IN THE SADDLE, ON HORSEBACK - The art of war of the conquest-era Magyars

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Күн бұрын

MAGYAR VÁLTOZAT: • LOVAKON, NYERGEKBEN - ...
The movie takes the viewer back to the 10th century, familiarizing him/her with the art of war practiced during the Hungarian conquest of the Carpathian Basin. The journey starts with the making of the weapons themselves, guides the viewer through their methods of use and ends with the analysis of the campaigns following the conquest. Thus, it discusses problematic aspects related to warfighting as practiced during the era.
00:00 Introduction
03:16 The bow
04:50 The quiver
05:49 The arrow
06:38 The bowcase
07:20 The archer's equipment
08:40 Metalsmelting
10:24 The gunsmith
11:13 The lance
11:45 The sabre
14:07 The armourer
15:33 The magyar light cavalry
17:04 The magyar heavy cavalry
18:30 The military organization
19:56 The military endeavors
21:20 Strategy and tactics
22:44 The battle at Brenta river (899)
23:45 The end of the military endeavors
25:52 The source material used in the movie
The movie is the result of the scientific cooperation between the Eötvös Loránd Kutatási Hálózat ‪@HUN-REN‬ , the PPKE Régészettudományi Intézete ‪@pazmanyegyetem‬ and the Digitális Legendárium workgroup ‪@Digitalislegendarium‬. It was also made possible by the generous support of private individuals.
Reenactment groups that participated in the making of the movie:
Adithiel
Keleti Szövetség
Magyar Történelmi Íjász Társaság
Nyugati Gyepük Pajzsa Haditorna Egyesület
Páncélkovács.hu
Zengő Nyíl Történelmi Íjász Iskola és Kísérleti Régészeti Műhely

Пікірлер: 175

@sebihucke5932 Жыл бұрын

As a reenactor of ancient cavalry myself, this is by far the best edutainment video I have ever seen. Even better than I thought could be possible. The way the single shots are so minimalistic and short, with such well lived movemets in fighting AND crafting really immerses me into the information given. Which is perfectly researched, interpreted and then shown. All that in BEAUTIFUL reconstructions of clothes, weaponry and living conditions. Thank you so much. Please more where that came from, I believe videos like this could change the way history can be made accessible for humanity.

@Digitalislegendarium Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words!

@noorbash3885 Жыл бұрын

Great video! I'm Bashkir (Bashkort) from Bashkortostan Republic. I read that we have common ancestors. I'm descent from Yurmaty tribe which is also mentioned as Magyar tribe on Danube (dyarmat) . I think the number of Yurmaty in Bashkortostan is about 15000-20000 people. I wish I knew Hungarian language and visited Hungary

@Digitalislegendarium Жыл бұрын

Thank you Noor Bash! Learning hungarian language is a bit difficult, but not impossible :)

@krisztianpinter4535 9 ай бұрын

If you speak English, it is enough😊We would happy to see you in our country

@noorbash3885 9 ай бұрын

@@krisztianpinter4535 yes, I speak English. I'll definitely visit some day . Thanks 🙏

@tengribows5533 5 ай бұрын

Hi Noorbash, where did you readed about common ancestors, it's interesting! I readed about Magyars, they were europoid type, nomads from the ugric language family. What I readed about Bashkirs is that their ancestors were a turkic language family, so mongoloids. Even the language is so different. I see only similarities in nomadic ways of life. But yeah if we will go deeper we all are brothers and sisters withs same ancestors :) And all ethnicities and nations are so mixed nowadays.... So who knows :) GREATE VIDEO!

@user-fo1wi7zz2u 2 ай бұрын

You should then visit the town of Balassagyarmat, Northern Hungary. Or Balassayurmaty. Named after the Yurmaty tribe.

@GaMeR11sHoT Жыл бұрын

Wonderfully crafted piece of work! As a descendant of nomadic people myself, I've always had an affinity and respect for other nomadic peoples and heritages born out of the saddle. The Magyars certainly are no exception to the rule.

@alexanderlejon9958 Жыл бұрын

I consider Hungarians (Magyars if you wish) as special cause they were the only nomads that came to carpatian basin (there were plenty Huns, Avars, Cumas, Pechenegs etc.) to be able to survive in the middle of Europe.

