The Difference in Quality is SHOCKING! Steeldive V Heimdallr V San Martin V Cronos V Tisell
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Күн бұрынComparing these dive watches, Steeldive v Heimdllr v San Martin v Cronos v Tisell Rolex Submariner Homages, which has the best bezel!
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@anotherhappylanding1011 11 ай бұрын
I have had my Steeldive 1953 for a little while now, and I have to completely disagree with your assessment. Mine has easily the best bezel action and fitment of any dive watch in my collection, more in line with your assessment of the San Martin. There must be a QC issue with your specific watch.
@gurutimes2 2 жыл бұрын
THE BEZEL ON MY STEELDIVE IS SOLID NO PLAY
@edgarb4100 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps that Steeldive was faulty but I have had my Steeldive 1953 for a year and a half and it is rock solid all around, I was and still am blown away by the quality and finish of it.Has been through some tough terrain with me and it still looks brand new =O
@MrSeedi76 Жыл бұрын
True that. I have the Steeldive "no date" Sub and it's outstanding value. Better lume than both of my San Martins that were about twice as expensive. Even Addiesdive has better lume than San Martin. And I have the Heimdallr "NTTD" which is absolutely fantastic. Not sure how much San Martin pays for advertising on KZfaq but it's obviously a lot.
@Box500spooks Жыл бұрын
I have the Steeldive in both date and no date versions - no issues at all with the bezels on either - no backplay, no rocking, nice movement and clicks.
@darrenfry4695 Жыл бұрын
Yep I agree I've had my steeldive hulk for three years and it's solid and I've never had a problem with any steeldive watches I've got the " Willard and tuna " from them ,but Ive had problems with san martins bezel twice now the third time they sent me an ok one but all that trouble and waiting for a watch that cost me exactly double the price of the trouble free steeldive!?
@jb678901 7 ай бұрын
AGREE! I own the SD1953 "Cermit", SD1964 "Big Hulk", SD 1975XP, and SD1970. Have plenty of other watches, from Deep Blue (Master 2000) to Rolex Submariner (16613 Sultan). Frankly, as an every day tool watch, the SteelDives are really hard to beat on quality/price. I have never had a bad bezel on any of the SD's, to include the 4 SD1953's that I've gifted to family members. This video was strange in emphasizing an obvious quality defect...that watch should've been returned. One may even question if it had already been disassembled by a hack, just in time for the video. I think the only area where the SD's may fall short is on the bracelet...which has a stamped clasp. I simply upgraded to an after-market unbranded Oyster with machined clasp ($20) or... in the case of the SD1970...a MAIKES after-market full leather strap with deployment clasp ($25).
@bigriceburner 2 ай бұрын
I have to chime in here I have the Starbucks and just got it recently about a month ago. Honestly it's perfect in every way I mean I don't have a microscope but I do have a loupe that I can look closely with. I bought mine on the cheap for $44 with a rubber strap. I knew I was going to upgrade to a 904ss bracelet and it worked out great. On the fly adjustment, the feel of the 904. I'm there already.
@davidgutierrez8795 Жыл бұрын
I own several $500-$1500 watches (Mido, Tissot, etc), and recently bought a SteelDive...I can just say I am very impressed by the quality/cost of the watch. I found few things to complain about such as the bracelet no being great but still, it is a $100 watch compared to a $1000 one. great watch overall.
@rickwebermusic Жыл бұрын
After looking at your macro shots, it's obvious that the San Martin has the best fit and finish of all of them. All of the brushing, notches, etc... are finished flawlessly.
@Dronetothetop 2 жыл бұрын
The best one is Steeldive because mine is rock solid bezel. It seems you got a defective one. Nothing can come close to Steeldive’s lume.
@andrewlevett4274 Жыл бұрын
You can see on the macro shots that the finish is nowhere near the quality of San Martin.
@lincmerc1581 Жыл бұрын
Addiesdive has a great bezel. No back play or looseness. I am in love with my $39 quartz. They also make an automatic with a Seiko NH35A movement for about $120.
@Dronetothetop Жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter no more. I have departed from the Watch scene a long time ago. Watches don't interest me anymore. Have fun folks.
