Im Done With Flat Wheel setups for Aggressive Inline JadRollerVlog Rollerblading

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JADRollerVlog

JADRollerVlog

2 жыл бұрын

I think I am going to stick with the anti rocker wheel setup when it comes to aggressive inline.
I tried flat setup again and while I love how it rides I just don't like it for grinding. For me and the way I blade and what I blade on flat is just more fun.
The park ledges here get really slow. No one likes to wax them and that makes flat grinding even more difficult.
I am tired of trying to find the right flat setup that checks all the boxes. For now I am staying anti rocker.

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@djrealyouth5499
@djrealyouth5499 2 жыл бұрын
This video represents a trend I see a lot in Rollerblading these days.. People buying all sorts of different frames and wheels, switching set ups frequently and experimenting with everything in a rapid fire kind of way, and then seeming to be more confused about what set up they prefer afterwards. Honestly, I think you're a good enough skater that if you just choose a set up and go with it... Pick a frame, stick with anti or flat, but pick one, even pick a wheel size and shape and stick with that.. Put in a solid year on that set up, whatever it may be. I don't think any set up checks all the boxes, but there's so many set ups, many of which you tried in the last few months, that are thoroughly enjoyable. As far as reviewing products on youtube and whatnot, focusing on testing one product for a prolonged period of time is crucial to providing a meaningful review. Everybody goes through the adjustment periods when changing big things on their skates... It's cool to hear about that adjustment period of the individual in the review, but how someone feels about the product after adjusting to it and using it regularly is the real info most are looking for.
@NOISlights
@NOISlights 2 жыл бұрын
I feel ya man I have so many frame setups and boots and so far after everything I am now rolling tri rocker with a chroma anti-rocker in wheel 2 and I’m gravy now.
@therealforestelf
@therealforestelf 2 жыл бұрын
old guy mentality but actually kind of true. most of the time my skating just got better because of my laziness to change up the setup depending on my "needs" for the session. e.g. flat for ledges, freestyle for pipe etc. I think the industry lives from having people buy 20 skates & 50 frames & 30 wheel setups :'D per year - 10 of these folks get you the money you get out of 100 newcomers buying 1 skate & setup per year xD
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 2 жыл бұрын
For me it's because I just like playing with gear. It's more of a gear obsession and then fomo when there's other gear I haven't tried ha ha
@phantommaggotxxx
@phantommaggotxxx 2 жыл бұрын
This comment nailed it... You're spending WAY too much money messing around... Save the money, get out and skate and practice. You can't buy your game. IMO, get a set of fluid Vs, mount em to the skate you're most comfortable in and just skate. Stay on that set up for a while.. don't be switching up non stop. You'll be forced to get better. Pretend to have less money lol..
@CosmykTheDolfyn
@CosmykTheDolfyn 2 жыл бұрын
I feel this so much as well. I live in a country where you can't just ship in new parts whenever you want and there are no shops. I've been rolling some Roces Yuto Goto Fifth Elements forever, with the cuffs held together by tape and string, old Razors liners becuase I wore through the Roces liners, riding flat on some Roces frames with mismatching wheels. I never really rode flat before, but I learned after a few weeks. I love it now. I can't imagine having the money or ability to get frames whenever you want, all your skates/frames look better than brand new.
@louistorres
@louistorres 2 жыл бұрын
I was a pro skater back in 1995 and seeing these skaters today, it's mindblowing how great they are! It also seems like inlining is making a comeback!
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome!!!!!!!! Dude hop back on the train!!!!!!
@louistorres
@louistorres 2 жыл бұрын
@@jadrollervlog I would have to start by just inlining again! Haha! Back then, I was the first non-Roces sponsored skater in the United States to have the Roces Majestic 12 skates that I bought from my boy Frankie Lascovio for $50 who road for them at the time. Hahaha! The guys from Daily Bread and XSkate magazine used to stay at my house when they made their way to NYC. Such a fun time.
@f1exso
@f1exso 9 ай бұрын
I've just started riding a 65mm bullet anti rocker set up on flt3s and they are great!
@AggressiveInlineDiary
@AggressiveInlineDiary 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I'm 2020 also the whole year drove the USD Aeons Flat but it just felt so good afterwards to drive anti-rocker again. Once again a very successful video. I'm always waiting for your next uploads, from you one can learn so much. Keep it up!
