Ike gives Patton a reprimand

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Greg van Dyk

Greg van Dyk

15 жыл бұрын

April 1944, George S Patton's participation in D-Day hangs in the balance after this reprimand from the Supreme Allied Commander, Dwight D Eisenhower.
From the movie Ike: Countdown to D-Day, filmed in NZ

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@hrs1414
@hrs1414 4 жыл бұрын
The "God damn it, George. Shut up!" Always gets to me for some reason. Such great and simple delivery
@markseslstorytellerchannel3418
@markseslstorytellerchannel3418 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the best line Selleck ever delivered...because it was perfect.
@chandlerwalrath9347
@chandlerwalrath9347 Жыл бұрын
He wasn't wrong about the communism war lmfao.
@ugheieiemmmfmfmff
@ugheieiemmmfmfmff Жыл бұрын
@@chandlerwalrath9347 ??? Warsaw Pact was super authoritarian and busted worker unions and socialist cooperative groups
@samiam1254
@samiam1254 Жыл бұрын
Looking back on it, I think George was right about what was gonna happen in the future (our present). Maybe that's why they killed him.
@ugheieiemmmfmfmff
@ugheieiemmmfmfmff Жыл бұрын
@@samiam1254 Who is "they" ?
@tylerbushong3452
@tylerbushong3452 Жыл бұрын
All wise men fear three things: 1. The sea in a storm. 2. The night with no moon. 3. The anger of a gentle man.
@MaloPiloto
@MaloPiloto Жыл бұрын
Indeed well said!
@tylerbushong3452
@tylerbushong3452 Жыл бұрын
@@MaloPiloto thank you.
@Alexthemeh4214
@Alexthemeh4214 3 ай бұрын
Kingkiller?
@KarlPHorse
@KarlPHorse Жыл бұрын
We needed both types of men to win the war. We needed a grizzled, hardened, combat commander who understood the realities of war. And we needed a brilliant logistician and more kindhearted man to keep the other in balance. Ike and Patton filled those rolls perfectly. The brains and the brawn. I mean, all due respect to Ike. He did trade shots with Mexican rebels a few times from what I have read and didn't flinch. So if he were sent to France, I am sure he would have been every bit the combat man that his piers were. But his main strength was in organization and tempering his more bull-headed generals. Two absolute legends. Two heroes. I just hope that despite their differences they learned to appreciate each other by the end of it all.
@garyhughes2446
@garyhughes2446 10 ай бұрын
Whenever IKE needed a miracle he would usually turn to general Patton for it and more often than not get it.
@whutdatytopsy9651
@whutdatytopsy9651 10 ай бұрын
you need a woman for the job!
@shooter7a
@shooter7a 10 ай бұрын
We would have been just fine without Patton. Not so with Ike, and especially Marshall...
@cronistamundano8189
@cronistamundano8189 10 ай бұрын
Ike was not top of his class in military school, was not the first in line for being the supreme commander but FDR knew he would be a stern Marshall. He could demand discipline, earn respect from politicians in every allied and occupied country and was very savvy diplomatically and administratively, and could handle the immense job he had in organizing the whole western offensive. Patton was a fine field commander and tactician and brave as hell, a real soldier. But Ike was indispensable.
@shooter7a
@shooter7a 10 ай бұрын
​@@cronistamundano8189 Patton was a tool. Ike and Marshall decided how the tool would be used.
@philipnewman8366
@philipnewman8366 3 жыл бұрын
“Communism is for next war” Patton was spot on there.
@melquizedec
@melquizedec 3 жыл бұрын
A war that never deployed directly.
@brodieandshoot3681
@brodieandshoot3681 3 жыл бұрын
@@melquizedec well vietnam, korea, Afghanistan, cuba. tiny based wars fighting communism. Not usa v ussr in a nuclear war.
@michaelhunting2868
@michaelhunting2868 3 жыл бұрын
Even Japan fears the soviet union especially after the second that's why surrendered communist are atheists they would have destroyed anything to do with religion in Japan including the emperor Patton was right pluss eisenhower was looking into politics
@78.BANDIT
@78.BANDIT 3 жыл бұрын
The ENEMY OF MY ENEMY.
@rangergxi
@rangergxi 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhunting2868 Eisenhower was right. A racial war against the USSR across a starving Europe would have caused communism to spread like wildfire.
@agone181
@agone181 5 жыл бұрын
The "Goddamn it, George." gets me every time.
@Kelly14UK
@Kelly14UK 5 жыл бұрын
"Shut UP" LOL
@ces4399
@ces4399 4 жыл бұрын
Better delivered when Karl Malden (who playedGeneral Bradley) said that to George C. Scott when he played Patton.
@JD-od6jh
@JD-od6jh 4 жыл бұрын
It just feels so genuine especially the 'Shut up!' 😂
@fredwright5954
@fredwright5954 3 жыл бұрын
@Sabrina Dugan crony capitalism...now, get me a sammich
@jacobwallace4967
@jacobwallace4967 2 жыл бұрын
Ike said GD a lot lol. Even as President
@edwardfrench9368
@edwardfrench9368 6 жыл бұрын
"Goddamnit George, shut up." You can definitely hear a lot of history between them with just those four little words.
@theresabowers5291
@theresabowers5291 4 жыл бұрын
This is a terrific war movie, a war movie about what happened behind the front. And this is without a doubt the best performance in Tom Selek's career.
@lwmson
@lwmson 2 жыл бұрын
No doubt. I think this was his breakout role, in which he showed that he was more than a sex symbol, but quite a fine actor.
@villageblunder4787
@villageblunder4787 2 жыл бұрын
Possibly but I do like him in Paradise
@UNIT294
@UNIT294 Жыл бұрын
One of his best, that's for sure.
@harryc1971
@harryc1971 Жыл бұрын
Never got enough heavy dramatic roles before he became famous for Magnum PI which has shaddowed him ever since - great show but would understand if he resented it as wll a bit hence the Jessie Stone movies he does occasionally. If he was emerging today he would have been a great choice for Jack Reacher?
@robertanderson6929
@robertanderson6929 Жыл бұрын
Everyone is going to have their own opinion on which movie was his best. It's hard to argue with those who would say, _Monty Walsh_ is at the top of their list. 😀
@captain0080
@captain0080 3 жыл бұрын
Little did Ike know that Joe already considered them the enemy.
@gregford2103
@gregford2103 3 жыл бұрын
Ike didn't trust the Russians, either. However, the one thing the US and its allies could afford was having the Soviet Union sign a separate peace treaty with the Germans, similar to what they did in WWI, which would have allowed the Germans to move troops from the Eastern Front westward to bulk up their defenses. That's why he was sensitive, maybe oversensitive, to any comments like ones Patton often made.
@captain0080
@captain0080 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregford2103 i think it was the other way around with Joe worried the germans would sue for peace with the americans and brits and the western allies being too naive to see beyond their noses when it came to comunism and the violence it would continue to ignite worldwide. Anyway history is history and if it wasnt for the events of the of pre and postwar i wouldnt have been born, i will continue to live a decent life for those who saw theirs cut short.
@gregford2103
@gregford2103 3 жыл бұрын
@@captain0080 There was incredible distrust on both sides. The simple fact is the British, US, Russian alliance was a fragile one, but it held together long enough to defeat Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. The world is a better place because the Allies prevailed.
@tinafoster8665
@tinafoster8665 3 жыл бұрын
Oh right! Joe Stalin could have run his army all the way to Gibraltar if he would have wanted to, and kicked off ANY American British or French army. The fact he didn't says a lot that people like you apparently can't hear. The reason for the Cold war was simply American nuclear development, and their running nuclear bombsbring up to Soviet borders with bombers and later with missiles and submarines. And when America reneged on every single deal they made with the Russians for post-war development and such,the American financial class effectively made enemies of the Russians into the foreseeable future. This was to as they said contain communism, and also to provide unending trillions of dollars into the development of these idiotic weapons. The Soviet Union is gone now but Russia is still an enemy, and China stands out now to the Pentagon for reduction. Like Patton these people will never be out of wars because they don't yet possess everything. And to say that they are psychotic is very valid imo
@mazariamonti
@mazariamonti 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn't really wrong to.
