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India's Plate Politics: सब्जी या मीट? Sanjay Rajoura | DocVatsa

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Welcome to our latest video - "India's Plate Politics: सब्जी या मीट?" Sanjay Rajoura @SanjayRajouraurbantucchha and Dr Aviral Vatsa @docvatsa3704 delve into the complex dynamics of this debate, exploring how food choices become a subject of social scrutiny, religious tensions, and even political manoeuvring.
This video takes you through the intricate maze of India's dietary preferences, exploring the social, cultural, and political aspects that shape the country's veg vs non-veg debate.
With its rich tapestry of cultures, traditions, and religions, India has a diverse range of dietary practices. From the strictly vegetarian diets advocated by certain religious and cultural groups to the meat-rich diets favoured by others, India's food landscape is as varied as its people's. But what are these dietary preferences' social and political implications beyond individual choices?
We will look at the historical and contemporary contexts, the role of caste and religion, and the impact of changing societal norms and growing urbanisation.
This video isn't about taking sides or promoting one diet over another. Instead, it aims to shed light on how food choices reflect deeper socio-political narratives and how understanding these can contribute to a more inclusive and tolerant society.
Join us as we navigate through this nuanced discussion. Like, comment, share your thoughts, and don't forget to subscribe for more insightful content. Let's get the conversation started!
#VegVsNonVeg #India #FoodPolitics #IndianDiet #SocialNorms #PoliticalImplications #CulturalInsights #UnderstandingIndia

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@trendygiftsemporium
@trendygiftsemporium Жыл бұрын
waiting for next episode eagerly, biggest troller I will be 😈👿
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Haha we can see that :) Next episode coming on Friday
@trendygiftsemporium
@trendygiftsemporium Жыл бұрын
aur kya, sanjay ko celebrity banane ka bahut shaunk hain na , thoda famous kar deti hun huh
@trendygiftsemporium
@trendygiftsemporium Жыл бұрын
Abhi to shuru bhi nahi kiya, iske khareedaron ko mere papa yaad aane lag gaye ch ch ch, kaise banega celebrity.
@trendygiftsemporium
@trendygiftsemporium Жыл бұрын
+ - bond or neutral
@amitojha9649
@amitojha9649 Жыл бұрын
It's like upper caste brahmins justifying caste system and getting surprised if some dalit is complaining about it.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Agree
@Msnovy
@Msnovy Жыл бұрын
But the irony is upper class brahmins propagates vegetarianism in India. Dalits will eat whatever nutritious food they can get, if they can.
@piipiipuupuu1761
@piipiipuupuu1761 Жыл бұрын
​@@Msnovyfortunately the avg dalit's diet consists of maggot laden sewage soup and rotten dog/pig/cow carcass.
@ganeshdhumal4391
@ganeshdhumal4391 Жыл бұрын
Khashaba Jadhav, The first Individual Olympic medalist was from Maharashtra. He won Bronze medal in wrestling in Helsinki 1952.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Was he vegetarian?
@sudoanonymous96
@sudoanonymous96 Жыл бұрын
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel he was from Satara and not Brahmin. I have friends from Satara who have withdrawl symptoms if they dont eat mutton.
