On a dry start after a couple days, things basically run dry till oil gets there - it's small, but compared to anything else probably pretty high wear delta. I wouldn't be surprised at all if mitigating those dry starts, especially with flat tappet cams, has enabled me to stack copious amounts of miles on old classics without any notable wear. I'm not married to either idea, but I do have reason to beleive that there is something to the cling factor. I "think" that's the sneaky sauce behind it. Would I put Lucas oil stabilizer in a modern 0w-20 type vehicle? Heck no. Wouldn't even consider it due to the viscosity. Only old-school flat tappet cam engines - and still I'm highly mindful of my oil pressure.

@Funkydood 25 күн бұрын

You're slowly becoming my favorite motor oil consultant, sir.

@KreemieNewgatt 25 күн бұрын

In my case, it was quite rapid. Lake Jr really knows his 💩

@dukecraig2402 24 күн бұрын

Seriously? And who is it that's in competition with him that he's slowly gaining credibility over? Some flunky like Project Farm? From day one I've laughed at his videos and how he thinks he's proving anything, if he or anyone watching his videos knew anything at all about conducting experiments they'd know that there's these things called "controls" that need to be put in place to eliminate the possibility of the environment around him along with other factors affecting the results, and of extreme importance, especially with tests on engine's that are run, is the fact that it takes hundreds of samples to remove variables from the equation, everyone knows about the occasional Lemon that comes off an assembly line well then how does Mr "My Labroratory Is The Shed Behind My House" know he didn't get a lemon engine when he does his "one has the oil additive and the other one doesn't" tests? He doesn't, it takes the scientifically analyzed results from hundreds of engine's from entire fleets, like taxi and delivery services and other large fleets, with periodic oil samples taken from them to get a true basis to formulate an average, and he ain't doin' that in the shed behind his house. If the "top of their class that's why they got hired by the oil companies" chemical engineer's wanted those chemicals in their oil they'd have put them in there from day one, it's comical to believe that some flunky who couldn't get hired by the oil companies has come up with some combination of chemicals that makes their oil work better than they could, and that another flunky in his shed behind his house can prove it, absolutely comical.

@jblank74 24 күн бұрын

@@dukecraig2402 How many racing teams engine programs have you worked for? Let's see your qualifications and certifications.

@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261 23 күн бұрын

@@jblank74 He was talking about Project Farm, not Lake Speed Jr.

@anthonyc1883 23 күн бұрын

@@dukecraig2402 Very impressive! ;-)

@geemee3364 25 күн бұрын

The best oil additive is fresh oil, meaning frequent oil changes. Some people, for various reasons just cannot bring themselves to do that. Also, the use of oil additives has a strong psychological component.

@nordlicht1881 25 күн бұрын

It does, and even though I thought "this probably is just dogshit", I put an additive in. A liqui moly one. I'm happy to have found this. But now... My engine sounds... not broken, but weirdly different, and my oil smells fuely. I want to loose as much of this additive as possible. What should I do? Or is this probably unrelated? Or is it too late and my engine has a problem...? Well... I've learned: No fin additives. Oil already has enough of them.

@Torchedini 25 күн бұрын

Change oil again, that'll bring the oil to normal levels again. As for extra engine wear, it is already done. You can tear it down or keep driving it. If you really want to purge it do a double oil change with some driving in between. Driving to flush/ mix the oil that is in the engine.

@DeuceDeuceBravo 25 күн бұрын

@@nordlicht1881 I wouldn't worry about a short term additive. Especially Liqui Moly since theirs seem to be relatively benign. It will be gone with the next oil change.

@nicholasfoley7105 25 күн бұрын

Most people couldn't find a drain plug if you were pointing at it...

@JimmyLLL 25 күн бұрын

Must be an american thing. I don't know anyone using them here.

@steven4894 21 күн бұрын

Thank you for your honesty and Truth. 🙏

@Arexodius 20 күн бұрын

I love that you have a scientific approach to what you do Lake! Really appreciate the work you do man! Just want to point out that even if one is striving for a scientific approach, one should not underestimate what goes into scientific research at a scientific laboratory. What I mean by that is simply that, even though your results are very telling and at the very least work as a strong indicator, unless you can scientifically prove that you have accounted for every possible variable and eliminated every source of human error (which isn't really practically realistic), we can't technically call it *irrefutable scientific proof* of anything. In fact, doing so at all is very unscientific to begin with. What we definitely *_can do_* however is draw some reasonable conclusions from the results you got. And I think you have definitely aided in that regard with this video. Thanks man!

@themotoroilgeek 20 күн бұрын

Thanks!

@Duramaxjon 25 күн бұрын

This is the video we needed. FR3 gained popularity in the diesel community because Hot Shot’s tested it in a Cummins on Firepunk Diesel’s dyno. They showed that FR3 slightly increased the power. After seeing your video, it would have done that because it lowered the viscosity but it’s actually INCREASING wear. Very good stuff here that a lot of people are going to hate to hear

@plav032 24 күн бұрын

if you have excessive carbon deposits, increased wear can be a desirable result - briefly.

@oldrabidus2230 19 күн бұрын

Everything has a tradeoff.

@donls1sscme 18 күн бұрын

I run the fr3 with the synthetic blend penn grade diesel oil in my 1200 hp cummins that was actually built at firepunk ... im thinking about thinking about not using it anymore

@DeuceDeuceBravo 25 күн бұрын

I predict this video is going to get massive viewership as it gets shared on forums and discussions all over the internet. Outstanding info. Hopefully this helps people ignore the nonsense marketing and keep some of their money. Thank you!!

@themotoroilgeek 25 күн бұрын

Absolutely! Save your money!!! Thanks for the kind words.

@Ron_Masterjohn 25 күн бұрын

Yes and there is going to be some brands that are not going to be very happy with the truth being out how they are ripping us off.

@blackcoffee730 25 күн бұрын

@@Ron_Masterjohngood!

@user-sf7kl9uh7k 25 күн бұрын

Slick 50! 😂

@NotNowCato1254 25 күн бұрын

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k Jeez, is that stuff still around?

