especially because she started to genuinely be interested in his interests. she started to have her own interests because she looked into them for lord debling

Yeah, WHY did he disappear. I also was wondering about that 🤔

Lesbian love couple while being married to whats his name 😂

I am hoping she does in season 4. Then she leaves him or something en Eloise gets with Debling.

@@melody_shmelody I mean if they're following the books, Eloise doesn't get with Debling.

Her little "I sympathize with you but I can't do anything about it" reason for not trying her help her or even bothering to listen to her was infuriating. Cressida can't do anything about women's rights but she listens to you talk nonstop about it and you can't even pretend to care about what's important to her. She's the worst friend ever.

Right. I thought Eloise was gonna sympathise with Cress a lil, coz she brings up how women get the short end of the stick and how in high society, women need husbands to survive. Eloise is in a position where its okay if she doesnt marry necessarily and has a loving family. Cress doesnt have that. I thought Eloise was gonna suggest to the others, perhaps give Cressida money so that she can go far away and live independently or bring Lord Deblin back. I know Cressida wasnt really a nice person, so she should get her commupunce, but we see why she is the way she is. If Eloise wasnt a feminist, i wouldnt be too bothered by Cressida’s ending but yh. Shame Eloise didn’t help her in the end

Yeah, so much for feminist. She’s not much different to the women she criticizes

@@jenm1Eloise is like Lena Dunham, nothing is at stake for her, she just talk.

@@blor3664exactly! It’s embarrassing to watch

Made me hate both Penelope and Eloise. Just two pick-mes.

@@BettyLove4078they’re better in the book but are actually considered spinsters because they’re 26 until they each get their romance.

Eloise is the true villain of season 3

I thought the actress did a remarkable job this season.

And honestly, it gave Pen an option to let someone take the heat. She could easily have licensed out her name - Walt Disney didn’t do his own PR, right?

almost because she had no backup plan and was caught almost right away in the lie.

The queen frequently steps in on behalf of the Brigertons to smooth things over, and like they said in the video, this would be a perfect connection for Lady Danbury to help, but oh well, I guess.

She had TONS of consequences and being a gossip tattler isn’t a huge deal! She mostly tried to protect those she cared about that never listened to her when she tried to talk to them.

Colin was sleeping on sofa.

@@anotherjunkie2 she had NO CONSEQUENCES. What did you expect? For Eloise to still be friends with her. For Coline not feel a little betrayed that she wrote those things out of him out of spite (even though they were)? She had no consequences from the tons and from either of the people that were closest to her. But just because writers said that she was center of the story they wanted to make somebody else the villain. She is a flawed character but her flaws never have any backlash.

Why was she working under a pen name if there wouldn't be consequences for being a gossip columnist? What about all the times she publicly was debating and putting down the queen? Cressida was about to get kicked out of society for pretending to be WD, but when Pen reveals herself, everyone just shrugs and remembers they like gossip?

@@anotherjunkie2she did put them in harms way in the first place. For example, her basically calling Daphne damaged goods and Daphne being worried that this writing would ruin her. Pen trying to not come out as whistle down so instead said her best friend was hanging out with political radicals. Bridgerton is a romance movie that’s why Eloise wasn’t beheaded for this. Any other old setting movie and this crime was punishable by death. Pen making Eloise lose Theo, the man she had feelings for. Drives a working woman out of business, potentially put Theo in trouble because again had it been a realistic show, the crown would pursue the political radicals to quell them most likely by death or banishment. Ruining Maria publicly because she can’t stand to lose Colin. Then blackballing Colin because Colin didn’t feel what she felt even though he tried to explain the misunderstanding. She was a bully. Titillating stories and people loved what she dished, but she did so much damage to people with her writing. Why? Because people didn’t notice her.

I hated that they painted her as the anti hero. I was rooting for her plan to work (as stupid as her plan was) all along

Did you really expect them to take Cressida’s fate with the old man seriously after season 1?? They don’t care about rape, I’ll scream this from rooftops 😭

@@sunnflare I mean their liberalism is very performative, you're right there

I haven’t read any of the books, so I don’t know the plot in advance. But I honestly did think for a while that Pen might help Cressida score that reward money and get outta town safe. Was an option… for a small window.

RIGHT??