@alex-ff1mp 11 ай бұрын

@@alexanderlejon9958 from genetic perspective not much (estimated 3%), but culturally yes, indeed.

@nicktrueman224 Ай бұрын

When the book Ancient Hungarians came out and Europas Mitte Um I made my magyar heavy cavalry and horse archer kit apart from the bow that Csaba Grozer made for me. It was great making the ornamentted tree of life belt plaques sabertache and sabre. The Magyars never get the credit they are due because of the viking love affair people have. Everything I made was a copy of a original piece using the same sizes and techniques in making these items. I am a silversmith so lucky. That was over 20yrs ago!

@yoshiamita6758 Жыл бұрын

Wonderful display of Magyar material culture, love every detail, the saber,the belt,the ornamentation, all very Magyar, thank you very much

@Zuzyandr Жыл бұрын

Thanks for video from ancient magyar homeland - Bashkiria. Interesting video and it's great that you attracted to work reenactors - looks cool and very accurate.

@hungarostudio Жыл бұрын

😍🇭🇺

@danielwarren8539 Жыл бұрын

It's great to see people keeping those skills alive.

@zoranpavlovic9540 Жыл бұрын

Great documentary, great production, carefully chosen details with valid artisans, valid informations, not unnecessary content that would drown viewer = Thumbs up! 👍🇭🇺

@WarDogMadness 11 ай бұрын

From the kit to the skills on show, absolutely fantastic job well done guys.

@mikeorick6898 Жыл бұрын

“A sagittis Hungarorum libera nos, Domine!” “Lord save us from the arrows of Hungarians” Won battles at Brents, Pressburg, Eisenach, Augsburg, Rednitz, Eresburg, Puchen, Lombardy, Brescia, Alsace, Orleans, and Rome.

@gyulaerdei3180 5 күн бұрын

Azoktól mentsd meg - akikre a Magyarok nyilai ,- irányulnak ! *

@georgesakellaropoulos8162 Жыл бұрын

I'd easily watch a much longer program with more detail.

@tiborjarfas2926 Ай бұрын

Nagyon jól sikerült kisfilm, a magyarság kialakulásáról és életviteléről ! Remek ötlet ,hogy angolul van alábeszélve ! Talán változik valamit a rólunk alkotott szemlélet az idegen szemével ! És , azok a hadjáratok az ő országaik és hatalmuk megszilárdításához volt segítség , mint a fosztogatás ! Lásd a lombardokat, frankokat és a német őrgrófságok megszilárdulását . Csehek is kaptak , egy országot a mi vérünkön, és az osztrákok csírái is akkor bontakoztak ! És , mi lett a fizetség !? Az összes ,a mi vérünket szívja !

@ninjaelbow Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I want to watch. Informative, instructive, inspiring (for a reenactor).

@Digitalislegendarium Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@gozer87 Жыл бұрын

Excellent! I've been fascinated by the Magyar people for years.

@AmHaArez Жыл бұрын

Modern Magyars are descendants of Slavic serves. They are mankurts speaking a funny language

@mihalybormester8736 Жыл бұрын

@@AmHaArez nope bro, 1/3 slavic, 1/3 germanic and 1/3 latin, im mostly latin blood Hungarian, with few percent asian, so nope slavic.

@gabormartha5255 8 ай бұрын

@@AmHaArez, olyan buta vagy, hogy kicsúfolni se lehet téged...

@-dorkoka2104 6 ай бұрын

@@AmHaArez The Croats and the Slovaks are Slavicized, and the Slovaks are peoples of the Carpathian Basin who are even experiencing a Germanic influence. The kinship is understandable. The Slovaks are closer to us than the Czechs, who are Moravians. They formed a union called Czechoslovakia with them. Czechs sucked them well. There's one more thing you should know about that, the movie talked about Huns, but the basic population of the Carpathian basin is:magyar.

@gyulaerdei3180 2 ай бұрын

@@AmHaArez - a Magyarok - Szkíták ! ! ! :)

@howardamey7228 Жыл бұрын

EXCELLENT! A wonderfully presented piece. A heritage that is deeply steeped in tradition.

