Original 7th Fleet Video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f6eierBh0p-qoJ8.html *SORRY for the audio POPS in the video. I am trying a new mic and haven't got a pop shield for it yet.

The thing that makes this channel so special imo is how Cap deals with recommendations, how he actually reads the comments interacts with his community and improve after every single video.👍

I think having the F-35s with murder load was the difference in the bombers not making it to firing range. Last time the F-35s quickly ran out of missiles before they were able to take everything out. We had to wait for the land launched planes coming from Japan to finish off the bombers.

At this point we have seen two foiled attempts at attacking the7th fleet. It would be interesting to see how a retaliatory strike against Chinese military targets would fare.

Cap, until DCS gets functional subs in game, the results will always be way off reality. Regardless, I'm not even a DCS player, but I love watching your scenarios play out. Kudos to your human pilots as well.

Chinese missiles running out of batteries before hitting is probably the funniest thing I've seen on this channel (might be the most realistic too :P)

It always seems at least one human can't seem to follow instructions. Turn back before you get in range and go west... continues into area after a specific reminder, then goes North. AI is not the only one that can't figure it out.

Yeah all those PL-15s just being launched at 2 planes and most of them missing them and other targets just ruined it all.

Hey guys love these videos keep them up! A couple of quick things: the only Marine Corps Aviation assets that are permanently stationed on Okinawa are two Osprey squadrons (262 and 265) so there are no JSF's stationed there. The two VMFA squadrons in Japan (121 and 242) are stationed up in Iwakuni so they could be on an LHA/LHD if it was sailing with the fleet. The 40 JSF's you have at Kadena need to be switched to F-15's from the two Air Force squadrons (44 and 67) that are stationed there. Doesn't seem like they would make that much difference though as by the time they get to the fight it would be over, but hey you never know. Last thing, the make up of the Carrier Air Wing is too big. I know you addressed the lack of Growlers which is due to the limitations of the game itself, but the fighters aboard a carrier are usually only 4 squadrons worth. Obviously that can be easily changed and if they were purposely going to Taiwan in an act of defiance they could certainly make the decision to carry more fighters. These realistic simulation videos are awesome keep it up!

Hello hope you guys are having a great day

Love these relatively realistic scenarios hope you keep them coming

Cap this was great..can't wait to see you redo some more of the old carrier battles with the new tech. Thank you.

I F@!&ing LOVE the Grim Reapers!!!! 🙌🏻

Can we just appreciate that a video of a sim game had the soul of a historical WW2 pacific style war story fight? The two F-18's in the beginning basically giving the rest of the squadrons a fighting chance, the Chinese tech coming up short on the initial attack. This battle has a better plot than anything Hollywood gives us.

I had the biggest grin on my face when Cap said "Lets run the fight again even bigger and better" then I reached for the popcorn! 👍

The biggest thing here is the PL15s just not being able to get kills on the F18s. Check the number of bailed out pilots from the 36th minute or so of the video and you'll see that either the 18s are superhuman in their notching or (more likely) the PL15 needs a bit of work.

I love ur videos but I’ve noticed ALOT of bias as expected, but I would honestly appreciate a real and fair fight. The pl-15 is a newer and better missile with a longer range than the aim-120D. Infact america is makin the aim-260 cause of china’s pl-15. I’ll love a redo with a pl-15 buff. Average numbers from wikipedia (I KNOW WIKIPEDIA IS NOT A RELIABLE SOURCE) state that the pl-15 range is 155miles; while the aim-120D range is 96 miles. I suggest watching covert cables video on why america is laking in the long range missile category. But nice video tho !

This was a great sim. You made it as fair as possible and let the dice roll. Well done!

Awesome! never seen so many missiles. That was a total fest of entertainment thank you all.

Found you guys a couple weeks ago and I am loving it!!!!!

really appreciate how much effort you put into your videos. the fact that u read the comments and made a whole new video just for the comments as well is just insane. keep up the hard work fella!

@44:59 Cap's evil laught😄 "That's muh boi's, that's muh boi's."

This was surely one of the most amazing videos! I could almost imagine sitting in one of those jets looking at all those missiles, jets, and all the madness.... Great video! 3rd time watching this video!

I’m a little irritated how the AIM-120D had similar performance to the PL-15 in DCS, as the PL-15 is supposed to have be dual pulsed and have a longer no escape zone.

When the F35's have fired their weapons from the pylons can they dump the pylons and become fully stealthy? It would be a great tactical advantage as they can continue to advance, whilst the foe avoids the incoming, and fire their internal missiles at a much closer range at higher value targets.