@Nfscarbon07 19 күн бұрын

You said if you had to add additives to your oil, you're using the wrong oil! That's why I started running diesel oil in all my old vehicles with flat tappet cams, since they took zinc out of oils years ago but diesels still run it, it's perfect! Great video

@justahick3236 17 күн бұрын

Lose timeing chain and sticking valves on a ford ranger ran seafoam in the oil and gas tank and the spray it cleaned up a lot and made it run better now i use lucas heavy duty oil stabiliser to help the timeing chain and it sounds much better even though its at 250000 miles

@KHIJAPAN 18 күн бұрын

You blow my head away ! I have been using additives since I was born 70 years ago! WTF I was wrong for so many years, spending thousands of Euros (in your case, dollar) for doing the opposite to what I was looking for! Thank you for being so informative 🙏

@janetbrowder6685 24 күн бұрын

I worked 22 years at an oil packaging facility, in blending and testing. We heavily relied on Lubrizol, Chevron/Oronite and Ethyl additive companies for guidance. All preached that modern engine oils are finely tuned blends, that work well when changing oil regularly. Additives only unbalance the chemical composition of the engines oil and weren’t necessary and weren’t recommended. Shorter drain intervals were recommended over adding any store bought additives, as they are mostly marketing gimmicks....yielding 💰💰💰

@DirectCurrent4u 23 күн бұрын

💯 Fact!

@casey360360 22 күн бұрын

Lubrizol is the GOAT. Literally invented ZDDP. They’re forthcoming with information and test results too.

@MarkTrades__ 22 күн бұрын

and now the auto OEMs are trying to sell us 10,000mile oil change intervals + lifetime tranny fluid SMDH

@randomusermaximuss 22 күн бұрын

@@MarkTrades__ And they're right. That trans fluid will last the life of your vehicle when it dies from the transmission seizing up.

@MarkTrades__ 21 күн бұрын

@@randomusermaximuss LOL EXACTLY 🤣🤣

@21crookedstick 24 күн бұрын

OMG TY for doing this. I'm a fleet Manager for a large company in the Northeast and I just took over a year ago. There is an entrenched belief among some of our mechanics that Lucas is helping with our aging fleet. I have tried to tell them that all we are doing is thickening the oil. I have tried to tell them If you truly believe that a higher viscosity is the right answer for engines that idle a lot and have high mileage, then just use a thicker grade. Now I have my proof. TY so much for giving me a reason to dump the expensive snake oil.

@plav032 23 күн бұрын

That Lucas oil stabilizer is only used to store engines, put it in and run it for 10 minutes and shut it off. It will cling to the surfaces better and prevent corrosion. It's not a anti-wear additive.

@oneninerniner3427 23 күн бұрын

Naw, then they'd be losing money, they want you to use it all the time! I call it Lucas mucus ! Lol

@NixonAngelo 22 күн бұрын

@@plav032yep. It's not a fair comparison. Basically an internal fogging

@garychandler4296 21 күн бұрын

Remember the plastic Lucas gearboxes in the Otto parts stores? I used to think, "How is GLUE supposed to give me better mileage?" Apparently, I was right!

@motorpartsgururestorationc9116 21 күн бұрын

@@garychandler4296🎉

@user-dj1ep6vf1z 17 күн бұрын

thanks for taking the time to share....💙💯

@themotoroilgeek 17 күн бұрын

My pleasure!!

@odelldickey2218 17 күн бұрын

Thank you for you time and effort making this video. The information you provided is very important and much appreciated. Knowledge is power to make wise , informed decisions. Thanks Again!

@RJHerb 25 күн бұрын

I don't usually use motor oil additives. BUT, in defense of Marvel Mystery Oil, I must say I used it once to find out if it would free-up a stuck valve in my 91 Volvo 740 2.4 non-turbo with 360,500 miles on it. I added one quart of MMO to a quarter tank of gas ( 4 gallons), and added one quart of MMO to the crankcase (total of 4.5 quarts). After driving the car for 32 miles the valve started to move, and when I reached 60 miles the valve started functioning properly. New subscriber.

@kevinpoehlmann5157 25 күн бұрын

Adding a quart of ATF to the oil will do the same thing as MMO and will be cheaper

@hotrodray6802 25 күн бұрын

Have used it in oooold airplanes that have been sitting. It worked.

@plav032 23 күн бұрын

@@hotrodray6802 yup! I've commented a few times that I've heard of it help increase compression test numbers on aircraft engines that are below min spec with success. It's not an anti-wear additive as tested, but actually intentionally the opposite.

@williamtarpley4025 23 күн бұрын

Mmo has been used since before ww2 used in plane engines to industrial motors why is it bad now?

@fen2453 23 күн бұрын

@@williamtarpley4025it's not, it's just overpriced atf fluid.

@highrzr 24 күн бұрын

"Don't put that crap in your engine" is the best comment I heard. Yep, use the oil that fits your needs with no additives.

@camillosteuss 20 күн бұрын

yeah, i was one of the additive fans, after switching to shell rotella or rimula, however you wanna call it, i never use any additives... Good oil is all that you need... Anything else is just plain compromise...

@ryans413 15 күн бұрын

I’f you change the oil regularly and the engine is running healthy you don’t need extra additives.

@pete1342 8 күн бұрын

Plus, use the manufacturers recommended viscosity oil! Thicker oil does not equal better lubrication, and you are not smarter than the people who designed either the engine or the oil that's supposed to be used in it.

@scomi 15 күн бұрын

Great Video! I never use additives but always use a motor flush before the first immediate oil change, when I buy a used vehicle, usually MMO, I have tried others. Then change the oil again in about 1000 miles. Can't wait for your motor flush video. Hopefully, sooner than later I'm in the market for a used vehicle right now. Keep up the great work. P.S. When you show a screenshot of an analysis please use a curser so we can follow along better with each of the numbers you explain. With a large highlighted area it's easy to get lost in where you're at.

@user-nv2co2pe3y 21 күн бұрын

I am so grateful for dedicating your time to educate the public at large

@themotoroilgeek 21 күн бұрын

Thank you!

