In The Loop | Episode 17 - 1972 Yamaha XS650

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Throttle Company

Throttle Company

2 жыл бұрын

In this episode I take our 1972 Yamaha XS650 for a ride around our test loop.
This motorcycle, along with many other vintage motorcycles and new Royal Enfields is for sale in our shop, Throttle Company Vintage Motorcycles.
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@airborne3369
@airborne3369 2 ай бұрын
I have this same 72. I have also ridden a xs650 all the way to Panama were the love grew for this bike. Very reliable.
@Mytriumph650pre-unit
@Mytriumph650pre-unit 6 ай бұрын
Who doesn't love the Yamaha 650.
@paulm5382
@paulm5382 2 жыл бұрын
I had owned a '72 in '74. Loved it.
@CapnSchep
@CapnSchep Жыл бұрын
I had a 72 in 82-83, should’ve never sold it .. I put direct slide micuni’s on it, it was a sweet reliable bike ..!!
@clarkblodgett4332
@clarkblodgett4332 Жыл бұрын
I bought one in 1972 because I didn't have enough credit to buy a car at 18 years old in San Diego, I was in the Navy. In May '73 I had to ride it to Grotton, Ct. where my first submarine was based. Quite a trip, wish I still had it.
@alanshumway2541
@alanshumway2541 8 ай бұрын
Sounds incredible..love the paint!
@kennethbaca7610
@kennethbaca7610 Жыл бұрын
When I was in my mid teens my Uncle hade one he let me take out for a spin every know and then. Loved that bike, my cousin still has it she still riding it, thanks for the memories.😮
@johngriffin141
@johngriffin141 2 жыл бұрын
That is a decompression lever as well as the starter lever. The left exhaust valve cover has the cable running to it that opens the valve slightly while engaging the starter. I have a 70 xs1 and a 72 xs2. Always check those side cover bolts, they loosen with vibration!
@reismith
@reismith Жыл бұрын
Everything lossens on this bike from vibration with time. Drove my friend's '72 XS650 cross country. Even the screws in the speedo vibrated loose after ~1000 mi. But a hoot to drive!
@nonyabiz9487
@nonyabiz9487 2 жыл бұрын
I rode a 77 XS 650 chopper in my college days.. It was a big piece of crap mess but I loved that bike. That sucker was reliable kick only start bike that the stator didnt even work properly and still got me to school everyday for years.
@kendemers8821
@kendemers8821 Жыл бұрын
I just bought an 83 XS650, it ran rough when I purchased it. It sat for several years with fuel in the tank so I suspect a carb rebuild is needed. There's surface rust on the chrome spolked wheels, black tank, and throughout the bike but I think I can remove most of it. I expect it will be a nice bike when I get it going. Great video and thanks for sharing your beautiful 1972 XS650!
@alanlake5220
@alanlake5220 Жыл бұрын
That sound has made up my mind, i have to get a Yamaha xs650B
@old4134
@old4134 Жыл бұрын
I had one identical to this back in 1975 when I was 22, and of all the bikes I owned then, it’s the one I really wish I’d kept. Mine had a Jardine two-into-one header, and sounded amazing, but lots of vibration on a long trip. And along with the noise and wind it kind of tired a guy out. The starter lever was also a decompression system that slightly lifted the left exhaust valve for ease of starting. I installed an aftermarket oil cooler which worked well, and finally sold the bike to a kid in the neighbourhood for $1200. Thinking back now to all the “could haves,”and “should haves!”
@GTP427cobra
@GTP427cobra Жыл бұрын
I had a 1973 650 it was blue loved that bike it was a road bike
@MayheM_72
@MayheM_72 10 ай бұрын
I'm in LOVE with the XS650! The styling, reliability, and versatility are all great. I also like the availability of OE style and aftermarket upgrades for this platform. (750cc big bore kits, rephase kits, carbs, pipes, etc.)