Hopefully she comes back next season with a vengeance

The more I think about everything that this new writer did to the main characters Colin and Penelope I am starting to think she does not like these characters. She doesn’t understand them. She doesn’t care for them at all. She completely destroyed their story and destroyed them individually as characters. Cressida should’ve stayed what she was in the books 📚 and antagonist. Eloise and Cressida should've never been put together. Her role in the story is to antagonize the main characters. Cressida, got more character development than Colin the Bridgerton who the story is supposed to be about making her a victim. Makes the main characters look like a**holes. While taking away from Penelope‘s character. 💫Cressida, is to Penelope what Lord Burbrook was to Daphne this extra development and backstory, takes away from Penelope the main character Giving Cressida Penelope's traumatized victim story. The very person how caused Penelope’s suffering, multiple traumatic incidents, and blatant humiliation. When it's not Cressida's goddamn story. And what was the point? She's going to go to Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 now and we're probably never gonna see her again. If they had left the whistledown storyline open, then seeing Cressida in the future would've been a necessary, but there's literally no point to her anymore. She was just here taking up screen time for no reason. They should've kept her like she was in the books. 📖 She's a bully. A toxic person. She's an antagonist. That's what she's here to do and then we move to next scene 🎬 if her scenes aren't directly involving or impacting the main character, then it's not relevant. Cressida's character is here to antagonize Penelope and Colin. That's the only purpose she serves to the story. all this extra wasn't necessary. Her job is what Burbrook was to Daphne. We saw him where he was supposed to be antagonizing the main characters. We didn't see all this extra of him, (Raping) maids or whatever the hell he does, we don’t know because it’s not his story. The writer was so invested in cluster effing this whole season instead of the story of main characters. She even poured money into building Cressida a set so we could see where she lives. When that money could’ve gone to the flashback for the main characters there’s literally no more proof that I need that she did not give a damn about (Polin). If you wanted a complex nuance character, you had Whistledown 🪶🤬 The contradiction on top of the contradiction. (Jess) did to Whistletown 📜 . Whistledown is a character in of itself and should’ve been treated as such. Season 3 spent A LOT of time telling us that Lady Whistledown was a mistake and it was actively harmful and it ruined lives. And yeah, if you just watch Season 3, that sounds pretty damning and like it would be best for everyone that Lady Whistledown gets buried (or leashed by Queen Charlotte, which is what actually happens and I cannot TELL you how mad I was about that). The interesting tension with Whistledown was when Pen 🦢was directly challenging the Queen. 👸🏽 She was coming for the person who set the social norms and managed social attitudes in her level of society. That's FASCINATING, and Pen challenging the literal power that was directly and indirectly responsible for everyone being shitty to her and her family for two straight seasons is ENTIRELY valid and interesting. But then Season 3 happened. Season 3 yelled with its whole chest that Penelope was bad and wrong and should be ashamed for saying mean things about people, and tweaked Queen Charlotte's brain so that that's what she cared about too, instead of caring that her authority was being publicly challenged. Like...I was here for seasons 1 and 2. Pen was deeply human in her motivations and deeply complex in what she did and did not publish. And season 3 flattened all of that to go *"BE ASHAMED BECAUSE YOU SAID MEAN THINGS."* The Mirror 🪞 symbol has many significance to Penelope. Her growing into her confidence, but most importantly, her work as Whistleddown, 🪶which is a direct Mirror 🪞 Reflection of society. I am always furious when nuance gets flattened, and this is a particularly egregious example of that. It tells us to think something that directly contradicts what the first two seasons showed us (which is shitty writing on two levels). This was literally theft this entire season because we came. We showed up. We paid our money 💵 to see Polin’s story not whatever the hell this was.

I find this very typical in female centric shows. A woman who is just trying to survive is unduly punished and hyper femininity is how they depict her villainous attributes.

@@sarickacampbell2642 Yours is the most awesome explanation of what went wrong this season. And I've been watching plenty as I just couldn't quite put my finger on it. I'm a casual fan, never having read the books and usually only one viewing of the seasons. That was actually why I even went back this time. After watching season 3 I thought maybe it was the passage of time and I was misremembering season 1 and making more of it than it was in my head. Instead when I went back I realized they should have known how to write friends to lovers because Daphne and Simon had very good banter and a solid friendship during their courtship. And Colin was extremely sweet and earnest even as a side character. What a waste.

