High End 2-way speaker Spirit Wind

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Күн бұрын

Spirit Wind is a DIY speaker project by Jeff Bagby. Read my written reviews with scores at iiwireviews.com/
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00:00 Why DIY?
02:31 Why Spirit Wind?
04:43 Spirit Wind kit/parts
07:32 Cabinets
10:25 Crossover/wires/binding posts
14:35 Frequency response in my room
17:39 Sound impressions
25:50 vs KEF LS50 and R3
29:18 vs Dynaudio Focus 160
30:11 More comparisons
31:26 Final thoughts
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@isaeagle4031
@isaeagle4031 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and review of the Spirit Winds. I was fortunate to know Jeff and hear his original Spirit Winds. He was a great designer and even better friend. His contributions to the DIY community were incredible. I've shared your video with his widow and son.
@perskaaning
@perskaaning 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the very nice rewiew. We are happy to be a part of the project, by supplying the mid-woofers. You do Jeff great honor😊 Per Skaaning - Audiotechnology ApS Denmark
@jungtarcph
@jungtarcph 5 ай бұрын
Too bad Meniscus Audio closed. If anyone is looking for alternatives, with similar drivers, Troels Gravesen has several DIY kits featuring Audiotechnology or Scanspeak drivers.
@DSor1
@DSor1 2 ай бұрын
Does anyone know how we can get access to this design now that Meniscus closed?
@sloboat55
@sloboat55 Жыл бұрын
This is the Best Audiophile review video of the year. Cool runnings
@dajikbatarang1
@dajikbatarang1 Жыл бұрын
You did an incredible job with the cabinet. It’s beautiful.
@stephenclark5218
@stephenclark5218 Жыл бұрын
Is the box price included in the 1900?
@interesting7906
@interesting7906 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenclark5218 Of course, and they throw in a fully furnished living room, too. 🙄
@johan5660
@johan5660 Жыл бұрын
This is the most unique and best from you so far. There's not many reviewers out there that can do what you have done here. You assembled a DIY speaker and telling us how well it out performs REL subwoofer in the bass region..😍 and out performs KEF, Dynaudio speakers 😍😍..wow wow wow thats says something. I will definately put all my efforts in DIY this Spirit Wind. Thank you so much for bringing it to light.
@ian6921
@ian6921 Жыл бұрын
Great speaker review, Srbo. Jeff Bagby was a great designer who made an enormous contribution to the DIY community. Props to Meniscus audio for an exceptional service as well!
@JordanPhegley
@JordanPhegley Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Instead of simply reviewing something you help us experience it with you. What a gift...and what beautiful speakers!
@cruise2023
@cruise2023 Жыл бұрын
Thanks , great to have the Spirit Winds finally reviewed. I thought they would be good and in all it depends on the quality of the materials and your room. I do want to build a pair of monitors but for now I have bought the Troels Gravesen " Revelator 851 " kit which I will build in January, not cheap at over 2,000 eurs but it will be worth it. Troels uses all Jantzen crossover parts, in the tweeter section it uses the Alumen Z cap , higher cost than in the Spirit Winds, The Tweeter is the Scan-speak D3004/660000 again more expensive. I really look forward to building them... Check him out if you haven't already done so, another great designer...Cheers.
@bobb.9917
@bobb.9917 Жыл бұрын
WOW…What an incredible effort on your part to make the very best of a DIY Design! You deserve praise! 👍🏼
@jungtarcph
@jungtarcph Жыл бұрын
I am so happy you built a pair of DIY speakers! And especially from Denmark! I am currently assembling a Scanspeak 2.5 Way (Troels Gravesen) with Jantzen Alumen and Silver X-Overs. Cannot wait! That you mostly listened to the KEF LS50 in the past - which is a top & midrange-focused speaker made me a little worried that your reviews were seen through that "lens". Anyway, very happy that you are sharing the DIY options with the community 🎶🎶
@vladimirjovanovic2803
@vladimirjovanovic2803 Жыл бұрын
Great review and a great build, Srbo. I have been lucky to listen to the Winds in two different systems in two different spaces. Although there were differences that even I could hear between those two systems, the common denominator is the wast soundstage, extraordinarily wide and deep. Great speakers, one of the best I have heard.
