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At the very least it provided moral

me:*casually eating some armor*

@@LycoKodoshut up. You’re really not cool

Willhelm would be side eying the cope cages on their Panzer 4

"Hans, ze couch panzer 12o' clock!"

Franz shot it on turret No way it's gona hurt crew But flush them out

The Ikea tank 😆

This is how I imagine Swedish tanks if they have Ikea as their armament partner

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*mean while the tank: covered in balls* patton: fuck he's not wrong

And I'm sure Patton would have slapped that soldier for calling him just Patton, without rank or sir, knowing him ego

"Yeah you right, this tank is W from Ohio, carry on"

​@@garmenlin5990commenter's mistake

That's actually not a bad idea, but probably a war crime 😂

@@xraystudios3693not a war crime if you won the war !!!!

@@kaybevang536 It's entirely dependent on what the media says

@@xraystudios3693 How though? They're already dead?

@@HentsSauce idk but wearing disguises is a war crime and so is using hallow point bullets. War crimes doesn't necessarily mean horrible things, sometimes its some wierd rules by bureaucrats

What's more impressive is that he approved something.

Well ge was right... sandbags weigh a ton and wont help stop a shell going through it. He was a fan of adding more ARMOR

​@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305crews did whatever they could with the crude and limited resources.. the push into France and Germany happened so quickly and the Allies experienced heavy casualties

​​@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305A lot of makeshift armor (such as track links) would often normalize the trajectory of incoming shells, causing them to become _more_ effective at piercing the armor by negating the benefits of armor slopes. Patton was absolutely right.

​@@Chopstorm.Yeah old blood and guts wasn't riding in that tank though😂😂😂

Blud hasn't bought premium 😵

World War 2 Plus@@peasantfarmerr8917

​@peasantfarmerr8917 Ooooh premium soo special.

General Patton? Is that the same guy who scolds his men because they're look unkempt, and prefer that they shave and buttoned up their uniform?

General Patton, the man who realised his men were fighting on the wrong front.@@alienalchemist

The sandbags please the machine spirits and so we keep it on. It's perfectly reasonable.

The "Rule of Cool" applied much more.

this is true @@redcell9636

The thing is Patton never understood the concept of moral. He was puzzled by the notion his men were human beings with emotions

Except it would help with panzershreck and panzerfaust rounds and depending on the caliber he rounds they only tested against big caliber rounds and mainly ap

Genius

My guy, we are the same

Makes me wonder, would that have any effect in real life if you poured a tiny amount of gas into a shaped tub of reinforced metal? Isn't ERA designed to detonate upon impact anyway?

@@jakemckeown9459 Bro how does some people like you act like kids

​@@jakemckeown9459hyyyy how ya doin ya old troll.

​@@jakemckeown9459man get to edgy ass outta here

@@elchicogore9517 I also do

​@@elchicogore9517They are the top 10 Edgelords of history.

Take my sub.

more like tank it from me

As a Scout I am obligated to disprove this message!

Having a premium subscription to War Thunder doesnt make you a tanker bud (jk)

@@kevinm.n.5158 damn you guessed it. But all I did was buy bushes

My grandpa served in the navy on a minesweeper ship from 1942-1945 and sailed off the coast of Japan. I never got to hear his stories since he died in 2009 when I was 8, but my dad’s an army Vietnam vet who worked with HVAC on Danang airbase in 1969 and I’ve heard his stories all my life. Some of my fondest childhood memories are of my dad telling me about guard duty and some of the antics he was involved in. I’m an army global war on terrorism vet as well, I think it’s funny that I served during a war that essentially started when I was a month old in September 2001 lol.

Patton wasn’t at d-day

As a father myself don't worry bro he was just happy to be around you with the time he had left. No regrets

No he didn't serve under Patton. Stop lying

he fought for mixed race trans kidsbat drag shows

they're afraid of a tank shell filling the crew compartment with spalling , not the tank catching on fire. you misinterpreted.

@@Zyzarda it's a joke. you misinterpreted.

@@Zyzarda Majority of the German tanks are using HE filler shells. Spalling was the least of their concerns when they're all gonna be blown up.

You are gonna love the Super Pershing then. Thing was up armoured by the crew welding pieces of a knocked out Panther to the front of the hull and turret.

