If one considers power to be a numbers game, Churchill has a limited point, but Ike could not be Alexander, and use his power as he pleased. His job was Berlin, and even there politics was a constraint, as Washington decided to allow the Red Army to do that. 9:46

I agree

This is definitely the best WW2 film that doesn't show any of the actual fighting. Darkest Hour with Gary Oldman as Churchill is also another really film in the same vein.

I may be 11 years late, but someone hasn't a clue of a little phrase: "Operation Barbarossa"

@@GarioTheRock greetings friend I hope you are well during these crazy times we are in. When wrote my response eleven years ago I was only thinking about Ike and what he must have felt or had been thinking that entire time before the big day. I did not mean to offend by leaving out: Operation Barbarossa. Personally, for me, one of the best facts to remember is that The Finnish army also took part in the invasion. They supplied 17 divisions and 2 brigades. Following the Soviet invasion of Finland earlier in the war, they were eager for revenge. the list can go on and on and never end. I didn't mean to hide away or sound crazy thank you and be safe

@@hanno21664 Ah! A response! By golly, I thought the odds of a response to be genuinely nill 😭

@@hanno21664 You're all good brother, I merely meant to supply perhaps formerly less acknowledged fronts (many people still view the scale of the Eastern front as dismissable due to their lack of knowledge on the subject, I've formatted my reply, henceforth, in a mockish way merely due to the commonness of this occurrence, which I do now regret). I appreciate your knowledge on the subject, your wisdom in your approach, and respect, you have mine! My best to you and yours, and thank you, you stay safe as well! People like you make me momentarily think that the internet perhaps may not be a detriment to our species, but then the masses seem to prove me wrong, nonetheless, have a lovely rest of your day! (My mind is a mess having been in this non-existent planemeld so long, so pardon my messiness 😅)

GarioTheRock Completely different operations. Normandy was a sea invasion. Barbarossa didn't involve 7,000 sea vessels. Normandy was unique.

Ike was perfect for that job. His administrative skills and ability to deal with egos was perfect.

Eisenhower was a Libra(Oct 14) .Libras love harmony which gave him the ability to balance the egos of allied leaders and military.He was also as you stated an excellent administrator.

Its a pile of rubbish.

​@@thevillaaston7811powerful and in-depth counter, well done

@@derrickstorm6976 Its a pile of US chauvinistic rubbish. The idea that Eisenhower was some sort of decisive military leader seems to have little evidence to support it. He had zero personal combat experience to set his decisions against. He had not even seen a dead body until April 1943. He seems to have a conciliator, a politician in a soldier's uniform sent in to chair meetings. As soon as he took over as land forces commander in September 1944, the whole thing all but fell apart. Montgomery was never a contender for Supreme Commander, and why show Churchill and Eisenhower discussing possible candidates for the job? The decision was already made, in the latter part of 1943. The portrayal of Montgomery is the usual Hollywood cliché stuff. Montgomery was easily the scruffiest of the allied leaders. Opinion of those that were there has it that Montgomery took little notice in the appearance of his men, his only interest being in the state of their weapons. The idea that Montgomery did not care about what his troops thought of him is absurd. MONTY MASTER OF THE BATTLEFIELD 1942-44 NIGEL HAMILTON HAMISH HAMILTON LONDON 1983 P70 Perhaps no one at Eighth Army HQ was as aware of the importance of morale as the editor of Eighth Army's two newspapers-the daily Eighth Army News and the weekly Crusader-Captain Warwick Charlton. Charlton had served in this capacity since the formation of Eighth Army in 1941. I'm aware of the faults he [Monty] had, but the army he took over had no morale-there was very little left. It didn't trust its generals-the most popular general in the Eighth Army was probably Rommel! There had been occasions before Monty came of guns failing to fire-that happened. The British soldiers respected the Germans-and Rommel played up to that: you know, when he said: 'You fought like lions and were led by goats' -all that sort of stuff. The British soldiers admired the Russians and they admired Rommel. Until Monty came. There was this extraordinary little man whom nobody knew anything about, really. And what he did was a sort of Wesleyan thing-in my view. It was a revival thing-to revive their spirits, revive their minds. . . . What he did-he did something that doesn't appear in the military books. You know, when you think about it, war isn't about battles, it is to do with men's minds-more than ever. Monty inherited some highly intelligent people-but intellectually, if they were honest, they could see no future: it was up and down the desert. Until this man came and got through to their minds. The first thing he did was to preach a sermon, about victory and success. And with this trick of repetition-he had quite a small vocabulary really. But nevertheless he knew where he was going and what he wanted to do. And he preached at us; and people felt impelled to go out and carry this message, you know. All the great revolutionary leaders of history had understood the importance of the word, the gospel, Charlton felt: and it was in this sense that Monty was a 'revolutionary' general. This was what was new. It's all very well people talking afterwards about the guns and the ammunition-but what Monty created was a revolutionary army.¹ ¹ Warwick Charlton, interview of 31.3.83. WINSTON S CHURCHILL. THE SECOND WORLD WAR. CASSELL & CO LTD REVISED EDITION 1951. VOLUME IV THE HINGE OF FATE. P464 ‘I saw a great many soldiers that day, who greeted me with grins and cheers. I inspected my own regiment, the 4th Hussars, or as many of them as they dared to bring together - perhaps fifty or sixty - near the field cemetery, in which a number of their comrades had been buried. All this was moving, but with it all there grew a sense of the reviving ardour of the Army. Everybody said what a change there was since Montgomery had taken command. I could feel the truth of this with joy and comfort.’ ‘Even Eisenhower with all his engaging ease could never stir American troops to the rapture with which Monty was welcomed by his’ US General Omar Bradley.

