The Alien leadership must have thought 'these guys are so stupid they just nuked their own people for no reason in self defense.'

1.28 I never knew Ray Liotta had a cameo

Active beacon?!

@@patriceaqa288 heh. never saw the resemblance.

Stealth doesnt mean invisible to radar, just harder to track and given that experts predict stealth to eventually become obsolete to future radars and tech , a space travelling civilization surely had that figured it out

Hahaha

I believe the rise in I-45 that they were hiding behind is an elevated overpass of the freeway hence the rise in an otherwise flat terrain. Obviously the implication was that the rise provided some shielding but an elevated section is a terrible place to hide during a nuclear blast. You'd be better off hiding on I-10 which is dug into the ground as it approaches downtown hence always being shown in flood photographs as being flooded.

I saw it in theaters in Irvine, CA right next to the El Toro Marine vase, we all laughed too since it was a couple miles from us. What a great summer at the movies.

ME TOO! Texas! We took one for the team! Lolol

Why bro?

Bill was NOT presidential material. Poor casting, in my opinion.

@@chrispile3878 he was actually supposed to be a poor president who didn't know how to respond

Forgive them for what?

Leonid Saykin for being a stupid human being haha

@@LeonidSaykin For the nuclear ions that would be in the air and cause skin diseases and other infirmities

Love these little gems XD

And the heat?

Sorry for it

That's South Houston by the University, it always looks like that.

LOL nice joke The Mouse

The irony is that interstellar travel at near light speed or greater would've meant the spaceships could easily survive a nuclear attack. No scientist would've advised a direct attack without first finding a way to undermine whatever shielding they had. The display of using the nuclear weapons is just because the general public has no idea of the science involved.

@@johnwang9914 Yeah. The armor or shielding required to stop a mere dust particle at relativistic speeds is massive.

@@moteroargentino7944 Wouldn't you expect some protection be needed against the extreme distortions of space time near the event horizon of a wormhole? Remember such a wormhole would be a sphere, you would have to go through the event horizon. Our theoretical physicists have speculated that if a blackhole was large enough such as maybe the super massive blackhole found at the centers of galaxies then maybe the distortions would be gradual enough to get close and perhaps through the event horizon but the gravity well doesn't just end at the event horizon and the distortions still increase as you get closer to the center and if you are to travel via a wormhole, you need to pass through the center of the singularity. If anything, wormhole travel would not just need an energy forcefield but a negative energy forcefield which affects space time itself and that would be pretty good at deflecting any projectiles or energy tossed at it.

@@johnwang9914 You're confusing black holes to wormholes.

@@stevendeamon The presumption of wormholes is from the math of blackholes. A wormhole is a blackholes or rather two that are connected through the singularity. All the math behind wormholes are the math of blackholes. I am most certainly not confusing the two as wormholes are categorically black holes.

The sequel was dumb but fun to watch. Too much back office woke going on when it was made.

there are dumb movies but still fun and entertaining to watch. what is the point of watching a movie ?

@@nonaurbizniz7440 that and the Chinese-Communist ass kssing. It wasn't just dumb, but it was pretty disgraceful compared to the patriotic overtones of the first movie.

lmao i spat out my food

True that!

Fanfiction net?

@@marinistXXX could be, but it's plausible

@@marinistXXX no. Canon from the book. A 2nd nuke would of killed it but remember that we believe a nuke is a 1 time killer.

@@equusamans Well fortunately we know that Nuclear Winter is bullshit. The only serious issue would be the amount of fallout created which always last for about 2 weeks and follows the path of wind. If it gets into rain clouds, it will be rained down somewhere. Fortunately out of the eight nations that have nukes, only two nations have the ability to delivery the weapon with a tactical missile, the other 6 will have to use strategic rockets or traditional bombing which might be riskier.

It's actually cannon in the universe that, once it was confirmed that the aliens' shields were down, China and Russia nuked a dozen or more of the city destroyers. You can't really blame them, as this was perhaps a one shot chance at taking these things out, so might as well hit them with the sledgehammer.

For some reason, I'm hearing that last line in Tom Hank's voice from "Catch Me if You Can"

Houston is quickly turning into a shithole, It wouldn't be missed by many.