@pogoSK8
@pogoSK8 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see that not everyone sees flat as the ultimate way to skate. Personally, I grind a lot and get along better with freestyle or anti setups. Atm I prefer to change skates as needed. Btw another endboss skill episode. ✌️
@jasoncalva
@jasoncalva 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that virtually none of your frames have the grooves broken in, which will always skew how they ride out of the box vs being broken in. Much of the groove height issues you were feeling in the Oysi medium chassis goes away once you have a session on a curb just to break in the royale grooves a bit. Also if you have multiple setups for different obstacles that might work for you too. Keep an anti setup for ledges, and a flat setup for bowls and transitions. Great skating, editing, and content as usual!
@ThirtyandRollin
@ThirtyandRollin 2 жыл бұрын
You're a rail/ledge dancer, I'm surprised you stayed flat this long haha!
@thenightspydercollector8066
@thenightspydercollector8066 Жыл бұрын
Good use of session clips to give product/point purposefulness 👍
@xt6274
@xt6274 2 жыл бұрын
Super informative vid and rad skating! FLT3 all the way for me.
@Semiresponsible
@Semiresponsible 2 жыл бұрын
Well you definitely proved you can ride flat if you want to. Great breakdown on your gear preferences (and great skating). Would love to see your reaction to 50/50 Prime frames at some point
@konnyknees
@konnyknees 2 жыл бұрын
woah dude, was not expecting such an awesome video. great content! subscribed :)
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!!! Wow such kind words!
@nitemirror1
@nitemirror1 2 жыл бұрын
i was flabbergasted that people who wanted to grind started putting real wheels in the middle again. my thoughts were that it was a bunch of kids who didn’t grow up chunking out on a royale skating street. i adjusted to flat in the end because i basically can’t have small wheels, and i’m tired of buying $40 of wheels every few months. everyone who transitions to flat loses grinds. at my age these days i don’t care. i’d rather hit a huge soul on something big then 360 into a grind on something small.
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 2 жыл бұрын
I get it totally! I don't burn through wheels super quick but I do enjoy the smooth ride of flat.
@benadams8525
@benadams8525 2 жыл бұрын
haha I just came to the same conclusion. Been riding 55mm Redeye on Kizer Fluid V and honestly love it, but just don't want to overthink every time I approached a ledge, and the flat 55 was slower than my 60mm anti setup. Could be bearings I suppose though. I ride razors shifts so I'm keeping the flat setup around if I end up changing my mind :-)
@alexanderbrechtl8448
@alexanderbrechtl8448 2 жыл бұрын
Flat or anti...at the end of the day it comes down to what you feel most comfortably on. Don't get caught up (too much) in hypes & focus on what works best for you. :) P.S.: cool & insightful video!
@chris_371
@chris_371 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised no one mentioned using 95a for the middle wheels. Sick skating btw!
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog Жыл бұрын
I tried that on the frames. It definitely helps. I still love a good flat setup. THEM frames are most enjoyable for me for that. At one point I road all 58 95 dead wheels and it was fast and fun! But if Im trying grinds I'm not used to or confident with, ant is the way for me
@remyhendrikse6450
@remyhendrikse6450 Жыл бұрын
What brand do you get for 95a wheels? My Kryptonics 96a are great can't find them in stores anymore.
@chris_371
@chris_371 Жыл бұрын
@@remyhendrikse6450 Dead wheels
@chrisrobertson7987
@chrisrobertson7987 2 жыл бұрын
I love seeing oak city sticker in so many rollerblading videos. I'm so proud of Long lol
@dontstack9270
@dontstack9270 2 жыл бұрын
I love the A.P FL/\T frames, pricey but worth it. I have big wheel kaltiks too when I want to get sloppy.
@ryrod
@ryrod 2 жыл бұрын
Second the aluminum core wheels that Tim mentioned! I have a hockey background and enjoyed flat for a while too. Now that I'm older I'd prefer not to stick and die so I went back to anti rocker. I tried the 60mm 88a undercover Apex wheels at an indoor park and my blade life was instantly changed. I didn't miss flat at all. Great speed while having that anti rocker peace of mind. I have 64mm 90a Famus wheels for outdoor parks and those are amazing too.
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think I need to try both these wheels. They sound so fun!!!!!
@marcbenjamin6841
@marcbenjamin6841 2 жыл бұрын
I came here for your message and didn't want to see the action... until I saw the action. Your tech skills are off the bearings.
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend that's a huge compliment! Thank you!!!!!
@Dawe957
@Dawe957 2 жыл бұрын
I admire your patience going through all this 🤣
@sweetgoose64
@sweetgoose64 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be really interested in you trying something like the Kaltik v1 flat with 55mm. But understandable that you're back on anti. Great skating!