great comment . it's a remarkable performance from tom ,the best i've seen him do. tom must have also been under a great deal of pressure just to play such a monumental character and do him justice , in this historical momentous time .i find it incredibly sobering just to get a glimpse of the time that tom brings to us .i wonder if he found the presidency a walk in the park after this . i hope the weather man got a gong after the war ,he bloody deserved it .

@@flatoutt1 Thank you friend. I only think that being the commander of SHAEF, Ike barely got any sleep at all for days. IF he did get any sleep was for a few hours at a time. The movie, clearly shows always woken up with the slightest report. No matter what it is just unreal to think, he and all of them went through. take care friend

I doubt he wrote it.

1000 percent agree

Definitely. Hard to portray someone who was not “exciting” and yet still bring emotion and personality to the role. I totally believed him as General Eisenhower .

impressive acting with Patton, both moved invoking "soldier to soldier" with Selleck stressing

Yes I too believe he is in that chair acting

A production like this is why I have always preferred nonfiction. The sacrifice by so many for such a cause, cannot be overstated. For this reason, I believe, the actors are emotionally compelled to deliver their best!

Yeah . I can tell you are American

Eisenhower might have said it but since he was just a soldier and not a politician it would have been so much hot air.

A great player just is interested in his own performance, where a great coach is interested in the entire team and their performance. That’s the reason a supreme leader is the only logical intelligent choice.

As is the actor who plays Churchill. Great job.

Montgomery had far more charisma than shown here. He was a far better orator.

The 3rd volume of Forrest C. Pogue's biography of George C. Marshall helps one understand just how important and difficult that job was. So do some of the videos on the KZfaq of the George C. Marshall Foundation.

Sellick said the hardest part was getting used to Camel Regulars especially since he's a non-smoker.

@@geo_ashburn I would say the hardest thing for him was shaving off his mustache. He probably would shave in the morning and by lunch time it would be already half way grown back. 😋

moving drama

Are you on FB.? I uploaded the Whole movie there

Are you on FB.? I uploaded the Whole movie there

But the dialogue is rubbish.

Hawaiian80882 And for good reason

@@verborgenewahrheit1594 his comment was posted in 2014. must be talking about the globalist president during that period, not the one that is trying to preserve what the great generation afforded us in spilled gallons of blood. folks that werent afraid to get off the boat. now days were soo afraid, we wear mask, to afraid to work etc etc

@@baerhomburg6447 So true. Everyone hiding behind a mask at home. Freedom lost through ignorance and fear.

