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In Conversation with Gogo Nomadlozi

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A sangoma for over 20 years, Gogo Nomadlozi joins Zanemvula virtually from Toronto, Canada to discuss decolonisation through spirituality, racial conflicts within ubungoma and her perspective on new age spirituality.
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@jeromelj1010
@jeromelj1010 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend in Cape Town who told me Credo Mutwa is in Cape Town undergoing a cleansing ritual and the bulk of the people who sit in circle are white women, she was so annoyed by that and asked me if it’s right. Hating sat with Baba Credo Mutwa a few times and knowing his annoyance with with white supremacy and appropriation of African things. I knew he would not have allowed it if it was bad. I told my friend that in spirit there is no black and white but the human race that has to do the healing work. Knowing this I still am faced with a wall of annoyance because I’m a product of apartheid trauma and colonization so I can’t not see white and feel annoyed at least initially when I see any inkling of appropriation of things African. I always have to remember who I am and whose I am and mysterious nature of spirit and how it is wider and deep than an ocean. It’s not knowable. It gives a glimpse of its existence and for that we are grateful. I am grateful. The original root of humanity is in Africa and that sobering thought helps me remember ALL are African.
@reneewilliams3829
@reneewilliams3829 2 жыл бұрын
I felt the same way at first. 🤦🏾‍♀️Ancestors help me🤷🏾‍♀️
@LizwiButhelezi
@LizwiButhelezi 3 жыл бұрын
I am impressed with Gogo Nomadlozi. She has a deeper understanding of traditional healing. She is impressivve! I also accept her acknowledgement of the wrong doing of the past.
@dignityboikanyo2826
@dignityboikanyo2826 3 жыл бұрын
Every time Gogo Nomadlozi expands on something, it brings me back to Gogo Dineo Ndlanzi’s teaching and I really love that 🙌🏿💛
@silindilegratitude3854
@silindilegratitude3854 3 жыл бұрын
I really got bored seeing a "white sangima" but wow 🙌Gogo Dineo said "a tree that is Deeply rooted gains Pearl's of wisdom and wealth" the wisdom and intelligence in this woman amazing💯💯
@ditiloshupinyaneng9362
@ditiloshupinyaneng9362 3 жыл бұрын
Great guest, unique healing gift, she was healing our hurt by getting it and by getting it through her awakened. Her interview feels like a consultation for many people at once in one room...Great stuff.👏🏾...thank you.
@phumzilendlovu6693
@phumzilendlovu6693 3 жыл бұрын
We're in this mess because of centuries of hate & slaughter. I'm far from understanding their perspective & it seems ngathi we must now accept it. No no no. The society of Afrikan traditional healers need to stop this. We must not undermine our hurt, bruised, pained, burnt, hanged & broken ancestors. We have to go through this path because of their mess. No no no no.
@reneewilliams3829
@reneewilliams3829 2 жыл бұрын
I concur
@zethumkhumbuzi9570
@zethumkhumbuzi9570 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this lady, she was in my neighbourhood while she was initiating.....I cant forget she was the only white Thwasa there, I grew up in Dlamini lol.
@tlotlo_tl
@tlotlo_tl 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for bringing different perspectives of ubungoma from different people around the world, this was very insightful. 💜💜💜
@siphoshi
@siphoshi 3 жыл бұрын
Thank u AfroSavy for bringing us this amazing soul, i learned so much from her expirience in spirituality
@user-mz2mj8jt7k
@user-mz2mj8jt7k 3 жыл бұрын
Oh WOW I read her book a few months ago. Loved the interview ❤️ Thanks Afro Savvy, we are learning and growing 🙏🕯️❤️
@EstelleCalifornia
@EstelleCalifornia 3 жыл бұрын
Amen !! We need to listen learn and relate what we did as white people !!!! ❤️❤️❤️love you so much
@nenesibanda4171
@nenesibanda4171 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this, more white people should admit to what they did to us as black people and our challenges and pain as black people.
@phumzilendlovu6693
@phumzilendlovu6693 3 жыл бұрын
But it does not mean they have to twasa. There are many ways to reconciliate.