@ninjamagic5150
@ninjamagic5150 2 жыл бұрын
You have some sick moves I've never seen. Getting back into. It. Just need to figure out a good setup for some serious riding
@yingyangfeet
@yingyangfeet 2 жыл бұрын
I been freestyle and anti rocker for 17 years. masterblade frames have the sweetspot of flat with anti rocker. A plus is they are wicked fast on all grinds.
@vinceamir7236
@vinceamir7236 2 жыл бұрын
Anti for 22 years, new to flat 55mm to 58mm and i love it. But i always have a anti-rocker setup with me. I love the stability of anti-rocker and i love the flat-rocker to be easier on my knee. If i roll im just happy!!!!
@apexpredator_jku
@apexpredator_jku Жыл бұрын
I've always been an antirocker guy since the genesis...box cars with midgets. I've tinkered with flat on occasion but never really worked out for me. Now I'm coming back to blading after an 8 year hiatus & with the advent of skates such as the Aeon I figured I'd give it another go. Supposedly wheel bite & flat is all but a thing of the past or so the story goes. My very first attempt at a grind after my hiatus...boom, bit the dust on a ledge. Then I tried to remedy that with a harder durometer for middle wheels but still maintaining 60mm on all 4. Better but still eatin' ish 1 out of 3-4x. I'm not a spring chicken anymore so that's not feasible. Then tried bullet profile wheels. Success rate with those I could live with but rolling around feels wonky to me. So I finally said screw this flat ish & got me some Moonshine antirockers. Now I got folks telling me, "that defeats the purpose of Aeons". yeah, yeah...I know but whatever. Antirocker has always worked for me. I never felt the need where it was imperitive to go flat. Long story short, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
@marcusharrison2569
@marcusharrison2569 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, I needed to see this to confirm the anti rocker setup as I'm a beginner with the Aeon 60s and mainly focused on aggressive grind style skating
@kevinkev1530
@kevinkev1530 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid
@JSClark1984
@JSClark1984 2 жыл бұрын
Great video dude. 👍
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend!
@EddyReckless
@EddyReckless 2 жыл бұрын
I used to slide with flt2 but tried fluid v and i love it.
@BladerReboot
@BladerReboot 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode! Very insightful on different frames and wheel setups. I recently ventured from my Aeons to try UFS and I’ve found the Kizer Fluid Vs are solid for flat. I’m riding them 55mm flat and I don’t think it’s possible to get wheel bite. I’m beginner level though and haven’t tried complex grinds. Seems that they wouldn’t be too good for Flowey switch ups though. Once you’re locked in the groove, it’s like you’re on a train track 😁🙌
@dev_with_me
@dev_with_me 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been thinking about switching from aeons to them. How has your transition been so far?
@BladerReboot
@BladerReboot 2 жыл бұрын
@@dev_with_me so far it’s been an easy transition! I feel like you have to be a little more precise when locking, and the frame feels a hair taller. It’s been more of a mental game for me. It’s almost impossible to miss on Aeons. I had the fluid Vs set up anti-rocker at first… that was a mistake. If you miss the H-block you’ll grind on the wheel bite protection next to the anti-rocker wheel. Haven’t had that issue since switching to 55mm flat. They also feel very solid and have good power transfer. They feel almost as fast as my aeons, just rolling around.
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 2 жыл бұрын
@@BladerReboot that's probably the route I would go or those sick Entente Goods Diridari But they are super expensive!
@BladerReboot
@BladerReboot 2 жыл бұрын
@@jadrollervlog I didn’t have a clue what frames those were so I just looked them up. They seem to be pretty similar looking to the fluid Vs. Id recommend getting some Vs to mess around with since they are pretty cheap and built like a tank 😁
@shawndecastro8457
@shawndecastro8457 2 жыл бұрын
Kizer fluid v are dope rockin 61s on there. definitely a lot more speed you don't have to pump or stride much.
@oghomelesskid
@oghomelesskid 2 жыл бұрын
those winter bails hit different!
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhhhhh yes they do! Everything hurts more especially after when you thaw out.
@andrewwinkelmeyer6503
@andrewwinkelmeyer6503 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard the entente frames for flat are pretty much the best way to go. They are expensive though. Shipping to the US and the cost of the frame is pretty much the same cost as a cheap boot only. $200 I think.