@Boxghost102
@Boxghost102 4 жыл бұрын
Ike wasn't a battlefield general, but he might be the best organizer/logistical/overall commander to ever live.
@RobTheNotary
@RobTheNotary 4 жыл бұрын
Clerk
@josephhaas7413
@josephhaas7413 4 жыл бұрын
Ike is a great case-in-point of how it’s not the best guy that should take the lead, but the right one. Ike could manage effectively all the megalomaniacs among his colleagues
@tinafoster8665
@tinafoster8665 4 жыл бұрын
Finest damm clerk general MacArthur ever had lol
@Akron162
@Akron162 4 жыл бұрын
@@tinafoster8665 MacArthur was a self serving, egomaniacal, borderline insane prick.
@dahaka_scares_me909
@dahaka_scares_me909 4 жыл бұрын
@@tinafoster8665 Funny for a guy who lost Philippines and Korea to make fun of IKE.
@irgski
@irgski 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, George C. Scott’s Patton was and always will be the best interpretation.
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 4 жыл бұрын
Don't have to be sorry about anything, any actor would love to play him regardless of your feelings
@MyLateralThawts
@MyLateralThawts 4 жыл бұрын
Scott played Patton the way Patton himself would have wanted himself to be portrayed. But mark my words, there’s going to be some smart kid who will re-dub Patton’s dialogue with a computerized re-creation of his actual voice and it’s going to shock everyone. For what its worth, McRaney is oddly closer in voice to the real Patton.
@russhaper1705
@russhaper1705 3 жыл бұрын
The movie wasn’t about Patton. But yes he did.
@Ladco77
@Ladco77 3 жыл бұрын
What's really funny is how different Patton sounded than George C. Scott. You expect to hear Scott's loud, gravely voice and instead you hear a high pitched, soft voice from Old Blood & Guts himself.
@albertoamoruso7711
@albertoamoruso7711 3 жыл бұрын
This version is more accurate to the actual Patton tho
@DarthTrader707
@DarthTrader707 2 жыл бұрын
This is such an underrated movie. A war movie without a single battle....without a single shot. But, it showed the real drama of the event. From the butting of heads of the generals with different opinions that Ike had to manage, to the suffocating pressure Ike felt to get it right, and, most interesting of all (and almost completely unknown), the unbelievable importance of getting the weather forecast right, and the role Stagg played. Stagg and his people managed to peg the forecast for the day exactly right....when even now, with all the radar and tools the weather still ends up confounding meteorologists. Almost as much as all the combined tactics of Fortitude combined, it was the Allies detecting the brief lull, when the Germans did not (and thus felt an invasion would be impossible) that created such surprise on D-Day. Rommel was so convinced the lousy weather would mean no invasion, that he actually left Germany and went home to visit his family.
@deanfirnatine7814
@deanfirnatine7814 2 жыл бұрын
Ike was also a underrated and underappreciated President, America's economic golden age was under his leadership.
@wanderingnomad1
@wanderingnomad1 Жыл бұрын
What’s the name of the movie? Thanks.
@DarthTrader707
@DarthTrader707 Жыл бұрын
@@wanderingnomad1 Ike: Countdown to D-Day.
@jamessimms415
@jamessimms415 Жыл бұрын
The Allies had captured most of the German Weather Stations & trawler ships that could have sent back the information
@scottdunkirk8198
@scottdunkirk8198 Жыл бұрын
Ike should have seen what Stalin was doing
@Destinychanged
@Destinychanged 2 жыл бұрын
“Slapping a shell shocked soldier is never permissible!!!” You’re damned right
@nicoangel690
@nicoangel690 2 жыл бұрын
Live in War....then tell Me that
@parusol235
@parusol235 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicoangel690 you tell a dude who just saw his buddy as a turret gunner getting mangled in half after their vehicle getting flipped over by an ied to get over it
@anamarvelo
@anamarvelo 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicoangel690 combat vet here. you NEVER hit a shell shelked soilder. NEVER that is your bother, whos mind has been torn apart by the enemy. if you think hitting him is going to help him put himself back toghter, your to stupid to even look at a gun
@cleanerben9636
@cleanerben9636 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicoangel690 I think you need a slap
@78.BANDIT
@78.BANDIT 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicoangel690 EVERYONE has a breaking point. Some faster then other's. Some it comes out in other ways. It all depends on the person. I would try not to judge them. Because You never know where yours just might be. One of the toughest men I met was in Special Forces. Green Berets he never showed any sign of thing's bothering him. One day he saw a little kid he would talk to and play soccer with and give candy to get shot and die. He cried like a baby and had to be sent out because he was in such a state of grief. He couldn't function.
@mnealbarrett
@mnealbarrett 4 жыл бұрын
George C. Scott that guy isn't. But Tom Seleck totally nailed Eisenhower.
@65BAJA
@65BAJA 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. I didn't even recognize him without hair and the mustache.
@mjbull5156
@mjbull5156 4 жыл бұрын
Major Dad got a promotion.
@KOBUN40
@KOBUN40 4 жыл бұрын
It took me a moment to realize who that was. Remove Tom's mustache and Hawaiian shirt and it's hard to recognize the guy.
@preciousroihomeshoppingnet7908
@preciousroihomeshoppingnet7908 4 жыл бұрын
Was Eisenhower that naive about "Joe Stalin"?
@McRocket
@McRocket 4 жыл бұрын
@John Cornell True. The Real Patton was massively anti-semitic, was racist, misogynistic and incredibly arrogant. And as for his general skills? I think they are overrated. He never had to lead with anything but a huge advantage and almost total air superiority in almost every battle he fought in. Any idiot can win a battle when he is holding all the cards.
@billt8504
@billt8504 5 жыл бұрын
McRaney does a fantastic job portraying a man who thinks he's right, think's he's smarter than his superior, and think's his superior is wrong, but also, in a moment realizes he has underestimated his superior's intellect, and just as suddenly realizes he's in deep kimshee.
@geoseward
@geoseward 2 жыл бұрын
Super correct
@alanlashbrook6442
@alanlashbrook6442 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that politically correct crap is working out nicely.
@op1240
@op1240 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to say some crap, but you said some better crap. Well said.
@chrispolen2712
@chrispolen2712 2 жыл бұрын
@@op1240 HAHA. Ditto to you from me on your crap comment.
@chiefslinginbeef3641
@chiefslinginbeef3641 2 жыл бұрын
Then he was assassinated.
@jerrymccrae7202
@jerrymccrae7202 3 жыл бұрын
One of those fresh faced kids was my Dad. USNR Utah beach first wave.
@Bruss390
@Bruss390 4 ай бұрын
You must be very proud
@jerrymccrae7202
@jerrymccrae7202 4 ай бұрын
@Bruss390 thank you for your kind comment, I am VERY proud of Dad. I wish you the best for the year!
@Bruss390
@Bruss390 4 ай бұрын
@@jerrymccrae7202 likewise buddy 😁
@jorgemacias2785
@jorgemacias2785 2 жыл бұрын
My English professor in college served under Patton. He described him as having a rather mousy voice, narrow shoulders with a holster that draped loosely over his hips. He further elaborated that George C. Scott made a much better Patton.
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 Жыл бұрын
You can hear is high pitch voice on you tube.
@robbie_
@robbie_ Жыл бұрын
@@ianmangham4570 Maybe artefact of recording technology of the time. All voices sound kind-of squeaky on that primitive recording equipment.
@envitech02
@envitech02 Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed the real Patton's voice is rather higher pitched than normal. If one doesn't know Patton, one would never guess he's a 4 star General.
