Could be a slightly exaggerated opinion, but I think India's home success boils down to this: 'We are not at good at playing spin, but opposition is definitely worse'

Amazing content thank you. As an Indian, I love these pitches - from time to time - because it's fun and every ball is interesting. But every Test can't last two and a half days. There has to be some balance here. You can't make spin bowlers (Lyon excluded) look like world beaters purely because of the pitch - its too much luck and not enough skill. Once a series its fun, but it can't be every match. Tests need to go 4-5 days.

Exactly the content BCCI need. This was in my mind for many months, india performed well mainly due to the bowlers. That's a fact!

India should come and tour Sri Lanka for a test series. Specifically Galle where we have very spin friendly pitches but if you can bat sensibly get great runs. That would be a good test for India to face foreign spin conditions against good spin bowlers

As far as 2020 is concerned, you need to remember India played only four Tests that year. Two of them in New Zealand where the highest run scorer of the series managed only 122 runs from 4 innings(the highest from India only a 100), the third Test had India being bowled out just for 36

Looking at those figures, it's not just that their batting has dropped off so much, it's also that their batting was at an extraordinary high in that 3 year period between 17 and 20 also. I think you should do a comparison to a few more 3 year periods prior to 17-20, just to show how dramatic the drop really is.

The last statement just hit the nail on the head. We are about to run out of batters to drop! This is a perfect analysis!

love the rabbit eating strawberry

One of your best videos yet. Great analysis. Very enlightening.

Superb analysis! Appreciate the detailed views!

One other aspect i wish was covered here is the number of matches/year the top six end up playing. During India's peak M Vijay, Che Pu, Jinx, Vihari, Ashwin, were test specialists. Now look at the indian 11. They are ALL multi-format players except Che Pu. Show me other players that play the same volume of cricket as indian top 6 and yet shine in all formats? With the congested schedules taking away tour matches, shrinking gaps between tests (4 day break between tests???) the players simply dont get a break and cant switch formats. I believe this definitely has played its part.

One thing your analysis didn't show was the average of batsmen from Australia, England, Newzealand and South Africa in India in said period to see whether they have been affected more by the pitches

Brilliant analysis and video. ❤ great job ….

Great video as always. Another theory - Indian batsmen are actually honing skills to play pace and bounce and are selected based on what they do in SENA countries. Example is KL Rahul’s defense from team management.

you forget the fact that Virat has forgotten to play the spin....Its not just test

Forget the established bats....the guy i'd use as an example is Shubman Gill. When i saw him debut in Aust a cpl years ago i saw a magnificent technique and talent. BUT, since then he's gone on to have a 30 average which means he must have seriously dropped off. The clue is he averages 40 AWAY but only 24 at HOME. He's playing half his test cricket on wickets created to stifle touring bats, and it must effect Indian batsmen also. He SHOULD be minimum a 45 avg after 15 odd tests.....his technique is that good. You get better facing spin as your game matures so i wont judge him too fiercely on this series. There's a chance he could even be lost to the game if runs dont come in the 4th test. When he toured on quality test standard batting wickets in Aust, he made good runs. Its a damn shame.

Crazy video, used all of my available neurons to understand everything you’ve put in this video

now i think india needs some decent batting pitches to get batsmen back to form. The pitches they make are either tough to bat or impossible to bat. This means india with spinners pretty much wins home tests because of jadeja, ashwin and akshar. But i guess if batsmen dont get any runs for such long periods and that too at home, might affect them

Great Analytics,..Fantastic presentation..some one from BCCI should refer this..

And sadly nobody in India are talking about this issue.

Great analysis.

I think India plays on tough batting pitches against top class teams that's they have run drought If they plays on Highways 🛣️ very high flat track pitches like Pakistan they may never have run drought against Zimbabwe ,WI ,SA, SL and BAN etc

Extremely great video…!! This reminded me of our own tenis cricket ball team in 2000/2001 - we had 4 great bowlers and hence our batsmen never got any confidence in the practice 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Poor Jadeja gets pushed to #5 in difficult conditions (swing or spin) for left/right combination, in order to disrupt the rhythm of the bowlers. You're more likely to see him bat in the top 6 at 50/3 rather than 200/3. If top 7 were included in these stats instead of top 6, the drop will not be as significant I believe (he has two hundreds batting from 7 last year).

Our bowlers are covering now for our batsman else transition period is right in front of us just like 2012-13 where we didn't have good bowlers and all the senior players got dropped out of the team.