@@ellicel Since you’re a casual viewer, you probably don’t understand the level of disrespect that this new writer did to the characters She took everything from them and she made them empty. Shells 🐚 of themselves parodies. The previous show runner, (Chris) didn’t follow the books Plot to the letter. The way he adapted the story he kept the integrity of the characters. And the spirit of the story. In the books, Anthony’s very much “I’ll get you my pretty and your little dog too” He kept that vibe. After all these weeks, I’ve decided that this parody that they made for season 3 isn’t Polin Story. These characters were not. The characters. This was poorly written fanfiction. Those people were not Colin and Penelope. They’re just sharing names. Penelope in the books never begged Colin to kiss 😚 her. She asked him to. Not out of desperation, but because she wanted to know what it was like. To be Kissed 💋It was the first time in her life that she ever asked for something that she wanted. Then she stood there. Process the new sensation completely unbothered and Colin ran away because he was so flustered. 😩 Then he his POV man was driven completely mad by her kiss 😘 and Penelope was just like. Ok 👌 moving on thank you next. What else is happening? In the books 📚 is not seeking a husband because WELL she’s RICH💰 . And she doesn’t need A MAN to save her from her provincial existence. Penelope is pretty content with buying a house in the country and living with Eloise for the rest of her life. She’s not a burden or a strain to anyone people assume she is because she’s a unmarried woman. But she’s literally the one taking care of everybody. She’s the one financing her household & mother, secretly 🤫 by forging a false inheritance from her dead Aunt, while supporting multiple charities. She’s not in the ballrooms, begging 🥺 useless man to offering her a feeble imitation of freedom. She is literally the only financially independent female protagonist in this entire story and I am so pissed 😠 they treated her self made autonomy like it was nothing. And then completely invalidated it and contradicted it when they wrote Cressida’s pointless story. All Cressida needed for her freedom was money 💰 and Penelope is so RICH 💰she can finance her mother lavish foolery pay her baby sister‘s Dowry. While sponsoring a whole bunch of charities. and then at the end, Philippa says that her daughter doesn’t need a husband because she can be a writer like her aunt. That line right there made Penelope‘s finding a husband plot line completely pointless. What was the point of her search for a husband ? Before I saw the S3, I thought the only unforgivable offense was them making Colin a disgusting 🤮 Rake. But i was wrong 😑 the whole thing needs to be condemned. There was literally nothing good about this entire season. The writing was bad. The characterization was horrendous. They need to just scrap it and redo it. Issue us all Mental scrub brush to erase it from memory. 🫧

I like actually laughed out loud this is so accurate😂

FRRR they gave her the chloe treatment😭

Brooo I thought i was the only one that correlated the way they handled cressida’s redemption arc to Chloe’s lol😭

STOP

Yes thank you! This is the THIRD blonde mean girl I've loved and hoped for and been disappointed on!

Penelope wouldn't do that because then someone else gets "credit."

Cressida has been a bitch to Pen from season 1 for no reason, since with Lord Deblin it was the first time they wanted the same man. So there is zero reason for Pen to help her If anything the writing is shit! Cressida is pretty she would be married in her first season, even if the Prince did not want her anymore after Daphne rejects him there are ton of other man out there

I was waiting for that to happen. It seems to be a win-win situation, it's the sort of thing that might help Pen actually atone for the crappy things she's done, AND it gets her out of trouble.

You really expected Pen to help out the person who bullied her, and belittled her, took ever opportunity to harass her, and humiliate her? Boo hoo Cresida has a mean father.... so that excuses it? It wasn't that Pen wasn't willing to give up the name. She wasn't willing to give it up to her bully. Also, let's not forget, that when Cressida does learn that Pen is LW, what does she immediately think to do? Instead of going to the Queen with her proof, and claim the reward... She goes to Pen to blackmail her into giving her double the reward. A further attempt to bully Pen. As far as Lord Debling was concerned, he had no interest in Cressida. Although, if she had been honest to him, they could have bonded over their horrible families. Although, I will give credit for the actress, and the show for giving Cressida more of a story than in the books. In the books she's just a one dimensional mean girl.... and her bullying of Pen is worse.