@patrick_jones
@patrick_jones 2 жыл бұрын
Stoked to see that 68mm fit on THEM Street Frame. I've been rolling around lately casually on GC HD80s which has been super fun. But then switched back to Dead 58mm/Anti recently for a park session which felt really strange. I tried 50/50 65mm/Anti as well, which felt a bit faster but still nothing like the 80's. Curious if a more bullet profile like the UC/Iqon 68mm might feel good in an anti set up! Thanks for all your experimentation and willingness to share!
@simongloutnez589
@simongloutnez589 11 ай бұрын
Try those Oysi frames ! They are a ROCKERED yes ROCKERED agressive frame with a huge Hblock. They can fit 72mm wheels on the back and front and 60mm wheels in the middle around that Hblock that kind of extend and wrap around the wheels. Those big wheels make it hard for certain types of grind. But it really improve my transitions and stability since I can go faster and still make sharp turns. It helps since Im from big wheels and started agressive skating in my late 20s
@Avedisdrummer09
@Avedisdrummer09 2 жыл бұрын
If you get a chance to try an aluminum core 60mm anti-rocker set up, you can recover a very noticeable amount of speed. I've tried the Famus, Core UK, UC Apex, and Moonshine White Lightning and all of them function about the same. Really fast!
@slugstory
@slugstory 2 жыл бұрын
I usually skate 58mm for anti, is 60 still pretty cozy?
@slugstory
@slugstory 2 жыл бұрын
The aluminum cores look siiiick
@okthisisthelasttimeipromise
@okthisisthelasttimeipromise 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying this. Excited to try it out.
@javier5361
@javier5361 2 жыл бұрын
sweet skating
@aBudSmoker22
@aBudSmoker22 2 жыл бұрын
That deep fish had me losing my mind.
@lachlanhayes6364
@lachlanhayes6364 Жыл бұрын
I’m going through this now, frame and wheel setup crisis! But I also like experimenting and experiencing different options and gear. Great video!
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 10 ай бұрын
It is fun experimenting and it all boils down to preference. Whatever setup is the most enjoyable for the locations you skate and your personal style.
@bobbobertbobberton1073
@bobbobertbobberton1073 11 ай бұрын
I've never ridden a flat, been skating on and off since the 90's and I'm finally gonna try a flat set up, even though the cost of an extra set on wheels and bearings sucks. Want to see what its like.
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 10 ай бұрын
It is definitely a way better riding experience. But you're going to find the opposite problem that most do. Since you're so used to the train track feel, a flat setup feels almost too swervy. I find when I ride flat on big ramps I feel a little bit out of control. That's typically the opposite of what everybody says though.
@tawmifm
@tawmifm 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, could you elaborate on what you meant by the 68mm on the Oysi being "too tall?" I'm considering that setup for my first set of skates and I'm not sure if I want to go through with it. Thank you!
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 2 жыл бұрын
The frame and wheel combo just felt really high off the ground. When I put 68s on them Street frames it doesn't feel as high.
@justjordan8018
@justjordan8018 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy Rollerblading has turned in to an Adult Man Hobby. We started collecting garbage and comparing it's size with others online.
@JFomo
@JFomo 2 жыл бұрын
What if the the inner wheels could be made out of a different material that didn't bite so much. I'm not sure what that material would be but you could still have a flat set up with less bite. Or maybe thinner inner wheels so there'd be less chance of bite but still have a flat ride?
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people ride harder middle wheels for that reason or they skate tapered wheels. I have tried the harder wheels. If you wax the ledge good bite isn't much of a problem especially for these 55mm 92a UC wheels. It's those dry slow ledges that will get yah.
@JD-xo2wz
@JD-xo2wz Жыл бұрын
We used to have these little solid UHMW antirocker wheels back in the day, maybe made by Senate? (My old guy brain can't remember) They were faster than the stuff most soul frames were made of, and just killed on fat ledges and coping. I'd be skating anti right now if I could still find some of those wheels... but I'm really a freestyle kinda guy at the end of the day. RIP Senate, SixWonSix, EMAGDNIM, ABLE, Salomon, Xsjado, and all the others.
@cornholeyourmom
@cornholeyourmom 2 жыл бұрын
For me, the small creates are too short, the large is too long. The small Them street frames and small Roces Street frames are prefect for me.
@IconML
@IconML Жыл бұрын
Seems like where you live it snows every month of the year..
@cbfm4746
@cbfm4746 2 жыл бұрын
We're you using oysi mediums on the pat ridders? I've got the ridders with oysi mediums 65mm outer and 58mm and don't get much wheel bite.