@Kthulh Жыл бұрын

Fascinating production!!!! Well, congratulations and respect to the creators for this amazing work!!! This nice presentation is a thorough and comprehensive insight into the fighting style of the ancient Hungarians.

@bobthompson4133 Жыл бұрын

My granddad was in the 12th royal lancers before mechanization. He loved/hated horses and lances which he was trained with.

@bonnerapplegate4824 3 ай бұрын

This is an amazing documentary, and very well done, I have owned a Magyar bow for a few years and love it and now I can make or find the full amazing equipment these mighty warriors carried!

@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory Жыл бұрын

Very impressive production and appreciated the details of armaments and equipment!

@lazylarper94 7 ай бұрын

This was super well made! Respect to the reenactors involved in this!

@justincastillo9345 Жыл бұрын

Amazing production!

@tengriguidesmysteps960 Жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@magyararcher7478 Жыл бұрын

Ez nagyon jo volt. Sok koszonet erte! 🤘🐺

@RyanRyzzo Жыл бұрын

Juicy little documentary! Appreciate the references to artifacts at the end.

@torvicheval1709 Жыл бұрын

This is so cool and so very interesting, I love everything about this film. Thank you so much!

@geneclayton2467 Жыл бұрын

Enjoyed this very much. An outstanding film!

@Digitalislegendarium Жыл бұрын

Thank you Gene!

@Useaname Жыл бұрын

Really excellent. The traditional manufacturing methods are incredible. Thank you.

@SmokeDog1871 Жыл бұрын

Great stuff, recreating much of this for our 919 mid overhaul of Attila total war

@leolopiccol78 11 ай бұрын

Wonderful documentary ❤

@mk14m0 8 ай бұрын

Superb video.

@andhelm7097 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for your very interesting presentation.😊 I have learnt a great deal.

@Zuzyandr Жыл бұрын

Have you any plans to make videos about separate aspects of authentic crafts shown in this video - bow making, fletching, blacksmith? There's no too much videos about experimental arheology and historical reenactments of crafts, and your production looks very professional and will be interesting to see everything you showed in more detailed videos.

@sebihucke5932 Жыл бұрын

especially because it seems like the whole process (or at least most of the crucial aspects) of crafting have already been shot for this video, and would only have to be recycled in more detail.

@Digitalislegendarium Жыл бұрын

Hello! Its a good idea! We will discuss it soon!

@yvelaine 8 ай бұрын

Interesting thank you .

@alexanderlejon9958 Жыл бұрын

Thank for great video! Is there any detailed picture of that Magyar knife from 11:12? Would love to take a closer look onto it!

@Digitalislegendarium Жыл бұрын

Hello Alexander! I will ask the reenactor. :)

@Digitalislegendarium Жыл бұрын

Hello Alexander! Here you are: drive.google.com/file/d/1Ud8SOGQdVNZGQi4nW3AqcG5QOscpauP9/view?usp=share_link

@alexanderlejon9958 Жыл бұрын

@@Digitalislegendarium Hello there, thank you very much! It looks great!

@orgovang Жыл бұрын

Jó kis fílm , magyarul is láttam már de azért nem ártott volna némi magyar feliratozás! Néhány szereplőt , személyessen is ismerek közülük!

@Digitalislegendarium Жыл бұрын

Nem egészen értem mire szeretne kilyukadni. Van egy teljesen magyar verzió, amit saját bevallása szerint ön is látott már. Miért tennénk az angolra magyar feliratot? :)

@krisztianpinter4535 9 ай бұрын

Mert kötekedni akart..

@alexisdrmdcl Жыл бұрын

Beautiful documentary ! And i love this music, where come from ?

@Digitalislegendarium Жыл бұрын

Dear Alexis! It was composed for the film.

@alexisdrmdcl Жыл бұрын

@@Digitalislegendarium it's cool if one day you want to make an soundtrack of this !

@GM-os6fo 9 ай бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sMupotGrxpe9p30.htmlsi=8m3OZCq17yZSRr3A Most part of the music's are here

@nukhetyavuz 9 ай бұрын

it must be times long before that...at least a few thousand years ago with the bronz age...but thanks for the details❤

@demiryldrm1088 10 ай бұрын

Hajra Touran!