@@lxena8033 She's giving Pen the opportunity to not destroy her name in public. I think that's far more than she deserves at this point, honestly. And boo hoo, the woman who has had control of the entire narrative up until this point suddenly finds that she isn't in control of everything! Everyone else has lived with the knowledge that LW could destroy their lives ... except Pen, who is really the only person doing something absolutely scandalous. And yes, redemption does involve being nice to people who are terrible to you. That's how it works.

Ok but we’re not watching a documentary; this is a regency romance, and so we expect redemption arcs for redeemable villains

People (not counting royalty) in the Regency era did tend to pick their own spouses and sometimes fell madly for people they hardly knew because the only way they'd get to know them would be to get engaged. At least according to something I was reading yesterday.

Eloise is only a feminist for Eloise.

I'm hoping her aunt only acts mean because she hates her brother and his wife and wants them to stay away.

I read both the main series and the prequel and I have no idea what you mean by that last bit😂 tbf it's been a minute since I read them, but still, can you elaborate? Are you referring to one of JQ's other books?

@@fruity4820 I will, but do not want to spoil. Have you read book 3?

@@saranemcova5448 yeah, but it was one of my least favorites so make sense I don't remember things from it

@@fruity4820 BOOK SPOILERS Cressida's mother has the same given name as Sophie's stepmother in Benedict's book, so I think they're suggesting Cressida is Sophie's stepsister or half-sister.

A lot of Benedict’s scenes had weird cuts. There’s that scene where he’s looking at Tilly’s card, and then hard cut to him being on her couch at her home and he looks like he was mid conversation with her. Like it was jarring

@@KaitouSaintTailMeimi actually, yeah, I remember that one too!

I'm sorry where would the "girls" get the money from?

@@nwokorochinwe2370 money (like Pen, or any male character like Colin did have the means) or any other help. Again, like other characters did in previous seasons

Chloe from Miraculous ladybug? True!

⬆️⬆️⬆️ Literally. Daphne was annoying from the start (talk about spoiled brat) but she fell off completely when she manipulated everyone around her that Simon deserved it and they all treated him so. Even Anthony blamed him. I have so many issues with this show for their actual problems that are never sympathized for.

It genuinely bothers me that Marina, Colin, Eloise, and Pen get more scrutiny than Daphne. Who committed rape

I feel the same way about season 2 and Anthony. He was something of a villain in the first season, he was one of the biggest concerns for Daphne and Lady Violet and was horrible to the opera singer. Then people really complained about Colin's prostitute montage (I hated it too tbh), but Antony had a pretty long montage where he was really rude to his female prospects interspersed with him in bed paying for sex (like seriously, what? Can't you stop going to the brothel for a few weeks while you look for a wife?) I think Anthony and Kate are ADORABLE in the third season (it helps a lot that the actors have good chemistry and Jonathan Bailey is charming), but people are forgetting the things that happened in the first seasons. I agree with almost everything people are saying about the technical "errors" of this season, but if we are going to over analyze the characters and their actions from a more serious point of view; The problems that people are complaining about this season mostly have existed since season 1!

@@scarletmaiden Facts! This fandom picks and chooses which people they feel sorry for and which ones they hate in an odd way. I have seen people argue that Edwina is a malicious demon for saying the half sister thing, but completely ignore that Anthony was drawing out his eye fucking sessions with Kate. There was no real reason for him to wait till A WEDDING (with the queen in attendance) to finally declare his feelings.

Thank you! Like what happened to Theo??

You’ve expressed my thoughts perfectly. I was invested in Francesca and John, and have always loved the Featheringtons. I hope they do bring Cressida back, as I like her addition to the story. I’m also one of the few people who likes the Mondrich’s also.

That is only a theory. We only know that they PLANNED to do that. I think that they will bring her back, but I am not certain that they will stick with this.

@@saranemcova5448 I know it's only a theory, hell the Instagram post might've been wrong to. But I'm hoping it isn't. Plus its the only way I can see them bringing Cressida back that would make sense, if their going to loosely go off the books and kill off Lord Cowper, after all he's the main force keeping Cressida in exile

I’ve read the books and interviews w/ JB saying they want to continue with Cressida, so this tracks. Spoilers I wonder if Cressida will “redeem” herself by helping Benedict’s love interest, probably after a long grumpy/petty period that will be milked for “tension” and “drama.” I don’t buy Cressida’s arc at all, nor that she needs to redeem herself, just making predictions about these messy writers.