@thomasmcginnis3783
@thomasmcginnis3783 Жыл бұрын
Patton *hated* to hear himself! He would've applauded George C. Scott's performance, as he had the look and the attitude _so_ down pat, but with the vocal _gravitas_ that Patton thought his own words deserved. 🧐
@LordZontar
@LordZontar Жыл бұрын
George C. Scott played Patton better than Patton played Patton.
@redrackham6812
@redrackham6812 4 жыл бұрын
This scene is a dramatization. In reality, Eisenhower reprimanded Patton in writing, not in person. But it is worth knowing a few things about the slapping incident. First, there were actually two incidents. Both of the two men Patton slapped had initially refused to leave their units to seek medical attention, and had to be ordered to do so. Also, they were both running fevers when they arrived at the field hospitals to which they reported, and had other physical symptoms, although, in the case of the first man, it turned out that he had malaria and dysentery, which probably explained his 102 degree fever. So Patton almost certainly overreacted, and the reprimand was justified.
@BST-lm4po
@BST-lm4po 2 жыл бұрын
Patton bailed Eisenhower out of trouble more than once. This "movie" is nothing more than Hollywood propaganda! Fabricating dialogue and putting a Leftist bias to the scene! Patton saw the New World Order coming and didn't approve of it , so they tarnished his image.
@temsedgwick9494
@temsedgwick9494 2 жыл бұрын
That was a very helpful post!
@logon235
@logon235 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that they were finally ordered by their commander to the hospital because of shell shock. That is when Patton found them.
@adamgrimsley2900
@adamgrimsley2900 2 жыл бұрын
He was a bully
@scottburns2600
@scottburns2600 2 жыл бұрын
​@@adamgrimsley2900 unfortunately that probably describes the best generals. I'm sure stormin Norman wasn't a lot of fun to work with
@dougfunny2347
@dougfunny2347 8 жыл бұрын
Is that seriously Tom Sellek playing as Ike? He looks way different without that iconic mustache!
@normankelley
@normankelley 8 жыл бұрын
It took me a few minutes to recognized Selleck as Ike.
@TheOlesarge
@TheOlesarge 7 жыл бұрын
"I know what you're thinking..."
@sce2aux464
@sce2aux464 6 жыл бұрын
The voice is unmistakable.
@LeighMet
@LeighMet 6 жыл бұрын
It is. Its the 1st time playing a person out of history
@crucisnh
@crucisnh 6 жыл бұрын
That's how I recognized him too. I doubt that I'd have recognized Ike as TS visually. It was definitely the voice that gave it away.
@toucansam3
@toucansam3 3 жыл бұрын
Gerald McRaney and Tom Selleck couldn’t look less like the guys they were playing, but somehow they pull it off.
@timberry4709
@timberry4709 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, 75 years after the fact, most Americans don't even know who the two characters they are portraying were.
@Filthy-sq5rm
@Filthy-sq5rm 5 ай бұрын
You're right. Seeing both without their mustaches is weird. Simon & Simon was also on CBS and Gerald McRaney and Jameson Parker did a guest starring role on Magnum PI once so it wasn't the first time they'd worked together.
@kchishol1970
@kchishol1970 3 жыл бұрын
I love this scene: Patton may have been the pitbull general of the US Army, but Eisenhower was the Top Dog of the Allies in Europe, a master military coordinator of even arch-rivals of Patton and Montgomery to make sure there is victory in Europe.
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos to Eisenhower to get Patton and Montgomery working together and showing whos boss. Otherwise, everything falls apart.
@scottodonnell7121
@scottodonnell7121 2 жыл бұрын
Ike wasn't a tenth of the soldier as Patton. A pencil pusher, never saw a battlefield. And his criminal negligence and revenge tactics he pulled on a defeated Germany Army, and the citizens of that country were nothing less than murder and genocide. He just sat back and let USSR take too much of Europe, while Patton was ready attack and send their asses back to Moscow. He Knew they were going to be trouble someday. And that we were fighting the wrong people.
@user-mq9co4tl1w
@user-mq9co4tl1w 2 жыл бұрын
...you mean he was more of a... yuck..politician...yes...true, he also later became President. Patton however was their best battlefield Commander not only because of his studied knowledge of warfare, and his toughness and intelligence as a tactician...but also because he was loved by his men because he was a true front line Commander who controlled fear! He led by example...and would not send others to go where he would not tread! The enemy feared his name....
@killer19183
@killer19183 2 жыл бұрын
Eisenhower also sucked off the british way to much, im 1000% the navy made fun of him. And screwed over patton alot specially when they fked up in halland and patton was scraping stuck in france
@sethvillarreal1316
@sethvillarreal1316 2 жыл бұрын
Montgomery had few redeeming qualities one would be hopefully expected to possess of an army commander during that time. He was more apt to a sly politician to benefit his character and purport some degree of military genius. Historical accounts that were not answerable to him (Montgomery) described him as being in near "baffoon" territory.
@discodiscord7202
@discodiscord7202 9 жыл бұрын
Gotta keep the helmet on general? "Damn right." best line ever.
@tomthx5804
@tomthx5804 6 жыл бұрын
No its not. It's a very lame line
@sudaev
@sudaev 6 жыл бұрын
It's not even a helmet; it's a helmet liner, which looks like a kid's plastic toy helmet.
@markmerzweiler909
@markmerzweiler909 6 жыл бұрын
Ike should have fired him right then and there if he did it...which I doubt he did.
@bernhardrogge2679
@bernhardrogge2679 6 жыл бұрын
Patton class of 1909, Eisenhower like Bradley class of 1915.
@BRO_v1
@BRO_v1 6 жыл бұрын
rudy kipling what a random thing to be wrong about..they were not at West Point together
@generalrendar7290
@generalrendar7290 6 жыл бұрын
What is sad is that he was right about Stalin.
@freedomordeath89
@freedomordeath89 3 жыл бұрын
No he was wrong, Patton wanted to invade Russia. Thus causing another huge war and million more dead and probably further spread of communism. Instead the US started the marshal plan and won the war with communism with peace. PAX AMERICANA won. Fuck Patton dumb violent ideas. He would have led to a massacre. Sometimes you need to be SMART and TACTICAL and DIPLOMATIC. A General should KNOW that.
@jonathanrice1070
@jonathanrice1070 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but at the time he was very wrong.
@pc12gauge
@pc12gauge 3 жыл бұрын
@@freedomordeath89 You are an idiot. URSS had it first A Bomb only at 1949. Until then US could have made several of them and dropped over major cities in URSS, and even China, and forced a unconditional surrender and the world would never had to deal with hardcore Socialism ever again.
@joshburns969
@joshburns969 3 жыл бұрын
@@pc12gauge The Russians once burned their capital city to the ground so an invading army could not have it. You honestly think dropping some atomic bombs that we didnt have would have mattered?
@thewildcardperson
@thewildcardperson 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshburns969 yes it would have lol japan had even more resolve then Russians but when another country can take a city every day there no use in fighting its why even an emporer would surrender one bomb on Moscow that would kill Stalin the rest wohld of cru.bled from there we could of finished everything back then
@matthewJ142
@matthewJ142 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Selleck shines in this scene. He literally becomes Eisenhower! So weird without his mustache.
@Adammmmuuuwee11
@Adammmmuuuwee11 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know what the word literally means? You're an idiot. He isn't literally Eisenhower.
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even recognize him, tbh
@Dabhach1
@Dabhach1 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes! It IS Tom Selleck. I'd never have recognised him without the soup strainer.
@harryc1971
@harryc1971 2 жыл бұрын
That mustache has typecast him over the years, like Sam Elliott hard to imagine him without it
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 2 жыл бұрын
@Joe Francis >>> _"soup strainer"_ 😊😊😊😊😊
@jonathanrice1070
@jonathanrice1070 3 жыл бұрын
Patton was like that overly enthusiastic/slightly off kilter teammate. An important part of the team that needed to be set straight every now and then.