@stupidbird4U 21 күн бұрын

Thanks mate. You've changed my bad habit and saved me money. I over service my car and change the oil & filter every 3000 miles. No more oil additives.

@ultrapepe2905 10 күн бұрын

@@themotoroilgeekwhat's you thoughts on whether to change oil say each year even thought say half the specified change miles/kilometers have been done?... Like does oil in your tests accumulate moisture from sitting around if you have done such tests?

@guydent9046 13 сағат бұрын

@@themotoroilgeek I watched this, and your other video stricktly on zddp additives. and I have a friend who just got a 2015 tdi and he just changed with the good oil 507.00 but he put 1/2 cup of STP (with zddp) in it. Should he do an immediate oil change?

@PotatoeJoe69 25 күн бұрын

I use Seafoam frequently. I've used it on an old Harley shovelhead, bore scoped it before and after. It did remove some carbon off the piston, and cleaned the intake and exhaust runners a bit. I have also used to go clean out gunked up carb jets when feeling lazy and it worked. Never used it in oil, but my understanding is that it's not a long term oil additive. It's intentionally a detergent supposed to be used very short term and exclusively for the purpose of cleaning deposits.

@mondavou9408 25 күн бұрын

That is how I use it. To the fuel system right before oil changes. Clean and go. I don't want it in my new oil.

@joesnodgrass9057 25 күн бұрын

Actually came here to point this out. Otherwise I agree with everything in the vid.

@CS_247 25 күн бұрын

Italian tune-up, run engine at ½ throttle while pouring a quart of brake fluid down the carburettor. Smokes like a mo-fo for a few min, but scrubs ALL the carbon out. Hate to know what else goes with it.... 😂

@Andrew-jm4tp 25 күн бұрын

Yes. I was taught to add Sea Foam to oil the day you plan to change oil and then go for a 20-100 mile drive to work it in. Then change oil. I have never added it to fresh oil.

@DataToTheZero 25 күн бұрын

If you're going to flush. CHANGE THE FILTER FIRST. And then change it again after you drain your flushing oil. If an engine needs cleaning, the filter is almost certainly going to be full of dirt and already bypassing... I just do short cycles on oil. go to sub 1,000 mile oil and filter changes. Cleans up in a few oil changes. It's the safe way to do it. But at the very least don't be flushing an engine with a filter that might be bypassing due to being full of dirt.

@rayzimmerman6740 16 күн бұрын

I learnt something new today, which is useful. Great start to the day. Profound thanks..

@larrychambers4407 17 күн бұрын

Great video ! Lots of work and lots of good information. You are THE Guru. Keep up the great work ! THANKS !!!

@MeltingRubberZ28 25 күн бұрын

Seafoam singlehandedly unclogged the injectors on my diesel dump truck. WELL worth the money.

@mcplutt 25 күн бұрын

You must have used it in the fuel then? 🙂

@MeltingRubberZ28 25 күн бұрын

@@mcplutt yes. I know in the video he showed it in the oil. Terrible idea using it there.

@Si0nbarzahd 24 күн бұрын

@MeltingRubberZ28 it's good under the correct circumstances, had a v10 dodge that only held 5 quarts of oil after a change, put seafoam in the oil for like 100miles changed the oil and way more came out than ever had before. Truck now takes the correct 7 quarts of oil per change.

@floridaman5125 23 күн бұрын

Google project farm seafoam , I’m a believer it works. I’m a nobody, but I like seafoam and motorkote.

@duckwacker8720 23 күн бұрын

It's a fuel additive not oil.

@Irish_DEMON 25 күн бұрын

Definitely need to do this is with fuel additives to see how it would affect the oil by being in the gas.

@DeuceDeuceBravo 25 күн бұрын

I was always told by mechanics and oil company reps that fuel additives should be used up (i.e. run the tank down) then do an oil change. Because yes, they will have an effect on the oil.

@Jasiel.95 25 күн бұрын

@@DeuceDeuceBravowell that’s probably important…

@herewegoagain7403 25 күн бұрын

@@DeuceDeuceBravo not true. fuel additives are designed for continual use without oil changes. Read the prints from redline and techron.

@KStewart-th4sk 25 күн бұрын

@@DeuceDeuceBravo Well he just finished saying in the video to use fuel additive cleaners to keep injectors clean and he didn't say anything about changing oil right after. I believe he was talking about diesel injectors but i would assume it would apply to gas engines too.

@ryans413 15 күн бұрын

@@DeuceDeuceBravothere’s no way a fuel cleaner can affect the oil. That would only be an issue if the piston rings were not 100% sealing meaning you have a loss of compression. Fuel is injected then burned if you have a bad ring then it could mix with the oil other then that it won’t affect the oil.

@eugeneanderson7984 12 күн бұрын

I have 40 years in oil sample issues with Cat. As a Tech a Manager and a machine shop owner we will agree on use the correct oil and change it on time the best one thing anyone can do. One extended oil change will cost you more than any oil change possibly causing catastrophic failure. The # 1 issue I find is electrolosis from running nasty coolant or water. 9 out of 10 engines that must be taken out of service is generally from holes in liners. Gas engines you have an advantage on me. Mixing the additives with an aeration type mixer at room temperature may not be super accurate as oil pumps are gear driven for that reason not as much air. Good show.

@themotoroilgeek 12 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing the details about the bad coolant.

@IhabFahmy 6 күн бұрын

Crank counterweight slosh will result in a LOT of aereation in a working engine.

@anonimous2451 6 күн бұрын

@@IhabFahmy Hence the reason for under covers on performance engines. Whatever the real name for em is.

@gregorymalchuk272 4 күн бұрын

@@IhabFahmy The oil level is below the level of the counterweights or the oil would foam like crazy. But I tend to agree that the pump and the flinging of oil out of the rod journals and squirter jets probably do a lot of mixing.

@dperson6557 11 күн бұрын

Interesting... I'm not a chemist but have has chemistry in college and can follow what you are demonstrating with you analyst... I stop using additives long ago in fear that would accelerated seal failure by harding them and creating leaks. You have solidified my decision. Thank You for the time you put into your testing.