@elbuscho1567 Жыл бұрын

I ❤️ IT. 🇭🇺🤘🏼🧔🏻🤘🏼🇭🇺

@karlgunther-turkisharchery4272 Жыл бұрын

Did Magyars use thumb draw or three finger draw on their bows? Who knows? - Maybe during the conquest era in the 9th and 10th century they used thumb draw and adapted three finger draw later from Western European people? The following is a historical source: In 1432, Bertrandon de La Brocq́uière, a traveler from Burgundy, while returning from Jerusalem traversed Hungary and in his book noted about Turkish and Hungarian archery; “Their bows are like those of the Turks, but not so good nor so strong; and they do not use them so well as Turks do. The Hungarians pull the string with three fingers, and the Turks with the thumb and ring.” (Hungarian cavalry from Chronica Picta, 1360’s, National Széchényi Library Archive, Budapest)

@GM-os6fo 9 ай бұрын

1432 is not 860 AD

@karlgunther-turkisharchery4272 9 ай бұрын

@@GM-os6fo Exactly what I said...

@ayhanfedai5013 7 ай бұрын

interesting that could be because they settled and didnt need much hunting and fighting like Turks or Cumans Kipchaks also they probabbly adopted more European armors and style since land is more suitable to European horses instead Euroasian; so their fighting changed from steppes to more European but they still had it as tradition

@GM-os6fo Жыл бұрын

What is the music under the video pls?

@Bgyarmati Жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sMupotGrxpe9p30.html

@ZakkWyldeman Жыл бұрын

No one would've put the arrows upside down into the arrow-quiver like so. With sharp cutting edges its inpossible to take them out safely unless ones doing it very slow and carefully. that's diappiontingly unaccurate. According to Dr. Hidán Csaba, the nomad Magyars never took out more than one arrow at the time, thats what the quiver for: to keep the arrows there untill actually shoting them.

@GM-os6fo Жыл бұрын

They placed that way too cuz they used different type of arrow tips

@Digitalislegendarium Жыл бұрын

Dear Zakk! Actually it works perfectly, and way better, than the other way. In this case they could easely choose between the different arrow types. This theory was tested in the last years, and noone ever cut his fingers with the sharpened arrowhead. That is why it was represented in the film.

@-dorkoka2104 6 ай бұрын

There was a case where they carried the quiver that way, but you are right, otherwise the mountains were not facing upwards! I don't know why they invented this? The length of the arrows changed a few centimeters, and so did the color of the plumage. From this, they knew which one was needed when. In addition, the Hungarians put 10 canes in their hands in a special grip. The tips are always forged and sharpened with an ideal entry angle of 27 degrees. It also pierced the armor of the heavy cavalry.

@mrroyale5688 Жыл бұрын

Arnulf és Gyermek Lajos nem keleti frank királyok voltak? E műben már 880 körül felbomlott ez a királyság. Nekem azt tanították, hogy Gyermek Lajos halálával bomlik fel.

@georgepats1168 5 ай бұрын

Where can I find the soundtrack ?

@Digitalislegendarium 5 ай бұрын

Hello! There is no soundtrack in classical meaning. Unfortunately, the music only works with the sounding of the film.

@georgepats1168 5 ай бұрын

@@Digitalislegendarium so I can't find it in KZfaq, is there no link if I understand ?

@Digitalislegendarium 5 ай бұрын

@@georgepats1168 exactly! Unfortunately, there is no independent soundtrack. We've recorded several tracks of instrumental music and combined them with sound effects and narration.

@georgepats1168 5 ай бұрын

@@Digitalislegendarium will you post them ?

@Digitalislegendarium 5 ай бұрын

@@georgepats1168 What do you mean?

@mrroyale5688 Жыл бұрын

Weren't Arnulf and Louis the Child kings of the Franks in the East? In this work, this kingdom was already broken up around 880. I was taught that it dissolved with the death of Louis the Child.

@Digitalislegendarium Жыл бұрын

No it is not dissolved in 880. Thats why we used the different shades of yellow for the part of the country.