I think, the players who can play spin Better are less in our team. I Don't mean our top 6 players don't know how to play spin. It's just they hardly played any domestic match before they face any gd genuine spin bowler. The best spin india batsman can face are certainly inside India itself. So top players didn't have the quality to play against. U can say match practice but jadeja and Ashwin isn't the one who can provide a variety of attack that India needs to get used to. Pant and shreyas has gd records against spin in India. And that's because they are new and has face domestic bowling recently in last 5 year. The only one who is a little out of loop might be shubham gill but he also hasn't played that many matches. So it's all about top order players has run out of domestic good spin bowling practice.

Great deep dive. It would be interesting to see the Kohli vs top 6 stat applied to the other big guns of world batting: Williamson, Root, Smith, Marnus and Babar, I would imagine all of those would be comfortably ahead of the rest, unlike Kohli.

This article should be shown as a case study to cricket experts and especially commentators..

Need an analysis on how well WI use the new ball abilities of military medium Kyle Mayers!!

Ok, I agree Indian cricket team not doing well at home and they are bringing other teams to their batting level at the bottom.

3:24 Which software you used for this particular GFX and animation

so pushing one or two top order players down the order might help in mitigating the effect of the new ball.

5:24 Greatest video ever.

Pitches have been shit. I've had enough of BCCI's bullying.

You can see it in the current series. Wickets produced to favour the home team, and it does takes time for a touring team to get accustomed to these unusual decks. As the series has progressed the tourists batting is improving (and they probably should have also won the Delhi test, but collapsed in a heap). There's nothing wrong with it as long as Indian fans are ok with 3 day games and seeing less quality batting. Afterall, there are currently half of the worlds top 10 batsmen playing in this series, and that is normally something definitely worth seeing.....but they are not getting to see them doing what they do best. Those type of wickets are killing both teams these days.

Change in pitches is only option left for us

Hi what is the visualization tool used to create these presentations?

The best break ever! :D

Superb content! You should teach maths and statistics!

Interesting take, just one more thing we should discuss, how many times has India batted first in this period of time. If opposition is not scoring enough then surely it impact the overall score of India 🇮🇳

5:21 🤣🤣

Sir love your video

They should start with number 8 and 9 now, then make their way up the order to Rohit and Gill, followed by the two definite tailenders

But they are still winning a lot..I’m good with that..the bowlers are driving the wins..perfect…

5:20 Peak Jarrod Kimber 😂😂😂😂😂

What a fucking video! Looking at cricket stats has never been this good,honestly.

As few others have commented rishabh pant is missing in this comparison. If not for the accident he would have been in the current team instead of some other player.

Aging batters whose reflexes are slowing down. They pick the ball up late now which would be fine if they had a technique to compensate for it. With a very deficient technique, especially front foot play jack shit is gonna happen. Kohli is a good example. He is picking the ball so late now.

nice expose work

Pant was not even mentioned !!

this is the exact kind of data i've been looking for in 3 past years, looking at how pathetic my batting line up is performing. Thank you Jarrod, for enlightening us with this superb data!

India was unbeatable through the 90's, playing on turning pitches with 3 spinners & a pacer but Indian batsmen always got big runs because they knew how to play spin. Most of the current Indian batsmen don't play any domestic cricket, and therefore, they lose their skill to play on turning pitches. We used to see the likes of Sidhu, Tendulkar, Azhar, Ganguly, Laxman, Sehwag, Dravid, etc. use their feet regularly to the greatest of spinners, like Warne, Maralitharan, Vettori, etc. and smash them all over the ground on turning pitches with batting average of above 40-50 in India but the current crop of Indian batsmen are just incapable of doing that. The selectors should give more chances to people like Sarfraz Khan, Prithvi Shaw & others who are doing well against spin domestically, and we will see very different results in Home Tests. Maybe India should have horses for courses, and have different set of batsmen for Tests within India, and Tests outside of India. Why not? We don't play exact same bowling combination for Home & Away Tests, so there is no reason not to have different batting combinations for Home & Away Tests. Players like Prithvi Shaw, Mayank Agarwal, Pant, etc. who are really good at home on turning pitches, should play in Home Tests, and the likes of Ajinkya Rahane, Pujara, etc. should play in SENA countries.

This kind of drop off is insane

The pitches are truly awful, no where should Joe Root be taking figures of 5-8, but when you have Ashwin, Jadeja, Axar in your line up with Bumrah/Shami/Kumar/Siraj as your quicks you know there’s not a bowling attack in the world that can compete so it makes sense for winning cricket to prepare these wickets

Why is Pant not in the comparison? He has been elite!

Due to the flat pitch in the past Tendulkar made loads of runs and some people are still comparing him with Virat Kohli 😂

Great video. Btw, from 2020 India don't have a top-6, we only have Rohit and Pant

We run cricket . We'll do whatever we want . GFY !

