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Thank you!

Thank you so much!

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Interesting observation about the CP-70-vibe! That is exactly what I have heard when playing my various pianos in the Pianoteq collection. And it tears me apart because the idea and result of Pianoteqs modelling is absolutely astonishing when looking at it from a performer’s view, but when it comes to the sound there are some work left to be done. I don’t know if it’s because the modelling lacks some ingredients (algorithms) to fully reproduce the piano sound in various environments, but sometimes it sounds to clean/synthetic. Of course you’re able to throw in some dirt (equaliser, reverb, tweaks in the modelling and so forth) to make it sound more natural, but tweaking an already synthetic sound won’t take the synthetic sound away. With this in mind, I am willing to admit that the Bösendorfer modell almost has reached the point where the CP-70~vibe has disappeared. So, there is room - and knowledge - for improvement and I hope Modartt are up for the challenge!

Thanks a lot!

Thank you!

Aw, thanks so much! I just love playing music on the piano and Pianoteq (along with a nice keybed and good speakers) feels close to playing a real one (or 40!).

I love playing all the Pianoteq pianos and have for many years. But I think these things are very subjective. The Roland pianos in my Fantom are great too but I just have more fun with Pianoteq. As for sampled pianos... they do sound really fantastic but just don't respond to my expressive input in the same way as modelled or real pianos. Each to their own!

Added the bosendofer after watching - stunning.

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My pleasure! Thanks for listening!

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All we need now is a Fazioli!

@@PhilBestMusic My thoughts exactly! Even a real one wouldn't hurt. After all, they're located not that far from me. It wouldn't fit through the door but hey... 1st world problems

@@PhilBestMusic I really want more upright options too. There is already like 10 flagship grand pianos in the product. Bösendorfer is one of the better ones though. A dream would be if they added more upright options to the U4 pack for free like they did with one of the Petrofs I think?

@DarkSideofSynth Angela Hewitt had that problem, I believe!

@snurrfint I do like the U4, especially with the felt pedal on. So I agree, some more uprights would be nice.

I'm glad it helped, although I must admit, I'm no reviewer - no comparisons or comprehensive insights. I just share what I enjoy.

@@PhilBestMusic perhaps I meant... Thanks for the early demonstration and your thoughts and fine playing of the new piano 👍😉

Thanks!

Thank you!

Thank you so much!

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Aw thanks!

My prefernce is the other way round! Each to their own, of course!

Thank you! I really like my Fantom: the sounds, the key action, it's all great! But I do think these things are subjective. Yamaha, Kawai, Nord, etc. - there are so many good instruments out there. I don't try them, though, as I just stick with what I like.

I definitely do not say the same thing about every model. I have my preferences and this one is not my favourite. But there's definitely something about Pianoteq overall that I like a lot - more than the Roland sounds in my Fantom, for example. But these things are of course highly subjective.

Thank you! In this instance, I'm just using the Bösendorfer warm preset with very light post-processing using Waves L3-LL. I generally find Pianoteq's pianos sound slightly thick or woolly, so I put them through Waves C6, Piano B preset. I tend to use presets whenever I can, with only slight tweaks to avoid the sound engineering workload and have more time for making music.

@@PhilBestMusic I also find most of Pianoteq's piano sound to be too heavy in the bottom-end and lower-mids. So I always have FabFilter EQ on the Pianoteq track using a Tilt Shelf EQ crossing over at 677 Hz... with +3 on the top side, and -3 on the bottom side.

That would be nice!

I have a feeling it already exists - unless it was some kind of kickstarter project.

I resisted Pianoteq for years because I felt that way. I went for the VPC1 partly because it has no engine at all.

@@benjaminpeternorris which models are you referring to? There are several keyboards from different brands (and VSTs) that do include modelling, some to complement sampling, others as the primary sound generator, but none that I am aware of uses pianoteq engine and its instruments. However, apart from licensing and other constraints, it would be completely straightforward to build a keyboard with pianoteq as sound engine using current technology.

Thanks! It's a Roland Fantom 8 EX.

Try the YC5 using stereophonic rather than mics! Then EQ it: cut the bass, lift the upper mids! Finally, add a smooth chorus! Make sure there's a bass part! If the piano alone does the bass it'll be very light.

Either! It depends on the diatonic block you're currently in. Also, we can have chromatic auxiliary notes too, which can sound very fruity.

@PhilBestMusic Thanks! I understand now :)

I don't really understand what you're saying here. What I do understand is the clear relationship between doubt and overthinking. Clearly, you're overthinking!

@PhilBestMusic I'm just confused if I am going to think in terms of individual harmonic blocks or harmonic blocks in the context of diatonic blocks. For example, an F harmonic has auxiliary notes G, Bb, D, and E, and it sounds like you are in a one flat diatonic blocks (key signature), which F block is home. I don't know if G, B, D, and E, can be auxiliary notes of an F block. However, if that's the case, the F block may no longer sound home in a diatonic block of one diatonic blocks, but it sounds like away in a diatonic blocks of no sharps and flats. But I am not sure if this stuff that I am thinking is right.

You're right, if I understand what you're saying OK. Read the material carefully! It is explained. Any diatonic block contains 6 harmonic blocks and any one of them can be home (making the other 5 away). So in a diatonic block of 0#/b (all the white keys), if F is home, the tonal flavour is lydian; if G is home, it's mixolydian; if C is home it's the favourite mode of the classical western tradition during the 18th century and still popular in a lot of music but not as prevalent as we might imagine - ionian. Maybe you're still thinking in keys...

@PhilBestMusic Maybe music is not major (ionian) or minor (aeolian) always. Maybe it can become a mixolidian or lydian or any mode as the music goes. By the way Thank You Very Much for making me understand this.

Not maybe, definitely. The concept of key is very misleading indeed.

I'll let someone else answer that...

Yes, no changes!

@@PhilBestMusic Which preset? Thanks

The first one, I think: called "warm".