The only realism in this battle is the wave of Pl-15's...

Thank you for all the hard work you and the boys and lady do. Cap cares about his " valued viewers " and reads the comments. He gets me everytime with the " sip of tea " lol. Love the Brits and sending love from USA

Best Fight Ever. GR continues to out-do itself. Thanks and cheers to Cap and all the Boys!

"Anything else?" "Murica"

"that's the price you gotta pay if you want murder" - Cap 😂 That giant exchange of missiles was pornographic 🔥🔥🔥 probably my favorite GR vid yet!

Much respect for the effort expended tweaking the missiles.

35:19 - Cap's brain suffers a blue screen of death.

Something about all the batteries failing somehow seemed realistic...

Let's assume Chinese actually fire PL-15s at operational range with battery, AND coordinated targets across flights. Different battle I think

@CAP I've been enjoying all these great videos. Thank you for putting them out there for us. I'm in Civil Air Patrol, and we had 20 Cadets learning combat maneuvers in DCS last weekend. It's not surprising that the Cadets beat the grown-ups every time... including some former USAF pilots.

EPIC! That is all, carry on as you were.

"Would you like to play a nice game of chess?"

Really nice vid once again. It's a shame the AI is acting kinda stupid like firing dozens of missiles at 2 planes, but you can't really do anything about that. The PL15's also seem to be nerfed or something, they were missing like crazy here.

Limit the first fire distance per Chinese flight incrementally, so as to give a more varied targeting probability. After all, as long as they get their missiles off before being hit themselves, they will then have been an effective asset.

so damn cool, absolutely love your channel!!!

The one thing you never model in-game is a CAP for the fleet. Depending on the political scenario the CAP could be covered by the fleet itself but more likely in this scenario, the Air Force from Okinawa would provide CAP for the fleet so the fleet deck crew does not get worn out and is prepared for extended shifts should a military escalation occur.

The biggest thing that irks me is how small the chinese force is. Like it's the 7th fleet I would expect at least twice as many chinese planes minimum

Great videos mate, thanks 🙏

35:18 Cheezus chruust on a pogo stick that is a ton of missiles in the air. What a terrifying and beautiful sight. Well done all around! this is some serious work you all have done here.

The two Super Hornets flying escort for the northern AWACS contributed heavily to the outcome IMO. They drew a ridiculous number of PL-15s out against two targets, but there were plenty of targets for all their AMRAAMs. Then, as you realized at the end, when it looked like China was winning for a while the Americans were steadily putting more planes in the air as fast as China could knock them down. Plus America got lucky keeping the one AWACS.

That was fantastic. Just beautiful.

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Love your stuff guys!

This was excellent! Epic battle!

The Chinese will not merely rely on land and sea based radars. It will rely mainly on sattelites. The launch of multiple land based missiles will be immediately detected by american/european/ japanese/ S. Korean sattelites as well. I'd say, the Chinese will use its militia fishing fleet to launch some of the anti-ship missiles to cut the striking distance.

Hey cap, I’m just getting into DCS from hours of experience flying in arma games, and other FPS games with vehicles, ships, artillery, ships, infantry, and drones etc. If you need someone to fly a harrier or a fighter with a full payload of anti ship missiles, or a payload of dummy missiles that will be fired to be diversions, that way real accurate ship killers will have a higher chance of not getting shot down. I’ll even fly a B2 spirit bomber to even drop a low yield nuke, or a entire payload of cluster bombs set to blow up at different altitudes, to cover a wide area and hopefully hit any missiles that are out to shoot down friendly. Also, Japan has nuclear warheads pointed and targeted at set locations in China. So realistically if our fleet got attacked, the Americans stationed at the secret locations will go down into the bunkers, and wait for orders on firing those warheads. True story my buddy was first stationed there when he just joined the chair force, and if the commanding officer didn’t get them to stand down. They would’ve launched all nuclear warheads by accident and caused WW3. Anyway, I’ll describe my background, and what military experience I have in real world. Just a little hint on what I used to do, I used to work with new CTACs who I had fun training and with TACPs who I’d learn something’s from. OIF-OEF 03-12(7 tours) 10years before I got out, and 8 years to get 100% P&T disability. Anyway I live in hawaii and will be happy to play an OP4 or being an extra guy that will divert attention, and launch an entire payload at a high ALT to throw off defense’s, or fly a huge airbus with a modified payload or chaff/flare for evade. I’ll fly one to pull all agro to throw off the opposite sides force, and hope everyone wants to target the huge plane that looks like a giant bomber lol. Hahah my 64Gb DRR5 and 12 Gb GDDR6X 3080ti would love viewing all of this action.