@belagyanta7 Жыл бұрын

Nem hinném hogy már akkor volt sváb fejü magyarok...de azon kívül, a mesterségek bemutatása profi!

@Sabartoasfaloi Жыл бұрын

Eleink europidok voltak

@belagyanta7 Жыл бұрын

@@Sabartoasfaloi a svábok elődjei a kelet európai vadász-gyűtőgető europíd fajtáját örökőlték főleg (fehér bőr, világos haj, hosszú fej). A honfoglalók pedig, a proto-európíd nyugat európai vadász-gyűtőgető fajtáját örökőlték főleg (sötét bőr, sötét haj, széles és szögletes arc), kisebb részben ugor-török elemekkel! Tény hogy embertanilag, a honfoglalók koponyája a tipikus "cromagnon ember" (i2a) tipusát mutatja nagyobb részében!

@Sabartoasfaloi Жыл бұрын

@@belagyanta7 Jézus

@miklosbalogh7540 Жыл бұрын

Légy erős: voltak! A kelet-balti magyar típus egyik jellemzője a világos szem/bőr és sötétszőke haj volt. Mai szemmel ezt "sváb fejű"-nek is mondhatnánk akár.

@attilapalotas1915 Жыл бұрын

🤣

@johnneymc Жыл бұрын

TIME TO RECLAIM THE LOST TERRITORIES OF THE GREATER HUNGARY !!!

@ayhanfedai5013 7 ай бұрын

17:13 interesting didnt know Magyars had "Bahadur" too . i read some where Huns famous leader Modu was a Chineese bastardization of Bahadur

@Alomtancos Жыл бұрын

Wherrre can I pay for this music, please?

@Bgyarmati Жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sMupotGrxpe9p30.html

@copiaka 11 ай бұрын

The truth is the Hungarians came from Mars, the video should start from there.😉😉😉

@eldarion5919 11 ай бұрын

Nonsense! We obviously came from the star, Sirius. 😂😂

@krisztianpinter4535 9 ай бұрын

Ne trollkodjatok

@gez-ye-oku 9 ай бұрын

Türkçe lütfen. Where is the Turkish version? Translation?

@Digitalislegendarium 9 ай бұрын

Dear gez-ye-oku! There is no türkish version so far.

@gez-ye-oku 9 ай бұрын

@@Digitalislegendarium I saw Russian version of this video. 😃 Turkish people dose not know English too like Russians. Please Török version, that people in Türkiye watch and understand more about their past. 😇

@vondobrogi8196 7 ай бұрын

Itt a kis fogaskerékre kattintva, aztán az automatikus fordításra, be lehet állítani a kívánt nyelvre a fordítás szövegét.

@vondobrogi8196 7 ай бұрын

@@gez-ye-oku Itt a kis fogaskerékre kattintva, aztán az automatikus fordításra, be lehet állítani a kívánt nyelvre a fordítás szövegét.

@csabas1971 8 ай бұрын

Back to Baktrian kingdom, for example the Sasanida Persian state paying tax for the Hun or Scythians. Same law in Europe. No stopping age of Attila or Avars or Magyars. So if the organisation hierarchy is the same. Only just a tax rate growing up. Why do not believe if the that age books talking about same state. One problem with the last 150 years historians. brand new models, the size of the power. Attila kept the 4 Tetrarchy. So the Holly Roman Empire tec was in hierarchy. MAGREB escaped after 100 years but the other 3 was standing for 1400 years. Quiet BIG BIG thing to pretend that is invisible!

@docholiday7975 8 ай бұрын

Please go back to whoever taught you English and ask for a refund, your grammar is atrocious.

@gyulaerdei3180 6 күн бұрын

Magyarország - nem eueópában van ..... ? Akkor , nyelve - miiért nincs a forditóban ? *

@Digitalislegendarium 5 күн бұрын

Amiért sok más európai országé sincs. Túl kicsik, és jelenleg nem éri meg a youtubenak.

@Digitalislegendarium 5 күн бұрын

Egyébként magyarul is fent van film a csatornákon, ahogyan az kb 3 helyen fel van tüntetve.