@edithflood631 2 ай бұрын
Yes, Addiesdive trumps SteelDive in all aspects except coolness of name. Substance trumps name.
@gimbydude491 3 жыл бұрын
Loving these deep dive comparisons into various aspects of the watches. Really telling for either you get what you pay for OR know your brand and not necessarily go by price... keep them coming!! 👍
@alecmoriarty 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome video! I really appreciate these super in depth comparisons. I’ve been on the fence about some of these for a while, and your videos really help
@jollyrob 3 жыл бұрын
I do like these in depth vlogs - they really help me make my mind up and pull the trigger with confidence. 👍
@watchmebuildit 3 жыл бұрын
This comparative series is taking the head-to-head to new heights! Really well done Gary
@RenoLaringo 2 ай бұрын
Really? All I've seen is a bezel comparo, not much else. The sound of a bezel might be a thing, but not very relevant to the quality of a watch.
@glennrainey1227 3 жыл бұрын
glad you rolled out that Birocratic track again Gary. That piece in the Exciton preview was seriously inspired production, and pulled me on board with that project.
@sharkeyboy123 3 жыл бұрын
San Martin all the way I'd say. I'm loving the hair brush in the background - I'm sure, like me, you use one every day.
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
for my beard :)
@stusims6567 3 жыл бұрын
For me it would be the San Martin. I’ve seen a lot of reviews and the San Martin always fair very well. I’ve been thinking of purchasing one for myself. Great review as always Gary!!!
@ruthessu 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gary, great video. Love the macro footage. Incredible to see the huge differences in quality. Great work.
@Tobi_Jones 3 жыл бұрын
these detailed comparison videos are great, i am sure they will help a lot of people
@LesterLovesWatches 3 жыл бұрын
I love a bit of bezel action on a Friday morning.And thanks for bringing back the click audiograms.
@Cleatus546 4 ай бұрын
This is the first time I've seen a thorough examination of watch bezels. Great job. Thank you. 👍
@timothythomas1626 3 жыл бұрын
Good Take on using 2 thumbs to show bezel movement. Never seen anyone use this method.
@BCallum 3 жыл бұрын
I really like this series. Great camera work. Thanks for all your hard work.
@frznrrfan.frznrrfan102 3 жыл бұрын
My Tisell is just fine, very min back play but the clicks sound just fine, also the white paint in the ceramic insert is perfect, I bought it used (under 200) and the movement is within seconds a day. No complaints here. But I must say I really like the Cronos,
@GM-ii8gs 3 жыл бұрын
Great series, I like the format, you must have had a bit of bad luck with the San Martin, on my black v3 that I'm wearing today, I've just checked and there is no side-to-side movement on the bezel at all or lift or bounce. I got mine in the last 11/11 sale, so perhaps it's been improved, but I don't use the bezel very often so perhaps it moves more as it wears in.
@drwindsurf 3 жыл бұрын
I really do like these in-depth reviews/comparisons - Thank you Gary 😊👍
@Zzutubez 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the level of detail in your comparisons. Quite remarkable
@oktc68 2 жыл бұрын
Great and interesting video. Hopefully this will end the homage hater's argument that "they're all made in the same factory" for good. Interesting point that Tisell sounds remarkably similar to my Seiko SNE 497 Tuna-Lite which is incredibly sloppy and indistinct. I'm not really much of a bezel fiddler often trying them once or twice when they're new with the exception of my fancy Heimdallr 6105 8110 with the ETA 2824, that feels so good even I can't resist a twiddle!
@stuartyboy71 3 жыл бұрын
Just received delivery of the steel dive. Looks like there has been an upgrade on the bezel very positive, tight and absolutely no back play on it. Not as good as my Black Bay 58, impressive nonetheless!! Great comparisons incidentally, keep up the good work
@watsondna 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you received the ver 1 steel dive? Mine is solid, does not roc or have any back play. Hmmm.
@FadeToBlack2181 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Gary. I bought 2 of those steel dives for gifts and neither had the rocking / loose bezel issue. Maybe was specific to that particular example you got?
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe but I have bought 4 Steeldive watches so far and the quality of this one is comparable to the other three so I suspect this is a fairly common example sadly. Great that there are good examples out there though....that's is what we would all prefer.