@test40323
@test40323 Жыл бұрын
Well done. You have come a long way in your audio journey! :-)
@DearSX
@DearSX Жыл бұрын
Those look great, very thankful that Jeff made his designs public and shared them with the world. I built the Adelphos some 7-8 years ago, still have them, pretty good speakers, about a tie with my Kef LS50 overall I felt.
@darrylbrueckner2812
@darrylbrueckner2812 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I really appreciate the passion and attention to detail. Looking forward to future comparisons with your new, reference speakers!
@jari121
@jari121 Жыл бұрын
It's great that you made them. I have two different pairs of over 50 liter three-way floor standing speakers that are DIY. They are a pleasure to listen to because there is enough precision and authority. According to my information, there are many construction kits sold in various European countries, from which you can choose the one you like the most. Happy listening!
@carlstokes9581
@carlstokes9581 Жыл бұрын
Definitely one of my Best Videos of the Year…Great Job!
@SuperMcgenius
@SuperMcgenius Жыл бұрын
I have made many speakers, this speaker was done so well. This is a 10,000 dollar speaker.
@peterdesmidt8742
@peterdesmidt8742 Жыл бұрын
Great job! I recently used Rubio Monocoat for a speaker project, and I love the results. It's my go-to finish going forward.
@cineaudiophile4465
@cineaudiophile4465 Жыл бұрын
Great video. RIP Jeff Bagby.
@gaetancharbonneau3902
@gaetancharbonneau3902 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video! It is so intresting to see the crossover, the very high quality of the parts and how it relates to the performance of the speakers in all aspects, tonality, soundstage, dynamic impact, etc, etc. Bravo!
@versus023
@versus023 Жыл бұрын
great video, great job on the cabinet. Very thorough review and analysis.
@ChicagoRob2
@ChicagoRob2 Жыл бұрын
Those are beautiful and should sound fantastic. Great job!
@BrZi38501
@BrZi38501 Жыл бұрын
Od mora videa o audio opremi na youtubeu koje sam tijekom godina pogledao, od testova komercijalne opreme do DIY rjesenja, ovo je daleko najbolji uradak koji sam pogledao i svako malo iznova pogledam bez konkretnog cilja ili namjere upustanja u ovako zahtijevan podhvat… sam nacin na koji je sadrzaj iznesen, na strucan i pitak nacin, do emocije kojom je opis prozet… gust je vidjet nekog tko nesebicno djeli svoje iskustvo i iskreno uziva u postignucu. Prekrasan zvucnik i cestitam.
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
Hvala puno na deljenju tako pozitivnog utiska. Jeste pravljeno za dušu pa mi je drago da tako i deluje. Pozdrav!
@allenh.7373
@allenh.7373 Жыл бұрын
I've been very interested in the Sprit Wind speakers and couldn't find a ton of reviews or much information about them. I was completely surprised that you had a whole detailed video about them, the only one on KZfaq!
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Жыл бұрын
THANKS 🤗 for sharing this story and all the details and credits of the contributors and your music 🎼 suggestions 🤗😎💚💚💚
@PhotogPhotog-sk4ip
@PhotogPhotog-sk4ip 7 ай бұрын
Great review, and condolences to Mr. Bagby’s family And those speakers look amazing, I want them
@SuperMcgenius
@SuperMcgenius Жыл бұрын
The angled baffle with very low diffraction plus the high-quality crossover parts makes the world of difference, the reason I think the tweeter is performing so well. Happy holidays, Montreal Canada.
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
Happy holidays to you too from Serbia! 🎄🎄🎄
@fluffkiss18
@fluffkiss18 Жыл бұрын
This is GREAT content! Love it!
@kenr9447
@kenr9447 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding piece, and a great way to start Sunday morning. I use the 5 1/4” Arum Cantus drivers that are used in Bagby’s Continuum design, albeit in a different design and with crossovers a few levels below yours. Mine aren’t going anywhere, and I can imagine how great the Spirit’s must be with the component upgrades and a proven design.
@steven2809
@steven2809 Жыл бұрын
A really interesting story and your fluent English continues to impress! Congratulations on your successful project 👍
@D1N02
@D1N02 Жыл бұрын
Must be very satisfying to successfully complete such a project.
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
It really is.