@@TheGreatThicc yup! The super Pershing comes to mind when thinking of wearing the enemy’s face!

Your not gonna love m18 hellcat cuz it can one shot by german tanks like tiger, panther and Panzer IV ausf H/J but some you love it cuz it can one shot to Panzer IV, panther,TIGER 1/panzerkampfwagen VI

@@Federationursa I don’t think you worded that properly

@@cowerdnerddespacito9518 we maybe knowed that I'm not worded properly

While it didn't work against conventional Anti-tank rounds, sandbags did do a good job in protecting against shaped charges such as a panzerfaust.

logs and wood in general would do the same job, be lighter, and easier to replace. Patton seemingly only disliked sandbags as additional armor since its massive chunk of weight for very little use. The armor plates, spare tracks and wood were all approved in the 3rd army.@@man-uk8cz

@@jaydeleon8094 Yeah makes sense, im just trying to provide that the sandbags werent entirely dead weight & provided a small advantage against ground units armed with light anti tank weapons. Not a particularly great one though, like you did say logs significantly was more effective in stopping power.

@@man-uk8cz yeah you could get the same protection with scrap wood planks and similar, for a fraction of the weight. People just seem to not know what the hell a fuse is.

@@man-uk8cz I could believe sandbags helping against man-portable HEAT weapons, but there are certain things that don't work, for example Soviet "cope cages", which actually made the Panzerfaust's warhead more effective because of that little bit of extra space

Could have been a damaged one that had been cut for people to look inside.

Or: "We don't have enough armor!" "Eh, shoot your friends and take it from them." "WHAT?!" "Or wait for them to die normally. Look, it's what Patton wants, okay?"

@thenachosaurus4609aren’t sticks flammable?

Italy Sadie f@&$ it and put gasoline

And add these sandbags

Flame does jackshit to tanks thats mf'in goofy ass skinny as stick competkng againstt literal rolled homogenous armour ​@@tabbycat406

There are actually cases where the addition of armor made the tank perform worse and get destroyed more easiliy, atleast im pretty sure the concrete one made the armor worse than without it, if i remember the information correct from another video.

@@jophiohipthe concrete on the front of the tank would help stabilize any incoming rounds and therefore remove some of the advantage that the Sherman’s angled armored had

@@Militariadude08 thanks for the addion of this info :) !

Yeah. Also Tracklinks, horrible for the survivability. Made the armor signifficantly weaker. @@jophiohip

​@@martinmorsch7507who said tank track made it worse ????you totally mistaken, some german tanks even put their tracks in front for the benefict of extra armour

That's literally the Jumbo.

Sabaton

@@Necoy666they mean more than that not just a second layer of armor on top

@@AugmentedGravity unopposed under crimson skies

@@cookiekid0014 IMMORTALISED

Dying in one looks sick too

Like a bunker

I would love to see a game featuring tanks that allow you to scavenge the land around you to put on parts to the tank.

@@tonypeppermint5329 Great idea, thank you.

GMOD@@tonypeppermint5329

Usa! Usa! USA!

I mean the color purple worked well I still can't find those fuckers

​@@Lordofhollows15 I was about to comment that!!! FOR THE WAAAAAGH!!!

bro iove wt

@@redmonkey4866 I know why but I still got to ask, why?

150pen Face 45 side armor

That’s why I uninstalled that POS, gunner heat PC will end up putting them out of business, anyone who thinks other wise is a wallet warrior snail simp.

​@@scorchclasstitan6727sounds like a skill issue

"It made the troops look shabby!"

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Bro fr said their fear of having a slow, fiery and painful death on a metal coffin while trying to keep their mind together while they struggle to survive in a literal hellscape is cute

@@Skibidi_sigma_pomni420 It's brotherhood man. They're in it together, fighting the good fight

@@TheGreenKnight500 yeah

​@@TheGreenKnight500Yeah and burning up together, aren't wars great, not.