@FadeToBlack2181 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilikewatches Yes, perhaps may be poor QC between different batches.
@scriner11 3 жыл бұрын
Really great comparison of bezels, I am picky when a bezel doesn't line up as it should, or back play. I find when the watches just have a name on them it does look cheap especially long names, T least put some type of logo, like Cronos or San Martin does, I find my eye catches that long drawn out name rightaway, but on the other hand I don't mind many lines of text on the dial, and even a splash on color in 1 or 2 words for that little pop.
@timmcdonald5335 3 жыл бұрын
That is an interesting test, well done. Bezels should not wobble. I tried this on all my dive watches from the Rolex sub to my citizen and Seiko divers. Even the Invicta bezel does not wobble. My advice is to forget these watches and buy the Seagull dive watch 6057 with PVD coating. No bezel wobble at all, st2130 movement and the most legible dive watch for the money.
@gunjja13 2 жыл бұрын
This videos you made about the differences were super helpful! More then all the other channels I watched before. Thanks for making them. Subscribed with bell on!
@ilikewatches 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you
@briandelaney8122 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd agree with everyone here. I have a couple of steeldives and they have rock solid bezel and nice brushing. Also I have an Addiesdive Quartz and it's awesome ( $50 AU) great bezel, nice watch.
@gandhabba69 10 ай бұрын
Hello im very indecisive between those 2 Addiesdive my-h3 (quartz/sub)-37€ and steeldive automatic 1953-wich is 97€, would you recomend going for the cheapest since you have both to compare or steeldive is a lot better?? Need your advice please 😂
@briandelaney8122 10 ай бұрын
It depends on weather you want the accuracy of a quartz or the sweep of a mechanical. Personally, if it's an everyday wear I'd go for the Addiesdive for conveiniance. Having said that, with the Steeldive you get a sapphire crystal and an NH35 automatic. But you really can't go wrong with either.@@gandhabba69
@butts4653 Жыл бұрын
you have heimdallr listed twice where Tissel should be @8:47 Also to address the video I thought the Cronos actually had the nicest finishing. Edges were well defined but nice and rounded at a macro level. San Martin everything was very sharp and cold. Seems to be a commonality with San Martin, those Sharp edges.
@bevboakes8982 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gary,yet again another honest review,and yet again the SAN Matin pips the rest to the post. All their range of watches seems to be good watches just question the price of some of them. The Pagani are also a decent watch choice.
@glenh4971 3 жыл бұрын
Thanx. I didn't know that the San Martin watches were so good. I appreciate that. Do the other San Martin models have the same good quality?
@AA-ig7tw 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing and rational comparison work, well done Gary. By far the best Aliexpress watch channel. I find it quite sad that Jody didn't adverdise your channel after you got banned, as he probably is one of your subscribers. You truly deserve far more than 4k subs.
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, very kind words! I’m not surprised Jody didn’t. I won’t say any more than that!
@George-cm8in 3 жыл бұрын
Great review "mini series" 😂got my eye on the San Martin..... And talking about the San Martin..... The bezel action spring loading if u call it that is rare but not unique....... My casio Duro has the same action built in to the bezel..... Not as good as the San Martin for quality I'm sure.
@markukus5660 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the San Martin some weeks ago. It looks very nice but I could not wear it. All edges were very sharp (bracelet, case, clasp, crown). For me awful to wear. So I sold it after some days.
@felo6035 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Gary, Amazing analysis, particularly like the macro shots and graphical representation of the "clicks"... you have done an outstanding job sir. That said, and I own 3 of the 5 watches (Steeldive, San Martin and Heimdallr) I agree with your findings and conclusions. Thank you again Gary, your material just keeps getting better and better. Have a wonderful weekend. Cheers
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
lol, I thought you were going to say i had got it completely wrong! Nice that you agree......thank you for your kind words!
@MichaelG1986 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that the Cronos is really good. I own one and I really like the bezel action. I had a San Martin, but had to return it because the crown was defective and too difficult to screw back into the case. I found the San Martin a little "too sharp" to handle all around. The bezel action was nice, but the edges of the bezel were sharp feeling. Same for the crown and the links on the bracelet. The edges are fairly sharp feeling. I guess it depends on what you're looking for. The San Martin was definitely quality, but I didn't enjoy the overall experience. I prefer the Cronos.