Well done Grim Reapers.

Woah thanks for picking up recommendations and applying it you tried to make it as realistic as you can.

45:43 lol it'd be a "Conflict" ;) 46:51& 2:43 again perhaps having them attack from multiple directions and in smaller waves as well instead of one big blob would help Plus the 2:43 problem that's two reasons to try this👍

The previous USS America CV-66 WAS a oil powered CV of the Kitty Hawk class. She was decommission in 1996 and used for weapons testing and damage testing against a carrier in 2005.

That was amazing to watch 💪🏿🤜🏿

35:00 onwards reminds me of scenes from Robotech. IRL deconfliction would be better due to better comms between pilots and AWACS controllers. "Public Server" = no control of battlespace as everybody is out for indvidual glory rather than sticking to a set mission and actually following orders.

Great video as always. Below, I basically just agree with your conclusion at the end of the video. The one thing I really wanted to see is how the Aegis network handled those anti-ship missiles! It would be awesome if you take that 7th fleet with all of those cruisers and destroyers and see if it can defend that attack. For visual purposes, I think it would look awesome if the missiles came in from 360 degrees and time-on-target. I was going to say exactly what you said at the end. The limitation right now lies in DCS AI and in particular the modeling of realistic logistics/battle management/datalink. While I don't know this for a fact, I can only assume the US takes their air superiority very seriously and that would mean planning/training for the possibility of huge aerial battles involving many dozens of plans on both sides. In such a scenario, I don't see how the USAF and USN would simply ignore the issue of optimizing their targets given the total number of missiles they can carry. In fact, I'm sure such strategies are worked on by running their own internal war games and testing various parameters/outcomes with real-world decision-making and load-outs. Since the US has such an emphasis on high-quality radar, electronic warfare, AWACS, command & control, and so, I believe they will definitely have software-assisted decision trees to specify in very short timeframes to decide which pilots should fire, along with the selected missile/proper range, and specific target. When we see the rudimentary radar and targeting systems modeled in DCS you effectively select a target manually (with the capability to select multiple targets for ripple salvos) and send it. This method dates back to the 1970s/1980s, so I have to believe their methods for target selection and distribution are much more advanced at present.

that was fantastic 👏 👌. great to watch, hopefully never happens.

That’s such an awesome scenario Cap!! Great work to all the reapers! Can you do a big Chinese or Russian carrier group against seventh fleet cap?

It would be pretty cool to see potentially more hypothetical forces in different scenarios in the future, like a future Royal Navy w the new type 26, type 31 and 32 frigates coming soon, maybe someday if they get modelled and stuff. Also, about the above scenario type stuff, something like hypothetical country military/economic alliances like the proposed CANZUK, including the Uk, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, that could bring some interesting scenarios

Damn. Ok, that was impressive

I think this is the first episode of a big simulation in which HALF the time of the entire video goes up on informing and briefing before actually going to fight 😄

I like these vids!

You do an excellent job in putting these together. You should be quite proud of all your work. Also, your narration is spot-on. Better than the movies. But ... where are the subs? FYI: Multiple subs are always with the 7th fleet.

Awesome battle!!!

Great Video

With all it's imperfections this was a hoot!

Well done Cap!

Love these videos

Hey Cap, Would the AWACS Reach to the periphery of the radar ranges to maintain only some overlap between their radar detection ranges, and the Naval radars' ranges. In such a way to maximise the Radar coverage in the air. The US Does have a pretty good datalink, it would make sense for them to utilise it fully. This might not be a thing to do for AWACS under a heavy air to air fight going on but during the later stages they would maximise radar coverage in order to cover any lingerers.

Thanks!

There was a USS America Carrier. CV-66 a Kitty Hawk class. Decommissioned in 96 and scuttled in 05 after a live fire testing. To bad nobody can dive her as she sits close to 17000 feet underwater

That first super bug was on smoke 😂

This video should also take into account the new air defense systems integrated into their planes by both sides.