@lastpixelru
@lastpixelru Жыл бұрын
Great job. Many audiophile enthusiasts should learn from this experience.
@mykolamisyura8107
@mykolamisyura8107 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff! Your build looks great - impossible to tell that it is not a commercial speakers. I have just finished my DIY projects and have very similar experience as yours - VERY satisfied that I have chosen this route. I was brave enough to make DIY preamp (Whayne Coulburne's - PASS Labs - WHAMMY); DIY FirstWatt F6 power amp (from Maestro Nelson Pass) and DIY loudspeakers - Troels Gravesen's Discovery 861 (ScanSpeak's drivers). Speakers and power amp have been finished less than two weeks ago. It was not easy, took me a while - about 4 years from first thoughts and completely no experience. Patience and willing to learn new things helped me a lot. It is difficult to describe how happy I am nowadays. Discovery 861 are great speakers. Pleasant, easy listening with full of details and deep, extremely controlled bass, crispy highs. Can listen for hours and hours, with no fatigue. Obviously, the rest of the system plays very important role, not only the speakers. Goddamn, that system provides so much details... just incredible. I spent about 1k euro for the speakers, but only ordered CNC cut of MDF, from my own drawings (damn, had to learn even AutoCAD basics...). A cheaper version of crossover was chosen, but components are very high quality - Superior Z caps for twitter (most critical place), Standard Z and CrossCaps for the rest. And they sound WONDERFUL. Check out Troel's projects: troelsgravesen - DOT- dk, great guy. So happy to find his projects. Form what I have heard, commercial speakers costs ~10-20% from it's retail price. Imagine what you can do, investing a few thousands $ into DIY speakers from a good designer... but you will get entry-level in high-end speakers if you buy new for that money. You should also consider DIY preamp, amp, DAC and even turntable. Last two are on my TO DO list =)
@amgguy4319
@amgguy4319 Жыл бұрын
Inspiring review. I'm going to do it, even in Walnut finish!
@palmito22
@palmito22 Жыл бұрын
Very good my friend and greetings from Brazil!
@lewtaratua1719
@lewtaratua1719 Жыл бұрын
Wow, they are extremely high-end crossover parts! I’m a DIY guy, a kind of, a sort of, and I’m using Janzen Superior Z-cap. It’s good enough for me, and I have to satisfy with this. Silver Z-cap is a dream. Good for you.
@ChicagoRob2
@ChicagoRob2 Жыл бұрын
I recapped my vintage 1997 B&W Matrix 805s with Jantzen Superior Z caps. They took an already great speaker to a whole new level.
@jarkkokinnunen9963
@jarkkokinnunen9963 Жыл бұрын
I have used Silver-z and i think from what im hearing superior-z is better, if you value smooth listenability. I had to bypass silver-z caps with PIO to get rid of annoying sterile quality from them. But everyone hears differently so your mind may vary..
@lewtaratua1719
@lewtaratua1719 Жыл бұрын
@@jarkkokinnunen9963 I’m using Superior-Z paralleled with HVL (Hovland?) blue to Satori tweeter and it’s clear but not harsh. I wondered what will happen if I replaced to Silver-Z, but maybe I should consider well. Thanks for your experienced information.
@marcellusmilton6296
@marcellusmilton6296 Жыл бұрын
Wow. This video is magnificent. I really enjoy your reviews. Thank you!
@bartnettle
@bartnettle Ай бұрын
Love the flat smooth response; they look great! I want!
@OsvaldoSousaPuco
@OsvaldoSousaPuco Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice video! You're right about the subwoofer. The minimum REL for your speakers is the S/510. By your description of the sound performance, that speaker is like my Dynaudio Heritage Specials - a speaker that you basically cannot point anything bad about it except it's actual size (and price for the Dynaudio's). It takes a marginally big, fast and detailed sub to match it, but once you match you won't take it out. Two even better :)
@strongchallenger2269
@strongchallenger2269 Жыл бұрын
Awesome channel! You provide lots of information and knowledge. Willing to share with others 👍. Unlike some other channels such as Thabhamar, Thomas and Stereo, Jay Iyagi, yada yada yada... They talk nothing except how expensive the gear they are testing. It's like they are so pricey and they must be good. Thank you Srbo.