@nathski22 3 жыл бұрын
Love these Gary! My SM V3 bezel action is great UNTIL I get the pip to in between the date and the index for 2. Then it becomes very stiff between there and returning to the arrow at 12. Any tips for resolving or am I just stuck with it?
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
grab some dental floss and see if you can work that under the bezel, that is a common fix?
@Cleatus546 4 ай бұрын
I'm a new subscriber. I really like your content and your way of reviewing the watches. I've noticed a couple of knives on the shelf behind you. Are you into knives also?
@AadrashAli 7 ай бұрын
I am having best experience with SteelDive 1953, really rock solid and just +5 Seconds error thats all... Finsishing like super expensive watch and bezel also very rigid and solid, no any fizzi movement. Super happy with the purchase.
@JonTheComputerDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Tissel and no complaints, bezel action is good with just a hint of back play. I also have a Cronos which is also good and again just a hint of back play.
@the_9ent 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised by the Tissel. These guys have been doing homages for ages and thought they would have been much better than this.
@bruh_oly1370 3 жыл бұрын
Last few days I've been toying with the history proven tisell and it's famed following or the new kid on the block the San Martin. You've been a great help in helping me decide.thankas
@igorbogdanovic1978 3 жыл бұрын
If I compare your SD1953 vs. my SD1970 difference in bezel action and QC is lightyears... Strange
@karlsenula9495 3 жыл бұрын
Yup appearance and QC on the Steeldive depends on the model .. but it also goes to consistancy and QC of the brand. Love my Steeldive Captn. Willard have absolutely no regrets about it. San Martin seems to consistently offer the best QC but you definitely pay more for it - to me that is where the extra money from San Martin and Cronos really goes. The question is how detailed and picky are you and can you live with the issues for the price or are you willing to pay extra. Tissel seems to be the biggest huge disappointment in this series ... other than that I figured Cronos and San Martin (I figured San Martin would be top based on watching multiple other videos) would be in the same ball park followed by Heimdallr vs. Steeldive because of the price.
@sonyman2112 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Gary Thanks for this. Just one thing thou, i think you missed labeled the Tisell as a Heimdallr, 8:43. That Tisell really looks bad up close.
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, sorry, too late to change it now but I think people should get it....if they notice it.
@neilwhite8131 3 жыл бұрын
I have the 1954 steeldive and the bezel is fantastic, strange how the QC can vary so much.
@andrev4683 3 жыл бұрын
QC does not vary , Quality does . Because there is no QC "Quality Control" .
@istintiostili3342 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Steeldive Sd 1953 for me the Better of all these you mentioned. The bezel has no defects, the luminescence higher than many high-ranking brands ... it will be yours 😉
@TomasWatchReviews 3 жыл бұрын
nice review. I just wonder how PD1661 would compare
@hitsugayat10 2 жыл бұрын
Weird, my Steeldive Kermit/Starbucks bezel is absolutely perfect with no backplay at all
@jb678901 Жыл бұрын
I have the same, after gifting my SD1953 Hulk to my dad, who was really impressed with that watch. I did invest in an unbranded Oyster-style bracelet with fully brushed links and a micro-adjustable/machined clasp (+$15). Bought the Cermit for about $88 on sale...so an all-in price of $103 for this quality/spec seems unbeatable. Absolutely no issues with the bezel...honestly...I do not know where that sample came from for this review. Maybe it was sent by a competitor?
@watsondna 3 жыл бұрын
I stand corrected mine is the Capt. Willard homage.
@aaronbiddulph1442 3 жыл бұрын
San Martin all day! They just make a quality watch! Fantastic in depth look into these watches great stuff!!👍🏻
@waynewilson2365 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have only a Steeldive from among those tested so that is the only one I can comment on. Mine is the 1954 Steeldive and it has with out a doubt the best bezel action of all my watches. Back play is almost non existent and the action is very crisp. Very impressed with the quality. Hope to purchase another Steeldive soon.