@fungi2bwhth
@fungi2bwhth 2 жыл бұрын
The motor was initially designed as a 500cc by a German company, Horex, after WWII. A Japanese company, Hosk, whose engineers were tight with their German counterparts, adopted the engine and made it a 650cc (with other refinements). Hosk was bought by Showa in the 60's, who, less than a year later, was aquired by Yamaha. Pretty cool history of this bike, and their long time competition with the British.
@hahull2008
@hahull2008 Жыл бұрын
Lots of Japanese bikes were based on German design including the 2 strokes based on MZ and Adler
@williamdejeffrio9701
@williamdejeffrio9701 9 ай бұрын
I've thought I knew everything about the 650, but I didn't know that. Thanks!
@RD-650
@RD-650 8 ай бұрын
Ive had one for over 30 yrs its chopped etc im now 70 yrs old an i still love it its a 72 engine in a 79 frame an it goes like the clappers brilliant engine ever made
@modrarua4594
@modrarua4594 3 күн бұрын
A few things here, The impressive reeving as you say is most likely the result of the dial/clock mechanism that fluctuates when changes occur, the inner core of the cable would not respond as quick as the dial mechanism. During your trip, I noticed the bike wobbled suddenly when changes in road surface occurred like groves/cracks in the pavement, indicating that the bike needs to have the swing arm bushings replaced. What ever it is, the left side cover is the most likely to fall off when riding, and replacement left side covers are hard to find for this reason. When trying to restart the engine and it fails to do so, on the electric, change immediately to the kick leaver to save the battery for the kick option. Was always amazed that Yamaha didn't provide mirror mounts on the handlebar leavers. The brackets supplied were very clumsy. With these bikes I find that the ignition electrics are a problem in causing hesitancy in the spark plugs at low revs only. Always a problem, maybe someone reading this has a recommendation.
@daveco1270
@daveco1270 2 жыл бұрын
Always happy to see a new In The Loop, especially when it's a vintage bike. Good thing you noticed the side cover coming off. That's a stressful moment, knowing your side cover is laying in the road and your bike won't start to go back and get it. Glad it wasn't run over and shattered into a million pieces. That's a bad day for a vintage bike owner
@karlwguitar
@karlwguitar 2 жыл бұрын
Love the sound of this bike!
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 Жыл бұрын
The XS2 is the most wonderful bike ever, and they run like a scalded dog. Mine would run off and leave any other XS650 in the dust. And it’s got a special sound. Music!
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 Жыл бұрын
I can’t get over how this one sounds just like my XS2. I know that the cam is special, the cam had to be neutered in 1973. The EPA said it was too wild. The 256 cam has a special sound of its own, after 1972 you had to get a grind from Shell Thuet that was similar. I love that sound! I like the 277 rephased, but the XS2 was the best sounding 360 degree sound of any.
@billcochran4072
@billcochran4072 2 жыл бұрын
My brother and I bought this same exact motorcycle. It was a blast riding it up through mountain roads twisting and turning between 2nd And 3rd gears!
@ericromeiro6688
@ericromeiro6688 Жыл бұрын
I had a Yamaha 1978 XS 650 SE Special with electronic ignition dark blue a very Good bike now I have a 1983 Yamaha 650 Seca Turbo silver 4,000 miles on it & a 1978 Yamaha XS 650 E green 6,000.miles on it kool bikes !
@billmoeller8897
@billmoeller8897 8 ай бұрын
Had one just like it for 20 years. Only problems, coil went out & gas tank started seeping fuel at the bottom seam. Cool bike, replaced it with BMW K 75. Longer ranger & a lot more comfortable.
@GregSr
@GregSr 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my XS-2 brand new. I loved that bike. Extremely reliable. I only had one problem with it. The swing arm bushings were loose and that caused the bike to develop a high speed wobble. The bushings were replaced under warranty - no more wobble.
@DARisse-ji1yw
@DARisse-ji1yw 2 жыл бұрын
my xs came with a plastic swing arm bushing. I'm not kidding. What were they thinking ?? Replaced it long ago with a sintered bronze one with zerk fittings...