@rikardekvall3433
@rikardekvall3433 Жыл бұрын
DIY done right, gives SO much back to the music and the pleasure of building them and then say, I build these and they sound awesome! Correct me if you can! No one want to compare….
@howardstever6676
@howardstever6676 Жыл бұрын
Jeff Bagby was the best!
@titan90000
@titan90000 Жыл бұрын
Awesome review as always! I have been playing with the idea on and off with going with DIY speakers. There are some good values in audio DIY out there. I have heard some glowing reviews of various brands and models but they are never as articulate and detailed as yours. I am going to take a deeper look into these and research some local wood workers for the cabs.
@lawchoongseng789
@lawchoongseng789 Жыл бұрын
It’s a very beautiful looking speaker. I have the LS50 with the REL T7X. I can relate to what you describe 👍👍👍👍👍
@leojack987
@leojack987 Жыл бұрын
Excellent and well detailed discussion. thank you.
@maximo90019
@maximo90019 Жыл бұрын
Well done. Excellent project
@markcarrington8565
@markcarrington8565 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. I want a pair of these so much!😅
@bossybill7437
@bossybill7437 Жыл бұрын
Being able to control the expense applied to crossover components, as in, spending big on quality crossover components, can be the most rewarding aspect of DIY'ing. This is an area where commercial manufacturers, inevitable, boost their margins. It would be interesting comparing against an identical build but with 'standard' crossover components. (I'm using Mundof MCap Supreme EVOs and a variety of bypass caps, in my Open Baffle DIYs.)
@alexw890
@alexw890 Жыл бұрын
You ever run into these people who swear parts quality doesn’t matter? Ridiculous.
@berndtwagner189
@berndtwagner189 Жыл бұрын
congratulation to this fine project. I agree quallity parts in the cross over is verry important. I have build famos ARA Kit from SB Accoustics with satori drivers and also upgrates Quallity in the X over. i think i have the same impression of soundquallity as You when listening.
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg Жыл бұрын
Love your works and the review. I need to DYI a speaker too :)
@varunagunawardane4816
@varunagunawardane4816 Жыл бұрын
Great job, all around!
@cameronrector178
@cameronrector178 Жыл бұрын
Those are beautiful!
@Damn_Sam1
@Damn_Sam1 Жыл бұрын
Great job, they look Beautiful with the American walnut!
@grumpyginger7475
@grumpyginger7475 Жыл бұрын
Great review! I have never heard of these diy speakers so it’s really appreciated, as I plan on building speakers in the future. I’d be interested to see all the components you’ve found that pair well with them. I use the Dynaudio Focus XD 200s, and like that darker tone as well. Cheers!
@cineaudiophile4465
@cineaudiophile4465 Жыл бұрын
They should pair well with any component. The beauty of DIY is you can tailor the sound. Jeff usually suggests a few values for resistors/caps to make minor adjustments to tweeter level. The only real limitation for components will be the SPL, so I wouldn't use less than 20W amp.
@mikebassett1663
@mikebassett1663 11 ай бұрын
Very inspiring. I currently vote you as number 1 internet reviewer because you look at things with a technical and musical perspective neither pointless budget nor stupidly expensive. Most reviewers use clickbait constantly running between the latest and imagined best until 2 days later there is something better - they are audiophile bimbos. Your English is much better than you credit yourself with and your word choice is much better than the extravagant meaningless sentences employed by most others. For the moment I will be looking into the following four - Kef L50 meta, Kef R3 meta, Focal Aria 906 and Amphion Argon 3S but I think your build is likely to satisfy my needs better. I ,live in France and it is not easy to find a physical shop. Can you tell me how big the sweet spot is for your Spirit Winds build both vertically and horizontally - they are important to me because I like to be mobile and I think you answered my other questions. If I can find what I want from my 4 auditions I will stop there otherwise I will hunt down the plans for yours!
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews 11 ай бұрын
SW has a very good dispersion and wide sweet spot. I was surprised to find out its better than KEF LS50 that features a dual concentric driver known to be great at that. I belive great Scanspeak tweeter with a small waveguide is helping with that, but also great Jeff's design.
@mikebassett1663
@mikebassett1663 11 ай бұрын
@@iiWiReviews Unfortunately Meniscus has gone out of business so I guess the design has died with the death of Jeff Bagby and the going out of business of Meniscus. Do you rate any other designers that have similar designs?