@PpaStrmpf 3 жыл бұрын
The San Martin has a interesting Sumo homage hopefully you'll get someday it in your hands. Bezel play and tension can be adjusted to a certain level. If the factory shift had a rough weekend and the tolerance is to high, than... hey you are not a wizard.
@lordcharfield4529 10 ай бұрын
I’m really looking forward to receiving my brand new Steeldive SB1953 I’ve bought on eBay for just under £90, thanks to all of the recommendations in the comments and recommendations on other channels. The bezel will be purely decorative for me and I won’t be wobbling it from side to side, so anticipate a really positive experience 😅
@StuntpilootStef 3 жыл бұрын
The look of the bezel and the endlinks that extend way too far on the Cronos still convince me the San Martin is best of them all. I wouldn't trade it for the Cronos.
@Globetrotter-1 3 жыл бұрын
Every company has different quality in their lineup of models. For example the Steeldive SD1978 is a superb high quality watch that knocks the socks off the top of range in the other brands, and easily a match for Seiko. Regarding straps, I rarely use the straps that come with watches, and prefer to buy a separate high quality shark-skin steel strap and heavy duty pins.
@Godwin-VIDEO_EDITOR 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please make a video on feice royal pat skeleton? I find it really attractive, and am considering getting one but I need to hear your pov
@Iamkosling 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, can you make a test of the Sugess Submariner watch ?The quality looks amazing for the the price (~160 usd).
@AlexanderB. 3 жыл бұрын
If I was nitpicky I'd point out the one one of the macro shots comparison pictures (at 8:43) Heimdallr appeared twice and Tisell was missing. But thank god I am not nitpicky! 😂 All the macro shots of the San Martin are a feast for the eyes. Great comparison series, cheers Gary!
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I just forgot to rename the last one, it is the Tisell.
@ged3680 4 ай бұрын
Hello, I got the Steel Dive, £49, arrived from China to the UK in 7 days. Excellent quality. I wear it when I don’t want my Rolex 16610 to get damaged. Things must have improved. Ged
@rimas.kalpokas 3 жыл бұрын
I have all of these watches, without the Tisell. Was thinking of getting it, though not anymore after seeing your comparisons :D If I may suggest, I would draw your attention to the newly released Phylida sub homage. It has lost the cyclops, but now includes the NH35 and BGW-9 lume. So spec wise it is at least the same level with SteelDive, and since Phylida's bracelet is much better than SteelDive's, it would be an interesting contender.
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am in the process of getting one, thank you
@Getouttahere78 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are getting better and better. If you want a watch with perfect bezel movement and alignment, buy a Seiko 😂
@solo9509 Жыл бұрын
How’s pagani design compared with these guys?
@ianbyford8565 3 жыл бұрын
I have the steel dive watch and has no play, perfectly alignment and sounds like the San Martin !!! Just goes to show you pays your money and take pot luck but at £65 pounds the steel dive is a no brainier especially with the same seiko movement NB the loom is as good as my omega
@waris3732 3 жыл бұрын
Okay I know for sure that steeldive upgraded their bezel actions on their sub homages. Before the rolex type caseback versions of steeldive had bad bezel actions evidenced by the first youtube reviews of those watches, but they changed and also changed the caseback to a screwdown caseback with lazer engraving at the back. So look for that when you're shopping
@snacklofter 3 жыл бұрын
@@waris3732 That's very helpful - many thanks.
@buijs1967 3 жыл бұрын
Steeldive is great for the price, mine has great bezel action and i have heimdallr and san martin to compare. Steeldive has great lume in the bezel too.
@waris3732 3 жыл бұрын
@@DM-rc4yu yes that's true! I think San Martin is good value on a sale. Both San Martin watches I've had have had really sharp edges on every possible edge of the case and bracelet so I've had to spend hours filing them down. Not had problems with the bezel action though
@istintiostili3342 3 жыл бұрын
Great Ian😉💪🏻
@manuelmikewa388 3 жыл бұрын
Will you kindly do a review on the Steeldive tuna homage (sd1975)? Very few reviews out there yet it's such an interesting watch. You could go a step further and compare all the homages from the same companies as this video.
@elplebe11000 3 жыл бұрын
San martin and the updated pagani Comparison please
@mitchellsumpter4807 3 жыл бұрын
Luv my bronze Cronos! Best Lume; last all night!!!