@macmcleod1188
@macmcleod1188 2 жыл бұрын
yes the star player who forgets he is part of a team and that one great player can't win a team sport alone.
@bandicoot5412
@bandicoot5412 4 жыл бұрын
"Eisenhower in War and Peace," great book that changed my views of this great trained leader. Plus great actor Tom Sellek.
@AaronHungwell
@AaronHungwell 6 жыл бұрын
The last time before this these two acted together was the crossover episode of Simon & Simon and Magnum, PI!!!
@hededcdn
@hededcdn 2 жыл бұрын
That happened?? Wow, need to re-watch some stuff.
@abc64pan
@abc64pan 4 жыл бұрын
They cut the best part of the scene. As Patton was leaving, he told another officer that Eisenhower totally fell for his act. Then, back to Eisenhower in his office, he tells another officer that Patton probably thinks he fell for his act. Eisenhower knew Patton too well to be fooled by him.
@mattm7798
@mattm7798 Жыл бұрын
Patton reminds me of a line in Heartbreak Ridge were the Major says Highway should be kept behind glass that says "break in case of war". Patton was a great tactician but a crappy general if that makes sense. Ike was so good as bringing all these different top generals under one plan.
@MarkGoding
@MarkGoding Жыл бұрын
​@@mattm7798Ike had to deal with the likes of Patton , Monty and even DeGaul... He knew had to handle primadonas .
@mattm7798
@mattm7798 Жыл бұрын
@@MarkGoding Haha right. The fact that a French general was in anyway pompous was hilariously ironic considering how quickly they fell to the Germans. The British on the other hand successfully thwarted an all out assault on the British Isles so they had something to be proud of. Also weren't the British the first to use radar en masse?
@MarkGoding
@MarkGoding Жыл бұрын
@@mattm7798 Even by the standards of French generals, DeGaul was arrogant.. my favourite line from Rise and fall of the 3rd Reich was... : "DeGaul then relocated to England, where his steady diet for the next 4 years was the hand that fed him" ....
@typetersen8809
@typetersen8809 Жыл бұрын
​@@MarkGodingGreat quote!😂 That's William T Shirer right???
@MegaBoilermaker
@MegaBoilermaker 3 жыл бұрын
Eisenhower was a more able soldier/politician than most gave him credit for.
@pilgrim7globalltd227
@pilgrim7globalltd227 3 жыл бұрын
Well he did win two terms as president and was leader of allied troops in Europe. so not sure how much more kudos/credit he could get as a politician
@almostfm
@almostfm 2 жыл бұрын
@@pilgrim7globalltd227 And before the "presidential dollars" were issued, he was one of only six presidents to appear on a circulating US coin.
@travisfriedland9346
@travisfriedland9346 2 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to believe that Ike would have stayed out of Vietnam
@709mash
@709mash 2 жыл бұрын
@@pilgrim7globalltd227 and also, wasn't he the only or one of the only 5 star generals ever?
@Blankskeen
@Blankskeen 2 жыл бұрын
@@709mash One of 5
@larrysmith1568
@larrysmith1568 4 жыл бұрын
Patton was a field general, not a politician. Ike was a politician, not a field general. Huge difference.
@matthewfautch178
@matthewfautch178 4 жыл бұрын
If he wasn't a politician, why was he talking to the press about politics? It doesn't look like the difference is a big as one might think.
@Noplayster13
@Noplayster13 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Fautch He was talking to the press because he was kind of an ego maniac. The reporters wanted to talk to him because he was famously “the best general” that the allies had. A bad combination for a man with no filter. Hence why Larry S said he was no politician. He couldn’t keep his thoughts concealed, didn’t know or care how to be diplomatic, and was overly opinionated.
@akimi2003
@akimi2003 4 жыл бұрын
Noplayster Couldn’t have said it better myself.
@JakerTheSnake
@JakerTheSnake 4 жыл бұрын
The president of the United States of America is the Commander in Chief; the highest ranking member of the USA military. Regardless of how you feel the president is the highest ranking military member.
@davidlamb1107
@davidlamb1107 4 жыл бұрын
@@JakerTheSnake Commanding the military is not the same as being *in* the military. Presidents are the chief officers of the government. They are not officers of the military. They do not take the officer's oath. They do not receive an officer's pension (unless they previously served, possibly, such as Eisenhower), and they do not have a NATO-standard rank. Commander-in-Chief is not a rank, like General; it is a job title, like Army Chief of Staff (which is by law held by a four-star general). They do not even possess the one thing *most* indicative of being a soldier -- a uniform.
@Hal09i
@Hal09i 6 жыл бұрын
A career and life defining moment hanging in the balance and both men know it. When Ike says to Patton "do you understand?" there's a whole lot riding on Patton's response. It's the kind of moment that happens infrequently in life, and there's no do overs, no take backs, and no chance to do it differently. The wrong response will haunt you the rest of the your life. A word about Ike the real man-- it was said of him during his presidency by those who didn't know him that he was a great guy but a lousy politician. Those who knew him often said the reverse was true.
@deanfirnatine7814
@deanfirnatine7814 2 жыл бұрын
Proof is in the pudding America's economic golden age was under Ike's presidency and his party warning about the military industrial complex and its threat to our Republic were some of the most honest words a president ever spoke
@joshuac6389
@joshuac6389 Жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to see a reference for that. I've read the thought that Eisenhower wasn't the best politician....but I've never read anything that said Eisenhower was anything other than a good and decent human being.
@Hal09i
@Hal09i Жыл бұрын
@@joshuac6389 I came across that either in the book "President Kennedy- Profile of Power" by Richard Reeves or his other one titled ""President Nixon: Alone in the White House". Can't remember exactly which but believe it was the former. It had to do with Kennedy meeting with Ike during the transition I think. Both excellent reads.
@joshuac6389
@joshuac6389 Жыл бұрын
@Hal09i I'll check those out, thank you!!
@williammitchell4417
@williammitchell4417 Жыл бұрын
This was terrific. Tom Selleck and Mackey McRaney in this memorable scene of history
@rickvanheerden788
@rickvanheerden788 10 ай бұрын
This was a brilliant, moving film. Selleck really showed what he is capable of.
@jamesl9520
@jamesl9520 10 ай бұрын
I remember watching it when it came out and was amazed at Selleck too. He did a great job
@ln5321
@ln5321 6 жыл бұрын
"Well, communism's for the next war." Based.
@operez6519
@operez6519 4 жыл бұрын
based on what?
@oaples8790
@oaples8790 4 жыл бұрын
@@operez6519 i think what he meant was 'based", ie 'based' in term.
@N75911_
@N75911_ 3 жыл бұрын
@theinevitable storm82 Antisemite.
@jamesleliveld9957
@jamesleliveld9957 3 жыл бұрын
@theinevitable storm82 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA YOU THINK THE WEST WOULD HAVE WON IF THEY ATTACKED THE SOVIETS? Look as much as I'd love to believe thats true thats just fucking ridiculous, the Soviets had armies built up and had the majority of europe under it's control theres a slim fucking chance we wouldve beaten them considering Western europe was fucking obliterated.
@rnrailproductions5049
@rnrailproductions5049 3 жыл бұрын
James Leliveld the Western allies had three things the Soviets didn’t have have. One was the British and American air forces outnumbered the Soviet Air Force, they also had the two largest navies in the world, and third of all they had atom bombs which the Soviets wouldn’t have until 1949.
@teethadore
@teethadore 4 жыл бұрын
In "Up Front" Bill Mauldin describes a chewing out he got from Patton in person for a cartoon that the general thought was inappropriate. He said Patton was smaller than he'd been expecting, and had a high pitched voice that got higher and squeakier the more enraged he became!
@mvega6018
@mvega6018 3 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is that Patton turned out to be right about the Soviets.