@WelkySchullin
@WelkySchullin Жыл бұрын
Thx for the video! very interesting. How do you treat the copper (binding posts) to not oxidise?
@zsolthorvath9576
@zsolthorvath9576 Жыл бұрын
Great job!!
@sonusancti
@sonusancti Жыл бұрын
Re tweeter difference, it's the high quality crossover parts that tamed the 2905-9900. Can't go wrong with that, with top quality parts. Congratulations iiWi!
@edverbeek6292
@edverbeek6292 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations!
@joeguckin4641
@joeguckin4641 Жыл бұрын
Hi enjoy your reviews very much ,do you think its worth getting musician pegasus dac for the hegel h190 thank you very much
@uncola6028
@uncola6028 6 ай бұрын
wow great to see a pair of Spirit Winds made after jeff bagby passed away R.I.P. I'm sure they are just about as high end as you can get with those two drivers
@Moonloop76
@Moonloop76 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Very nice video and speakers, indeed. What about the sensitivity of those? Do you think they are power hungry? Thanks
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I don't have a correct info but everything points to ~85 db/W/1m sensitivity. That was the sensitivity of Kairos speakers, and Jeff somewhere mentioned that these two are very similar that way. Regarding power, I do feel that they prefer powerful amps.
@CREWorxMedia
@CREWorxMedia Жыл бұрын
Great review! Thank You. Are there cabinet and crossover plans that are available on the internet that you can share?
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
I can't share them. You can talk to Meniscus Audio and ask them about the plans only.
@bengleason508
@bengleason508 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite IIWI review. How is late night listening on this speaker? What is the lowest volume (decibels) you enjoy listening to these speakers?
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
Low volume listening is decent but not as good as with some speakers with that bass bump I talked about in the video. That's due to our own hearing sensitivity (at lower volumes we notice midrange more, bass and treble less). So very neutral speakers at day-level listening are not going to sound as good as slightly V-shaped ones at low volumes. Loudness button on older amps solved this problem but it's not popular nowadays. 😊
@hdsarma
@hdsarma Жыл бұрын
Nice Review!!!, any plans to review the Chord or Holo Audio DACs, more interested in the Holo Spring as it is said to blur the difference between D/S and R2R DACs and is bit on the affordable side too, comparatively off course 🙂
@menachemsteinberger8505
@menachemsteinberger8505 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this excellent video. It was very helpful in many aspects for me. One that was missing was the comparison to other speakers. I totally agree that comparison to commercial speakers is not in place. Why not compare them to similar price DIY speakers ? for example from CSS audio or GR research...
@olbucky9413
@olbucky9413 Жыл бұрын
Hello Srbo I follow and enjoy all your reviews. I have built many diy speakers over the years starting with transmission lines and folded horns. It’s surprising to many how much effect box design and composition along with crossover parts quality can have on the outcome…even with the same speaker components. I particularly was surprised by the positive effect of wire gauge in air core inductors. Can you please post the source for your copper connectors? Best Regards.
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
Copper connectors and wiring came from VBS Audio: facebook.com/people/VBS-Audio/100057252078271/ It's a small and unique production, but there's usually a waiting time involved since its popularity has risen sharply lately.
@jasonme3557
@jasonme3557 Жыл бұрын
Even though this video was long, I watched every second. I love this design. I have a few pair of speakers and have been considering the DIY. This looks like a winner. I love the cabinet design. I like the fact the BOM is super high quality. I may be doing this soon. Ill watch this again. But quick question, the box was this part of there design or you? I do not recall if you mentioned that part. Anyway keep this up, you are getting way better. Happy Holidays JJ
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Cabinet design inside the project is same in terms of volume and dimensions. We just pimped up the front panel with chamfered edges (not that necessary function-wise since tweeter has a small wawe guide and it is not as sensitive to this tweak as some others... But I like how it looks - it makes it look less blocky in my opinion). Happy holidays to you too! 🎄
@tallpaull9367
@tallpaull9367 Жыл бұрын
very cool, love your speakers. Next, you have to try dedicated 10awg wire circuits to each component. or at minimum 1x 10awg circuit for the amp, 1x 10awg circuit for the rest. It made a big difference in my system!
