Personally I like ravnica and ebberon don't get me wrong dark sun or spell jammer would be awesome and fun to see but form the perception from me a new player having water deep dragon heist, tomb of annihilation chult, out of the abyss under dark, curse of strand behrovia, I love not like love the information both setting and adventure related that all those books have given new players and dms now I've seen a bit I feel dragon lance spell jammer and dsrkmsun from what I've seen would be awesome but from what we got so far out of the 5e books I am happy and I'm excited for the next few books were gonna get when they get here oh and under mountain dungeon of the mad mage

This episode ends very suddenly and very loudly, Pruit's voice levels vs the music levels in the endslate bit are all over the place. That said, good ep, y'all! Wizards certainly managed to make Ravnica look very shiny with their PAX games.

Audio issues at the end will not be repeated folks!

Xsutry

@@WebDM Thank you because that killed my ears.

"all the other setting guides" is SCAG, so there's that

Well, the last real setting book that came out was dark sun / eberron for 4e, which i liked a lot, but i can't overstate how happy i am to get into ravnica

Out of the abyss was basically a setting book with a module attached

@@egrettacaerulea SCAG is written like every new player or DM knows every inch of the sword coast and then they give you extremely shitty maps that are too small and the content is extremely thin. Glad I kept my 3.5 books and modules

Jim's shade game is UNTOUCHABLE

Oh man, I love reading the disclaimers in these books. Always amusing to some degree

Thanks Dave!

I think it might be indicative of the change of the general internet landscape when comes to how people get info on things like this. The reason people might have dodge of lot of that hate is quite possibly that for a lot of people in the hobby now, youtube and livestream content creator like you and WebDM are their main and ONLY source of new and info about the hobby. The need to go to forums and other dedicated website for this info is slowly become more and more unnecessary.

Jim and Pruitt don't really breed toxic environments. I trust them. Would be different if they were paid to say the positive FACTS about it.

@@thebillygoat120 soooo much preasure! The world is doomed! Nerdarchist Dave

@@Nerdarchy lol

Same. I don't really use social media so if that's where the hate is it'd make sense why I haven't seen anything but I think it translates awesomely to d&d.

Same with me, overall I think it’s a good sourcebook.

There were a lot of fanboys complaining about it the week it was announced because they hated the fact that the eberron book was a pdf and still in mid development while magic the gathering was getting a physical book. Honestly all the complaints were either invalid, based on idiotic biases against the magic dev team, or just plain dumb.

I noticed a lot of people who played Magic complaining actually. They apparently don’t like mixing the two.

nobody really hated it, the thing they hated was WOTC basically asked with a poll what adventure book do you guys want next for 5e. I dont remember the vote itself but the winner was either Eberon or Greyhawk. than wizards announced that ravinica would be the next one. a lot of fans simply felt that this kind of a betrayal why even bother with vote than. I dont really have to much of a problem the only thing is I will likely never use the ravinica book.

MTG is one of the main reason why it got hate, and while i dont disagree i still think the book itself is fine and its easy to avoid parts you arent into just like any dnd book

When it was first announced the comments under the videos on the d&d beyond youtube channel were full of toxic fanboys ragging on mtg for idiotic and biased reasons, and children throwing tantrums because Ravnica isn't Eberron and it isn't one of the generic medieval fantasy settings churned out by tsr. Honestly the complaints against the Ravnica book are idiotic. This book gives DMs all the tools they could ask for to run Eberron, planescape, or any setting with rival factions and organizations. For any generic medieval fantasy settings all that needs to be done is swap out the Faerun map and diety names for whatever setting you want. Names and maps which you can easily find on google. Dark Sun might be the hardest to adapt from recent books, but the fact is 4e had about a dozen Dark Sun products that can all be found on DMs guild or drive thru rpg. Pick up any one of those and odds are the monster manual, volos guide, or mordenkainens tome have already done 90% of the edition conversions for you.