@G5Hohn 25 күн бұрын

LSJ is singlehandedly educating the world on modern oil formulations. Well done, sir!

@mankind8088 25 күн бұрын

And exposing🐍🛢️

@tinetannies4637 25 күн бұрын

*I'm unaccustomed to KZfaq videos that actually have informed substance. Well done!*

@KStewart-th4sk 25 күн бұрын

Better start looking around then because there are a lot of good informative Channels on a lot of topics. Automotive repair for one: ScannerDanner, South Main Auto, Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics, Diagnose Dan, The Car Care Nut (mostly Toyotas on his), etc. Of course, one has to be aware that there are those who only think they know what they are doing on a variety of topics.

@tinetannies4637 25 күн бұрын

@@KStewart-th4sk Hey thanks for all those recommendations! Really appreciate it.

@iHaveTheDocuments 25 күн бұрын

Look up project farm

@anthonyc1883 23 күн бұрын

@@KStewart-th4sk I am very fortunate to have The Car Care Nut located so close to me in south suburban Chicago.

@jimmyguy428 21 күн бұрын

Great video! I often wondered if additives could have a negative effects, and the numbers don't lie. I subbed!

@themotoroilgeek 21 күн бұрын

Thanks!

@mevio4665 19 күн бұрын

Much respect for your effort to open our eyes blinded by aggressive marketing.

@themotoroilgeek 19 күн бұрын

Thank you!

@benfowler2127 25 күн бұрын

Thanks for doing all the testing! And then translating it so those of us who don’t have a technical background in the field can understand basics.

@The1Doktor 25 күн бұрын

Thank you for posting this video. This very precisely backs up what I have been telling people since the 80s. The only time you get something positive from an additive is when you've got an engine that needs rebuilt, and a viscosity increase quiets the rod knock. When the engine is at that point, you've really got nothing to lose.

@oldgringo66 25 күн бұрын

If you go to a straight weight oil from a multi weight you sometimes can quiet an engine.

@SomeOne_86 25 күн бұрын

Good old junkyard scumbag trick, pour some super thick oil into an engine with rod knock and sell it.

@ilovebohol 25 күн бұрын

@@SomeOne_86true… bought my Ford 1951 F-1 v8 got an oil that was like cream.

@ilovebohol 25 күн бұрын

It becomes a losing battle, the biggest challenge is fuel dilution and blowback from bad cylinder wall… the oil gets bad, very bad very fast… my 1951 Ford truck will blacken my Lucas full synthetic in about 3 hours run time… in 10 hours run time its like black ink from so much carbon contamination and fuel dilution.

@user-sf7kl9uh7k 25 күн бұрын

@@oldgringo66 Who's running a straight weight oil in the first place???

@michaelzernie7092 9 күн бұрын

Got another subscriber dude. Love these types of comparative analysis.

@themotoroilgeek 9 күн бұрын

Thanks!

@Onlydeandrae30 16 күн бұрын

WOW! This was absolutely genius. Thank you for the information, these are the things that us gear heads definitely need to know!

@michaelmartin2276 25 күн бұрын

When I was a young mechanic in HS my teacher convinced me to use STP. This morphed into using Slick 50. After many years of cross country driving using Slick 50 I can honestly say it has no benefits and no real negative. My 1983 Dodge pickup 4x4 with the 318 V8. Stick shift.Drove this truck till 1997 and it had over 300k miles. No engine or transmission issues. But I religiously changed my oil at 3,000 miles !

@dougrobinson8602 24 күн бұрын

The 318 is criminally underrated. That engine is so understressed that they just keep on running. The 225 slant six is another one.

@michaelmartin2276 24 күн бұрын

@@dougrobinson8602 Agreed. I did so many upgrades to that engine. From big 4 barrel carbs to headers and intake ! Just kept on running !

@floridaman5125 23 күн бұрын

I remeber slick 50 and put it in my 94 trans am for years.

@williamtarpley4025 23 күн бұрын

I worked a Constable he had to furnish his own vehicle bought used police car purchased at auction around 70000 miles used Chevron oil at about 330000 mile oil pressure dropped 10 psi added MMO gained 20 psi drove another 100000 miles Plymouth Fury

@drakesavory2019 23 күн бұрын

My grandfather swore by Rislone Engine Treatment. I realized later in life that he assumed that modern oil was still based on 1940's technology.

@dlb83082 20 күн бұрын

Zinc is not happy with catalytic convertors - but it does have superior wear qualities

@aaronfrench8322 20 күн бұрын

😂

@markrainford1219 19 күн бұрын

Hit the nail on the head there.

@davidkeetz 19 күн бұрын

Yah this is a really good point. A lot of these additives were incredibly help at one point in time when most oil formulations on the market were much more basic than they are today and when engines were all push rod.

@WinkelManBearPig 18 күн бұрын

Thank you for dispelling all rumors about additives

@davida1hiwaaynet 18 күн бұрын

Awesome! Thank you for taking the time to make this. I have always used "just plain oil" of the same brand throughout the life of an engine. Never used additives because others have said similar things as to what you have proven here. The only product you mention which I have used is Marvel Mystery Oil, but not in the engine oil sump. It has helped me with non-destructive disassembly of rusted mechanisms, after which they are rebuilt and then oiled with what they are designed to have.

@rsquared9703 25 күн бұрын

Finally a video that is in English and uses actual tests, science, and facts. (Quietly puts the engine oil additive back on the shelf I’ve been using for years)

@nicholaspetre1 25 күн бұрын

Thank you, Lake, we have been looking forward to finally see your next video.

@camaromustangmods3327 19 күн бұрын

Use MMO in my fuel system and it works well. I would never put anything in my oil. Great video

@billycarlton1294 20 күн бұрын

Great info!!! Your doing Gods work my friend. Subscribed and liked.

@jannek5757 25 күн бұрын

Back in 2000´s, the days when I was studying to be a technician, we had a short scratch on the surface about oils, oil additives and stuff they do. I have not used "special" additives ever since and I just heard pretty much the same reasonings here as what my teacher said back then. Important video, thanks!