Hey, Cap. As always, great video. I have a suggestion for a future video. I'm an American, and as such, a huge F-22 fan. I know that the American military is a bit concerned about the F-22's, and similarly the F-35's range in the Pacific theater should hostilities break out with China. I would love to see you guys test a 5th gen strike along the Chinese coast using Raptors and Lightnings launched from say, Okinawa. I'd love to see some F-22 vs Mighty Dragon action (also, are the AIM-120D's working with the Raptor mod in game at the moment?). But primarily, I'd love to see if you guys could launch from Okinawa with external fuel tanks on the Raptor, link up with a tanker enroute, strike along the coast and make it back with fuel to spare. Thanks for considering this! - Brad

Cap the PL 15 doesn’t seem to track the targets at long range ? Can u fix that cap and Aim 120 D mod seem to work pretty well now .Overall, i really enjoy your wargame series Cap ,hope to see more like this in the future 🔥

Former USAF, You rock Cap, just found out about the channel and I’m enjoying it very much! Thank you! 🔥🔥🔥

'Merica! Eff Yeah! Great vid, as always Cap and the GR team. We both know the only way the ChiComs will win is if they all ditch their canopies and toss bomb nukes, like Cap does. ;-)

People who use Wikipedia as reference for missiles capabilities don't realize that most of that info is classified because if we knew the exact range and capabilities than we would know how to defend against. So we can't go off what is given in Wikipedia.. your vids are good no matter what.

Batteries "dying" mid-flight is the stupidest thing I have ever seen especially from the country that manufactures the most batteries in the world. I mean, China, as a country, sent an orbiter, lander, and hover to mars in one mission and succeeded on the first try. So I think it's not that wrong to assume that they can use a battery properly. That's just me tho.

The murder f 35s should revert to stealth once the missiles are fired. Like have the pylons detach after firing as well.

Late to the comments, but THANK YOU for such an absolutely exhilarating show! My two suggestions for the next iteration are (1) fix the battery problem on the Chinese missiles (obviously) and (2) I still don't think you got the timing quite right at the start. I think the J20's need to attack and try to kill the AWACS well before the main attack is seen on any radar. The US would know that the AWACS were being attacked and would try to scramble everything, but they wouldn't know exactly where to send those planes if AWACS was shot down. Or maybe the CAP aircraft would go active radar and then see the attack coming? Might depend on whether the CAP was F-18's or F-35's, I suppose, given the different radar detection ranges.

How your server did not pack up and fo home....Great video guys

My tupence: In real life, such a huge Chinese formation would not be able to surprise a U.S. carrier group. The preparations for such an attack would be spotted from space several hours before they even took of. The factor why the U.S. side did so much better in this simulation probably was simply having more missiles on the F-35s. The sheer firepower overwhelmed the attack.

That was pretty cool :)

2D overall tactical view is great! I personally prefer mostly 2D with some 3D sprinkled in for these Wargames. Thanks for the video.

@Grim Reapers It would be cool to see a mass free for all fight let everyone pick whatever plane they want to fight with and just have at it lol. be super fun to watch.

you can put the AI aircraft on late activation and make a trigger in the F10 comm menu. After the humans took off from the carrier you can then do the F10, trigger the trigger and have the AI spawn in. That way you get the takeoff for the humans and the AI will wait, instead of the other way around.

Nice job Cap and the team! But i have one nagging question. Since it's all about a surprise attack, why aren't the rules of engagement simulated? As for the US navy planes will probably launch but will wait until being fired upon before engaging even if they are facing an aerial armada in front... Just asking...

When the US navy conducts freedom of navigation exercises in the Taiwan straight how vulnerable are they to Chinese attack from various land based defenses?

22:45 lack of pragmatism, America's Achilles heal. It will bite your arses quite badly one day.

I'm just glad we got the Amazon Basics batteries in the PL15s properly modeled.

This is why I love this channel. Even MY stupid ideas get taken seriously. Taking out the AWACS didn't seem to help the Chinese much.

Cap, China would definitely have ships (destroyers at a minimum) because it's the coast of China which is where they would be stationed and this scenario takes place after China has launched an amphibious invasion of Taiwan.

With the amount of pilots in the water, they could very well continue this battle with 9MM broadsides...

How about using 2 B1 bombers out of Japan or ?? and they are loaded (internal and external) with long range missiles to handle both aircraft and inbound missiles

Kadena is Air Force. I was stationed there and they are very fussy about that distinction. ANOTHER great mission! 07

Xcellent Briefing Cap!!

Great job guys. Random request. Can you do a hypothetical straight fight between the French carrier is task force and rafales and accompanying weapons systems versus one of the British carriers and the f35s? Would be really interesting to see the difference in UK/ US tech versus French.