Imagine listening to IGN

List of red flags: Narcissism Doesn’t like my friends Distrustfulness Takes IGN as gospel

I think they backed themselves into a corner with forza especially. The games kept being 'more' so they got higher and higher scores almost out of obligation, irrelevant to whether they actually got better.

"Too much racing" Score 7,8 IGN moment

In defense of F355 there was almost nothing really like it. And the arcade cabinet was a a full sim with FFB.

"Need for Speed Prostreet just has a 7" You have to remember that Prostreet received mixed reviews when it came out unlike the previous games. Some liked it while others didn't. The Xbox 360 version in particular was hated because it had microtransactions (yes, microtransactions in 2007) where you could buy cars and upgrades using Microsoft Points (look them up).

Not having a single GRID game on this list is criminal

My feeling has always been 'don't take review publications seriously'. Its hard to trust sources when it comes from multiple members who share differing opinions, but still treat it as if its the website as a whole. Thus resulting in many.. *questionable* review scores. *The only source you should trust is your own.*

Can't spell Ignorant without IGN after all

I think for a finale to this series Dustin should make his own top 100 racing games of all time

1:06:48 - I wholeheartedly agree with this. Yearly games just don't cut it anymore. Whether or not it'll make just as much money as yearly games, I don't really have a concrete answer. The gaming industry should at least try this again.

OutRun 2 (or 2006 Coast 2 Coast) seems like the biggest omission to me, unless we're splitting hairs about what constitutes a "racing" game since the main mode was just racing against the clock (however several games that were on the list including Crazy Taxi were also "race against the clock" kind of games).

The reason why there used to be so many rally games back in the day is because rally as a sport used to be immensely popular during the 80s and 90s thanks to Group B and Group A regulations respectively. The popularity of rally racing died out in the 2000s as a result of Sebastien Loeb's insane dominance during that time period. He won the championship 9 times. And people complain about Hamilton and Verstappen's dominance in Formula 1.

We are missing : - GT4 - GT1 - Racedriver Grid (best game ever) - Grid 2 - NFS Carbon - NFS Pro Street - Mario Kart Wii - Dirt 3 - Nascar Thunder 2004 - Nascar 14 - Driver San Francisco and probably more that i forgot.

That Rick and Morty joke almost went over my head until I looked at the author of the review lol

34:44 It's not a prototype, it's a pre-production video, a concept so to speak, which outlines the developer's plan and vision for the project. The prototype of the second Blur has already been leaked on the net, and it looks different. I once did a review of the whole Blur series, and focused on the sequel. You should watch it, it has English subtitles.

Not a single Trackmania games.... What a shame

IGN can never be trusted, also now you know we have to do what IGN consider to be great racing games

Mario Kart 64 being 110th is a crime. ALSO the Stuntman games are super fun!

Man this editing is just on point. You're the Real Deal. Keep it up champ

Beetle Adventure Racing is one of my faves. please stream it. tracks are very unique with lots of side paths. Please stream it!

Welcome back dustin eden. Your viewpoints on racing games as whole has more weight, authenticity and accuracy than i ever did listening to. Half of IGns Ratings/review

That intro is so terrifying, amazing 🗿

I'd like to see Edens personal top 100 list

What's important to realize is that games like Dirt Track Racing were rated years ago. So while an 8.7 seems high for a game such as that, when it was released in 99 it likely was quite a quality release.

Never forget when TXR Zero got around an 8 but every subsequent Shutokou/Kaido game got around a 6 or less despite being generally decent (Kaido Battle 3/TXR Drift 2 notably was hit with a 4 despite probably holding up the best of any of Genki's racers imo).