@leftcoastcruising7080
@leftcoastcruising7080 4 ай бұрын
I owned a 1976 XS650 in the early 90’s… was a great bike. 😁
@williamharper9893
@williamharper9893 11 ай бұрын
Way more advanced than the triumphs
@RD-650
@RD-650 8 ай бұрын
You said it
@truthseeker2587
@truthseeker2587 2 күн бұрын
During that period, Yamaha has working on the engine development for the now legendary million dollar Toyota 2000gt iconic rare car
@Squeaky999
@Squeaky999 Жыл бұрын
I had an XS-1 in the early 70s. The guy I bought it from (who co-signed the loan for me!!) said it didn't run very good, and was hard to start. After a few months I figured out that he had told me the choke position backwards, so I was trying to start with the choke off, and run with the choke on! Later on I saw an XS-2 front end, with the disk brake, for sale at the Yamaha shop. I bought it, if you have an XS-1 with a disk brake it may be my old bike!
@JohnCunningham-sy5ug
@JohnCunningham-sy5ug Жыл бұрын
Had this exact bike color and such. Good times
@kebmel8668
@kebmel8668 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed in New Zealand, great stuff guys!
@bobbrogley1033
@bobbrogley1033 Жыл бұрын
My first "real" motorcycle. I bought it from the original owner in 1983, and sold it in 1995 to finance a garage. Loved this bike!
@fossmoss798
@fossmoss798 2 жыл бұрын
Well done video. Thanks.
@mikekoehler3779
@mikekoehler3779 10 ай бұрын
I just picked up a 1975 xs650 and I came across the video and after you past that speedway I’m like wait a minute I know where he’s at. Lol I’ll have to swing by after I get my xs650 going
@ghg8257
@ghg8257 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds amazing. Great video, thanks for posting.
@throttlecompany
@throttlecompany 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 Жыл бұрын
The XS2 cam had the character, a street fighter. In 1973 they were required by the EPA to tame it and I had an 83 Special. I rebuilt the engine with a 700 cc overbore and the XS2 cam just kept it a 360 degree. It sounded just like that and it really was a beast! I did a lot to reduce parasitic loss, like pulling a vacuum on the crankcase with a feed back into the crankcase for any oil. Ported the head where it need it. It dynoed 63hp and 52 lbs ft. Surprising. I could have rephrased it to 277/83 for 7-8 more of each but that sounded like a real cafe racer!
@trogers00100
@trogers00100 10 ай бұрын
A BSA that always started and the parts didn't fall off of. I owned one I bought used in 1976 for $1200. Superb torque... really easy to ride in city traffic. Only grump: cable for tach or spedo leaked oil and so my right boot eventually turned black.
@glenmoredonawa1682
@glenmoredonawa1682 6 ай бұрын
I have a TX650 i have done the same forgot to turn on the fuel😊😊 I love mine.
@arthurleino
@arthurleino Жыл бұрын
Had a 1978 XS650 Special ride a 1983 Harley Davidson FXWG now. In 1973 when the Carrier I was on, going back home there was many 1972 XS650 on board.
@michaellawrence5492
@michaellawrence5492 2 жыл бұрын
Strong motor all roller bearings
@ChanceBerryman
@ChanceBerryman 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet ride. All UJM bikes of that era are the same. It's a good lesson for business in general: copy what works then eventually put your own spin on it. Don't try to reinvent the wheel at first.
@williamdejeffrio9701
@williamdejeffrio9701 9 ай бұрын
I've got one...I've had it since 1978. It is stock, except the tank and side covers had been painted when I bought it...and the mufflers are aftermarket.
@phillipmitchell5879
@phillipmitchell5879 2 жыл бұрын
Yes - the steering dampers seem to be a remnant of the past. Although the Yam. XS650 was a challenge to the great Brit. 650's, the 653cc power unit of the XS was superior in reliability & had a bit more power. The handling, however, was inferior to the British twins. The sheet metal was thin-guage & rust-prone, & around 20K mi. it would need new brass sleeves for the swingarm, to replace the cheap plastic ones. In the mid-70's, they realized that lower placement of the front brake caliper improved the handling a tad. I still loved my 2 '74 XS650's, bookended by a '66 Triumph T120 & a restored '68 T120 Bonnie. Best years, I think, for the XS650's were '76 - '80 in the classic styling. Although I most miss the 'soul' & the joy of my Brit. 650's, a BSA too, it would also be nice to have a good, near-stock '77 or '78 XS 650 to enjoy. btw - I believe it was the intro. of the 1969 Honda 750 / 4 that was the beginning of the end for the great British motorcycle industry.