Alien 0259403: There's always Seattle, bro! Alien 0584329: ThErE's AlWaYs SeAtTlE >:(

Makes you wonder I the aliens still fired since they were already there to make double sure. Lol

DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!!

They still have newspapers? How primitive.

@@johnwang9914 or maybe they are hyper advanced but didn't want to leave the old fashioned newspaper out of the tech tree

@@nikolaiorr8383 When was the last time you purchased a paper newspaper?

@@johnwang9914 about a year ago

@@nikolaiorr8383 A It's ear ago for a product that comes out daily... I rest my case.

And then it’s revealed that they may as well have just farted on it. Talk about rubbing salt in the wound lol

And General William Grey wasn't celebrating either

Max Eisenhardt if the aliens didn’t already destroy Houston during the invasion, it’s been destroyed now. And possibly irradiated to uninhabitable levels forever.

TheNw1218 not forever. Radiation naturally decreases over time.

The Stalker that’s still not forever.

Sounded like a great time!

Was that when you knew you wanted to be a fascist

@tradtke101 Excuse you?

@@mikedemirdjian9976 your profile picture. Sparta was a fascist society built on slave labor. Surely you're aware of helotage?

@@tradtke101 go back to Fortnite ret4rd3d zoomer

I would have destroyed that ship

So we could have simply lobbed ICBMS at the ships and destroyed them? I wonder why no one tried?

@@Bacopa68 ICBMs and for that matter cruise missiles, require satellites to guide and track. The movie explained that most of Earth's satellite network is out so it is logical for the USAF to launch nukes via planes.

@@leonedralev3776 In 1993 there were no US ballistic missiles that required help from satellites. And there still aren't any today. And speaking of planes, there are plenty of planes that could have simply loft bombed nukes onto the ships. US stockpiles are lower than they were in the 1990's, but even now the US maintains many nuclear weapons in Germany and Turkey capable of being fitted onto an F-16. And in the early nineties we still had laydown bombs stationed in Europe. If it took five or six nukes in a few minutes, these ships could have easily been taken out.

@@leonedralev3776 ICBMs and cruise missiles are GPS guided

With that click of a button, you know he has the same emotions as the President: may I be forgiven for my actions.

I like the way Major Kong used nukes in Dr Strangelove

Even when he says locked on and his facial expression. He played this part to perfection

That was Ryan Reynolds.

⁠@@RJ_MacReady Nope.

They still are

They’ll always be a big deal.

@@lucash.7793 thanks I'll use my time machine and go back in time to tell myself.

@@2024Blue. yup.

@@thegooseman90 XD

Lmao, U killed me,🤣😂probably confused the F and scared the shit out of the Aliens. They were thinking this people are willing to sacripised themselves, WT Hell did we get ourselves into lol.

WHAT? Aliens didn't had attacked that city yet?

😂😂😂😂😂

LMAO, !! priceless

Aliens: "A suprise to be sure but a welcome one."

Enter Coronavirus.

@@sucktitles Negative

The alien that was supposed to get the job of shooting the plasma cannon was probably like "DAMN IT! I WANTED TO BLOW UP THE PLACE MYSELF!"

Belka would: [] Like to know your location

@@wayfarer3535 *AVE BELKA*

We wasted a multi billion dollar missile/warhead and an entire city was destroyed in the process, within a matter of minutes.

I think any US President would hesitate at the use of a Nuclear Weapon in any circumstance

@@garyhisgun4996 One would hope ...

@@garyhisgun4996 not Trump...

It's the most powerful weapon a humanities disposal. Any decent human being in a position of leadership would hesitate to using nukes

@@garyhisgun4996 I don't know about Hillary Clinton (if she is president)

War of 1996, never forget

Lmfao!

Corny asf

RIP Russell Casse. 1950-1996. You saved us all with your sacrifice.

Of course why would an interstellar spaceship hover so close to the ground is questionable as well. There would be no reason for them to get closer than say geostationary orbit. Indeed, I would expect attacking aliens to still be out in the Oort cloud diverting comets at the Earth.

Alan Brown Armageddon Reference ? “imagine a Firecracker..