Why do you have shubham in thumbnail!!!!

Apart from pant rohit and jaddu all struggled in these pitches.

Kohli Gill Rahaane were never the best players against spin on wrag turnur pitches against good spin bowlers they dominate pace bowlers and Rohit Pujara and pant were better players of spin on any kind of tracks which balanced things for India but now Its all in turmoil

It's the "superstar" impact - Indian batsman get treated like god's, so they don't need to play domestic cricket. Hence, they've forgotten how to play spin. As for pace, they never were good at that.

They’ve grown complacent lately. The World Cup performance was more than clear evidence of this.

Indian batting lineup in test needs a bazball sort of attitude

You are overthinking this, barring Rishab and Rohit our top 6 have simply been poor and the pitches have little to do with it, kohli has scored tons of runs on rank turners, he comes from delhi the pitches here have always favoured spinners and he has scored many runs on these kind of tracks early in his career, he used to be great against spin playing late and using the crease but over the years he has forgotten those skills , changed his game to play against swing overseas and coming forward more often.

The Indians were hoist by their own petard ! Playing on spinning tracks was bound to rebound at some stage especially given India's fragile batting line up. It was obvious to most watchers except the Indian think tank ! They escaped by the skin of their teeth in Delhi thanks to the Aussies losing their heads for 90 minutes on the third day after being in front through the early part of the game. It could so easily have been two one in favour of Australia but India did not learn its lessons .Each pitch played progressively worse than the previous one with Indore being the worst .The sensible thing to do was to play on sporting pitches that lasted 5 days as India has the bowling line up to take advantage of such conditions. But they were so obsessed with getting to the WTC final that they lost sight of the BGT. Now the momentum is with Australia and India will have to do all the running to get to the WTC final !

I'd say the name of the game in pitch curation should be balance. If your pitch favors any one category more than everything else, then it's not a good pitch. Be it batting, pace bowling, or spin bowling. I can see that it's easier said than done but at least this should be the goal of pitch curation even if you fall short. But when it's clear that your goal was to favor any one thing more than everything else, then there's really no excuse.

Why did you leave our Pant ? Because it’s convenient!?

Strange. Jadeja avging more than pujara

don't worry, Virat Kohli and Rishabh Pant will score crucial runs in pressure situations for India.

Very good analysis but I don’t think tweaking of pitches is the sole cause for the drop. One of major reason could be due to Virat‘s form the whole team relied on him so heavily when he is not scoring centuries the entire lineup is falling apart. Another reason could be the scheduling changes after the WTC and Covid. India hardly plays at home and due to the busy schedule none of Indian test players play lot of FC at home. I feel the pitches are the same as before but skill of the players against good spin has reduced drastically in the recent times. The ICC should make the rating of pitches more transparent it should not be based on the result of the match instead pitches should be rated comparing the behavior of the pitches in test matches to the first class matches.

Except Pant, all the Indian batsmen are in poor form. They are now not able to score runs even against mediocre spinners even in India. IPL has destroyed their batting😡😡😡😡

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You might notice that they average much better in ODIs though. Indian players take a while to transition between formats, so while a player has been playing well in ODIs, he takes a test or two to play well in the test series immediately following the ODIs. Since India has been playing more ODI and T20 matches, they haven't got the chance to condition themselves to play tests anymore. It's also a transition time for India now that they're batting lineup is ageing. SL struggled similarly, once they lost Sanga and Mahela in quick succession, but they've recovered in a couple of years. We'll see another couple of years before India get back up on their feet.

I'd eat that rabbit! Kek!

From the graph it's clear kl Rahul is as consistent in 2020-23 as he was in 2017-20😅

Sooo Rahaane was right😅

ya pujara scored 1 century and kohli scored 0 century in last 3 years

The thing to remember as well is there is no excuse for pretending the wickets are that way naturally....for a long time curators could control the amount of sunlight, the amount of water, or even dig out the entire square and import the perfect soil and grass...can even have drop in pitches in big city stadiums. There's no shortage of money in the game to do whatever they want. So they definitely CHOOSE to prepare these types of decks such as at Indore....hence the BCCI must want this. I dont think its good for the game in India. They are missing out. The difference is that in Australia when champion batsmen visit (eg Lara Tendulkar) the locals want to see them play...its a treat that they are touring. in India however, they seem desperate to somehow stifle them and reduce any chance they have of performing. The crowd misses out....and the WORLD misses out. Each nation is allowed to do as they please though. These days even their own top class bats seem to struggle on them also. I'm thinking its far more likely the influence of white ball cricket in destroying sound techniques.

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