Hmm

It's not spaced armour just additional add on armour. Spaced armour refers to armour ofset from the vehicles to protect against various lesser forms of munitions

@@l.a.wright6912brother spaced armor is for heat rounds/shaped charges

@lk_t5811 no it originally was made for anti tank rifle rounds. It was just later found to be effective against shaped charges. What I was pointing out was that Patton did not discover this or even test it. He tested add on armour which is different. Op mixed up the two

​@@l.a.wright6912the armor add-on shown was spaced, so, idk why you're getting defensive over something you yourself didn't work on nor Patented (pardon the pun).

I think they used it against some specific type of weaponry, meaning the wooden protection on those police vehicles actually made sense

Its for RPG-2/7's lol. Especially the older ones that nobody believes would even work.

the free wifi inscription was humurously written by the philippine army ifvs during the siege of marawi. They used wooden boards as spaced armor as enemies are using rpg 7s and typical grenade launchers which the army is also usiNg. There were no widespread use of sophisticated atgms.

​@@austria5892RPG 2's, not RPG 7's.

​​@@austria5892 the Maute terrorist group uses obsolete RPG-2s. There were no RPG-7s used by the terrorist. And BTW the Army's Scout Rangers used RPG-7s bought from Bulgaria for the first time in Philippine combat, but only as bunker busting weapon than anti-tank.

My sentiments exactly. Though in this case it would be, like, modifying the handle to be more comfortable or something.

A diesel loves her oil same as a sailor loves rum

Patton was right in the end - sandbags and logs especially provided basically nil armor for a non-insubstantial weight, slowing the tanks down (which in turn made them more vulnerable.)

@@maltewernerwoiske the logs weren't there for armor. They were lashed to the tread to act as "feet" for better mobility.

@@paralyzedtortoise8446 Not to mention that in some cases it put extra strain on the suspension.

Getting scolded by patton himself, mustve been one hell of a story

DDDDAAAAAAMMMMMMMMEEEEEE WE GOT THE GUY!!!!!!

we got the guy!!

that happened

@@benjaminfitzgerald2037 nuh uh

Some of it was, like the proper plates that were welded on to the tanks. The Third Army did a study during the war about it, along with several other US formations and found that most logs and sandbags added to tanks only made the panzerfaust more effective. Now you can call conflict of interest, Patton hated messy soldiers and equipment, but post-war testing of HEAT warheads showed the same results they and others got. The reason is because the early warheads didn't have any built in stand-off range like modern ones do. It was found that on average the panzerfaust performed better with a short gap between the armor. The sandbags would be literally blown away by the blast of the explosives in the shaped charge, leaving a mostly clear shot to the armor only a few inches beneath. The logs splintered easily under the same blast. The metal plates provided a solid, rigid surface that the jet had to punch through first, before reaching the main armor and thus wasting energy. There is a problem here too, unless the plate was angled, and had nine inches of backing with something like sand or concrete, this also made the panzerfaust more dangerous. British tests suggested that single angled plates would need to provide THIRTY inches of stand off for benefit, meaning the tank would become almost five feet wider and the driver would be absolutely blinded by a massive chunk of steel in the way. This is getting too long, but to add the caveat here, if the panzerfaust/schreck warhead hit at a sharp angle, sometimes there was enough stand off range to help. The sandbags did occasionally result in deflections that otherwise would have hit and penetrated. Neither of these effects justified the 10-20% increase in penetration power, because at too little of an angle, it meant the weapon would penetrate the armor when it normally wouldn't have. It turned out the best way to avoid getting hit with a german rocket was to have the infantry in front, calling out targets to the tanks before they got within the hundred meter range of the panzerfaust. If you can't tell, I have too much free time on my hands.

@@MUJUNKY Thank you for explaining about the same as what I was going to explain.

I remember hearing a story a German told about when he was in the Hit-ler Youth. Him and his buddies would take out tanks with panzerfaust. He said one day his friend was running across the street to get a better look and angle on the tank down the street. As his friend was crossing the street the tank shot a round right between his friends legs.

It's a placebo that doesn't add protection but boosts morale, a concept Patton somehow couldn't grasp

The us and german army both did studies and came to the same conclusion. To provide real world protection at medium ranges the armor values of the tanks would have to more than double making them effectively immobile.

The tankers would have preferred real additional armor too, but this doesnt exactly grow on trees, so they just improvised with what they had

what would be a good commonly found material instead?