@peterlarkin762
@peterlarkin762 Жыл бұрын
Do you refer to the AC mains power cable wiring, or the internal speaker wiring of amplifier?
@tallpaull9367
@tallpaull9367 Жыл бұрын
@@peterlarkin762 AC wiring
@englishsteve1465
@englishsteve1465 Жыл бұрын
Love that you have used threaded inserts to mount the drivers instead of the usual thing of just screws into the wood, which is found on even high end designs and annoys me whenever I see it. The cost of a few threaded inserts cannot be much and it stops any possibility of chewing up the wood which is all too easy with just plain screws. That walnut veneer is very nice too, they look classy.
@gino3286
@gino3286 Жыл бұрын
Hi very interesting comment I would like to do the same on my speakers that have screws now The wood is mdf Speakers are old Musical Fidelity MC2 with newer woofers from Seas Do you think that there could be also a little improvement in sound? I think that a better connection with the baffle can be a good thing Kind regards Gino
@CC-xu2yz
@CC-xu2yz Жыл бұрын
@@gino3286 Doubtful that there will be any difference in sound.
@gino3286
@gino3286 Жыл бұрын
@@CC-xu2yz Hi thank you very much for the kind advice The cabinet looks made out of chipboard I am thinking to rebuild it from MDF The tweeters look very nice Kind regards, gino
@Mestre_tainha
@Mestre_tainha Жыл бұрын
I would love to know how these compare with the musician knight 1 regarding sound quality.
@jdd1811
@jdd1811 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to list the components used for the crossover and speaker taps so I could reproduce what you have built? I see they offer upgraded caps but not to the level you have assembled. BTW thank you, excellent video! Seems the MoFi SourcePoint 10 maybe inspired from these.
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
As mentioned in the video, I can't list the exact crossover values since that's a MeniscusAudio project. Still, you can see what I used in the video from 10:25 - Jantzen Silver-Z caps, Jantzen coils, Mills resistor as shunt, and PathAudio resistor in line with a tweeter. VBS Audio wires and binding posts (facebook.com/people/VBS-Audio/100057252078271/). I link only the last one because it is a small handmade stuff from Serbia, the rest is easily found online.
@mrenlightened
@mrenlightened Жыл бұрын
Looks similar to the Musician Audio Knight 1 Loudspeaker. Wondering if they are the same design. Sonically, it sounds similar to the cheaper CSS 1TDX kit that I have in my system.
@Mestre_tainha
@Mestre_tainha Жыл бұрын
Noticed that too. Would be nice to have a comparison regarding sound quality.
@GavinHodgson
@GavinHodgson Жыл бұрын
Great review! I feel sad that I sold my drivers now.
@jianboo
@jianboo Жыл бұрын
Awesome! This is a new territory for you my friend. Making your own speakers are great and they have some personal attachment as well. But I wonder will these be your main / primary speakers for a substantial amount of time? I guess, only time can tell.
@peterlarkin762
@peterlarkin762 Жыл бұрын
For me, I had about €1000 to spend on speakers last year. It just wasn't enough budget for really good DIY speakers, I couldn't find good value kits in Europe. I slightly regret not saving up more money and hope to build these in the future. However my wharfedale Evo 4.3s that I got cheap aren't too bad really. P.S Jantzen make probably the best cost to quality ratio components available. Apart from capacitors, I got some of their large binding posts recently for my DIY amplifier. They cost €6 each, top quality, look like they came from a premium luxury amp.
@daviddarley4749
@daviddarley4749 Жыл бұрын
Great video, the cabinets look similar shape to new mofi Andrew Jones design speakers
@deadline7610
@deadline7610 Жыл бұрын
OMG..That's the way to usher in the new year. 👍👍 You mentioned in the review that you added some -------- filing inside ? I couldn't hear it. Thanks in advance
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
Yes, i used Mundorf Angel Hair filling.
@jairobloem2068
@jairobloem2068 Жыл бұрын
Great review. What is the minimum distance, according to you, to the front wall to still have a wide and deep soundstage?