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 2 жыл бұрын
No it wasn't wheel bite on the Oysi. It was the hight of the frame for me. They slide amazing! Those are the best bigger wheel flat frames that I have tried.
@cbfm4746
@cbfm4746 2 жыл бұрын
@@jadrollervlog yes I agree. Getting down on royale are like REALLY getting down on royales 😂
@sullivandeffinger4970
@sullivandeffinger4970 7 ай бұрын
Sonic wax is so good. Hard to find now tho cuz I think its out of production. Smells like blueberries.
@calvinelamparo3936
@calvinelamparo3936 11 ай бұрын
First time i skated flat was in 2005 and i got a wheel bite and got a bruise on my back amd ever since then I prefer anti rockers all the way
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 10 ай бұрын
For grinding it's definitely better and more freeing. I've tried so many flat setups and I always get wheel bite at some point or another. If the ledge is nice and waxed it's not a problem. You have to really wax up your ledge no matter what flat setup you use. Then if you start using setups with a lot of wheel bite protection, The grind area feels too tall in my opinion. To be quite honest the best flat frame I ever used was the them street frame. It felt like a very sweet balance.
@JustAnotherBlader
@JustAnotherBlader Жыл бұрын
I thought Create originals were 59mm max on the outside wheel… you fit a 60mm wheel no adjustments?
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog Жыл бұрын
60 totally fine on the large size Create OG with Medium 909 outside wheels only
@savvysadventures9950
@savvysadventures9950 2 жыл бұрын
try aeon 60s best light skate responsive like a carbon
@maxknuckles13
@maxknuckles13 10 ай бұрын
It prob shouldn't matter but I've always found big wheel anti setups to just look too goofy
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 10 ай бұрын
They are kind of goofy looking. A flat setup definitely looks more pleasant.
@samolhok930
@samolhok930 Жыл бұрын
oysi shine on razors with deeper channels making them lower
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog Жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhhhh great point. I use to have the SL boot. Been wanting to try the shift 2.
@masterofnone1481
@masterofnone1481 Жыл бұрын
Is it bad to skate flat frames with an anti rocker setup?
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog Жыл бұрын
That's an awesome question actually. What frames are we talking about? Honestly whatever gets you the grinds and is most enjoyable to skate!
@masterofnone1481
@masterofnone1481 Жыл бұрын
@@jadrollervlog Kizer Fluid V. I’m new, so I’m genuinely curious... I also heard that’s one of the unwritten rules of blading 🤣🤣🤣
@shawndecastro8457
@shawndecastro8457 2 жыл бұрын
Those are anti rocker frames. And when your flat frames get a big groove like that transition them to anti rocker.
@FEV369
@FEV369 Жыл бұрын
Lol, are all skaters 30+ now?
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog Жыл бұрын
I think we out number 30 - bladers ha ha
@jefforta4717
@jefforta4717 2 жыл бұрын
I'm done with flat because of wheel bite. Here's a bunch of clips of me not getting wheel bite riding flat. Every trick you bailed was because you missed, not the setup.
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 2 жыл бұрын
This is very true. I wasn't blaming my crashes on wheel bite or flat setups by any means. It was definitely poor skills. But flat messes with my confidence on ledges. That's all. But that's my opinion. Some people feel the exact opposite. Also anti rocker is a little more friendly when it comes to maintenance or if you like to tinker a lot like me.
@jefforta4717
@jefforta4717 2 жыл бұрын
@@jadrollervlog I get it, I just thought it was funny. Wheel bite has made me try anti again and I just hate the way it feels. I think you skate great on flat, but I get mental aspect of having confidence in your setup.
@johndye6497
@johndye6497 Жыл бұрын
Thing is other than the oysi frames none of these are really good for flat get a fluid v or flt4 would be way ahead to start with
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog Жыл бұрын
Tried both. Fluid V is great but too tall for me. Honestly THEM frames have been my favorite for flat.
@savvysadventures9950
@savvysadventures9950 2 жыл бұрын
sonic wax sucks :0
@giovanniamore7532
@giovanniamore7532 Жыл бұрын
if ýou can do ýour grinds flat, ýou can do them anti too.. if ýou can do them "onlý" anti, ýou cant do them flat.. that mý friends saýs it all.. 😄
@jojebia1648
@jojebia1648 8 ай бұрын
ok, bye.
@jadrollervlog
@jadrollervlog 8 ай бұрын
Wait don't go! I promise I'll do the dishes more often!
@jojebia1648
@jojebia1648 8 ай бұрын
It's called a dishwasher :) @@jadrollervlog
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