@@geronimo5537 Most well known generals preferred steel plates, spare tracks, or even logs instead

I dunno

Yes, a complete and utter bastard by contemporary accounts. Churchill was another famous asshole. Except he was also dangerously incompetent. By incredible luck, he stumbled ass backwards to the right place at the right time.

Yes

But he knew what he was talking about when it came to adding protection to their tanks. And it was true that they added to much weight and didn't provide more protection. So asshole or not for certain things he sure was a genius.

​@@MNM-lq9te I can understand the logs, but every other method seen besides maybe track linking seems like welding on more armor would be more effective. Maybe it just didn't cross people's minds to do that. Logs would be pretty easy to do and also had other practical uses, but the frames to throw on sand bags and concrete would have to be custom welded and attached, and tank tracks would have to have been scrounged somehow.

Personality is everything you don't see any dead tanks covered in extra armor

Do you think some wood is gonna burn through steel....?

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There was an upgrade mod made to the T-55 tanks of the Warsaw pact armies, that added some simple spaced armor around the turret. When NATO got a chance to look at one such tank they were amazed to find this spaced armor was hollow inside! But later, when they got a chance to test such a tank with NATO anti-tank rockets, it was found this simple hollow armor was actually quite effective against many man-portable anti-tank weapons and was able to prevent many of them from penetrating the turret.

The biggest advantage of sandbags to the Sherman was to prevent the small arm rockets like the panzerfaust from instantly being able to destroy an early m4 model since they had terrible ammo protection

The Russian did too, but they still add random stuff cause it give the tank crew extra courage to rush forward. You can say these stuff is like the fancy skin that add zero armor value, but add mental strength.

​@@CSRIexcept a panzerfaust crew would never be stupid enough to attack the front of the tank. The main addition was moral support to the crew.

Sand bags for the driver may protect from small arms when he's open hatched

​@@CSRIunfortunately it had the opposite effect. DOD ran tests and found it actually helped the early heat projectiles fuze easier. But seeing the morale boost it provided they decided to withhold this information

That was actually effective against the early RPG 3 warheads, but if it came to actual protection against AT shells from other tanks, the protection was marginal at best compared to all the additional weight

​@@Charles-Athey were useing rpg 2 not 3 and if im not wrong used cheap HE vertions not HEAT

@@nikolaideianov5092 Thanks for the clarification

That boot "tradition" was made up whole cloth sometime in the 90s. Prior to that only the 2nd Lieutenant had to earn his boots because he had not surmounted Misery, Agony, and Heartbreak like the rest of the tankers did at Fort Knox.

Injured by the americans while as a driver for an american tank? I doubt it

@@prvt.harumi6821 you never heard of friendly fire in the fog of war. Unfortunately it happened alot during WW2. Plus I had no reason to disbelieve the guy especially with the scares he had.

@@mechsgtpuma938 friendly fire zwo times , and two times by his Platon? I call bs. One is already a low chance , and twice almost impossible. Wither youve got one of the unluckiest grandparents ever or youre making shit up

@@prvt.harumi6821 firstly i said he was someone i worked withand not my grandparent. I had no reason to disbelieve him. Secondly why would he lie about sothing like that. Unfortunately in war thede are many many unlucky people and the fact he made it home with the injuries he sustained id say lucky. If you choose to disbelieve thats your progrative. I have been very privaged to meet many WW2 veterans from those who served in France, Netherlands, Germany, Singapore and Burma as well the Atlantic campaign as well. I believe everything they told me what reason is there to lie.

I'm guessing you're already familiar with the book "Death-traps" that is all about the Sherman's vulnerabilities -

Not shells but heat projectiles like the many AT launchers available at the time

​@@Doc_Paradoxand also the shells, because it's too soft to bounce the shells, so it would either lead it much closer to a 90° armor hit than it should've hit without it, or nothing changes, which still means they are dead

Man you should have warned german tanks that put tracks in front of it as part of extra armour.Ex:Panzer IV and Tiger.They did this for pure added armour

​@@pecetabla8042when you put couple inches of armour on alrrady flat surface, it stays flat or 90 degrees, thats why Panzer IV has track in front of it, extra armour

Tests conducted had shown that did happen. It was even worse for HEAT rounds from panzerfausts, since it made them much less likely to deflect,. It also increased the standoff distance to a more optimal location that made penetration of the actual armor easier. .