I got the Armageddon reference here!

DUDE IS A FUCKING MOVIE NOT REAL FUCKING LIFE

Since the fighter planes could not penetrate the alien shield that extended to the ground ,which it did according to canon in "The War of the Worlds", the cruise missile likewise would have been stopped by the shield.

manuel ramirez IKR?! Just have the B-2’s escorted by a few fighters while the guys on the mother ship upload the virus. Fire a test missile to make sure the shields are down and then nuke’em. Of course that wouldn’t have been nearly as dramatic.

Luke Petersen the second movie should’ve been about how 3rd world countries managed to take down the ships.. since most of them don’t have much of an Air Force

And make earth a nuclear waste?

just use a high altitude plane and carpet bombing the alien craft... best use a MOAB bomb

Czar bomba!

Legit

Wait till you see the B-21, it's successor.

@@badendhappy2903 Saw its launch but I don't feel the Raider can top up the beautiful design of the B-2. B-21 seems like an inexpensive alternative to B-2.

Well with the corpses at Area 51 bio weapons could have been developed, given that you had idea what there biochemistry is and how it works. But yeah realisticly speaking besides using the Zar Bomb there was not much else to be done

they are people saying that there is a book that tell the story in the perspective of the aliens. the ship's energy shields were reduced to 10% thanks to the nuclear bomb. we just needed one more nuclear bomb to destroy the alien ship😐

@@ivanelias3916 But at what cost? Talk about a Pyrrhic victory. We beat the aliens and obliterate countless cities while nuking hundreds of millions of people.

@@crispinjulius5032 war is that way really cruel. we were facing annahilation👽

@@crispinjulius5032Then evacuate the people i think Its not that hard to run to a bunker

Your observation is way clever than any TED talk

After the first alien attack the secretary of defense tells the President he talked with the joint chiefs of staff and the military was immediately asking the president to authorize a nuclear counter-attack against them but President Wittmore quickly dismissed the idea of using American weapons over the US itself

Loggia was great in this film. Next to Whitmore the general was my favourite character.

There's been over 2000 nuclear tests on Earth and we're still here. 36 nuclear attacks to kill of the destroyers would be worth it

@@Lucky-nv2ph "This comment brought to you by the Office of Nuclear Energy & Department of Defense."

HAHAHAHAHHA EXACTLY

The slow turning is why they fire their missiles from beyond the horizon in real life.

The bomber could have fired from much further away if the president hadnt took so long to say "deploy." He waited until the last second, by which time the bomber was so close it's likely it was wiped out by the blast.

The cameras who gave them position of bomber was on the ground I think.

@@sum9796 :))) Sry buddy, a left turn is a left turn...no matter what perspective.

LMAO

@RubiiX I'm pretty sure that's not canon.

@RubiiX i read it and nothing like that ever comes. Can you point me the page, chapter or paragraph?

When they were on air force one the secretary of defense informs the president that after talking with the Joint Chiefs they military was already asking the president to authorize a nuclear counter attack

@@brummyuk2151 i highly doubt it i know its all fiction but if an alien race actually came to earth (like actually traveled light years to get here) we wouldnt stand a chance in hell a nuke would be like throwing a rock at a tank to an alien race that had to travel probably faster than light speed and dodging black holes and sht we would just get wiped out

They knew how to make films in the 90's.

That was a sequel? I always thought it was a parody.

I never saw the sequel yet I know lol

@@k12rising I imagine that they know how to make movies now as well.

The sequel is the reason why the aliens don't visit us.

Hell a the B2 bomber is some if not our best machinery that's like 2 billion dollars in the air yet these aliens barely get a scratch on their paint 😅

@@lameroad1569 thats why this movie is sooo good, i remember seeing the first time as a kid thinking the nukes will win, but once i saw those were useless i was like how on earth are they going to win?

@@lameroad1569 wrong $500million. that $2b was thr RND ammount

Much more hilarious was mars attack scene where the martians makes a laughing gas out of the nuclear explosion

It's possible the aliens didn't see the bombers.

Comment above says apparently the nuke actually did knockout a large portion of the ship's shield. A second nuke would have destroyed it.

Did they mention if civilians died ?