Real racing 2 was my game in middle/highschool, I played that game for hours and for a mobile game, it felt fantastic

Stuntman is super fun! I havent played it since I was a little kid but I used to spend hours in the sandbox mode (or whatever its called) you can use whatever vehicle and make crazy setups like ramps and what not

20:31 The iPod you're most likely talking about is a 5th Gen Nano, that's the one with the most features. If you still have that iPod though, i would put it far away from any of your drawers... Because nowadays, ESPECIALLY on the 5th Gen, the batteries have a tendency to explode.

missing games in my opinion: -MotorStorm Pacific Rift (probably the best in the series although i prefer apocalypse personally but thinking that PR came out way back in 2008.. just wow) -Driver San Francisco, a masterpiece of a game -Test Drive Unlimited 1&2, need to explain? -Split Second, not a fan of the game, but I still understand the importance of the game -Driveclub, every time i play driveclub i can feel the love and the passion of all the developers dedicated into the game...sony i hate you -Dirt 3, dirt 2 is still the goat, it doesn't have the same character as the previous one, but they have come very close, I really like the game -Baja edge of control, a weird one yes, I never played such a unique game, it's not a 10/10 game, but I recommend to try it for anyone who wants a completely new experience! -NFS MW2 BETA, I close the comment with this last game, few will understand what I mean... "driver is suspected to be the Rockport Fugitive, driver Remains Most Wanted" do i need to say anything else?

Ferrari F355 has a console and a arcade cabinet the cabinet is actually crazy it’s designed with 3 screen setup in a first person pov

TDU2 being rated 5.5 actually kind of shocked me

I vividly remember “stuntman” as being the first of two games ever that actually made me so mad that I broke a controller. The other was “Tourist Trophy” Lmao

Fun fact on Project Cars 2, there was an overclocking bug on PC1 where if you were running your CPU OC'd, then you'd be faster than the genuine aliens of the game. This was eventually patched (as you'd expect) and that was the end of it (or so we thought). Then along comes PC2 and somehow of all bugs to carry over to PC2, the OC bug was back, but only for AMD processors. I found this out by accident half a year after PC2 had launched (that's just when I got it as a gift and wild that the bug still persisted) as I was just doing random online lobbies to get accustomed to more cars and was immediately framed as a hacker because a bug from PC1 that was patched, had somehow made its way back into PC2 and had to be patched a second time over.

I think the only place where you can really find a realistic score for games in general is steam, because there you'll find people who know the genre, played the game to its full potential and compare it to the other experiences with other games of the same type. obviously there you'll not be able to find playstation exclusives or older games that did not get released on steam, but for the games that you can find you'll have the most realistic rating.

I expected this list to be bad, but holy shit. The fact that TDU 1 & 2 are not on this list is criminal. Also not a single GRID game. Imagine listening to IGN when it comes to games, or anything.

Bruh why did i think the intro was just an intro from one of the need for speeds i didnt play?

I'd love to see a playthrough of both Stuntman and Stuntman Ignition! Both are such unique games that deserve a look at.

Dustin Eden ur my fav gran turismo 4 KZfaq, I used to watch ur gt4 vids and saying that I want a ps2 with gt4 so badly, and thanks to u they gifted me a ps2 and gran turismo 4 [PAL] in my bday, Eden if ur reading this remember that, ur thr best gran turismo 4 KZfaqr in the world and have a good day Edit: he hasnt Still readed comment :(

so dirt 2 and racedriver grid just don't exist 💀

Micro Machine's review was for the Game Boy Color version of the game like you saw the gameplay of, but Mickey's Speedway's review was also for the Game Boy Color, not for the N64 version :P