@gyulaerdei3180 5 күн бұрын

Régen, a kárpat- medence népessége - nagyobb volt , mint - európáé... ! ! ! * :) - a tisztesség nem fontos európának , csak az... ami megéri ! ..... * Volt oldal - amelyik - betette... -nem tudom hogyan ? :)

@Baso-sama 6 ай бұрын

szkájdia? :D scythia, az angolok úgy ejtik hogy "szitia". miért nem olyanokkal csináltatják a szinkront akik tudnak is angolul?

@Digitalislegendarium 6 ай бұрын

Az úriember Birminghamben el születésétől fogva, szerintem eléggé angol...

@Baso-sama 6 ай бұрын

@@Digitalislegendarium akkor lehet csak a történelmi fogalmakkal nincs nagy barátságban. az ilyen videókhoz az is kell

@foldvary_laszlo 5 ай бұрын

contradictions.. the guy in the video show us how they made the weapons, but you tel us, it was: "Trade or plunder?" WTF? You relay think we don't believe what we see or already know? Who are you by the way? I guess MTA= Magyartalanitó Tudományos Akadémia? OK no Questions.. HU: Ott mutatja be hogyan készítette a fegyvert. Nem! Azt rablások vagy kereskedelem által szerezte be. Na ezt az MTA baromságot nem eszi már rég senki! Meny a fenébe MTA nincs rád szükség!

@Digitalislegendarium 5 ай бұрын

@foldvary_laszlo There is no contradiction: "The manufacture of this equipment required a high degree of specialist knowledge and workshop capacity, which was NOT NECCESARLY available in the Carpathian Basin. The Magyars of the time, therefore, acquired them, AT LEAST IN PART, through trade or plunder or as gifts." Which means they most likely manufactured and bought that kind of goods. I hope it helped... HU: Kedves László! "E fegyverek előállítása magas fokú szakmai tudást és műhelykapacitást igényelt, ami a Kárpát-medencében NEM FELTÉTLENÜL állt rendelkezésre. Eleink ezért LEGALÁBB RÉSZBEN kereskedelemi áruként, zsákmányként, esetleg ajándékként jutottak hozzájuk." Ha már idéz, idézzen pontosan, és a szövegértés gyakorlása sem hátrány. Értem én, hogy valamit nem képes beletuszkolni az ön által favorizált, több évtizedes tévhit ketrecbe, de kérem ettől kiméljen meg minket. További előny, ha tud olvasni, ebben az esetben láthatta volna, hogy az MTA-nak semmi köze nem volt a filmhez. Nem mintha bármi gond lenne az MTA-val, ugye. Egyébként ön tudja, hogy kik a tagjai az MTA-n belüli kutatócsportoknak? Költői kérdés volt...

@gyulaerdei3180 5 күн бұрын

... és portugália , éa vietnam... - megéri ? ... Nem erről szól - ez politika. Célja - ..hogy a Magyar - ne legyen benne a történelemben ! Európa - ausztriánál végetér ..... - a többi, az csak - "gyarmat ! ... * - Ez lenne - Európa ... ? Igen ! ..... 😮 *

@Digitalislegendarium 5 күн бұрын

Kedves Gyula! Portugálul nagyságrendekkel több ember beszél mint magyarul. Vietnamiul is, ráadásul tudtommal nem európai ország. Nem akarom kiabranditani, de a lőtéri kutyát nem erdekeljuk a világpolitikában. Ahogyan a szlovákok, csehek, szlovének, szerbek stb sem. Kicsik vagyunk, zéró gazdasági erővel. Itt pedig csak a profit érdekes.

@gyulaerdei3180 5 күн бұрын

@@Digitalislegendarium - Portuges - lakossága - 8 000 000 ..... ! :)

@Digitalislegendarium 3 күн бұрын

@@gyulaerdei3180 Angola, Brazilia, Cape Verde, Kelet Timor, Guinea Bissau, Macau, Mozambique, Portugalia, São Tomé and Príncipe. Ez mondjuk olyan 3-400 millió ember.