@akshaaysingh
@akshaaysingh Жыл бұрын
Many people in India choose to be vegetarian because they don't want to harm animals. But at the same time, they might poison a rat in their home. This is a very harsh way to deal with pests, and it shows how these issues of violence and harm towards animals are complicated and ongoing.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Very well said
@trendygiftsemporium
@trendygiftsemporium Жыл бұрын
Pahla episode hain jismein sanjay ko haste hue dekha hain, pakka foodie 😂😂😂😂
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed 😀
@trendygiftsemporium
@trendygiftsemporium Жыл бұрын
Dubara Kab dekhenge
@tapasvibhardwaj
@tapasvibhardwaj Жыл бұрын
I am a brahmin from haryana..and i love chicken, mutton
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@samk6051
@samk6051 Жыл бұрын
Sanjay is my long lost brother 😂 In terms of thought process we are exactly the same...😊
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Mêle mein bichhade the shayad 🙂
@samk6051
@samk6051 Жыл бұрын
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel Duniya ka mela 😄
@TheAmitkumar2010
@TheAmitkumar2010 Жыл бұрын
Neeraj chopra in a recent podcast himself said he had to shift to meat based diet when his training got tougher to maintain that fitness level. Haryana wale kuch zada hi dudh ghee ki kahani sunate hai. Udhar daaru to dabakar pite hain.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Jo daaru Pete Hain woh elite athlete Nahin bNte. Neeraj is a super star 🙂
@prabhatgupta7
@prabhatgupta7 Жыл бұрын
The beef exports of India comprises solely of Buffalo. COW, it's CALF and COW BULL are not slaughtered or exported. So India being the largest exporter of beef is no hypocrisy. Its only the unawareness of these so called intellectuals.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
@saurabhrawat1264
@saurabhrawat1264 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Sanjay and Daactar saab. The debate is neither about taste nor morality. The crucial aspect is choice, but the key factor is that the choice should be conscious. We have the ability to make conscious choices. We don't simply engage in every action we can do just because we have the capability. You don't go and slap anybody because you have hands and can easily do so. Similarly, you can engage in any nuisance or molest someone, but what prevents the majority of humans from committing such acts is not moral choice but conscious choice. विवेक >>> नैतिकता
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Very well said Saurabh.
@trendygiftsemporium
@trendygiftsemporium Жыл бұрын
Very interesting 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Tsk12
@Tsk12 Жыл бұрын
TIL that Haryana is on a different level!! Great podcast.. Please keep going!!
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@docvatsa
@docvatsa Жыл бұрын
Haha.. Haryana is a different level :) . Thanks.
@Red_Dusk
@Red_Dusk Жыл бұрын
bina 300 gram mutton aur kaleji khae bina nind ni ati sirji
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
😀
@badrulduja1131
@badrulduja1131 Жыл бұрын
Best Love u guys from Kashmir
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thank you Badrul
@globalcitizen0
@globalcitizen0 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know non-vegetarians were such patta premis... All of these arguments can be countered quite easily.. Sanjay Rajoura toh bahut science ke follower bante hai.. Zara Richard Dawkins padhlo dost.. Casteism bhi emotional need hi hai Bhai.. banjao Brahmanwadi♥️♥️
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Please share a few key points as counter argument, we will included then part 2 of this debate
@nishantdhama650
@nishantdhama650 Жыл бұрын
17:20 no matter how sustainable you make meat industry, it will still be highly damaging for environment. First time I am witnessing that sanjay rajoura has poor knowledge on this subject just like rest of the guys on the podcast. Vegans have arguements that are irrefutable. I have been sanjay's fan. He is man of reason. But poor knowledge on the subject.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback
@nishantdhama650
@nishantdhama650 Жыл бұрын
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel u deleted the link i shared.
@ankitjain3760
@ankitjain3760 Жыл бұрын
Yes overall Non Veg is not environmental friendly.
@thevijaykumar
@thevijaykumar Жыл бұрын
This was an interesting conversation
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thank you Vijay ji, hope you are well
@user-sp2lj8et2n
@user-sp2lj8et2n Жыл бұрын
Sanjay Bhai, Bharat ek mauj ke baad, aapko bahut तलाश kiya, thank god ab wapas mil Gaye.. 😂😂 पेलते रहो दुनिया को🥂
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Sanjay Ek Mauj :). hopefully through this channel we will keep him a regular feature for all of us to cherish.