@indobalkanizer6557
@indobalkanizer6557 3 жыл бұрын
And that's why he became the first casualty of pre-planned Cold War
@indobalkanizer6557
@indobalkanizer6557 3 жыл бұрын
And that's why he became the first casualty of pre-planned Cold War
@jessebowman161
@jessebowman161 3 жыл бұрын
obviously. but Eisenhower was also right. patton needed to shut up about them and focus on winning the war
@indobalkanizer6557
@indobalkanizer6557 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessebowman161 that's why General Smedley Butler said that "war is a racket, it always has been"
@Magnuss8
@Magnuss8 3 жыл бұрын
Ike knew it. They all did.
@dooddavid98
@dooddavid98 Жыл бұрын
Based, this is the guy who ended the the Korean war and sent the 101st airborne to Little Rock to defend civil rights. Great man!
@celebrim1
@celebrim1 11 ай бұрын
Ike was a good leader but he hated war a bit too much. A bit more aggression during his presidency would have saved countless lives in the long run. In particular, he should have sent the marines in to get rid of Batista, and he should have made the Shah see sense and how shaky his hold on power was. The second was a long shot, but imagine a world without an Iranian revolution. The first though was easily within his power. Imagine a world without Castro, without the Bay of Pigs, without the Cuban Missile Crisis, and without the 50 military interventions Cuba made in the 3rd world at the USSR's behest.
@TheCoolProfessor
@TheCoolProfessor 10 жыл бұрын
Patton was an extremely complicated man gifted in war and cursed with being born in the wrong century.
@bokehintheussr5033
@bokehintheussr5033 7 жыл бұрын
actually he wasn't that gifted in war. He was an immature narcissist who fluked his way to the top. He had very little understanding of grand strategy, logistics and supply lines etc. He was put in charge of high risk, hastily organised but necessary offensive operations. The troops were wise to him "blood and guts: his blood, our guts".
@chrisjohnson4666
@chrisjohnson4666 7 жыл бұрын
Tommy Two-shoes wow the Germans sure thought he was the best fighting general the allies had so much so in fact that the simple fact he was stationed across from cala help up a number of divisions including heavy armor that likely saved Omaha beach which was in doubt many hours and would of failed if Germany had moved in heavy armor... The status of that one man and some excellent psyops by allies had Hitler believing Normandy was a diversion for half a day...
@TheOlesarge
@TheOlesarge 7 жыл бұрын
George Patton was an outstanding general and tactician. His methods are still being taught at West Point. He had a grasp of the big picture that other generals did not. He understood the grand strategy, logistics, and supply lines, but he also understood that his way was the best way and that he commanded the best army in the field at the time.
@markmerzweiler4204
@markmerzweiler4204 7 жыл бұрын
And he also had a big mouth! You have to work with people to get things done...that is why Bradley was promoted ahead of him. You need to know when to talk and when to shut up...
@TheCoolProfessor
@TheCoolProfessor 7 жыл бұрын
True. The movie paints the picture of Omar Bradley and George S. Patton as being best friends but If you read some of the historical accounts you'll discover that much of the time Bradley could hardly stand being in the same room with him!
@michaelbrown5838
@michaelbrown5838 4 жыл бұрын
Mustache or no mustache, Tom Selleck will always be Thomas Sullivan Magnum. Mustache or no mustache, Gerald Mcraney will always be Rick Simon. Great performance here from both.
@martynspeck
@martynspeck 4 жыл бұрын
I thought I recognized that voice but I couldn't place it.
@markmerzweiler909
@markmerzweiler909 4 жыл бұрын
Simon and Simon....I loved that show.
@OptimusWombat
@OptimusWombat 3 жыл бұрын
Major Dad
@iggyarctic5711
@iggyarctic5711 3 жыл бұрын
Gerald McRaney will always Mayor Green in "Jericho".
@clearcreek69
@clearcreek69 3 жыл бұрын
John Hillerman will always be "Higgy Baby"
@GIFrontlineHistories
@GIFrontlineHistories 2 жыл бұрын
“Communism is for the next war”always gets me
@bbenjers
@bbenjers 3 жыл бұрын
"High physical conditioning is vital to victory. Fatigue makes cowards of all us." Gen Patton. And this is the actor they chose to play Patton?
@r.crompton2286
@r.crompton2286 3 жыл бұрын
Benji I thought the "fatigue makes cowards..." line came from Coach Vince Lombardi of the Green Bay Packers.
@GreatBigRanz
@GreatBigRanz 3 жыл бұрын
Fatigue is unavoidable. Wither it is physical or mental. It will eventually win in the end.
@blusafe1
@blusafe1 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreatBigRanz Right...that's the point. That's why you train hard so you delay fatigue.
@cassconner6023
@cassconner6023 2 жыл бұрын
This movie is anti Patton propaganda, i would be interested in the ethnicity of the producers and directors.
@petepure3387
@petepure3387 4 жыл бұрын
This is from "Ike: Countdown to D-Day". Actually a good movie.
@JohnnyRebKy
@JohnnyRebKy 4 жыл бұрын
My dads oldest brother, Lee Fox, fought under Patton. I never had the pleasure of meeting him
@johnwatson9490
@johnwatson9490 Жыл бұрын
Both actors displayed the true strengths of both characters. Patton was a brilliant field commander. Eisenhower was a brilliant theater commander. And Pat has made it clear in his statements why he should remain a field commander. When leading an overall war effort it requires more than just aggression.
@drawn2myattention641
@drawn2myattention641 2 жыл бұрын
George C Marshall, that master puppeteer of the war, deserves a movie made about him, but strangely never gets one. He must’ve had a profound understanding of human psychology, and what he didn’t know about people wasn’t worth knowing.
@johnharris6655
@johnharris6655 2 жыл бұрын
Marshall is the reason a 5 star is called General of the Army instead of Field Marshall like other countries. George Marshall on getting his 5th star would have been Marshall Marshall.
@drawn2myattention641
@drawn2myattention641 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnharris6655 Hah!
@cheaplaffsarefree
@cheaplaffsarefree Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/obJ9orV_ydPQp2g.html
@drawn2myattention641
@drawn2myattention641 Жыл бұрын
@@cheaplaffsarefree Thank you.
@westlock
@westlock 5 жыл бұрын
They had first met in 1919. During the 1920s, they went on several vacations together with their families.
@robertisham5279
@robertisham5279 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wigattor88 really
@blanemylke4144
@blanemylke4144 4 жыл бұрын
"False are worse than true enemies." ~ Sun Tzu
@tophercaesar5375
@tophercaesar5375 Жыл бұрын
It’s sad that no one listened him. He was right the whole time
@raydavison4288
@raydavison4288 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. What a great scene! 💖
@Nick_Hammer
@Nick_Hammer 6 жыл бұрын
both ike and patton were great men who needed each other. ike had to play the politician to hold the very uneasy and unprecedented alliance together and patton was a general who got things done that few others could. both men were right and wrong when it came to the post war world.
@StarOfHala
@StarOfHala 4 жыл бұрын
Tom selleck did a outstanding performance.
@44excalibur
@44excalibur 3 жыл бұрын
The soldier in question that Patton slapped was not suffering from shell shock or PTSD, he was actually suffering from malaria that went undiagnosed. Also, Patton said that Great Britain and the United States would control the postwar world, not specifying race. It was intended to imply that the Soviet Union would still be the enemy of the free world even after the war was over.
@Johnston212
@Johnston212 2 жыл бұрын
That could be debatable. Anglo-Saxons was predominantly associated with England and in turn, America.
@44excalibur
@44excalibur 2 жыл бұрын
@@Johnston212 Exactly. Patton was suggesting that England and America would be the leaders of the free world after World War II was over, and that the Soviet Union was probably going to be an antagonist to that.
@danbongard3226
@danbongard3226 2 жыл бұрын
The USA had ceased to be a majority "Anglo-Saxon" nation before Patton was even born.
@fantom5894
@fantom5894 2 жыл бұрын
It's not just what you say, it's how you say it. Ike (a future President of the United States) understood that. Patton did not.