@ForrestOutman 21 күн бұрын

Was just recommended one of your videos and wow😮. I love this type of content that isn't speculation but rather let's the hard factual science speak for itself. There is no need for bias as ultimately we all want products that deliver what we pay for. I'm also glad that you talked about the value of fuel additives in order to balance the content and show that it's not all a sham.

@user-fh9jn2dx6g 11 күн бұрын

Fantastic, informative video. Thank You for producing it.

@danielgaskell5490 19 күн бұрын

Great job! Incidentally, oil manufacturers have put in print for many years that they DO NOT RECOMMEND USING ADDITIONAL ADDITIVES OR MIXING OIL TYPES.

@themotoroilgeek 19 күн бұрын

Great point!

@octosquatch. 25 күн бұрын

Seafoam goes in the oil right before changing it to break up sludge. It has instructions. You are supposed to change the oil after 100 to 200 miles if I remember right. It works great, but I wouldn't use it on a clean newish engine, and i don't use it for every oil change.

@Andrew-jm4tp 25 күн бұрын

Yes. What Lake said was true, but he didn't follow the procedure and ignored that variables that come with rehabbing old or abused engines. I wouldn't be adding Sea Foam to a brand new engine.

@p0intdk 24 күн бұрын

Why not just... i dunno, change the oil instead?

@octosquatch. 24 күн бұрын

@@p0intdk You do understand that one cannot change what was done to a car by the previous owner right? Besides that, any car with enough miles on it will have sludge buildup regardless of timely oil changes.

@rue2973 24 күн бұрын

@@octosquatch. Bruh... you can't just do an engine flush or throw additives in an engine to break up sludge past a certain point. At that point it's going to act like a clogged artery and cause a heart attack on the engine. OK well maybe not QUITE the same but the concept is similar. Sludge gets caught up in the pick up tube, it can clog a hydraulic lifter there is a massive amount of things that can happen when you try to break things up in the engine rather than disassembling and cleaning properly. And no, a properly maintained engine will not have sludge buildup anywhere. Idk where you heard that is a normal thing to see with proper maintenance lol

@octosquatch. 24 күн бұрын

@@rue2973 yet none of those bad things ever happened to me, anyone I know, or anyone I've ever heard of. I literally just bought a poorly maintained but mechanically solid 98 Subaru with 180000mi. The engine was noisy and still running a little rough after doing the usual old car tuneup. The oil was fairly clean when I put seafoam in. After 100 or so miles the oil was black as night. Changed the oil. The engine is quiet and running smooth. There's still a little lifter rattle when it's cold. Major improvement if you ask me, and absolutely nothing went wrong.

@Lupinsx 25 күн бұрын

Awesome Video. I was a mechanic for 25 years and have never been a fan of additives. This has confirmed my feelings with data Thanks!!

@JViello 10 күн бұрын

Well....Done. Thank you. Like yourself I've been in the industry my whole life, grew up in it, was the head of R&D for well know turbo company that culminated with me owning my own motorsports Design & Manufacturing CO. For years I would preach the same words and so many people wouldn't believe me. Some at least until the blackstone labs results came back or their $2600 turbocharger with 70 hours on it would decide to self destruct. 🤷‍♂ Great info. Subbed!

@themotoroilgeek 10 күн бұрын

Many thanks!

@ronh9384 9 күн бұрын

Great video. As always. Really enjoyed this one. I would love to see you do a test on Restore Engine Restorer. I have several friends who swear by this stuff saying that it pretty much cured oil consumption issues and a couple said when they stopped using it the car started using oil again.

@richardstone5241 25 күн бұрын

This proves what I have been doing for decades. Use a quality oil and filter and change it every 3,000 to 5,000 miles. Just came across your channel and found it to be right on point scientifically. New Subscriber!!!

@willg.5168 25 күн бұрын

A quality oil and filter? I'd say 5-7000🤷🏽‍♂️

@rfichokeofdestiny 25 күн бұрын

It’s almost like the engineers who design the engines have spent a lot of time thinking about all of this stuff. 😉

@MendicantBias1 25 күн бұрын

3000-6009 miles.

@The_Argent 24 күн бұрын

69-420 miles.

@steverussell6642 23 күн бұрын

@@willg.5168 not 7 no way 5 maybe 6k with highway driving

@kenj.8897 25 күн бұрын

This video was needed , so many shade tree mechanics swear by adding this junk . Thinking they're helping and they're really hurting their engine. Just buy the correct motor oil, and don't go 10,000 miles

@williamtarpley4025 23 күн бұрын

Some shade tree mechanics are better than most are certified guys

@marcatkinson5187 10 күн бұрын

So glad I found this channel. Finally , conclusions derived through controlled testing and confirmation.

@user-xs1hf2jy4t 19 күн бұрын

Thanks for the information, it helps me a lot. I was about to buy an additive for my crv

@53Ericd 25 күн бұрын

Thank you for this video. You have answered my speculations of over 50 years! Excellent job.

@additudeobx 25 күн бұрын

I'm pretty much speechless. This is the most comprehensive scientific side by side test of oil additives I have ever seen in my life. This is science, not speculation. I use an oil additive, however not one used in your tests. MotorKote. I would have loved to have seen it as part of the tests, but I think I know what to expect. Thanks for this evaluation!!

@t.j.cuddington7795 25 күн бұрын

It will quiet engines but produces hydrochloric acid over time. Oil changes should be short in between with it. Better results with Amsoil Signature Oil, Red Line Performance, or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum just as some examples (and these will help quiet the "hemi tick" for example). I'm not an expert but do use the first two oils with great results and have used MotorKote once which worked to quiet a GM 4.8. But only used MotorKote once in this 16+ year old engine. Again not an expert just someone whose driven for over 50 years and enjoy learning from this program. I personally would never put MotorKote in a new engine.

@additudeobx 24 күн бұрын

@@t.j.cuddington7795 How do you know the hydrochloric acid statement? Is there some testing result somewhere you can link? Thanks.

@CL-en8nx 21 күн бұрын

Ive been using Liqui Moly MOs2 for quite some time and ive felt both my engines run much smoother and start much quieter. It's nice to see it just adds Molybdenum and it creates no conflict with the other additives that the oil already has.