@Troklo 3 жыл бұрын
Love the new little intros, keep it up!
@giorgiodelpalatinato6718 3 жыл бұрын
Very well made comparison 🙏🙏🙏
@MrWayneploof 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see how Parnis would do
@nathski22 3 жыл бұрын
Also whenever I watch one of these the urge to swap whatever I’m wearing for my “Hulk” Water Ghost is so strong...
@jacc88888 3 жыл бұрын
Fun comparison video. Cronos wins for me because : sound of bezel is best, the numerals looks the smartest and most elegant imo. Somehow the SM numerals looks cheaper under macro even though they are very precise. Only you can make a judgment on how all the bezel actions feel! I’ll take your word that the SM is the nicest.
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
I do agree with you in some respect, I would have the Cronos watch over the SM because of the crispness of those clicks but I try not to weight my opinions too much.
@jacc88888 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilikewatches Actually, you’ve turned me into a Cronos fan-boy since your association with the company! 🤩Recently bought a Cronos type B Flieger with the PT5000 and love it. Also I get a little fed up with all the praise being heaped on SM in the community and Cronos not getting much so I think I’m a little biased!
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
Croons are getting there...just think where they were 6 months ago, selling single digit numbers and no one was reviewing their watches...in another year they’ll be one of the best sellers on AliExpress...SM are great but they are making some mistakes, like making larger than average watches and pushing their prices up too much. This should leave space for Cronos to steal market share as long as they listen to the feedback!
@jacc88888 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilikewatches Yes, good point. I forget they have only been going a short while. I’m looking forward to seeing what new models they will be bringing out this year.
@andrewmain8022 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, Gary, there is no doubt that the San Martin pips the rest but is it worth twice as much as the Pagani PD1661 Explorer. My opinion for what it is worth is yes but only if it had a glide-lock stile bracelet.
@benjamr68 3 жыл бұрын
Again, I have the PD-1661 and you can buy the glide-lock clasps on AliExpress for around £10 (US$14) that fit on the PD-1661 bracelet.
@andrewmain8022 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjamr68 Thanks for that Richard but can you get one for the San Martin
@benjamr68 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewmain8022 Not sure. I guess it would be a case of taking very careful measurements and then checking the dimensions in the specifications on AliExpress.
@MADHIKER777 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison with spectacular pics!
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@wed265 3 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. I bought the San Martin and resold it because I could not stand the new hexagon logo. Since then I purchased the cronos about 2 weeks ago. Now I wish I would have waited to get the one with the no line around the date. Please tell me your opinion about the cronos vs San Martin and the line around date. Thank you for your time. Ray USA
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer it even with the frame, the San Martin is incredible but it’s big and chunky, the Cronos is more delicate and refined....
@RA-ce8ks 18 күн бұрын
My steeldive tuna that Ive owned for 2-3 years is accurate, has solid bezel action is all round well made however the crown thread slowly started getting worn out and eventually didn't screw in anymore. It was easy to get parts and I replaced it myself (I'm not a watch mechanic)
@Dirkga 3 жыл бұрын
Cool comparison Gary. Just on a side note. Is there already any news on the new J&G watch ? (i want to order one 😁 ) 😉
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
Not yet other than James is still working on the bracelet! It's is a huge challenge, 5 links with taper so he is needing to spend longer than we thought getting it sorted.
@Dirkga 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary, I will wait in anticipation 👍😉
@breaktime3269 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks Gary
@dainluke Жыл бұрын
I dunno if Cronos have a trademark on their brand, but they picked the coolest name and they have the coolest logo. Whether printed or applied, they did really well with their branding.
@ilikewatches 10 ай бұрын
Thank you…..viewers of my channel selected the name and with the help of a viewer he and I designed the logo so I appreciate the feedback 😬
@dainluke 10 ай бұрын
@@ilikewatches I actually literally just came across a review of yours where you mentioned this haha. Timing is crazy.
@fr0d0scious 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video again. I love this series to death. Shocking about the Tisell. I'm thinking they're getting long in the tooth and not updating their quality and instead resting on their laurels from past success.