@44excalibur
@44excalibur 2 жыл бұрын
@@fantom5894 Patton had no political ambitions. He was a pure combat soldier.
@darrengilbert7438
@darrengilbert7438 Жыл бұрын
Two great actors. Love their work.
@moserr11
@moserr11 6 жыл бұрын
"God Dammit George shut up!"
@notbadsince97
@notbadsince97 4 жыл бұрын
Easily the best line in the whole scene
@jeffreylasky2737
@jeffreylasky2737 3 жыл бұрын
IKE may have been the only one in history to been able to tell that to Patton to his face.
@pyromania1018
@pyromania1018 4 жыл бұрын
The slapping incident was more complicated than it looked. In actuality, Patton was suffering from combat fatigue (and either didn't realize it or was in denial about it, or both) and thought the soldier was shell-shocked when, in truth, he was suffering from malaria. After all the official stuff had been dealt with, the truth of the matter was brought to Patton's attention. He promptly summoned the private to his office and offered a sincere apology.
@JorisKoolen
@JorisKoolen 2 жыл бұрын
That's some irony, that fatigue would be an excuse to abuse someone with shell-shock 🤭
@SandfordSmythe
@SandfordSmythe 2 жыл бұрын
He may have been tired, but I don't think he had enough personal combat exposure to clinically qualify for PTSD.
@ianbahamonde6679
@ianbahamonde6679 Жыл бұрын
That’s actually not true at all🤡, he apologized after Eisenhower reprimanded him in private and forced him to, Bradley and Eisenhower both wrote that patron didn’t believe in battle fatigue or shell shock(ptsd)and he himself wrote it was an excuse for weak men ,he was absolutely wrong and was punished for his error like he deserved
@ef7558
@ef7558 Жыл бұрын
Yeah AFTER Patton threatening a kid (who was suffering from malaria and shell shock) with death for so called "cowardice". Patton was a bully and maybe he deserved to get run down like a dog in the street. Notice how he was big and bad walking in the room, but he practically begged and pleaded not to be sent home in the end. Textbook bully behavior: Badass until they're confronted or someone fights back!
@marchess286
@marchess286 Жыл бұрын
​@@JorisKoolen - not an excuse, an explanation.
@Gundam-ip9ur
@Gundam-ip9ur Жыл бұрын
Greatest Logistical Commander EVER ...Eisenhower Tactical genius
@andresferrari5859
@andresferrari5859 Жыл бұрын
Patton, Bradly, Montgomery, and others were the Battlefield Generals, without them, the war is lost. But Ike was the organizer, the planner, the one who brought everyone together. His strengths are what also made him an excellent President.
@Greebo-ne1sc
@Greebo-ne1sc 10 ай бұрын
Except for the fact Montgomery essentially organised D-day by himself
@teethadore
@teethadore 4 жыл бұрын
Still remember George C. Scott's performance, accurate or not....the line "A big iron swastika - ON MY BOOT!!" was classic!
@Nivicoman
@Nivicoman 13 жыл бұрын
I'm sure I can take the worst nightmare I've ever had and multiply that by 10 and that would be the level of horror experienced by someone in combat. I just can't imagine what they go through. My thanks to everyone past, present and future for serving to defend our freedom!
@farginbastage805
@farginbastage805 2 жыл бұрын
"they'll shoot you for this." "no I don't think so.....more like chewed out. I been chewed out before"
@brianhap22
@brianhap22 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic actors. great casting.
@pikiwiki
@pikiwiki 6 жыл бұрын
what a fantastic scene and dialogue
@joeyjamison5772
@joeyjamison5772 6 жыл бұрын
Patton's purpose in life was to prove there's a fine line between genius and insanity. Patton walked right down the middle of the line.
@sparx180
@sparx180 6 жыл бұрын
Joey Jamison Patton was all that and a shoe in for President. Instead the murdering Ike gets in. Loads of his kind of friends in Washington!
@marks_sparks1
@marks_sparks1 6 жыл бұрын
Chloe wilson remember Ike got the GOP nomination over Doug MacArthur, a better general than either of them. Ike was level headed and controllable, which is what needed to end the Korean War.
@Datburningpig
@Datburningpig 4 жыл бұрын
Gen Macarthur requested 50 nuclear bombs from Harry Truman to win the Korean war
@Quibblet
@Quibblet 2 жыл бұрын
It's more prevalent in males than in females. Camille Paglia touches on this alot.
@kamrandil4299
@kamrandil4299 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Patton wasn't even close to insane. He was, in my opinion, egotistical to the utmost, which clouded his non-combat judgment. War is politics by other means, and Patton only understood the tactical and operational levels of war, not the strategic nor political levels.
@johnwheatley5641
@johnwheatley5641 7 ай бұрын
For my money, Eisenhower was the greatest leader of all time. One thing that struck me when seeing footage him of was how relaxed his demeanour was. Of course he would have to have given his share bollockings so I have often wondered how he would have handled them.
@jeffmilroy9345
@jeffmilroy9345 Жыл бұрын
The long glance communicates more than the spoken word. And everyone is replaceable.
@v8Buster87
@v8Buster87 5 жыл бұрын
Patton was one hell of a general though.
@kchishol1970
@kchishol1970 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but Eisenhower was his superior for a reason. Ike was the kind of General utterly unintimidated by Patton's rep and able to deal with him and his screw-ups like his slapping of military hospital patients by relegating to being Decoy-In-Chief of Operation Fortitude.
@herbivorethecarnivore8447
@herbivorethecarnivore8447 3 жыл бұрын
Good general, terrible person.
@superiorshotgun4348
@superiorshotgun4348 3 жыл бұрын
@@herbivorethecarnivore8447 He is Great man
@brianwalsh1401
@brianwalsh1401 3 жыл бұрын
@@superiorshotgun4348 I think herbivore the carnivore got it right.
@superiorshotgun4348
@superiorshotgun4348 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianwalsh1401 Terrible men do not liberate Europe
@MarkDavis77
@MarkDavis77 5 жыл бұрын
Ultimately, Patton was right about the next war.
@veergauba
@veergauba 4 жыл бұрын
Did we miss something?
@redrackham6812
@redrackham6812 4 жыл бұрын
Not really. The United States didn't end up fighting the Soviet Union. Yes, we fought proxy wars, and, yes, Soviet pilots flew against American pilots in Korea, but, in the end, the US and the USSR never really went to war.
@lincolnshirepoacher9390
@lincolnshirepoacher9390 Жыл бұрын
We needed more like Patton.
@Grandizer8989
@Grandizer8989 Жыл бұрын
The only thing Blacks will ever amount to in the Army are cooks… Gen Patton
@soundnessofmind7196
@soundnessofmind7196 11 ай бұрын
You mean Eisenhower
@andreasandriopoulos9330
@andreasandriopoulos9330 3 жыл бұрын
Eisenhower was one of a very few examples of successful military being a successful politician.
@envinyatar5712
@envinyatar5712 2 жыл бұрын
Ataturk and de Gaulle are two other examples I can think of now.
@logon235
@logon235 2 жыл бұрын
Ulysses S Grant? George Washington? Napoleon Bonaparte? William the Conqueror? Julius Caesar? Augustus Caesar? etc... I guess it depend on how you define it but political leadership in the past was full of successful military leaders.
@wbcjr17106
@wbcjr17106 Жыл бұрын
The Duke of Wellington became Prime Minister of Great Britain; and you say nothing of Andrew Jackson and/or Theodore Roosevelt.
@madman026
@madman026 7 жыл бұрын
Patton was god damn hero him and Winston predicted the rise of cold war
@iggyarctic5711
@iggyarctic5711 3 жыл бұрын
Yes,they did. Also,however,Patton praised some anti-semitism,unfortunately. NOBODY is Perfect.