To be fair, his presidency was utterly corrupt.

@@baerhomburg6447 cognitive dissonance at it's finest regarding an utterly corrupt administration of the 45th POTUS because I don't speak in code. You wouldn't know a "globalist" from the Boston Globe just another silly catchphrase to hide your bigotry. You get these cute ctatchy terms and run with them as if the idiots teaching you that nonsense were experts in anything other than being grifters. No discernible evidence of critical thinking but you demonstrate plenty of hubris.

So did the Americans and the Canadians. Everyone underestimated the bocage. It's easy to disrespect Montgomery for Caen, but keep in mind he was the one dealing with the Germans' most elite armor and infantry. He was the one who had to face the Jagdpanthers and Tigers and Panthers. If you want a better criticism of Monty there's always Market Garden, but keep in mind this movie needs an antagonist, so it's eyerollingly picking Monty as the foe you root against.

@Nomad Vagabond no he's still working on capturing Messina ¬.¬

Probably over exaggerated, as usual. Roughly the same number of German casualties in Normandy as Bagration, and twice as many German tanks lost in Normandy. No doubt the Soviets claimed they won the war alone.

Wasn't he the main force behind Gallipoli?

@@johnmcmanus2447 Churchill didnt fight there though. He did however on the failure of the operation go to serve as a colonel with the Royal Scots Fusiliers on the Western front.

@@davidmason7765 i meant the driving force behind it taking place. Could've worded it better

huh? Market Garden cost 17,000 casualties Of which the majority where Captured or Wounded. It also wasn't a disaster, with the British and Canadians threatening the northern flank it took vast areas of territory to the south and North of the advance without even having to fight in those areas, it pushed the Germans almost to the Rhine in a single operation and advanced 100 miles in 3 days, something Pattern for example would never manage, the only real issue with Market Garden was it didn't achieve it's ultimate objective and it's a failure on those grounds but it certainly wasn't a disaster especially for a plan which involved perhaps as many as 90,000 men planned in a week.

Not only that, but the Somme diaster was in every British mothers mind To lose your son after losing all of your brothers? Under a foreign commander as well ? Churchill may well have had a problem with that notion

@Morgan W Rees not really since Spitfires & Hurricanes were made in Britain. Any supplies we got from overseas was protected by Royal Navy.

@Morgan W Rees US didnt so any protecting or fighting. It's all well sending supplies but fighting to protect it was done by Royal Navy.

9000 Americans crossed border into Canada to join Rcaf so how many of the canadians in the raf were actually american

no patton was not mentioned. in this movie , the way Ike had to deal with that pain in the but degaulle is an example i use or try to follow when i have to deal with difficult people at work

I doubt Ike 'juggled' FDR much, except in his mind.

Patton was too childish to be considered and hadn't achieved much by then. He was fired for hitting sick soldiers in Sicily and that kind of personality would never have been in the running.

Lee Majors was set to have the Jon Voight role in "Midnight Cowboy" . Damn if the ABC Television Network decided to give " The Big Valley" TV series another season and not let him out of his contract . Majors thought the series had been cancelled .He's beyond disappointed till' this day over that .

The version with Robert Duvall is like a cartoon or a comic book. This is not to be critical of him as he is a fine actor.

General Marshall might be important to an American view of the war, but to others, he showed poor judgement in matters of allied strategy.

Ya just gonna ignore how they took some guns on d-day and created the textbook way to take a fixed position in the process?

Romania declared war on the United States on December 12, 1941. I guess it seemed like a good idea at the time.

It was difficult to sell the war to the American public as a "fight for freedom" while Britain and France still maintained their colonial empires.

If you only knew the stress that they would they were under oh, you would smoke too LOL. Ordering young men to go die that's a lot of weight on somebody's mind. Failure wasn't an option against Hitler

Four DFC's, LOL. Go Army [Air Forces].