@Stratos1988 18 күн бұрын

I never had money to spend extra on additives. Priority was proper oil with on time change intervals. I am happy to see that for once in a blue moon thin wallet stopped me from buying excess stuff. I have another change coming up, and would love to see this flush video you mentioned.

@jackmclane1826 22 күн бұрын

One of the best videos on this topic ever. I never got why people buy expensive expertly formulated oils... and then mix it with a bunch of unknown stuff and think it would help them.

@Humbulla93 Күн бұрын

In germany we have a saying about such thing ,,viel hilft viel" translates to ,,a lot helps a lot" the counter part to ,,weniger ist mehr" less is more. There are brands like liqui molly which formulate the additives to be compatible with their oils. ceratec though should work with all oils as its just a carrier oil with ceramic particles which are also chemically inert

@jackmclane1826 Күн бұрын

@@Humbulla93 So... you use an old saying countered by another old saying to defend the use of additives?

@MikeyMack303 25 күн бұрын

Thank you, Mr. Speed. I've been using MMO for years in all my vehicles and have never had a problem with any of them!

@I_know_what_im_talking_about 25 күн бұрын

You need to specify where exactly you used the infamous MMO. Your statement is too vague. 😒😤

@basshnter1997 2 күн бұрын

I've never used any engine oil additive ever. Watching this video, seems that was the right decision.

@victorzayas7707 13 күн бұрын

I have a C1500 from 1989 350 v8 with a lot of miles,im using 15W40 Diesel oil because the daily use,the only additive im using now is STP to keep the valve seals good enough in "prevention" of oil consuming,which in my opinion its been reduced. I used in two ocations RESTORE compression restorer and in my opinion,IT WORKED,TNX in advance!😊

@MikeTrullAmsoildealer 25 күн бұрын

I agree, <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="405">6:45</a> do not add anything to fully-formulated motor oil. If it's lacking something research a better quality oil

@user-sf7kl9uh7k 25 күн бұрын

Spot on.

@user-wu2pg5zh2r 25 күн бұрын

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k Period

@bobbygetsbanned6049 25 күн бұрын

Exactly! If you think your oil is lacking something, use a better oil. Don't gamble being a shade tree chemist adding your special sauce to your engine oil, that's nonsense.

@user-sf7kl9uh7k 25 күн бұрын

@@bobbygetsbanned6049 Unfortunately, you're always going to come across someone who knows best, who's 1959 classic is safer than anything being constructed today, who attends Flat Earth conventions, who believes the moon landings were faked and COVID 19 was a hoax. You can't help them, let them eat cake.

@ronkuzyk3836 25 күн бұрын

Thanks for the video and telling the truth, even if it hurts someone's feelings. Kicking ass and taking names!

@markcunningham6086 10 күн бұрын

You won me as a sub. I highly believe in the science not the sales-promo. Thanks Mr.Geek

@fuffoon 20 күн бұрын

I feel validated 😊. I have used one brand of diesel for 10 years and injectors are doing well. The proprietary detergents are are worth the price difference. Injectors are about 1000 each with labor.

@The3chordwonder 25 күн бұрын

I used to use Ceratec in my vehicles, in part because it is known to quiet down the "typewriter tick" the coyote v8 makes. Just recently pulled oil pan off my cars, and the pan bottom was caked with "forbidden glitter" so I thought the bearings were shot. But, as far as I can tell, they are not. No glitter found in the VVT actuators, nothing in the valve cover...nothing anywhere else except the oil pan where it was more solid than fluid. I did some armchair research, and there are a few pictures of other people who had similar deposits in their oil pan, and you can see others showing what looks like bearing glitter in the oil. But it's not -- it's the ceretec falling out of suspension. Which really makes sense because even the bottle tells you to shake it up. Lots of good info in here. I can see now why I need to pick an oil and stick with it. Doing the OCD brand changeup throughout the year could be bad as you showed. Also, I didn't think that fuel additives were needed, thinking they are already good enough in the gas. Well. you can't argue with proof, so I will definitely start using it. Thank you for testing these!

@user-wu2pg5zh2r 25 күн бұрын

Copium. People just love to waste money on useless products and argue about how useful the useless product is. Safe AND Effective.

@TheBlack2186 25 күн бұрын

@@user-wu2pg5zh2rnot always. Both coyotes I’ve owned have ticked like crazy unless using Ceretec. There has to be a reason it stops so many of these engines from making noise

@user-wu2pg5zh2r 25 күн бұрын

@@TheBlack2186 I'll give you that. I'm sure I'd feel the same then. Noises like that are almost always ones you have to live with for lack of a solution. Wears on a guy. I'll have to check that out.

@moshet842 25 күн бұрын

I used to think the same about fuel additives until I came across information comparing fuel standards in Europe and the U.S. To put it mildly, U.S gas sucks unless you get it from a handful of brands such as Shell and some well run Sunoco stations. Most of the rest are pretty bad compared to Euro gas. A good fuel additive gets you pretty close to a high quality fuel and that's why I started using them. I personally use gumout and Chevron and the Redline stuff once in a while. I used to wonder why European automotive brands didn't experience as many piston ring sticking issues in Europe as they do here, it's the gas.

@DeuceDeuceBravo 25 күн бұрын

If you're using a good gas then the fuel additives probably aren't necessary either. I try to run an occasional tank of Shell 93 in all my vehicles.

@markbulva4188 25 күн бұрын

2014 F150 3.5L ecoboost. Entire life on Amsoil signature series and truck has 315000kilometers. Doesn’t use a drop. Has never had any internal timing components fail. Zero cold start rattle or any other typical ecoboost variable timing parts issues. I use a dual remote filter setup that has amsoil primary filter and bypass filter. Clean high quality oil and motor runs as well as when it was new.

@weatherwatcher39 18 күн бұрын

Amsoil Signature Series the best oil money can buy!