@@edercortes1960 Did they mention if aliens still bomb Huston?

@@user-ol5rc8ez2p No …not really but the movie implies that New York, Los Angeles, Boston, Atlanta and Philly were destroyed

@@edercortes1960 So, nothing of value was lost. :)

Well 👁👄👁

"Houston we have a problem." -Tom Hanks Apollo 13 That movie was actually released around the same time as Independence Day. Both good movies 👌

I was more pissed off that it literally wasn't even close to Houston on any of the footage, even the freeway signs were wrong... we don't have those here

True. And then they made a ridiculous sequel that we never asked for.

@@corkystorky yeah agree. The sequel was horrible. i guess they rushed it too far, far less detailed and absurd leap technology concept which is clearly not their expertise, no terror at all. soo sad.

corkystorky it was indeed rushed because they had a whole other script involving Will smith, only he dropped out in the middle of production, so the writers had no other choise then to rush it.

Because clearly they were seeking military realism when making this movie.

Only because the president took so long to order "deploy."

That didn’t look like the B83, the largest nuke the B2 uses, and the USA has even bigger nukes at the time.

Fire some more before the shield recovers.

According to novelization, it did actually. It effectively annihilated their shields, and the aliens were in a state of pure shock when it hit.

@@hollywoodmkx Yeah, it knocked their shield strength down to 10%, could you imagine if the US had used a LGM-118 Peacekeeper ICBM armed with 11 W87-0 warheads (each 300kt) would have easily annihilated that alien ship.

"let's allow the americans to destroy their own cities this time" lmao

You'd think the Russians would go ahead with using nukes first lol.

@@SoldierOfFate I think supplemental material makes it clear the Russians and Chinese used nukes on the alien craft in their territory and used their spare craft to assist other countries

Well also no one else other than Russia has the ability to attack with nukes like we do. Russia is the only other nation who can launch a tactical nuke on a tactical missile with direct results. Everyone else has to rely on strategic rockets or traditional bombing to deliver. Russia certainly has more nukes than the US so it wouldn't be strange if they started using them at any given chance. China for example doesn't even have 100 nukes, they might be more willing to wait because it's more precious to hold onto them.

And the observation crew at the bottom. The EMP from the nuke should have fried all their electronics thus rending their vehicle in-operable which would lead them to travel outside and be exposed to radiation..

asuming they move over lightspeed in real space and not in some short of alternate space or dimension (ie: hyperspace in scifi lore)

There is absolutely nothing in this film that indicates they can hit light speed.

@@hollywoodmkx They do. The novel and sequel confirm it.

Don't they use a worm hole in the sequel? So they may not actually be anywhere near lightspeed@@NorthernNorthdude91749

When I saw this scene for the first time, I didn't think that the atomic bombs were useless, but that the film was unrealistic. A nuclear bomb should have dusted the alien ship. The energy requirement to absorb this energy with shields or at least dissipate it would simply be far too high.

@@OpenGL4ever Another person commented in a different thread that in one of the books, written from the aliens point of view, the nuke knocked down the shields to 10% so a second nuke would have taken them out.

​@@majordbag2many overestimate the destructive capabilities of nuclear weapons. The basis of the destructive potential of nuclear bombs is a shock wave due to strong air currents. The plasma ball is destructive at the moment of explosion, but it has a small radius and a short lifetime. From the point of view of physics, the explosion of a nuclear bomb is an artificial star that existed for the shortest possible time. A civilization capable of interstellar flights had to master the technologies of protection from supernovae, the gravitational influence of planets, electromagnetic waves of stars and collisions with asteroids. I strongly doubt that a huge spacecraft that managed to enter the Earth's atmosphere at high speed and at the same time experienced enormous loads will not be able to withstand some kind of nuclear bomb. In fact, in this film, humanity did not have a single chance, except for a viral attack and sabotage. That, against an over-developed alien race is impossible and ineffective. Even today, there are fingerprint, eye, and even genetic passwords. The film is beautiful, but unrealistic. Humanity would accept the fate of the indigenous peoples of America.