Niv-Mizzet probably thinks it's not OP enough lol

@@dantezco Well, knowing Niv-Mizzet yeah. though at the same time Niv can forcecage, reverse gravity into prismatic wall. that's a TPK just waiting to happen

That's my only problem with it. I have it and the ebberon book. I enjoyed the book but I'd rather have a dark sun book or a full ebron book. Maybe dragon lance but still

@@shadowgear7032 As Jim said though WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE SETTINGS it just takes a bit of work to play in 5e, I'm with him: I'd rather have new things that we don't already have. Sure converting sucks but so does getting stuff for the same settings we already have, like the Forgotten Realms that they are using as THE 5e setting!

@@JacksonOwex as I've said in another comment it does not come down to me disliking ravnica just wanting something I can actually use not wanting to play a ravnica game. Though I will restate I'm new to the hobby so I only know glorion from pathfinder and the 5e supplements plus some stuff I've read about older settings most of that from books like the dragon lance series

Even the Gruul keep the city in check, they break down unused areas, push the sprawl back from the wild areas and maintain a constant churn.

Bluecho4 This feels like Eberron and the Dragonmarked Houses.

Gruuls job is as wilderness maintainers. They have been betrayed by a world that has taken the nature from them. They were the games keepers. I actually found more than anything, how little they focused on the regular roles of the guilds. Not enought focus is put on the fact that Simic are doctores etc. It jsut seems to be mentioned on the edges, that Im not sure if people who have not played MTG, might not fully realise. You end up for example ffeling like, why would anyone put any money in an Orzova bank?

@@TheAlmightyPillock (RE The Orzhov: they are the biggest and most stable bank in Ravnica. They've been running strong for 10,000+ years, after all.) Concerning the Gruul, I did consider this, yes. That their job - the reason they signed the Guildpact - was to ensure that the wild places of the world would be protected. As was the tribal autonomy they enjoyed in ancient times. The problem being that, from their perspective, the other guilds broke that promise. The city has only grown, filling out every space in between. The Gruul have taken a violent, destructive course because they believe they've been betrayed. Even their closest ideological peer - the Selesnya Conclave - have taken a position of surrender, trying to accommodate the city rather than check its growth. So the Gruul turns to extremist methods. There's this quote from Domri Rade, on the _Rubble Slinger_ card: "Tear down the city, lie by lie. Then throw it back at the liars, stone by stone." I consider it insight into the root causes of Gruul aggression. It's not just the other guilds' city expansion, but their duplicity. To the Gruul, they are all con artists and oath-breakers.

Heck you heater I made by the izzet, food provided by a golgari farm, the policeman is from azorious, that juggler is probably from rakdos and the plays you watch are approved by them.

IMO, most of the video was too quiet, I had my speakers at maximum, and the outro almost gave me a heart attack.

This.

if I remember right the unearthed arcana it was featured in also had a wizard of invention (izzet) and a beserker warrior (more of a gruul)

@@DerailedTrainofThought the wizard subclass focused entierly on a custom magic item and was scrapped / became a magic item instead. The fighter subclass i think was scrapped because it was effectively "you just deal more damage" without a strong enough story theme to back it up. Honestly I like that the Izzet gimmick became a magic item simply because wizard already has enough subclasses, and many of them fit perfectly into the Izzet guild's shtick.

After 10,000 years of the Guilds running the city into the Ecunomopolis, such a thing can't exist.

​@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 which makes it an even more interesting background. Like a guild anarchist

@@alejandrotuazon4831 in the last 2 years i learned half the Ravnican population is guildless, and there is a group opposed to the guild called "Gateless" so thats fun

With Planeswalker versions of classic Forgotten Realms characters.

@@stevencooper1103 Mordenkainen is basically already a planeswalker. Bigby and Otiluke aren't far behind

Dominaria can get a good expansion. With so much shit that went there. But getting something on Mirrodin/New Phyrexia or Kamigawa would be nice

@aydooknow you beat me to it.

I have good news for yoy

Thanith how did it work out?

I'd do it as if the Dungeon is the Dragon Maze and the Mad Mage is Azor himself. That way players could play a maze runner (one for each guild) and the goal is to find out what's at the end of the Maze. At the end, Jace would win it and become the living guildpact

I agree. The levels for Pruitt and th music needed to be reversed. I have my car stereo turned louder than it usually is just to hear, because the audio is quiet, and when the music comes on I'm scrambling for the volume knob.

It also cut Jim off mid-sentence.