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I've never pushed them closer to the wall than 60 cm (back side of the speaker) because that's where I slowly notice my soundstage depth is starting to compress. But it is still good in that spot. My friend keeps his pair a bit closer, maybe 50 cm or so, and they still sound very spacious, width and height don't suffer at all, and tones also feel three-dimensional but simply more in line with speakers, without that "bowling alley" depth effect that you can get if you pull them out in the room. So I find that very good. Mine are usually at ~80 cm, which gives ~115 cm from the front drivers and that's far enough to create a pretty impressive depth that makes tracks that are recorded that way sound detached from the speakers and in some virtual space behind them.
@SilmarilS79
@SilmarilS79 Жыл бұрын
I made a 300$/pair bookshelf and they really play outside of their league... With a -3dB at 35hz, they are very good without a subwoofer.
@adnanwani5063
@adnanwani5063 Жыл бұрын
Great job with this project. I recently got plans from Meniscus Audio and like you I'm also sourcing the drivers from Europe to save on shipping costs. i came accross different versions of the AT18H5217 driver (8, 6 and 4 ohm). Which one did you use in your project or does not matter? the plans dont mention anything about it. Thanks
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
8 and 6 Ohm version should be the same (depending on how store call them... It's an 8 Ohm nominally but measures 6.2 or something like that in reality). Any way, you need that one in the project - 6 Ohm that some stores will call 8.
@frederf69
@frederf69 Жыл бұрын
Try the KC62; great little sub 👍👍 good review, thanks
@tomazgaber3798
@tomazgaber3798 Жыл бұрын
Vrlo lepo umjetnicko delo, da bi ih samo slisao!!! Shapo.
@Doughny
@Doughny Жыл бұрын
What an amazing review! I'm also in the market for a new speaker, and now I'm considering making my own. Seems a tiny bit scary though, do you think anyone could do it with enough patience and research? I don't have friends like you that are into DIY speakers.
@harrisedgar
@harrisedgar 6 ай бұрын
Meniscus Audio has closed, would you share the plans so I can give it a try? And links for (buying the parts)
@Maxiimko1989
@Maxiimko1989 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video and speakers🙏 I am still under the impression that speakers fill the room better with subwoofer, if not REL would you try pairing it with any other woofer? Cause they can't dive under 40hz, can they?
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
Bigger woofer with more extension of course... It's just that T5X can't go much low, it falls off around 35Hz. That's roughly the same depth that these speakers do by themselves. Another problem is sheer speed and resolution of AudioTechnology drivers... To match them, woofer has to be faster and more explosive than T5x. So maybe someday I decide to try a much more capable subwoofer (that can go down lower and with greater speed)... But that's not in my short term plans.
@Maxiimko1989
@Maxiimko1989 Жыл бұрын
@@iiWiReviews Have you considered other DIY speakers before choosing this one? I am thinking of buying CSS DT-X...also on the side note I personally think RAAL tweeter is the purest I have heard among many, I know GR research have their NX monitor with ribon tweeter
@funkyfurballs1078
@funkyfurballs1078 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Please try to review more speakers! "Spirit Wind" sound like a Totem name!
@TonyKindred-pd8kw
@TonyKindred-pd8kw 7 ай бұрын
Perhaps the time has come for this particular conversation to start with the MiniDSP Flex. Certainly it's an attractive idea and you don't have to trust some else's design. Lot to learn though.
@cybergod77
@cybergod77 Жыл бұрын
looks beautiful...wished these DIY companies can offer a finished option
@flemminghermansen2032
@flemminghermansen2032 Жыл бұрын
If you do not know the cabinet is directly taken from the Avalon speakers, with the way the front is cut. Nothing wrong with that, but just Think the credit shall go where Jeff obviously have been inspired from. Have 2 models of Them myself. The old model Arcus and one from the new Line, the Idea. Both excellent speakers with no obvious faults. Very revealing and no fatigue whatsoever🙌🤗 Looks nice with the cabinetwork🙌
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
This shape is used to some extent with several speaker brands because it's proven that it brings acoustic benefits - less diffraction, better soundstaging and the feeling that boxes themselves disappear from the sound. Only question really is why more manufacturers don't do it (this or round edges).