@@em8066I hope she does. I don’t want her to be Benedict’s interest; I want her to show that she’s Beyond Society, and eventually end up happy with Eloise “You rejected my suit” indeee

​@@cloverazar5315 I did wish creloise would be a thing, but after s3p2 I don't think so... They already made Benedict and Francesca queer... I think they'll stop with queer representation in main characters at that, or maybe make one of the youngest siblings queer... But not Eloise... Plus Eloise was soooooo shitty to Cresida, girlie pop Cresida deserves better lol

I’m definitely waiting for each part to come out next season before watching so I can see the reviews. Well… I might not even watch since it’s coming out in 2 years. I don’t even think it’s going to be worth the wait. I don’t have faith in the writers or show runner.

Exactly! She’s beautiful and rich!

I wonder if Cressida *is* Sir Phillip. Writing to Eloise might work

@@cloverazar5315 That's a thought... I never hated Sir Philip With Love like others, but I agree it could definitely need improvement.

Why do we want either Marina or Cressida to be killed off? I'd rather see Phillip killed off and Marina get together with Eloise. I'd rather see Eloise and Cressida make up. I'd rather see Eloise get together with Theo or coachman John (Violet in the books said she'd let her children marry paupers if they were happy, as long as the paupers were hard-working, etc.).

@@HuntingViolets Nope, I actually really liked Cressida in season 3 even though the writers kinda screwed over her character by the end of the season... Honestly, I barely remember Marina. But the writers do try to keep at least some of the core of the books for the siblings and their romances. Even Michael being Michaela is still John's cousin and seems like they are going to try to go with the "You can love again" idea in her season. The love triangle in season two, Edwina didn't really give two shits about Anthony in the book, but it's still him going after the younger sister while falling in love with Kate who he doesn't like at first... enemies to lovers. I figured they still go for a widow or widower for Eloise's season. Honestly, I think a woman would work better for Eloise than it does for Fran. I would rather it be Cressida than Marina, I could care less about Marina and they didn't have any kind of connection unless you count Marina trying to trick Colin into marriage. Cressida being the romantic interest would probably improve Eloise's story quite a bit. P.S.: I think Eloise is over 21 so in Regency England it means she's old enough to pick her own spouse, but I also think even if she needed or wanted permission the head of the household is Anthony, I'm sure her mother's opinion would matter, but unfortunately the one that actually matter when it comes to "permission" in this case is Anthony... what a bunch of B.S., that a son could be more important than the mother when it came to these things. I mean, remember when Violet was giving birth to Hyacinth? The doctor was asking 18-year-old Anthony to choose since he was the head of the household. Violet's opinion didn't seem to matter, it was Anthony who told them to let her choose between herself or the baby.

@@snoopygonewilder I'd be fine with Cressida and Eloise. I think Eloise is 19 at this point. Also the others I mentioned. Anyone but Phillip. Marina would work because it's basically a flip of the book but without the toxicity, and Eloise has mentioned Marina a couple of times so sending her condolences is possible. Cressida is fine cuz of history. I love Theo, and someone not rich seems to get the most objections from the fandom (Violet in the books said her children could marry paupers). Anybody but Phillip.

They ruined a lot of characters this season

It's so unlikable in S3.

Meh never liked her. Sneaky devious back stabbing

we have seen that she has no talent to do that. She got her chance and needed the help of her mother.

@@queenieofdarkness I'm talking about what should've happened - and that's why she would've needed Eloise's help

@@ZKTor I don't think Eloise would write gossip. She would want to do something else with it.

@@HuntingViolets that's what makes it fun! She's in a place where the fate of her new bff Cressinda and her family's honor (since Colin is engaged to Pen, now) depend on doing this thing she's morally against Since Eloise doesn't know a lot of gossip, she may even have to use something about her own family... Or maybe the Featheringtons? And Eloise would experience what it was like for Pen to write a hit piece on her - becoming a hypocrite in the process (more of one at least)

I wish it would have ended like the book with her giving it up and writing a novel. I'm so tired of the narration. I'd like to see scenes standing on their own without it or maybe with some letter excerpts occasionally, as in the post-Whistledown books.