I laughed my ass off! They need to get a new editor!

It almost felt like it was on purpose lol. Jim took up like 95% of the dialogue in this one, and it seemed like Pruitt was getting annoyed towards the end with having his ear talked off. And then the extremely loud music popped out of nowhere, cutting Jim off and drowning him out....idk, it seemed intentional lol, like a well-timed joke.

@@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai Every video is like that. lol

Oh gosh yes they're so pretty!

Those dice are worth every penny, and they come with 4d6 which is what a set of D&D dice should have, highly recommend. I plan on getting a second set.

I mostly would like an alternative to Vancian magic, any alternative.

Exaaactly, especially if you have a rogue in the party, then you can grant them more delicious sneak attacks.

@@5partaf or, in our party, a smite happy paladin

That does have a very Boros Legion vibe to it, love it already

Order Domain also has some very neat tricks you can do with it at relatively early levels if your enemies fail their saves--Channel Divinity Order's Demand to make your enemies drop their weapons, then Bonus Action Command "Approach/Flee" to make them waste their entire turn moving away from their weapons, and you can upcast Command to target multiple enemies if you want. The subclass is really kind of bonkers against any intelligent enemies with low wisdom.

@@Necroskull388 oh yeah, its got the good stuff. we're still low-ish level. so haven't got around to exploring all my dumb options. but its really good to just control the entire battlefield, and im barely ever doing direct damage. one of my favourite subclasses for sure

It's the HBCBs that keep us going

It got buffed but. K

I also really liked it but I felt like it was missing some things. Mainly more Ravnica-unique or MTG-unique content, like more spells or more classes. It really didn’t feel like it gave players as much to work with as it could have. Still though, it gave us a lot, and I did really like the amount of detail it went into in regards to the way each guild operates on different levels, and how players might come up with a fun and functional character for each guild. It could have had a bit more, is all.

@@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai well it came out rather quicker than anyone expected so its no surprise its a short book with not that much content, btu whats there is good... except the spore druid

@@kyubii972 having your entire subclass depend on a save or suck skill and a tiny amount of temp hp makes it so you'll never get to use the spore druid abilities other than by sheer luck... I think you have an odd understanding of the word buff friend cuz boi did they butcher the poor spore druid

@@Silvershield88 the spore druid spore cloud thing is fine. The hp buff scales with level so that it's on par with the hp pools of the average wild shape option of any given level. That's the thing critics can't seem to wrap their heads around. It's an add on to wild shape. An add on that boosts melee ability and allows the druid to still cast spells. If it also doubled the druids hp then the kiddies would cry "unbalanced!"

Got tired of waiting for a SpellJammer, so I have charted my own. Players hit level 10 so they will soon have a chance to get an astral ship and away we shall go.

I think that one of the best things about the book is that it's super easy to just transplant the guilds into other settings as desired.

The main writer of this book has also writen several pdf articles (plane shift) for using other mtg planes as d&d settings. He puts out a new one with the release of each large coffee table art book based off an mtg expansion. There are plane shift articles for Zendikar, Innistrad, Kaladesh, Amonkhet, Dominaria, and Ixalan.

That said, the Planeshift articles are certainly not the same as having the whole D&D team working on a book.

@@egrettacaerulea They are good enough to work with, or you need 500 pages to tell you how to run your campaigns all the time?

As someone who appreciates the fluff in a setting, I'd have loved this mentioned in the book somewhere. I understand people who already familiar with it are over seeing it but for those of us who've never played it before...the fluff is what sells the setting!

@@meikahidenori One source of fluff I've recently delved into is the large coffee table art books WotC has released for some of the MtG planes. The Art of Magic the Gathering: Ravnica, Amonkhet, Innistrad, Dominaria, Ixalan, Kaladesh, and Zendikar are all full of some of the best art in the game, detailed descriptions of the planes and their lore, and the back half of each book is a full rundown of what the main storyline planeswalkers are doing on each of those planes, and how their actions tie back to DragonVecna Nicol Bolas. The Ravnica art book is great by itself, but since the story in the game for the last five to ten years has built up to a climactic final battle with Bolas on the plane of Ravnica they've also released an art book for War of the Spark detailing the invasion of Ravnica by the zombie super soldier hordes of Amonkhet. Sadly, they have not to my knowledge released an Art book for Theros. Some weird stuff was going on behind the scenes with their story department and the novelization of war of the spark. It looks like they might have scrapped the storyline stuff they had planned for their return to Theros.