​​@@OpenGL4everNot so sure about that. You don't need to absorb or dissipate it, if you can move it away. They could be shielding their ships with the same type of magnetic field that they're using for confinement in a pure fusion reactor. Their weapon seems to be some sort of plasma that explosively disperses. In order to do the level of destruction it does, that's gotta be well into the hundreds of terajoules range. If you can contain that level of energy in a weapons system, then you're capable of enveloping your ship in a field that can shrug off a 750 kiloton nuclear explosion. What I'm basically saying is that they're linking their offensive and defense systems into the same thing: a massive confinement field capable of constraining nearly a petajoule of energy. The ship is a huge magnetic donut that contains a fusion reaction and prevents a fusion reaction from entering.

​@@AlxnickWell, that's a nice fan fiction. We don't even know what kind of field is that. However, these kinds of alien "invasions" are quite cheap. Such an advance species doesn't even have to interact with us directly in the process of an invasion. Take a look at The Dark Forest. The aliens from that book sent a single 1 x 3 meters object. :)

It would have destroyed the shields with that many nukes.

If Remember Correctly The Aliens Almost Got Fucked,It Takes 2 Nukes to Take Down One city Destroyer,That Cia Guy is a Bitch But He Was right Another nuke Would Have Killed it

The only thing protecting the alien ships was the powerful shields. The nukes wouldn’t even be able to penetrate it. They would just end up nuking themselves trying to destroy the destroyer ships. When the shields were disabled, they were able to bring them down. But that was without the shields. So there’s no doubt the nuked would of worked but only without their shields. So no it wouldn’t of been effective. It’s technology far more advanced than human capabilities. They were only able to figure out how to get through it. A simple computer virus.

They put in the sequel that a multi sided 'drone' attack was sufficient to knock out capital ship shields with almost trivial ease... so I'd expect the City Destroyers to go down if they were hit with a sufficiently large nuke. If the Destroyers were truely invulnerable, they wouldn't have ever bothered launching their fighter ships in defence. The movie calls the small ships 'Attackers' but we only see them used to defend against enemy fighter threats.

@@mrpineapple3942 no it wouldn’t.

Another alien: Captain, that explosion has done our job by destroying the city below. Captain: Then let’s go to destroy the other cities.

I heard it as "May our children forget us"

@@AnonymousViewer sorry my bad u got better hearing than I do thank you

It is "may our children forgive us."

@@masere Thank you.

I bet their shields were designed for more defense against missiles. There is Cosmic radiation in space that is lethal to us.

Or worse yet Halo guys: UNSC navy uses all of theirs!

@@zonnodon163 If humanity in this movie were as advanced as the UNSC, we'd swat them like flies in the first battle.

@@SoldierOfFate I'd love to one of the UNSC's planet killer NOVAs being used, that's probably overkill though. One MAC cannon would do it.

Or the Mark IX Gatebuster warheads used by the SGC.

@@corkystorky Talk all you want, its never going to change the mistake :)

@@corkystorky Sadly your found my comment because 49 people agree with me...who are you again? No one :)

@@corkystorky I saw two replies by you but didn't read them, sorry Me and 49 people dont care what you have to say. If your family and lack of friends leaves you feeling lonely, i suggest you go visit a church and make some new friends to help with your insecurities while you troll videos late at night, Good luck :)

@@MerchantIvoryfilms Did you even understand what he or she said? the plane was going left but on the radar it was going right (Maybe the reason why it is going right on the radar was because the mapping was from ground and not on the sky or space Please don't start a conflict Please forgive me about my grammar

@@MerchantIvoryfilms Please don't start a conflict by teasing or making someone annoyed by saying something like "Who are you again? No one" please have a normal conversation and respect people

Space OdJobs not if you have alien technology, cmon...

That only works on digital systems like the ones we use in earth, Aliens as stated in the movie use technology that differs vastly from our own, hence why the Area 51 scientists were unable to do tests with the Alien Craft they had ; something along these lines "we were unable to run any tests since we could not replicate their power source" ,it could be assumed that their tech is immune or highly resistant to EMP like analog systems used by humans.