@madman026
@madman026 3 жыл бұрын
@@iggyarctic5711 i would have taken some anti-semitism over a nuclear arms race that can end the planet now we are all fucked
@Kriegerdammerung
@Kriegerdammerung 3 жыл бұрын
Men like Patton and Winston predicted Cold War because their friends would start it.
@aliarshad3012
@aliarshad3012 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kriegerdammerung best and accurate answer 👌
@JustAPintOfMilk
@JustAPintOfMilk 3 жыл бұрын
it wasnt hard to predict tbh
@Willaev
@Willaev 4 жыл бұрын
“The Czechs are also in this war”. Yeah, and what happened to them after the war thanks to the Soviet Union, Ike?
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 4 жыл бұрын
That's Ike's fault?
@markmerzweiler909
@markmerzweiler909 4 жыл бұрын
Do you really think millions of US soldiers would have fought and died to save them?
@kbanghart
@kbanghart 4 жыл бұрын
@@markmerzweiler909 nope
@brianschwatka3655
@brianschwatka3655 4 жыл бұрын
@@kbanghart not totally. FDR dismissed Stalin as the threat he was thinking they could control him. Churchill recognized the threat Stalin posed but as the Junior partner was left on the sidelines. FDR thanks to the Stalinist agents in his inner circle basically gave Stalin everything and Ike went along with it.
@markmerzweiler909
@markmerzweiler909 4 жыл бұрын
@@brianschwatka3655 You must remember that from 1941-1944, the Soviet Union took almost the entire brunt of Hitler's military machine. The allies felt guilty during the earlier meetings...big reason they gave Stalin so much.
@dustin1931
@dustin1931 3 жыл бұрын
If anyone was truly qualified to give Patton a reprimand, it was Ike.
@muriloninja
@muriloninja 3 жыл бұрын
Of course looking back Patton was 100% correct! smh!
@jacobmonast
@jacobmonast 3 жыл бұрын
Not for slapping a shell-shocked soldier
@briangoldy8784
@briangoldy8784 3 жыл бұрын
Yes he was.........Korea & Vietnam proved this......10's of thousands of Killed an wounded American an Allied Servicemen an women......fighting Communism .....Ike was wrong..........
@mohammadsalem9903
@mohammadsalem9903 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if this actually happened but I do know Eisenhower was a true leader. He did not waste lives and did his best for peace and equality. He wasn’t perfect but he was a great compared to some of the men of the era
@rolltide9547
@rolltide9547 4 жыл бұрын
He should have been charged with war crimes after ww2 for starving germans to death.
@delprice3007
@delprice3007 3 жыл бұрын
Many military strategists believe the Hurtgen campaign and the slow slog of the Bulge broad front was unnecessarily costly in American life.
@scottodonnell7121
@scottodonnell7121 2 жыл бұрын
@@rolltide9547 yup. Reading about it now in John Wear's "Germany's War." If the allies had to surrender, all their military and leaders would be facing capital war crimes.
@ChewyChicken589
@ChewyChicken589 2 жыл бұрын
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@ChewyChicken589
@ChewyChicken589 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottodonnell7121 kind of like the bogus Nuremberg trials we pulled on them?
@blazerocker1734
@blazerocker1734 4 жыл бұрын
I watched this scene years ago and despite watching many episodes of Simon & Simon and Major dad, *and* hearing that distinctive voice, I still didn't recognize Gerald McRaney without his mustache. I feel so ashamed. : (
@cjjenson8212
@cjjenson8212 Жыл бұрын
Who remembers when these two had the top shows on TV back in the day? This isn't the first time these two have shared the screen.
@stevenkloepping2953
@stevenkloepping2953 Жыл бұрын
I do. I miss those Thursday nights with Magnum and Simon and Simon.
@jploeg8862
@jploeg8862 11 ай бұрын
Patton on Eisenhower, " Best damn clerk I ever had"... Lol
@jamesuntiedt600
@jamesuntiedt600 17 күн бұрын
It was MacArthur that said that.
@johnbertrand7185
@johnbertrand7185 6 жыл бұрын
No one has been able to capture the true Patton. George C. Scott came the closest, but his gravely voice was the direct opposite of Patton who had a rather high pitched voice, some said it was almost effeminate. But Patton was the model of an armored commander, aggressive and direct who cared for his troops. He had seen direct combat himself in Mexico single handedly gunning down two of Pancho Vila's men. A true American Warrior.
@clarkmorrison7243
@clarkmorrison7243 2 жыл бұрын
Likewise depictions of Abraham Lincoln nearly always use a deep, ponderous voices for his utterances, but contemporaries tell us that he had a very high voice for a man.
@felixloewenich2202
@felixloewenich2202 2 жыл бұрын
tRuE aMeRiCaN wArRiOr
@keithziegler8881
@keithziegler8881 2 жыл бұрын
Really? Was he caring for his men with whom is slapping them for malingering when they were actually sick? Ike should have sent his ass home
@WorldWar2freak94
@WorldWar2freak94 Жыл бұрын
@@keithziegler8881No one said he was perfect. If Ike sent him home, he would have lost a talented, hard driving general at a vital point in the war.
@szahmad2416
@szahmad2416 Жыл бұрын
@@keithziegler8881 I think if you're going to look at a reason to look down at Patton, it would be about Task Force Baum (look it up).
@GOOSEYGOOSE9
@GOOSEYGOOSE9 5 жыл бұрын
Patton In Mischief From Ike For Slapping A Soldier,Patton On Probation.
@matthiascheah3519
@matthiascheah3519 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing he is afraid of is going home
@pixsilvb9638
@pixsilvb9638 3 жыл бұрын
He ultimately got that wish. He is buried in Europe with the rest of the fallen soldiers of his Army. Never came back.
@kellyvaters1689
@kellyvaters1689 3 жыл бұрын
Because to be sent home as a general just as the final push to victory was beginning would have exposed him as a risk to operations and, it must be said, to his own men. It would have meant spending the rest of his career at a desk, unable to be a publicly-recognized hero, unable to get what he craved - an audience.
@barriewright2857
@barriewright2857 11 ай бұрын
Will have to watch this, for the historical moments.
@62202ify
@62202ify 4 жыл бұрын
Patton was in my opinion one of the greatest Generals in American history, he attacked and never dug in, he was as tough as cast iron. We need more Generals like him. Patton never trusted the Russians, he knew Stalin couldn't be trusted.
@robrutt7129
@robrutt7129 4 жыл бұрын
62202ify I have yet to see an apology for Poland from the Russians or any kind of restitution gesture. Where was the UN to exact our Pearl Harbor animosity here or do we unleash it at Nuremberg?
@62202ify
@62202ify 4 жыл бұрын
@@robrutt7129 EXACTLY
@kubortthedane9487
@kubortthedane9487 4 жыл бұрын
Well, Patton was not a good general the man neglected the importance of logistics.
@markmerzweiler832
@markmerzweiler832 3 жыл бұрын
Patton had the luxury of knowing he would always have more men, tanks, guns and air cover than the enemy. That is a huge difference.
@ueks69
@ueks69 2 жыл бұрын
@@robrutt7129 i have yet to see the Americans apologize for dropping 2 Atomic Bombs on Japan
@FloridaMan05
@FloridaMan05 3 жыл бұрын
hearing Tom Sellecks voice but not seeing his mustache just blows my mind...
@jenniferlarson6426
@jenniferlarson6426 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Selleck is such a great actor. Whoever played Patton here did not measure up to George C. Scott's portrayal, but someone had to play him.
@cheaplaffsarefree
@cheaplaffsarefree Жыл бұрын
No one ever will.
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 Жыл бұрын
The guy playing Montgomery wasn't as good as Michael Bates in Patton either.
@sas_za6305
@sas_za6305 Жыл бұрын
George C. Scott blew these two away. That man has gravitas like nobody else.
@ashleighelizabeth5916
@ashleighelizabeth5916 Жыл бұрын
Ironic that people love him and that role so damn much since he neither looked nor sounded a damn thing like the real George Patton.