@TravisHutton-iv9rz 19 күн бұрын

That is totally mind blowing information for a mechanic who has always believed in oil additives! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience! I have a request for a future video please. I have use Penrite oil (here in Australia) for over 30years as a mechanic and have been very impressed with it. How ever I have not seen any tests from you, do you have Penrite oils over there? Would you consider running some oil tests on penrite oils? Or at least have you a guide for oil dummies to use so I can have it tested here in Australia? Thanks for your honesty and knowledge and time! Kind regards, Travis

@themotoroilgeek 19 күн бұрын

Thanks and your suggestion is noted.

@crystalclearwindowcleaning3458 12 күн бұрын

Thank you so much for a scientific explanation of what additives do. I never thought about the dilution factor or the competing chemical problems.

@themotoroilgeek 12 күн бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@retirementplan5882 25 күн бұрын

Would've loved to see BG MOA included in this test.

@rickhansen1753 25 күн бұрын

And the BG EPS Engine flush product

@DeuceDeuceBravo 25 күн бұрын

@@rickhansen1753 He mentioned engine flushes are not good.

@jamram9924 25 күн бұрын

Our shop has used BG extensively. We've used the BG EPR on several occasions and have removed the oil pan from sludge up engines. We don't use it on engines that don't have heavy sludge. BG has a flush kit with rinse oil to help remove heavy sludge deposits. In a normally maintain engine 3-5,000 mile engine oil changing interval, you should not have any notable sludge. We've removed the valve covers on engines with 100k, 200k and 300k with only surface varnish and no sludge. Just use a high quality engine oil with a great additive package. We use Pennzoil Full Synthetic or Ultra Synthetic (on engines requiring thinner oil 0W-16/0W-20W) plus a good filter. Again, we use Wix XP or Wix Gold filter.

@sportil84 25 күн бұрын

I’ve used EPR (engine flush) and brought back sludged diesel engines from being junked. It worked amazingly well. I’d love to see the MOA tested as well.

@7950pacecar 25 күн бұрын

Came to say the same thing. Back when I was an automotive technician 15yrs ago, the service advisor would push the hell out of the BG moa because it came with like 3 months of roadside assistance, and as technicians we got a kickback when we turned in the coins.

@fivestar2227 24 күн бұрын

There is no denying the fact that moly is a fantastic dry lube as its used for rings, bearings, piston skirts, assembly lubes, thread grease, ect. and even a trace additive in many high end motor oils. The liquimoly mso2 additive is a small particle dry lube suspended in a carrier oil that helps to evenly blend it into the oil then boil off. As long as you dont have one of those ultra low micron filters the moly will hang out in the oil until it gets mushed into the microscopic imperfections of the high friction locations resulting in less friction less wear. I use it religiously in all my motors but at 1/4 the suggested dose. Some things I notice when using it are noisy valvetrains get a near instant hush, engines last 2x-3x longer and increased power output. Also I was in a situation where a fuel injector failed while stuck open and I was able to reduce the misfire / detonation with some marv's mystery oil upper cylinder lubricant (fuel additive)

@bry2k 23 күн бұрын

But he just showed that in some circumstances, wear went up even while friction went down.

@fivestar2227 23 күн бұрын

@@bry2k The most expensive motor oils contain moly

@LS1conehead 22 күн бұрын

@@fivestar2227 But it most likely is the newer 'trimer' type molybdenum (or a mix of older 'dimer' type and the newer trimer type) in those high end oils. A LM 'tech' once told me that their MOS2 additive is ONLY the old school, 'dimer' type of moly, unless he was lying to me. BTW; I am NOT a LM 'hater' as I use their Molygen oil in my 1.6 EcoBoost currently. 😉

@LewpyDrewpy714 19 күн бұрын

Just add ATF. About 8oz to ten gallons. It'll clean up injectors. I make 1/3 part Denatured alcohol, Marvins, ATF micron IV. Which is pretty much the same thing as most injector cleaners. Told to me from a old chemical engineer that worked in the automotive industry.

@gregorymalchuk272 16 күн бұрын

Is molybdenum disulfide any better than graphite motor oil?

@sleepervdub 15 күн бұрын

thanks man this was very informative

@reason2gether 19 күн бұрын

I have successfully used Marvel Mystery Oil as a way to "free up" sticking, noisy hydraulic lifters. I only replace 1 quart of the engine's oil capacity and run it a few times up to operating temperature. Then change out the oil and filter. No long-term usage as implied here. In most cases, it would clear up the noisy lifter issue. Then back to telling the operator to keep the oil changes on schedule to prevent a recurrence. (Usually, the issue started due to missed oil change intervals and operating with low oil volume which over stresses the oil that is remaining in the engine). Otherwise, as Lake says, I never add anything to a good quality motor oil of the correct viscosity. Good advice here in this video backed by sound science. Great job Lake! Now do me a favor and stop biting your lip!

@themotoroilgeek 19 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences

@thomasmoye664 25 күн бұрын

I remember watching a british program that tested a well used, somewhat modestly taken care of VW rabbit or something of the like. Anyway, they dynoed the VW with and without the use of a fuel additive specifically containing PEA. The VW picked up about 7hp to the wheels 2 weeks after the use of the additive in 1 full tank of gas. Everyone was surprised. Since then, I've always been interested in this type of stuff.

@BionicRusty 22 күн бұрын

I think that was ‘Fifth Gear’. I remember it. They added different ‘performance add-ons’ to see which worked best and also used a fuel system cleaner (Redex). The fuel system cleaner, on its own, gave more BHP improvement than all of the bolt-ones together. I took a risk, about 6 years ago, and bought a Fiat for £500 (I’m in the UK) with a view of it being my sons first car if I could fix it. It ran bad and had no power. I hoped it was just the injectors and before I changed anything else, I ran 2 tanks of fuel with Redex in it. It transformed the car. I then serviced it and run it for a while, still adding Redex, until I was sure that it was reliable. My son drove and cherished it for 3 years until he traded up. It became one of the most reliable cars, this family has owned. I had to retire early due to ill health and have had to get more back into basic car mechanics as a cost saving (brakes, suspension, belts, etc as well as oil, filters, etc) and I’m loving doing what I can, which isn’t much, but more so, teaching my son. I say to him often, “just remember, every bolt you tighten relies on you staying on the road at 70mph. Before the wheel goes on, or the bonnet/hood goes down, check everything. Then double check the wheel.” 👍

@BionicRusty 22 күн бұрын

I’ll admit that I’ve been using fuel system cleaner (Redex) all my motoring life, and swear by it, but as far as the oily bits go I only EVER use the correct oil and filter. Nothing else. I’ve never even used a flush because of fear of some staying behind which it invariably does. As ever, a great video. Big love from the UK 🇬🇧👍

@DontWorryBeHandy 19 күн бұрын

This is great to know, well presented!