We're playing Invisible Sun right now and having a blast!

@@WebDM See, given the nature of Invisible Sun, that could be a disease, a drink at Zero's, a ceremony in the Red, or you could just be talking about the OOC fun you're having.

Ouch

The new setting for filming the show is great lol, I find myself looking out the window a lot.

I want to know what lies just beyond the gazebos

Ravnica got it first because of Magic's most popular worlds (Dominaria, Innistrad, and Ravnica), it has the least creative overlap with established D&D worlds. I couldn't really see Kamigawa or New Phyrexia getting their own books, but I could see the Multiverse of Magic getting a treatment in a future Planescape or Spelljammer book. And I doubt they would ever stop making the Planeshift documents. Just be patient, Grasshopper.

Conjuration and evocation already have enough spells that players skip over on their way to picking fireball, moon beam, and spirit guardians. Raw elemental spells are not something d&d lacks. Translating a few hundred magic cards into level 1 through 5 spells is less useful than you think. You can't really do this without overlapping 90% of the phb spells anyway. A much better use of the magic colors than trying to sort all the phb spells into the color wheel is found in the last 7 or so pages of the plane shift ixalan pdf. The article goes into great detail about the philosophies and motivations behind each mana color and each color has tables of personality traits and ideals that can easily replace those for the generic d&d backgrounds. The last 2 pages of the plane shift amonkhet pdf have simple rules for planeswalker parties. But if you really want to up the number of spells by adding mtg spells just do a simplistic conversion. The total number of mana a spell costs is its spell level and if it deals damage then it deals 1d6 of whatever damage type per point of damage on the card. For non damage cards it just does whatever the card says. Most of these will just end up replicating the dissmisal, banishment, fly, invisible, absorb elements, etc... spells so not much point.

@@CitanulsPumpkin That wasn't really my point. If you look at released content, there are 1-2 fire spells per level, and maybe 1 spell for every 3-4 levels of most other elements. They could have quite easily added 1-2 spells per "color" in total spread about levels 1-4, and both given some wonderful quality flavor to ravnica while also filling a hole that shouldn't be there.

Biomancy is impossible with raw spells, the more you rank up, the less you can fit transmutations and the only pet based class is the Ranger. I want to breed my own Krasis!

@@enriquewicks7797 Biomancy isn't something you should be doing with a 1 action casting time spell. It should be a downtime activity that your character does in their private mad science lab. Realistically, if you want to make your own pet Krasis (Edit: and have class features revolve around it.) talk with your DM and look into making a wizard subclass. Start with the School of Conjuration class features and add some stuff from the Simic Hybrid race options.

@@lord6617 No. Dude sit down and look at magic cards online or whatever. What you're asking for is a 5e version of the 3.5 or 4e spell compendium. Not a MtG book. D&D 5e has like 9 magic damage types. Fire, Cold, Acid, Lightning, Thunder, Force, Psychic, Radiant, and Necrotic. If you actually map them to the MtG colors using existing cards you'd see that half of these damage types are still red mana spells. Fire, Lightning, Acid, and Thunder damage are all red cards in MtG. Cold & Psychic = Blue Radiant = White Necrotic = Black Force you could argue being either white or blue. What's more, if you actually sat down with a list of magic cards and tired to map them to D&D spell slots you'd find a terrible amount of overlap. Almost all the Azorius spells in the last 3 Ravnica blocks boil down to slight variations on Hold Person, Banishment, or Dismissal. 90% of red cards that deal direct damage are covered by existing Evocation and Conjuration spells that do the exact same thing and share the same names as Magic cards from much earlier Magic editions. Literally all blue cards that counter other cards are covered with counterspell and dispel magic. If you built a deck with nothing but Green sorcery cards odds are you'd find they have 1 to 1 analogs to existing Wizard transmutation school spells, or spells that already exist on the Druid spell list. If you look at MTG enchantments, yes many of those cards don't have existing analogs in D&D, but just about all of those cards have effects that either don't work in D&D or would work better as Ritual-like spells with 1 hour casting times. Specifically rituals that the party has to stop the BBEG from casting. In which case you don't need the details of those spells on the player's spell list. It's just an ephemeral role playing reward, like when a PC learns the ritual to become a lich. The new Thought Ribbon cantrip is a great addition to the game and hopefully they'll make more spells like it that do something that doesn't already exist in D&D. But Raw elemental damage isn't something D&D lacks. Yes, more spells would be nice. But an overlay of the Mana colors on top of the existing D&D spell schools is not realistically any better than what we have now. And at least for arcane casters you are still gonna have a small percentage of spells in the entire game rise to the top when they have to pick their limited spells known. We don't need a glut of new spells with effects already covered that are just taking up page space because they were lazily translated over from a game that functions off releasing minor variations on the same dozen spells over and over.