@teamgonzo9289
@teamgonzo9289 6 ай бұрын
You do know who took Daytona that year right? It wasn't a small dirt bike I'll give you a hint. You can tune a Yamaha, but you can't tune-a-fish. Still makes a great "street tracker" "Hughes Handbuilt" Re-phases the engines to a 277 degrees. That engine 'ROARS'!!! ✌️😎👍
@pnotuner1
@pnotuner1 10 ай бұрын
I had a 1980 xs650 and it just fit my style. Now that I am old I am getting the itch for another one. I am almost tempted to check into the next generation of this bike which was the Virago. It carried on the styling but in my mind improved on it with the longer and lower visage and riding position. And the v-twin power gave it great balance. But I just can't get over the xs 650 and am actively looking for another one. I looked at one last week that was stored outside over 20 years and needed everything. Fairy low miles and the engine had good compression and no oil leaks, but I shyed away from it. It sold a couple days later. Se la vie. But I feel like I made the right decision.
@Stu718
@Stu718 3 ай бұрын
Enjoyed my xs650. They are inclined to steering shake if pushed too hard.
@gusdogbrownlab435
@gusdogbrownlab435 2 жыл бұрын
Great bike..typical Japanese...have a look what's out there already and build a better version
@crudboy12
@crudboy12 2 жыл бұрын
I have a '80 and I have had the side cover come off. Later bikes use a spring loaded latch system which was missing on mine. I ended up making a replacement one from scratch after I painted the covers so that I wouldn't mess them up lol.
@ronnaveau4801
@ronnaveau4801 Жыл бұрын
Had the ,,same bike,,now try ,,,opening it ,up ,really fast 😂😂😂
@csj9619
@csj9619 Жыл бұрын
Xs650 engine was actually designed by Triumph, but outdated before it was even released, so they sold it to Yamaha, which wanted to develop a street/cruiser motorcycle for the US market.
@patrickpoisson9851
@patrickpoisson9851 10 ай бұрын
Triumph had nothing to do with the design of this engine.
@RD-650
@RD-650 8 ай бұрын
Where are you coming from it was never designed by triumph i bet they wish they had though
@vonryansexpress
@vonryansexpress Жыл бұрын
The Triumphs did in fact have electric starts towards the end of production . . . See the "Executive" model for example .
@michaellawrence5492
@michaellawrence5492 2 жыл бұрын
Carbs on the stock sx650 can vapor lock sometime. Unlike a BSA or Triumph you don't have air flowing freely around the filter heads
@throttlecompany
@throttlecompany 2 жыл бұрын
Filter heads?
@michaellawrence5492
@michaellawrence5492 2 жыл бұрын
@@throttlecompany OK air Filter, cover, body, box, unit, part, piece, or as I name it on a British bike Head Ha!
@RD-650
@RD-650 8 ай бұрын
Never known it
@gregoryfraz
@gregoryfraz Жыл бұрын
Had one
@skymningforelsket1302
@skymningforelsket1302 2 жыл бұрын
The Bonneville got a disk brake in 1973, so just a year later. I owned this exact bike - a 1972 Yamaha XS 650 in red and white. Rode it for a whole summer. I thought it was slow. Especially coming off a hot-rodded Bonneville. I think my Triumph was making about 60 horsepower, and this bike makes about 40
@qpqp1236
@qpqp1236 Жыл бұрын
It makes 52 horsepower. I owned the same bike as well.