@flemminghermansen2032
@flemminghermansen2032 Жыл бұрын
Yes, there are more and more using it. But this is so close to Avalon as its not just a coincidence, and an Avalon trademark is excactly there freedom from boxiness and imaging. Some Call Them an electrostat in a box😊 But still nothing wrong with anyone being inspired to directly copy a good concept🙌
@louisestrada9991
@louisestrada9991 Жыл бұрын
Very well presented video! I, myself have relied on DIY speaker building projects to get the most "bang for your buck"! I have built 7 speaker pairs using the best components (Dynaudio, Scanspeak, Accuton, Mundorf (Silver/Oil) Caps, Hoviland Caps, etc.) to achieve the highest sound quality. This is the best way to pay for the tools and components to ensure the fun and $$ to build for yourself the BEST audio speakers possible! My questions to you: 1.) Did you have to "break in" your new speakers to delvelope its neutral response? 2.) And, if you did, how many hrs. did you allow? 3.) How important is it to use a quality amp, or can a vintage amp do (marantz, Luxman, or even a Denon 7:1 surround sound integrated receiver? Thank you for your time.
@OscarHernandez-ym4hx
@OscarHernandez-ym4hx Ай бұрын
Sorry. Wanted to find out the brand of crossover component you mentioned. Yinseng?? Thanks.
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Ай бұрын
Jantzen silver z-cap capacitors and coils (in wax) were used. There are also Path Audio and Mills resistors.
@pavlo687
@pavlo687 3 ай бұрын
Given that Meniscus has closed down here in the US not long after you posted this video, do you know how I can get access to the cabinet dimensions and design, and also the crossover design? Seems that if I knew who to contact, I could make a contribution to the family, and get a copy. Have you communicated at all with Seth Horton who worked with Jeff on this design?
@SSUTR
@SSUTR Жыл бұрын
Sorry for keeping you busy with such details, what does Dacron Panel helps for?
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
It's Acoustics padding and it serves to virtually increase the volume of the cabinet that driver sees. There's usually a sweet spot of how much to use because overusing it can be counter productive.
@justasimplefox
@justasimplefox Жыл бұрын
Great review, you can take a look at YB Audio, based in Poland they offer similar technology and prices 👍
@cosmicdebris7812
@cosmicdebris7812 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@cosmicdebris7812
@cosmicdebris7812 Жыл бұрын
Great video and a wonderful tribute to Jeff Bagby and his skills. He was a fine man and is greatly missed.
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support! 👍
@artur_jurt
@artur_jurt Жыл бұрын
I wonder how good this speakers are compared to Dynaudio Contour 20i. Excellent review!
@fuckugimmeausername
@fuckugimmeausername Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this amazing review. I see that meniscus provided you the dimensions for you to source your own cabinet. Is there an option to buy the cabinet online?
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
Not that I know of. You would have to arrange that in a local woodwork shop.
@fuckugimmeausername
@fuckugimmeausername Жыл бұрын
@@iiWiReviews Thank you! Are there instructions on how to install the dampening material which can be provided to the woodworker? Or do you install the dampening material yourself?
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
Jeff didn't put any dumping materials on the cabinet walls, we added that on our own at home (and made a bit bigger volume cabinets to account for it). But he did use dacron filling and specified how much and where to put it. That one is easily done yourself.
@pashasolidni9493
@pashasolidni9493 Жыл бұрын
Pozdrav! Sve čestitke na kanalu, prava rijetkost na našim prostorima! Kako je moguće da su dijelovi koštali oko 2000 e kada na stranici set bez kabineta kosta 2000? Da li moguća Vaša pomoć da se napravi ovakav zvucnik?
@iiWiReviews
@iiWiReviews Жыл бұрын
Cene ovih drajvera su u evropi osetno jeftinije. AudioTechnology driver smo naručili direktno od proizvođač... Prodaji i male količine, nije problem. Poznanik mi je rekao da su skočile malo cene drajvera oba sada. Za kabinete smo takođe imali relativno "drugarsku cenu". Jentzen delovi su uzimani u Mars Audio u Sloveniji, drugi sitni delovi na HiFiColective, itd.
@idigbebop
@idigbebop 6 ай бұрын
Great review and outcome for your diy project build. Your channel has a very interesting collection of equipment and intelligent reviews. You have a great talent for explaining sound. You have also found opportunity; Build Spirit Wing design quality speakers. Start a business, employ your fellow Serbs. God speed. Cheers from the US.
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