Maybe the moron could’ve pushed for better equipment for his soldiers that actually died obeying his command than scolding them for wanting to not die.

If you bothered to do any research, you would know that he did just that. Patton was a big believer in improvements that actually worked, like adding on additional armor plate. He instructed that add on armor plate from wrecked tanks be salvaged and and used.

​@@scottydog1313W.. What..? You know how HEAT works, right? A chicken wire mesh could prevent Heat from penetration. Besides, German tanks mostly used APHE, some variants also opting for BC, however there were very few variants that utilized HEAT. Now the STUG and STUH assault guns did, and were common ambush tanks. They'd have a hard time with a log equipped Sherman.

So true, I mean, we only have one shot

He's one in several billion nowadays doubt there's much hope for the future

@@Hondaone1 sadly I believe your right

​@@Hondaone1How many wars did your generation lose? You grew fat and took too much

@@enlightenedpreparingep4006don't, he's a pessimist and pessimists are the downfall of humanity.

​@@Hondaone1every generation thinks that its better than the one before and the new one

Super pershing moment

"you idiots use metal not wood" -general Patton

Logs were a nice piece of kit to have actually. It kinda maybe helped against panzerfausts and stuff as well.

Patton is one guy... And the stuff people slapped on the front of their tanks could even make incoming fire cause more damage by giving it a soft surface to gain purchase rather than partially deflecting even as it bites in Patton was a asshole... But he wasn't WRONG about some of this

This joke never gets old!

But, it could definitely improve troop morale. The cost of a little more fuel could pail in comparison to the improved fighting spirits you'd get

Can't argue with that. While I was in the Army I'd have probably looked at the general and been like "uh huh". The second he'd leave I'd have duct taped or welded boiler plates to the front and sides. lol@@ajduong

@@ajduong Fuel consumption is the smallest issue. Transmission failure is not, also in case of spare tracks you are making you protection worse by providing enemy shells nice and soft normalization layer so they can straighten up on impact.

​@@ajduongbut the cost of speed is not, the advantage of a Sherman was it's maneuverability, adding hundreds or even thousands of pounds of weight was just getting rid of you advantage and increasing your Odds of death

@@ajduong The benefit morale. The cost. Increased wear and tear on the transmission and brakes, larger strain on the engine, reduced top speed, worse ground pressure for driving over mud and potentially getting the tank stuck where it normaly wouldn't have been, lower fuelefficiency. Not to mention, a false sense of security, thinking you are now protected vs a hit while in reality your chance of survival has not increased.

It’s only the panther and king tiger that the Sherman had trouble penetrating

What. the. actual. fuck

what?

@@textik5821 seeing a tank being protected by various objects would probably make more people want to kill the tank crew in a painful way

Unsure what the Ballistics on sandbags are (I know they're good at stopping small arms) but they might be like a reactive armor in the case that it absorbs the initial impact and helps to slow down the round enough so that when it hits the actual armor, it has a better chance of deflecting or just flat out not penning.

I dont think the average soldier in the 40s has as much knowledge as the average highschooler in the 2020s considering the amount of research in basic physics thats happened since.

​​@wingsoficarus1139 their tank and training manuals state exactly how angled armor effects the reliability of shell penetration. At the end of the day, in most circumstances, the ad-hoc armor most likely provides some small amount of protection, seeing as things like reinforced concrete were officially implemented on German tanks.

@@medicodyssey reactive armour acts primarily by destabilising or fracturing projectiles, spreading the projectile over a greater volume of armour.

they really only worked on something like the panzerfaust because of how the weapons was designed. every other option shown would work at least somewhat against all forms of AT weaponry. Sand bags add way too much weight for the little good they do. Slap on logs and scrap wood would do the same job against the panzerfaust, but be far lighter.@@medicodyssey

Adding a few extra tons of crap onto the suspension sure didn’t do them any favors. Besides, im pretty sure if an AT round can punch though 4-6 inches of armor grade steel then it’s not going to care about logs or some sandbags.

@@fboyg91the charge actually did care about the logs as it detonated on the logs rather then the actual armor, but sometimes this made them more effective.