@gyulaerdei3180 3 күн бұрын

@@Digitalislegendarium - nem - A probléma az , hogy európa - ausztriánál... - végetér " ! ! ! * ...és makaó - nem európaban van ..... ! Magyarország , viszont európában van - a mértani közepén !!! ..... :)

@Digitalislegendarium 3 күн бұрын

@@gyulaerdei3180 Kedves uram! Ez mit sem változtat azon a tényen, hogy portugálul nagyságrendekkel többen beszélnek mint magyarul. Egyszerűen jobban megéri. Ezért lett erre a nyelvre fejlesztve az autómata fordítás és nem magyarra.

@GoldandPearl Ай бұрын

All these talking and nobody called they are turkic... fucking helll..

@spizaetus Жыл бұрын

Invaders, not conquerers.

@anotherhistoryenthusiast5874 Жыл бұрын

Invader: replaces already existing society. Like early arabs. Conquerer: tames and integrates into already existing society. Like Macedons of Alexander. Correct me if I am wrong, but Hungarians don't seem like living in yurts and practicing pagan rituals today or in the last 1000 years.

@miklosbalogh7540 Жыл бұрын

A magyarok Hódítók voltak a Kárpát medencében. Minimum 1700 éve kezdődött és több hullámban zajlott. Maga az ősi kultúra pedig egy több ezer éves kulturkör része. Az általad említett megszállók azok egy másik faj. Ezek a megszállók a 19.században mesterségesen kreáltak nyelvet,történelmet,országot maguknak. Állításuk szerint ősi nép, viszont bizonyítani eddig nem sikerült nekik semmit(a jelek szerint nem is fogják)!😂 Mára már viszonylag sok életterületet elloptak/elhazudtak a Magyaroktól,de Árpád hazája mindig is Árpád fiaié/lányaié volt-van-lesz!🇭🇺

@napkalamona Жыл бұрын

just the usual, a frustrated romanian... 😂

@tamaszlav Жыл бұрын

@@napkalamona Don't really understand their frustrstion. Magyars didn't conquer the slopes of Western Balkans, where his Vlach pastorialist ancestors live during the time.

@ayhanfedai5013 7 ай бұрын

@@anotherhistoryenthusiast5874 dude your exapmples are reall weird. alexanders empire was a short lived invader and arabs in Iberia stayed 800 year and integreted until Reqonquista also in Sicily too

@sevenhorse8563 Жыл бұрын

Szomorú. Ez kb felér a National geographic bal f@szságaival . :(

@eldarion5919 Жыл бұрын

Mi a probléma vele?

@lazac33 Жыл бұрын

Én nem láttam ennél pontosabb munkát. Ez a hagyományőrzők és az akadémiai kutatók elképesztőan szép együttműködéséből született.

@eldarion5919 Жыл бұрын

@@lazac33 abszolút egyetértek, el se tudom képzelni, mit lehet kifogásolni rajta…

@sevenhorse8563 Жыл бұрын

@@eldarion5919 Pl le ballagtak eleink egészen Sziciliáig , és nem álltak meg frankhon peremén , "spanyol ország" közepéig hatoltak. Át ugrottak napozni egy kicsit . Akik velük szembe jöttek mindenkit meg csináltak. Nem esett pl szó a nyereg , kengyel , zabla fontosságáról. Meg azért volt kevés kard , szabja mert macerás volt az előállítása, nem nagyon tudom el képzelni hogy tábori körülmények között neki álltak kardot kovácsolni. Stb stb. Ezért gondolom hogy ez egy ilyen National geographic szintű ferditésekke teli lévő ismeret terjesztő filmecske. Ettől függetlenül szép munka. Csak a külföldieknek hamis képet alkot rólunk.

@eldarion5919 Жыл бұрын

@@sevenhorse8563 a lószerszámok fontosságát megértem, az tényleg nem hangzott el így kimondva a filmben, jogos. A szablyákat és kardokat viszont mondták, hogy hogyan készülhettek, már létező vaskohászatot “örököltek” itt a Kárpát-medencében, nem is tábori körülményeket mutattak ott. Szerintem azzal semmi probléma nem volt. A “kalandozásokról” szóló rész pedig a korabeli források és kútfők alapján mondja el, nem tudom, mi vele a probléma. Ezek a jelenleg legfrissebb kutatási eredmények, egy kivételes filmben bemutatva