LONG OPINION THREAD AS I WATCH THE VIDEO - If you play fighting games you know just how useless mainstream ratings are when it comes to genres that aren't the typical action, adventure or RPG. Noticing chat and a lot of comments not getting that a lot of these reviews were done on RELEASE DAY, so anyone complaining "HOW CAN OLD JANK GAME HAVE HIGHER SCORE THAN NEW GAME?" is stupid. They also take into account consoles, which is why games on stuff like GBA or shitty handhelds can get high scores just as much as something on modern systems. Literally the first game of this type and everyone in chat is already going "RATED HIGHER THAN MIDNIGHT CLUB LA?!!!!!" Yes, because it takes into account release date and platform. YES, absolutely play Stuntman. That game was one of my childhood favourites. It is absolutely *brutally* difficult, though. It's legit one of the hardest driving games ever made in terms of completing it. "THIS WAS 1989, THERE WAS NOTHING TO COMPARE IT TO" Racing games did exist before the fucking PS2, Eden, mate. Like there are classics from the mid 80s to early 90s that still stomp the majority of racing games being made today lmao. "You can differentiate between racing and driving games" Agreed, this was pretty much coined by Yu Suzuki when making the original OutRun in 1986. He didn't want people to think of it as a racing game but a driving experience. F355 Challenge is a really fun game, the reason it seems so "bare-bones" is that it's an arcade port. The arcade release actually had a "deluxe" cabinet with three screens that I have gotten to play a handful of times. It was very ambitious to release a sim racer, but as an arcade machine. I really don't care if a game only has one car and a few tracks, to be honest, because I'll play Daytona USA or F355 a thousand times each but not even touch some modern racing games more than once. It's all about the gameplay and how fun it is to replay. Eden confirmed to seriously not know any racing game from before, like, 2005. BLUR STANS RISE UP "Micro Machines 1 and 2 for Game Boy Color" Hey, remember what I said about console being taken into account in the score? "We haven't had a single Forza game yet, only DLCs. No Horizon or Motorsport." I haven't looked but I'm calling it now that all the mainline Forza games are just going to smother the top 20 and make the list entirely pointless. Wave Race: Blue Storm is a FANTASTIC game. I highly recommend it. One of the only games I gave a damn about when I owned a GameCube. "Where did the F-Zero franchise go?" I dunno, Nintendo just randomly decided they didn't want to make games that could convince me to buy their consoles anymore. Seriously my favourite Nintendo franchise and they just don't care because they've got 50 Mario, Zelda and Kirby games to make. And maybe a Metroid if you're a good boy this year. I'm surprised Daytona USA 2001 is on here and not the original. Even though the original was initially released in 1993 it still handles a lot better than 2001. Doesn't matter to me how shiny you make the visuals or if you add new content, if one simply plays better, that's the better game. Ridge Racer Type 4 is Gran Turismo 4's biggest competitor for "greatest PS exclusive racing game" for me. Super good to see it so high. Hell yeah PGR2. I like PGR4 more but PGR2 was so unique and special. FORZA FORZA FORZA FORZA FORZA Crazy Taxi is straight GOATed, I played it for hundreds of hours. I at one point had a top 10 score on the Xbox 360 leaderboards in it, before all the hacked $999,999.99 scores came in. FORZA FORZA FORZA FORZA FORZA FORZA FORZA FORZA FORZA FORZA Checkered Flag for Atari Lynx, greatest game of all time. God, I'm surprised they didn't put the Atari Jaguar version too. It's just as great! (Mediocre) POST LIST COMMENTS: Somehow these lists keep fucking sleeping on Outrun 2/Outrun 2006, literally a top 10 racing game of all time. There's also no Sega Rally or Sega Rally 2, two other legendary hits. However, the biggest exclusion... is that GRAN TURISMO 4 is not on this list. But it got a 9.5! They literally just randomly chose games and ignored higher rated ones! So this top 100 list isn't even close to correct!

IGN also gave Driver2 5/10, ridiculous.

0:03 it’s so surreal seeing the track mod I made for Trial Mountain on Dustin’s intro WTF?

I think Richard Burns Rally deserves a spot. It’s very unknown compared to most on the list but it’s to this day pretty much the best rally sim ever made and has a huge modding community. It’s difficult af for me and it’s a bitch to set up but I don’t think that you can get much better than RBR in terms of rally simulation.

33:36 - didn't Blur kinda market itself like a "Mario Kart for big boys"? I mean, the TV spots kinda did that at least.

A round of applause for our saviour - Checkered Flag! 👏

22:41 vehicular manslaughter

CRASH TEAM RACING WAS INSANELY REPLAYABLE, unironically my all-time favorite video game

Son las 1:45 am donde vivo y Dustin cree que me veré un video de 1 hora y media? Por supuesto que si.

the intro deserves an Oscar award.

1:03:26 As a rocket league player, even I don't understand why he's in the top 18 on this list.