@igqhirhalomculo5458
@igqhirhalomculo5458 3 жыл бұрын
Afrosavvy,I love you guys and highly appreciate your work.
@phumzilendlovu6693
@phumzilendlovu6693 3 жыл бұрын
I just think there are many ways of reconciling....again as black Afrikans we are being kind & understand to the fact that a white person is practicing what her forefathers had discriminated. Yes we should not live with hate but please please African Child don't ever forget the past. Moving does not mean we should be lenient. You don't see a lot of black people becoming tarot mediums, why, because we are not of their decent. Mina I think it's an insult & it must be stopped by money loving Gobelas. They must not compromise our roots for money. Please. Some of us have to go through these all because of what her forefathers did. There are many ways of reconciling with Afrika. This is just not it.
@reneewilliams3829
@reneewilliams3829 2 жыл бұрын
I concur
@boitumelomphirime4287
@boitumelomphirime4287 3 жыл бұрын
I remember our conversation on Facebook and once again thank you for opening my eyes and the education on white sangoma
@SiyakhaPlaatjie
@SiyakhaPlaatjie 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 I like how she's expresses certain truths through humor
@mziwanomzyt8815
@mziwanomzyt8815 3 жыл бұрын
I'm jus thankful how she recognizes her privilege
@igqhirhalomculo5458
@igqhirhalomculo5458 3 жыл бұрын
She's so authentic I love it. She calls a spade a spade.👏🏼👏🏼
@sammnguni9086
@sammnguni9086 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't think I was going to watch very long cos I was like ugh a white sangoma. How annoying and gimmicky. But actually there's a lot of integrity that is possessed by this sangoma and she's carrying our peoples work (I still think it's ours) graciously
@nenesibanda4171
@nenesibanda4171 3 жыл бұрын
She's speaks the truth right.
@NamhlaSithole
@NamhlaSithole 3 жыл бұрын
I completely relate with your comment. It's funny because I've been thinking a lot about white sangomas over the last few days and then I came across this video today. In my thoughts, I was trying to understand HOW a white person becomes isangoma because it's an ancestral gift so if their ancestors had never had ties to ubungoma, where would the gift be coming from? But I have to say, Gogo Nomadlozi has brought some insight and while I still have questions, I can see how it happened in her context and I enjoy her self-awareness. Like you, I still believe this is our practice and I think I'll always be critical of white people involving themselves in black spaces because of the history white people have with coming into black spaces, taking over and claiming as their own. Gogo Nomadlozi has certainly given me a new perspective in the context of the relationship between race and ubungoma
@nenesibanda4171
@nenesibanda4171 3 жыл бұрын
It really touched me when you speak about challengings that black and white people face. Proves how long we still we have to go in life with regards to what the system formed. I am glad that a white person can be so open and honest.
@silknowrinkles5348
@silknowrinkles5348 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the conversation.
@thatobodibewamoloi4403
@thatobodibewamoloi4403 3 жыл бұрын
Thokozani boGogo nabo Mkhulu, thank you Afrosavvy for the speaker, she was on point... Lesedi kganya 🙌
@siphesihlesidelo280
@siphesihlesidelo280 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite Gogo Zanemvula❤️❤️❤️
@lindasibeko133
@lindasibeko133 3 жыл бұрын
Respect..👏👏..Spiritual space is changing the world true facts... Siyathokoza Gogo ...Camagu👏👏
@spethoasiya737
@spethoasiya737 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this
@lulamamthimkhulu7426
@lulamamthimkhulu7426 3 жыл бұрын
Thokozani 👏🏾🕯️💙
@xoliswadinekantombela1344
@xoliswadinekantombela1344 3 жыл бұрын
Powerful ✊🏽
@soulyspirited9372
@soulyspirited9372 3 жыл бұрын
Thokoza Gogo 👏 👏 👏
@leanaharris4490
@leanaharris4490 3 жыл бұрын
thokoza gogo, thank you so much, how do we get hold of u for a reading or a chat
@Super-eq5ir
@Super-eq5ir 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone please tell me where I can get the bhayi that is hanging in the right with a tree of life in the middle I'm in Pretoria 👏👏👏👏
@G-Money90
@G-Money90 3 жыл бұрын
She’s not a Hebrew to claim that heritage. Bantus are the real biblical Hebrews.