@bruh_oly1370 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly well put. They savour on the past success of decent reviews on KZfaq and the microfollowers . But as he said they gave no follow up for customer care and explicitly state that you can not return them due to QC issues . Wow
@-Dash- 3 жыл бұрын
I think I like the Chronos best
@waris3732 3 жыл бұрын
Gary I think that steeldive have a kind of version 2 on their sub homage. The one with a lazer engraved logo on the caseback I've been told has a better bezel action Also Gary I have the V3 san martin and there is NO back play. Bought it on 11.11 so I think that bezel is faulty by their standards
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
That spring loaded element on the SM exists on all my recent san martin watches, it feels intentional so i'm not sure i'd call it back play, it's more spring loaded
@ProblemChild-xk7ix 7 ай бұрын
Rating watches mostly based on bezel action and feel seems a little silly since most people only use the bezel for looks.
@ilikewatches 7 ай бұрын
It’s helps to build up a picture of the overall quality of a watch.
@alexi21san Жыл бұрын
I find Cronos to be the best considering I own San Martin,Cronos and steeldive and I can compare between them .
@josemavalmateu791 3 жыл бұрын
San Martin is the one, quality and price is spot on. NH35 is boring but Swiss brands also bore me with SW200. I regret to have missed the opportunity to buy the Seiko Marine Master SBDX001, with the 8L35 movement. That is to me "the watch"
@ChrisLoew 8 ай бұрын
San Martin vs cronos, where would you spend your money and why?
@toniodomene 2 жыл бұрын
i cant find the clasp video. can you give a link?
@soggz4246 Жыл бұрын
😂
@scbr2458 3 жыл бұрын
what's the music at 8:30? great video!
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
All music in my videos is from the KZfaq library
@snacklofter 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gary - you are like an investigative David Attenborough for the watch community! atb snack.
@pdmotors5027 3 жыл бұрын
It just goes to show that spending a lot of money, does not necessarily buy you a quality watch.
@Buck380 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t help but wonder, in terms of a water mark for comparison sake, what would a Rolex or Tudor bezel action feel like? If they are “grail” watches how do our value for money favorites compare?
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
I went into a shop and turned one......I handed it back and said, I think there's a problem with this bezel........:)
@Buck380 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilikewatches well that’s encouraging news for our value watches. When I used to work as a diver, I was picky about the bezel action because when you’re in the water and your fingers are cold and wet, it’s really hard to turn the bezel. And with cold water gloves on you might was well forget it. So it is an important feature in my opinion, at least for watches that are actually used for diving.
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
I can imagine simple tasks become a whole different level when you’re cold and at deep depths.
@stefpix Жыл бұрын
@@ilikewatches you can just get your hand wet with cold water from the faucet, and get the watch wet as well. Then try to turn the bezel. For me it was almost impossible with the Orient Mako, a lot easier with the Seiko Monster kind of bezel. It is a simple test no one does on KZfaq when they talk about dive watches. The bezel should extend a little over the case.
@Trollet532 3 жыл бұрын
what is your favourite bezel action of all time?
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
Phoibos PY007C! Incredible
@stan-ut5gj Жыл бұрын
I have many seikos and 1 steeldive,the steeldive is the best watch,.the bezel is rock solid,I can wind it up and stop it,it has great lume,and a sapphire crystal,compared to the sd the seikos are a rip off, especially the SKs.
@WERT2025 2 ай бұрын
In this year (2024) I bought same style addiesdive, quartz, for 35$. Rock solid bezel, no noticeable play. Bracelet is not very pleasing though.
@agus8251 3 жыл бұрын
Bezel insert in my San Martín is not a good as my Heimdallr, for sure.
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
Id love to see some pics to get an idea of how them compare because I know that there are good and bad examples of all these watches out there so i would love to see some pictures of how you see them oldmantimegary@gmail.com
@YuriUK 10 ай бұрын
San Martin was my number one pick as well.
@almasmeiram8463 3 жыл бұрын
Good job Sir
@Trex100 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks 😊
@maff1975 3 жыл бұрын
8:42 the tisell is labelled heimdallr
@ilikewatches 3 жыл бұрын
Good spot!......too late to change it sadly but hopefully people will get the right watch
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