Some levels of stuntman don't work on emulator sadly :(

I'm hella looking forward to seeing a video on Wreckless: The Yakuza Missions if that was the plan

Playing Blur in a LAN party is crazy fun Highly recommend if theres a chance to do it

General rule of thumb for IGN is if it is a mainstream franchise release the game immediately gets 7 points and from then on any and all negatives don't count towards the tally

Hey I’ve got that Heat board game, that shit is actually super fun. They basically turned 1960s Formula 1 into a tabletop game.

Nothing like coming home to an eden video lol!

My Real Racing 3 profile got glitched when I downloaded the app when they launched, I ended up getting infinite currency in that game and didn't need to spend on anything ever lmaoo

Colin McRea Rally 2.0 for the GBA might not look like much, but it had one of, if not the best physics engines in a GBA racing game!

are you planning on talking about the new "tdu sc freeroam trailer" on your second channel?

Hey I just wanted to ask if you're gonna be at Gamescom this year?

It was super nice to see Blur on the list, that game truly is super underrated and to this day it's one of my favorite racing games. On the other hand some really great games were missing. Spilt/Second had on of the most unique concepts I've ever seen in a racing game. While the driving could've been better, it definetely made it up with pure chaos. The power plays are just insane especially the route altering ones. Driver: San Francisco is another pretty underrated gem imho especially considering the shift ability. I've never really seen anything quite like it. Pretty much any early GRID game should be on the list as well. Just all around very polished and fun racers. The fact that FlatOut 2 is not on the list also baffels me. It might be very easy game, but damn it pays it off with some of the wildest and most over the top destruction ever put into a racing video game. Smashing through the field in that game never gets old. And finally - to this day I'm not really sure if this is a hot take or not, because I've seen a fair share of people saying this - the best Burnout game is missing on the list. And that game is Burnout: Revenge. It took everything great about the series and enhanced everything. To this day it offers unrivalled sense of speed with adrenaline levels going through the roof, very challenging gameplay that rewards skill and track knowledge, absolutely killer soundtrack, great tracks with tons of traffic and god I love the addition of traffic checks. Easily in my top 3 of best racing games ever!

Don't play pgr1 on xbox 360. It suffers from slow down compare to original xbox hardware

This list is already criminal but the fact that some games are not included in the list that should definitely be in the top 100 in the list (as of you making this video) is just unbelievable, here are some of them: (I checked them just now and it has been on the list and idk why it didn’t appeared in yours when you checked them out lol) - Gran Turismo 4 (9.5) - Gran Turismo 1 (9.5) - Forza Motorsport (9.5) - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (9.3) - Forza Horizon 2 (9.0) - Forza Horizon (9.0) - Need For Speed Most Wanted (2012) (9.0) - Hot Wheels Unleashed (9.0) - Inertial Drift (9.0) - F1 2012 (9.0) - Mario Kart 7 (9.0) Also, The Need For Speed Most Wanted 2005 in the Top 100 list was actually the mobile game version. They have the audacity to give the console version an 8/10 lol

I’m glad Dustin likes Driver San Francisco, I played that a lot back in the day

Anybody know the background music from 1:19:12 to the end?

9/10 missed Big Mutha Truckers 2

Playing Horizon 5 for me by this point is like CBT- constant pain, but every picosecond now and then I feel something. Shoutout to them recycling models from Horizon 3, removing car modifications from Horizon 3 (Lancia Delta S4 is supposed to be twin-charged, is only turbocharged in 4 and 5), using similar sound effects between cars from the same company (Lancia Integrale and S4 sound share sounds) AND keeping cars out from the game that were promised at launch (Lancia Stratos and its 'immersive soundscape'). If you could tell I'm a stickler to Lancia cars, and Horizon constantly butchers it.

To give some more context for the motorcross/atv games at least personally no one I talk to about those games ever even touched the races in them. We all just loved goofing around in the open world modes, especially Mx Unleashed

28:50 Always thought that the 2D asphalts were more fun back then, the 3D ones didn't really hit a nice point until 5 or 6 I think, the first one on a smartphone.

I love your longer videos!