I think one of the biggest problems with Ravnica lore is that MTG is a nightmare to figure out timelines for. We know almost nothing about the first 10,000+ years of Ravnican History. And the longer you try and figure it out, the more frustrated you become.

I too would like a large volume if players options in one book. I think the problem is the drive to make books be content for both dms and players. Player content IS dn content. Spells, magic items, races, feats, strange new weapons or tool proficiencies are all things dms can use to great effect.

A PHB2 would be amazing.

@@Risu-sama I agree that there is a lot of overlap between player content and DM content. I'm just fed up with player options being dribbled out in small amounts through every new book. 5E has been out for almost 5 years. Why can't we get a PHB2 with every post PHB1 player option reprinted alongside new stuff such as an official Ranger revise, Artificer, Psionic? XGtE made no sense to me because in some cases they used reprints and in other they did not. For instance the rogue got 2-3 subclass reprints, while the wizard got 0. Why didn't the other SCAG subclasses get reprinted? I know they didn't want to end up with 3.5 levels of books, but we're getting to that point where you're referencing 5 books for a character, their class, subclass, race, background, and additional spells.

Honestly the races in the planeshift articles and volos guide are great ways to expand the race options in ravnica. The Ixalan vampire works fine for any orzhov clerics and there's no reason to deny any player wanting to play a Viashino when volos Lizardfolk and the phb dragonborn are right there.

Eberron has a pdf version of a work in progress book on the DM's guild site. It's an official wotc book and is being worked on by the D&D team and the guy who wrote most of the 3rd and 4th edition Eberron books. Darksun had a lot of 4th edition books. They're all up for sale as pdfs on DMs guild or drive thru rpg. Honestly conversion is not that hard. Especially with lighter rules editions like 5e. Look up the plane shift articles and pdfs written by the head writer for this ravnica book. Each gives simple advice for adapting creatures and tools from existing d&d products for use in mtg settings. Look to these pdfs for guidlines on adapting and updating. The monster manual, volos guide, and mordenkainens tome all have creatures whose stats can be substituted for darksun creatures. Or may very well have been dark sun creatures originally. If you really want to have psions in a 5e darksun game the simplest options are the unearthed arcana mystic, or just have the players make a sorcerer. Maybe give them a slightly different spell list. Swap out a few elemental damage spells for wizard or cleric spells that can be described as psychic powers. Other than psions darksun is characterized by sand, weapons and armor made of bone and animal hide/shells, and arcane casters being shunned or hunted because arcane magic killed the world and created the endless deserts of Athas.

I'd love to get Dark Sun. And Planescape. And Spelljammers.

@@CitanulsPumpkin the issue with Eberron is the lore is quite extensive and Wizards refuses to update anything in it from the previous editions which is ok, but still full of holes. The creator Keith Baker has tried building apon it outside of Wizards however so if you're missing information or want to find something that's been changed usually that's the best place to go looking especiallywhen the races are completely changed around within the setting and wizards fails to give you decent reasons to play the unique ones. (and appreciated as sometimes the information you want you won't find wizards ever publishing). It's unfortunate Darksun, Planescape and Spell jammer don't quite have this...and less said about Dragonlance the better as I tried converting it recently and it's not the best to begin with unless your very familiar with Krynn from reading every single novel...it's a slog to convert it into something playable.