@brianmatthews4323
@brianmatthews4323 10 ай бұрын
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 Scott did a better job playing Patton than did Patton.
@stephenlewis2975
@stephenlewis2975 3 жыл бұрын
I wish we have George Patton today
@Yoseman1
@Yoseman1 2 жыл бұрын
You want more born wealthy leaders who act like tough guys? We actually have PLENTY of them today...
@kommando5562
@kommando5562 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yoseman1 not proud yet powerful southern Anglo Saxon chads like him tho
@Yoseman1
@Yoseman1 2 жыл бұрын
@@kommando5562 Powerful? No...
@aa-hb3tg
@aa-hb3tg Жыл бұрын
@@kommando5562 Anglo snakesons are a dying race and will soon be wiped off
@robertfischer380
@robertfischer380 6 жыл бұрын
Read "HONOR UNTARNISHED: A West Point Graduate's Memoir of WWII" by Donald Bennett, it will give a more accurate picture of Gen Patton and Gen Eisenhower. He served under both and was in the adjoining bay at the hospital where the slapping incident occurred. Patton was cheered by the wounded soldiers present. Eisenhower was a politician, and commanded as such. If Patton would have been turned loose, the war in Europe would have ended sooner, and many Allied lives saved. That came not just from Patton fans from America, but from German generals after the defeat of the Nazis. They feared Patton.
@Finians_Mancave
@Finians_Mancave 4 жыл бұрын
They feared Hitler too. You are confusing military competence with character. If you don't understand Ike's words about a "racially pure America" and the dangers of that kind of thinking then I can only assume you agree with Patton, hence the impassioned defense of him.
@nikolatesla5553
@nikolatesla5553 4 жыл бұрын
Not exactly true. There were multiple such incidents of Patton slapping soldiers suffering from PTSD. The George C. Scott movie combines two incidents into one. You simply cannot sum up Patton very well. Great tank commander but he absolutely didn't have handle on dealing with the politics. The Russians were our allies and whether he liked them or not his comments during the war was detrimental. As an ordinary citizen he has a right to speak his mind. But not as a US General.
@robertfischer380
@robertfischer380 4 жыл бұрын
@@nikolatesla5553 when political concerns are put ahead of winning a war..... a war can be lost, certainly initiative at critical times. I don't think this movie scene is completely accurate. I think Eisenhower was aware that Stalin was not our friend, allied with us, yes but never our friend. Donald Bennett served under Patton and commanded an artillery battalion, later became a 3 star General himself. I value his opinion over Hollywood portrayals of General Patton. Political correctness costs lives.
@markmerzweiler909
@markmerzweiler909 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm, well Patton was in North Africa, Sicily, Italy and he commanded Third Army in the Western advance . . . so, no, I doubt the war would have ended much sooner.
@robertfischer380
@robertfischer380 4 жыл бұрын
@@markmerzweiler909 German Generals were quoted as saying that the war could have been won in the fall of 1944 if General Patton would've been allowed the leeway to proceed like he wanted. Eisenhower had to listen to FDR.
@bruceg.6282
@bruceg.6282 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody can be Patton but George C .Scott
@DJ-tt7tq
@DJ-tt7tq 2 жыл бұрын
Very interested in the real General Patton. Yes, he made mistakes as we all do,but he did fight for the right cause.Ike let him off by letting him keep his helmet on, but of course, he wasn't bothered by that. Even so, I thought Patton's character showed great disrespect to him by doing so. At least on that part. Very well performed scene by them both.
@theconservative1967
@theconservative1967 2 жыл бұрын
When disrespect is given, as was the case of Ike towards Patton, why should any respect be given back. Like he saying goes "You sow what you reap." Ike sowed disrespect. He received it back.
@DJ-tt7tq
@DJ-tt7tq 2 жыл бұрын
Even so, Ike was still his commanding officer, and Patton was well out of order in that respect.
@nottelling5415
@nottelling5415 2 жыл бұрын
Omar Bradley's book "A soldier's story" would be a good place to start.
@keithziegler8881
@keithziegler8881 2 жыл бұрын
@@theconservative1967 Eisenhower didn't so we need. He showed patently exact respect you deserve. What Patton forgot is that he answers to other people. He thought that he was top dog and he wasn't, and he learned that lesson.
@beginnerguitar6559
@beginnerguitar6559 6 жыл бұрын
I liked this movie and I think Selleck did great. The problem is, he is 6'5 or something and Ike was about 5'8. That comes into major play when presenting authority. A bigger, taller man is more physically intimidating. So Selleck has that advantage that Ike didn't.
@macmcleod1188
@macmcleod1188 2 жыл бұрын
Eisenhower is listed at 5 ft, 10+1⁄2 in on the "heights of the presidents" page. Average height for men born in 1890 along with him was 5 ft, 6 +1⁄2 in. He would have probably been perceived about the same as a 6'0 is today. He's a couple inches shorter than Patton (who is listed at 6'1" and I verified by looking at photos of them standing side by side). He's about 5" taller than Monty. Eisenhower's son was about 6'3 tho and towers over him (looks like beanpole too). Eisenhower was taller than the admirals visiting the pacific fleet while president and in pictures of him with the troops, he's in the middle height wise.
@forickgrimaldus8301
@forickgrimaldus8301 2 жыл бұрын
If I was under his command I would probably think he is 7
@sempermilites87
@sempermilites87 6 жыл бұрын
Though I've never seen this show, nor do I know whether this was accurate or not. HOWEVER, I do like how respectful Ike was still to Patton while dressing him down when he says, "Do you understand me sir?" Patton was older than Ike in 1944 and even though Eisenhower was Patton's superior he still in this show showed his respect to elders.
@kelvinktfong
@kelvinktfong 5 жыл бұрын
sempermilites87 Ike was a great man. When he was president, his CNO was Arleigh Burke who jumped from Rear Admiral to 4 stars to assume the job of CNO (jumping over 20+ officers senior to him). Burke would stand if any officer who was senior to him enter the room even though he held the top job.
@starbird1111
@starbird1111 3 жыл бұрын
Always good to see it from a different manuscript.
@johnsteiner3417
@johnsteiner3417 2 жыл бұрын
This time Patton actually sounds like Patton.
@nachtrevi82
@nachtrevi82 5 жыл бұрын
bottom line is the "allies" knew very well the real enemy were the damn bol
@herbivorethecarnivore8447
@herbivorethecarnivore8447 3 жыл бұрын
0:55
@tommytube268
@tommytube268 2 жыл бұрын
Eisenhower was one hell of a smart, General, Philosopher, President.
@herbivorethecarnivore8447
@herbivorethecarnivore8447 3 жыл бұрын
The "god dammit George, shut up" was so satisfying
@johnharris6655
@johnharris6655 2 жыл бұрын
I love how in one scene Ike Placates Monty but in another, quietly tells him to piss off about his thrust through the low countries.
@fisterhr
@fisterhr 5 жыл бұрын
George was right about the Soviets.
@lookbothways744
@lookbothways744 4 жыл бұрын
Now all the Ulta conservative so-called Patriots are playing into the hands of the Russians. Ironic isn't it?
@siegfriedwolf739
@siegfriedwolf739 4 жыл бұрын
George was right about the Germans.
@Reephamike
@Reephamike 4 жыл бұрын
And so Stalin was right about the West?
@puggerinopug9280
@puggerinopug9280 4 жыл бұрын
He was right about everything
@rahulsar0
@rahulsar0 7 жыл бұрын
Patton was a brilliant tactician but when it came to long term strategy and logistics iek to take cake
@KeepingTheIronThroneWarm
@KeepingTheIronThroneWarm 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Two icons of 80's TV. Gerald McRaney (Simon & Simon) and Tom Selleck (Magnum P.I.).
@nomadjensen8276
@nomadjensen8276 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like 2020 crept its way into this movie.
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