I really wish Stuntman was more popular, glad some mad lad is making Stuntman inspired scenarios in BeamNG

Not surprised Porsche Unleashed got a bit nuked on the review scores. Back when it came out, it was... crash central and unplayable. Both due to game bugs and bugs in the operating system, so I can totally get the low score for that, at the time.

18:16 hey RR2 was a marvel of racing game for a phone back in the day, im still trying to get it to run on newer phones.

What's funnier is that IGN gave FH5 a game of the year award 😂

Missed an “8.8” score: Not sure why NO ONE mentions a certain game that was given away with a few hundred thousand xbox consoles. Sega GT 2002 was not epically exciting but it introduced a TON of Xbox kids to simulation racing. It included over 100 cars and not all were standard: see the 1978 Dome Zero… I don’t need it to be included in these lists; I just want to know why it isn’t included while every single lesser game is. Is it too much of a GT knockoff? All I know is that without a free copy of Sega GT 2002 at an impressionable time in my friends’ and my childhood, we might not have become car enthusiasts.

22:39 Is that a Jojo Reference!?!?

midtown madness is crazyyyy that was my childhood

49:08 MCII also had rave music which was really fitting to the game and also to the car culture of then, underground 1/2 should have been taken notes from MCII for the soundtrack

I don't know if you are aware but people complain about sand because it kills all your speed if you go off track, I agree it's a pointless criticism but I just wanted to point it out

If you make a GBA video please include the Choro-Q series. They have a lot of different names like Penny Racers, Gadget Racers and Road Trip so you need to do some research to get them in order, but for me they're sure worth checking out. I also recommend the PS1 and some of the PS2 games.

47:50 if u want try some old classic rally games i recomend so much the wrc evolved and the others on the ps2 developed by Evolution Studios (the motorstorm and driveclub developer)

CHECKERED FLAG WAS SOMETHING HUGE IN THE RACING GENERE

The "Behind the Curtin" of this is simple. "Talk bad about company. Company doesn't give you early access to review the game. And you lose out to competitors."

CMR 2005 is just CMR 04 but upgraded in every possible way. I still really enjoy this one even today

You should do video about top rated racing games on Glitchwave

now I wanna see dustin do a video like this for gameranks if gameranks has

Horizon 5 still has loads of players. But as someone with 800+h in it and owning every car, mostly doing online racing, I do not understand why Metacritic, IGN etc rate this game so high. FH5 was a mess for 2-3 months after release. And there is barely anything to do in the open world. If you dont do PvP, its a super boring game imo. And even as someone who plays it PvP, I'd give it a 8/10 now. It was a 6/10 at release. And the 8/10 is very generous, due to there being no competition in open world racing really at the moment.

Stuntman is a great fun game if you don't take it serious and don't mind replaying things to get them right and look cool 😄

The appearance of Board Game laugh my bottom immediately

Can't spell ignorant without IGN.

16:25 I have a complete copy of the Mint 400 game. It was kinda fun as a kid, haven’t played as an adult.

What you need to understand is this is reviewed by different people. Now, these people should have some gaming history notions, to better put into context the games. Most probably that guy played FH5 as his first racing game and he said wow, this is awesome, for an below average game. Where the fuck is Driver SF. Where is TDU. Where is the GrandPrix series, best F1 sim series ever. I won t expect people knowing NFS 2, or Stunt. Where is Driveclub, ffs.

I can respect that Lynx game for being at the top. I haven't played it myself, but been collecting a lot of Sega Genesis racers lately and some of them are really impressive for the time and still insanely fun. Think my favorites so far are Formula One, Super Monaco GP, and Road Rash II.

Why you don't test split second and motor storm any of the series because all off different to burnout and the skate games all of them are good really good

seeing Wreckfest below Real Racing 2 broke me

45:40 listen man I know V-Rally 4 ain’t going anyone any favors but that’s a little harsh

I think if you will turn off Editor's choice mark, you might see it on the list.

58:11 I think the original Project Cars was really good about this, with you working your way up just like in real life motorsport. You start the campaign in go-karts and your goal is to end up in endurance prototypes