@skymningforelsket1302
@skymningforelsket1302 Жыл бұрын
@@qpqp1236 I doubt it. I'd be surprised if it made more than 40 hp at the back wheel, in factory trim
@qpqp1236
@qpqp1236 Жыл бұрын
@@skymningforelsket1302 I bought my 1972 XS2 650 from Ton van Heugten in 1978. In 1981 he was the first Dutchman to win the world title sidecarcross, together with Frits Kiggen. He used XS 650 block with a 980 cc big bore kit. I don’t know how many hp a factory bike had at the rear wheel. It had 52 hp at the crankshaft. When they were built in 1972 they were considered to be strong and fast bikes and above all virtually indestructible.
@AndyNE1979
@AndyNE1979 Жыл бұрын
Parts fell off and engine dies while a short trip. This motorcycle is really the most english motorcycle from japan. 😉😉 I like your video and the XS 650.
@michaellawrence5492
@michaellawrence5492 2 жыл бұрын
Found an all stock 1983 XS 650 heritage limited special in 2020 with 13600 miles always sheltered with a story as to how this could be, Ha! What I wish to share though is that I find their final drive ratio for this model was a bad choice done by Yamaha. They placed a 16 inch rear wheel on these models which sure took some real sport out of them to say the least compared to the 18 inch rears models they had earlier but it sure made them more stubborn to staying straight at speed compared to an 18 which could give a rider a wobblier moment during speed. You would think Yamaha could have considered this design just a little bit more now doing this cruiser image thing to the SX model during their last few years. The earlier years could have been better named heritage than the last years. The stock is 17 front 34 tooth rear sprocket and @ 55mph it is around 3600rpm. I changed it to 17 front 30 tooth rear and @55mph it is now around 3100-3200 rpm's and 40mph is around 2000 rpm instead of 2500 all done in fifth gear. Whole heck much better feeling etc. machine with this ratio set up..
@30smsuperstrat
@30smsuperstrat 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the 80s XS650s and they looked like Puke. I never would have thought they would have started out looking so good. What the heck was the Yamaha development team thinking having a British styled engine that they then turned the motorcycle into a Harley copy🤨. What has the Yamaha development team been sleeping under in the last 10 years? They could have brought back a modern version to compete in this segment!😳
@alexdarmstaedter454
@alexdarmstaedter454 3 күн бұрын
Actually it is built VERY different from a triumph. Yes it was targeting the Triumph crowd, but everything is different. I have both and have built them for years so I know. Triumph used an electric start before the end, last few years. Gotta say, my two triumphs are faster and really actually look a lot cleaner and more beautiful, but the XS us more planted and feels more stable. Parts are heavier duty and there is no tappet noise. And, it does look really nice. i have a 76 with the French Blue paint and get lots of compliments on it.
@fredfish4316
@fredfish4316 2 жыл бұрын
They handled so bad we called them widow-makers in the day. Didn't come out in red livery though, as far as I recall.
@throttlecompany
@throttlecompany 2 жыл бұрын
This is original paint, thanks for watching!
@RD-650
@RD-650 8 ай бұрын
It was made out to not handle only because it threatened the british market
@kdsowen2882
@kdsowen2882 2 жыл бұрын
Your roads look as bad as Central-Africa ! Hard to compare the XS650 motor to a Triumph motor , Yamaha produced a bullet-proof engine with roller-bearings and horizonal-split cases that didnt leak oil everywhere. The exact opposite of the 'Brit' . Your bike sounds great, the early ones had a bit more Hp than later XS's , higher compression too.
@RD-650
@RD-650 8 ай бұрын
Fully agree
@timothyahernRoxyCat
@timothyahernRoxyCat 2 жыл бұрын
The Harley Sportster, by the way, was made to "copy" Brit bikes too.
@PrettyUglyR6
@PrettyUglyR6 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 16 and I want to buy this as my first motorcycle do u recommend it ? How often do you need repairs I found one of these in really good condition for 2800 should I get it
@throttlecompany
@throttlecompany 2 жыл бұрын
This is a tough one. For your situation, your priority should be reliability. Which might rule out a vintage bike altogether. That being said you will typically help out your future self by spending more now to get a nicer, running bike now. $2,800 can be a good deal on an XS650 but there are a ton of factors. Like condition and how well it runs.