And yet David wrote a human computer virus that affected THEIR systems XD Love the movie... but seriously that is so stupid

@@Optimusprime240 While the virus thing ita a stretch to say the least, David could only do so cause the aliens left a way to convert the languaje from their computers and sytems to ours; the "hidden signal " on the satelites that connected their systems to relay the signal for the countdown to Earth's satelites and once David figures that out he started analyzing that "code" , in a deleted scene you can see that the Area 51 scientists couldnt understand the OS of the craft they had and David pointing out their communications worked in the same way, like i said its by no means a perfect explanation but at least they tried there.

If that were the case, they would never had survived interstellar travel at speeds close to or higher than the speed of light as the sparse amount of electrons and protons scattered through interstellar space would be like an intense wall of radiation and even a grain of sand would impact with greater energy than nuclear weapons.

But what if they are vegietarians, and the pizza is sent right back!!!!!!!!!! end of humanity cuz some fucking pepperoni

😳. F**k me! I never thought of that! Uhhh - hey wait! One of the bomb pilots could be a ventriloquist! He could throw his voice when the aliens come out & say “vegetarians rock!” If the aliens say “No they don’t!” Then we give them the pepperoni pizza & BOOM!” If the aliens say “damn right! Vegetarians Rock!” …. The the ventriloquist bomber say” WHAT’S THAT OVER THERE!!!!! When the aliens look away somebody jumps in and picks off all the pepperoni & repaces it with tomatoes! World saved.

That kind of reminds me of the War of the Worlds scene where the aliens opened up the hatch and took Tom Cruise’s grenade belt which then exploded inside

Actually, that was the plan - Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum both thought delivering a pizza but said "let's pretend we are delivering a virus" when in actual fact they uploaded a pizza menu and all the aliens were squabbling over the 2-4-1 deal and who wanted stuffed crust that they lost their shit and both Jeff and Will bounced leaving a nuke behind with a pizza oven.

@@rubix4195 Whoooooaaaa! Dude! The shear genius of that strategy has me awestruck!

if aliens did that it would be terrifying

Crysis during the mission Reckoning kicks this up a notch. The nuke looked like it initially worked...and then it ended as the equivalent of kicking a Hornet's nest.

Or a frozen cityscape with no power and ice everywhere.

@@armandomercado2248 Except the winter storm in Texas was a natural disaster, and Detroit is a Demotard disaster.

@@charlesferdinand422 Well... In a way they're both man made disasters. Your hatred of Detroit and dems prevents you from seeing it.

Maybe give less time to them defend from a missile

Or maybe they dont work without satelites?

@@omnia9348 ALCMs are slow-ass missiles with heat plumes you can see from miles away if you're an alien starship with advanced sensors. The thinking is, if they won't bother to dodge an ALCM with a medium-yield warhead, then they probably won't dodge a few ICBMs with high-yield warheads. So why not just use ICBMs? And no, ICBMs do not require satellite-guidance. They're not JDAMs. They work on internal guidance that is fail-proof come hell or high water. Their warheads have smaller heat and radar signatures than winged ALCMs from a plane. Unlike cruise missiles they come at you at Mach 3, and one Minuteman can be re-fitted to carry multiple warheads, aka MIRVs. Right now they have single warheads per missile because of our arms limitation treaties with Russia. I'd like to see a City Destroyer ship stand-up to five MIRVs and see how their shields hold. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fr2Ki8yft92nkXk.html

This particular force was a scout force that was there for two objectives: assess enemy defenses and raze population centers in preparation for the main invasion force. Also, they didn't know about humanity possessed nuke silos or ballistic submarines as they were never employed against them. In the novel, the aliens were actually shocked when the US chucked a B2 with a nuclear payload at them.

In which novel is that?

@@matheus5230 The novelization of the first movie. In the part with the nuke, its written from the aliens POV. They had no idea that we had nuclear weapons (apparently its a very rare technology for races to create) and were confused when a single Human aircraft launched a single projectile. They were genuinely wondering what the sense was in it before it detonated. It took the shields down to 10%, and the aliens were starting to panic over it. A second nuke would have destroyed it completely.

The armored car’s radio is even stronger.

dzabageo who is Brian Williams

@@bolobalaman google him and the memes. News anchor that lied about a bunch of stories and he got canned.

dzabegeo - That is funny stuff!

Its a confusing missile