@themotoroilgeek 19 күн бұрын

Glad you think so!

@andrewh7085 7 күн бұрын

My outboard always stalled at idle. Went to several different gas stations thinking it was the type of non-ethanol. used several types of oil-fuel mix. cleaned the carb, replaced the carb, replaced all the ignition components, made sure the timing was spec, made sure the compression was to spec, replaced the fuel tank and lines. Nothing worked. Added a couple ounces of fuel additive and it has run perfectly ever since. I wish I started with the easiest possible solution first.

@kalleklp7291 22 күн бұрын

I've been saying it for years to people who asked me about additives...DO NOT POUR this crap in your engine! Your test results are speaking a clear language. Thanks for sharing. :)

@ericfromflorida5146 25 күн бұрын

So I specifically asked for this video and boy did I get it!!! Lol. Great video!! Thanks and can't wait for the flush video.

@Harold-si7eh 9 күн бұрын

I had been a truck owner for Over 40 years over 4. Million miles and Lucas oil has NEVER EVER FAILED ME! The fuel injector cleaner has took my injectors to over 1 million miles!!! I have A Roto tiller that I put it in,50 years old and still starts! Common Scents!!! Saves Big BUCKS!!!

@oculophilia918 9 күн бұрын

i put trans fix in my 4l;60e and it went from choppy shifts to butter smooth.

@andrewloera5641 9 күн бұрын

@@oculophilia918but did it smell like common scents

@bobber5534 3 күн бұрын

@@andrewloera5641 I suppose if the "common scents" did not smell like a roof tar kettle or a forest fire or even a Honey wagon, you're good to go. However, that familiar scent of old SAE90 in a differential, if it doesn't smell like chit, you know someone used the wrong lube. At least for the most part.

@EasyStreetStyle 18 күн бұрын

Thank you for the lesson! I will never use an oil additive again but I will use a detergent fuel additive. Thank you again!!!

@jamescaron6465 25 күн бұрын

Lake, you do excellent work. In fact your channel should be requiring viewing for everyone who touches a drain plug. I have to admit I have never used an oil additive. I figured if my oil NEEDS extra additives, then I am using crap oil. and I have never used crap oil. I used amsoil Pennzoil ultra Plat and Rotella T6 and will continue to do so until something better comes along and change once a year or every 5k Miles using a top quality filter Admittedly I have used oil cleaners in the past, like ATS 505 but only once per motor. I used it in my wife's Land Rover discovery and out came what looked like liquified coal (and smelled like it too) The motor was much quieter and ran much better. I haven't used it since and the oil comes out looking and smelling normal. I do use fuel cleaners and stabilizers once a year or so. Fun story: I have an 87 Land Rover Ninety with a 2.5 TD engine. I poured in some Amsoil diesel injector cleaner and started the engine. It ran for a minute, the RPMs started bouncing and it stalled. It didn't want to start but after a few tried it fired up again and out the tailpipe came this HUGE plume of black smoke. the RPMs picked up and the engine ran as smooth as silk. Or as smooth as a 2.5TD can run

@modified15r 24 күн бұрын

I had a customer who bought a Honda new and swore by a oil that was purple in color. He used this oil from day one. When we pulled the valve cover for it's first valve adjustment at the manufactures recommended 30k miles we were both floored by how black his engine was inside. The purple dye in the oil had turned his engine black. Never heard another word about how great that oil was after that.

@TassieLorenzo 24 күн бұрын

Royal Purple?

@100pyatt 23 күн бұрын

@@TassieLorenzoyou bet and he needed the royal flush after that

@jacobhurley9587 20 күн бұрын

Lmfao that is a higher performance racing oil not meant to even be in an engine longe term. Bet that dummy thought shiiit this oil turns my car into a racecar? No sir, it turns *your* car into a brick.

@markreynolds3850 13 күн бұрын

👍👍thanks for the information.

@lynsnyder9165 19 күн бұрын

Ruh Roh! I've been using Motorkote additive in all my ICEs for years. Now, I am worried. Great, informative video. Thank you!!!

@themotoroilgeek 19 күн бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@simsneon2 23 күн бұрын

By the way, I certainly do appreciate your education and you, my friend mechanic of 28 years here and thank you again for the clarification. You are the man the oil man

@timepilot2012 25 күн бұрын

This is fascinating information. I drive older, pre-Chrysler Mercedes cars and use only oils recommended by the factory manuals, never with additives. My lowest mile car has 108k miles, the highest 382k miles, never with any kind of wear issues related to engine oil. The only special thing I do is, before oil changes, drain 1 quart, replace with good quality Dexron ATF then drive around at low-medium speeds until the car gets up to temp for 10-15 minutes, put it on the ramps and do the change. My uncle who was an Army mechanic for 35 years told me that the ATF, which is high in detergent content compared to engine oil, provides a pretty safe means of liberating some deposits on wear parts and putting them back into suspension to be drained out. I keep a strong neodymium magnet on the pan bolts which, when removed to drain the oil should allow any metallic particles trapped in the pans to flow out. Any opinion on the ATF "trick" ?

@marlu6373 25 күн бұрын

is a lot of bull.stop it just put quality oil and change it often

@DiscoingGD1989 19 күн бұрын

Great video. I've used Seafoam and Gumout occasionally in the oil, but only ran it for about 50 miles and then changed the oil. Guess I'll just stick to adding it to the gas.

@tyhasley73 12 күн бұрын

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="711">11:51</a>cst 25 May 2024 glad I get to watch this video now before one of these companies pays you to take it down. Thanks so much!

@themotoroilgeek 12 күн бұрын

LOL