@fredfish4316
@fredfish4316 2 жыл бұрын
No. Lots of 500, 650, 750 modern twins that handle superbly, more power in a better range, have ABS, excellent brakes, better fuel consumption, cheap servicing and will run forever. Could even take them out on a track day if you want to go a bit fast. XS1 or 2 looks great .... but you will fall off.
@patrickpoisson9851
@patrickpoisson9851 10 ай бұрын
Had that bike same year. Not a copy of the Triumph. Name an overhead cam Triumph with horizontal split cases! The only similarity was cc and a twin.
@RD-650
@RD-650 8 ай бұрын
And the triumph leaked
@kdsowen2882
@kdsowen2882 Жыл бұрын
69 was the first one, this is a TX650 also, not an XS .it must be a Very late 72 as well, because they didn't have electric start till 73 . Maybe its got a 73 motor in a 72 frame ? who knows, nice bike though
@throttlecompany
@throttlecompany Жыл бұрын
Nothing you said is true, have a good one!
@kdsowen2882
@kdsowen2882 Жыл бұрын
@@throttlecompany Two Collector -friends , have 69's , released New here in 1969 NZ , TX, came after the XS1-2 , first of the electric-start and the better (strength-gusseted-frame ) I have the-first-model electric-start 1973 TX650 , with the goofy decompress which was later deleted . From Wika : The Yamaha XS650 is a mid-size[2] motorcycle made by Yamaha Motor Company. The standard model was introduced in October 1969,and produced through 1979. Model history The 1970 model was designated the XS-1.[4] Subsequent Yamaha Xs650 models[5] were XS-1B (1971), XS-2 (1972), then TX650/XS2B (1973), TX650-A (1974), XS650B (1975), XS650C (1976), XS-D (1977), XS-E (1978), XS-F (1979).
@throttlecompany
@throttlecompany Жыл бұрын
You are wrong and your reference doesn’t say anything about electric start or anything contradictory to what I’ve said. I’ve had 2 of these and they both had electric start. Both were 1972 XS650/XS-2. Please just stop this nonsense.
@jamesfarrell8346
@jamesfarrell8346 9 ай бұрын
Throttle Co. You're absolutely right.
@6056Fseibu
@6056Fseibu 3 ай бұрын
珍しいお色ですね。
@joeblow7868
@joeblow7868 2 жыл бұрын
I do not see it for sale on your site.
@throttlecompany
@throttlecompany 2 жыл бұрын
throttlecompany.com/product/1972-yamaha-xs650-xs2/
@billcochran4072
@billcochran4072 2 жыл бұрын
Honda had a 450 that had a similar engine design.
@Marshal-ek8xp
@Marshal-ek8xp 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing they had in common was they were both parallel twins, The Honda was DOHC and the Yamaha was SOHC.
@williamdejeffrio9701
@williamdejeffrio9701 9 ай бұрын
@@Marshal-ek8xp Furthermore the Honda had a 180 degree crank while the Yamaha had a 360 degree crank.
@indamood8806
@indamood8806 9 ай бұрын
Yes, they were copying british bikes, but they made it better than the originals... 😁😁😁 No oil spots on the garage floor anymore... 😁😁😁
@bobmarlowe3390
@bobmarlowe3390 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Yamaha trombone.
@fredfish4316
@fredfish4316 2 жыл бұрын
I got a yamaha golf club.
@wirenutt57
@wirenutt57 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Yamaha XS650, a Yamaha stereo receiver, and a Yamaha PSR-290 portable keyboard.
@ericnelson966
@ericnelson966 Жыл бұрын
Flywheel weight
@throttlecompany
@throttlecompany Жыл бұрын
Clearly.
@janmuylaert6342
@janmuylaert6342 9 ай бұрын
I don't like the hard way you shift to first gear.
@marvinbanka7592
@marvinbanka7592 2 жыл бұрын
Yamaha was making street bikes way before this 650.
@wasp1961
@wasp1961 Жыл бұрын
Yes but the XS was their first 4 stroke
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