@maelemothiba1423
@maelemothiba1423 3 жыл бұрын
She didn't answer with clarity on the question of land. Non the less, thank you for this perspective... I wish you can have more European(ancestral) people seeing this kind of content... we have a big disconnect on perspectives. They need to sit down and listen.
@itumelengmphogaseitsiwe5968
@itumelengmphogaseitsiwe5968 3 жыл бұрын
The truth of liars. Peter The Stepping Razor Tosh, once said you can fool some people sometimes but you can't fool all the people all the time! We know who yurugu is and we know the Sacred Spiritual Spaces they can never get access to. This is pure sacrilege!
@russellsephi281
@russellsephi281 3 жыл бұрын
Thokozani Gogo,, where in Botswana did you Thwasa??
@TheLilly
@TheLilly 9 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but as nice as she is and as self aware as she seems to be, my soul rejects it! I still have a lot of questions about this whole process now because how are these practices ancestral, yet our enemies not only have access to them but they can be initiated in them as well? Something is not making any sense here. Either these things are ancestral or they're not but we cannot have it both ways! We might as well stop calling them ancestral practices because what the hell man? 🤦🏾‍♀️
@lolliemnise-vidovic8595
@lolliemnise-vidovic8595 3 жыл бұрын
@ gogo Nomadlozi, when you were training to be a sangoma did any of the lessons contain E.T encounters or information in general? I am wondering if our african ancestors have had E.T encouters. Most cultures seem to have had and it is actually document as Sci-Fi or as old wives tales but I have not come across such reference in our religion.
@shoebox256
@shoebox256 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lollie, I first learnt a lot about E.T encounters in Africa by watching a long documentary with Baba Credo Mutwa and David Icke. This is the full version: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qbaVgqag2sCdqGg.html Part 1 is most relevant to your question, but I think it's worthwhile to watch the entire thing. Whew! I went through a range of emotions watching this and thought about it for months. It answered a lot of questions and you will realise at the end how so much suddenly makes sense. Especially Sci-Fi movies which constantly reveal the hidden truth in plain sight. Here's another interview : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n5yVgph2naiZc5c.html This one is much shorter: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bpxmqZiQ1bixY2w.html Please come back and let me know what you think!
@lolliemnise-vidovic8595
@lolliemnise-vidovic8595 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ntombi, thank you for your response I will check it out tomorrow, meanwhile you can also check out Acient aliens on Netflix or the History channel on DSTV. I have also come to realize that Sci-Fi has more truth than what we consider true🤯. I even see spiritual rituals in cartoons for kids which are very similar to our african rituals.
@shoebox256
@shoebox256 3 жыл бұрын
@@lolliemnise-vidovic8595 Wow I'm only seeing this now. Thank you for this recommendation, I'll definitely have a look at Ancient Aliens today. You're right, the kids cartoons are filled with rituals and programming. Once you have an awareness of certain things, you start seeing it everywhere right?
@lolliemnise-vidovic8595
@lolliemnise-vidovic8595 3 жыл бұрын
@@shoebox256 True, sometimes I think I am being paranoid as I see a lot of subliminal messages in movies, music and public speeches
@lorramokoka7778
@lorramokoka7778 3 жыл бұрын
Tjooo white people twasing Nguni. Haiiii to me its Gobela liking money. Haikho shem
@thangodlamini
@thangodlamini 3 жыл бұрын
which ever way you look at it, listen to what shes saying
@gogosimenjalo2936
@gogosimenjalo2936 3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@December17wed
@December17wed 3 жыл бұрын
We only see the outer. We don't see the blood.
@mphongobeni5946
@mphongobeni5946 3 жыл бұрын
Lorra Mokoka, that's lazy thinking
@lorramokoka7778
@lorramokoka7778 3 жыл бұрын
Mpho what do you mean lazy thinking explain Please
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