@iabhisekdas
@iabhisekdas Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the next episode.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@omrajomraj6778
@omrajomraj6778 2 ай бұрын
हिंदुस्तान मे छुपे हुये वेजिटेरीन ज्यादा हैं कुछ खास कम्युनिटी के लोग ऐसे है जो कहते है यार हमारे घर मे चिकन या मटन नहीं बनता है मेरा एक दोस्त है जो जाती से वाल्मीकि या जाटव है मै उसके घर बनवाकर खा लेता हूँ कुवह ऐसे भी वेजिटेरीन है जो कहते है जो कहते है हिन्दुओ मे मै मंगलवार और सोमवार कप नहीं खाता हूँ सिक्खों मे वीरवार को नहीं खाता हूँ बाकी दिन मै खा लेता हूँ कुछ ऐसे भी लोग है यार मुझे चिकन विरयानी और मटन विरयानी बहुत पसंद है मेरे घर मे टी बनती नहीं मेरा एक दोस्त अब्दुल है मै उसके घर जाकर खा लेता हूँ बाकी दिन तो मै साग सब्जी खाता ही तीर्थ ब्रत करता हूँ गंगा नहाता हूँ पक्का सनातनी हूँ
@haryanvi-geet
@haryanvi-geet Жыл бұрын
Nice conversation🤙
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@TheTrueRationalist
@TheTrueRationalist Жыл бұрын
Aur veg khane ka aur ethical hone ka koi connection nhi... Hitler bhi vegetarian tha aur gandhi bhi the aur dangabaj RSS vale bhi vegetarian hote hai😅 Aur vegetarian logo ko insano ke marne se amuman problem nahi hota janwaro ke marne se hota hai😢
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Well said 😀
@AtulKumar-ze5zp
@AtulKumar-ze5zp 11 ай бұрын
In india most dalits are non vegetarian but they eat only twice or three times in year due to high price of non veg...!
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel 11 ай бұрын
eating habits shud not be caste based, but an individual's choice
@amritraj6501
@amritraj6501 Жыл бұрын
Prayash Bhai 😂 Doctor & Sanjay bhaiya ❤
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@MunikaSheoran
@MunikaSheoran 10 ай бұрын
My father was wrestler he quit wrestling because he couldn't afford meat and without it There is no strength as per Him at that time Army didn't support wrestlers enough also My mother used to create a ruckus whenever he used to bring Meat at home so because of My mother we became vegetarian when i grew up i started eating and my father also started eating Meat is tasty and it digests better
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience.
@foodreligion78
@foodreligion78 7 ай бұрын
Mrs Infosys claims that she carry her own cooking vessels when she traveled abroad.because she is vegetarian.
@Msnovy
@Msnovy Жыл бұрын
Wrestlers take supplements even in Haryana to build muscle mass. It can’t happen without high protein intake. That protein powder is not vegetarian. 😂
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
How do you know the supplements they eat is not vegetarian?
@Msnovy
@Msnovy Жыл бұрын
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel a lot of food supplements restrictive eating athletes take are protein products isolated from some animal products. Like fish and egg. And the part I’m from vegetarians won’t have those. They even consider onion, garlic and few daal not satwik vegetarian diet. So to imagine which supplement is strictly plant based is going to be either hard to find or very expensive.
@RahulPandey-dm3gx
@RahulPandey-dm3gx Жыл бұрын
But still you have options..you can’t say that all supplements are non vegetarian..you are poor then it’s not my problem 😂
@Msnovy
@Msnovy Жыл бұрын
@@RahulPandey-dm3gx very true😂 I’m just biased towards non veg.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Well said @rahul
@rishabhsrikar9514
@rishabhsrikar9514 11 ай бұрын
As an Conservation Biologist, the biggest driver of biodiversity loss aka killing of animals is agriculture.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel 11 ай бұрын
there you go. this is why a complete picture is important.
@Aapka_Manoj
@Aapka_Manoj Жыл бұрын
👌👌👌😍
@amiteshkumar4720
@amiteshkumar4720 Жыл бұрын
Eating animal is not choice. It's unethical.And, before agriculture we hunted so we should continue eating meat by the same logic society was unjust earlier and we developed by that injustice( black slaves ) so we should not try to make justice in society?
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Eating is a choice to a huge extent. Condescending morality is wrong IMHO. There are pros and cons on either side. No?
@AmitParopkari
@AmitParopkari 11 ай бұрын
Meat is essentials for good health, I can't be more thankful for meat, my health good now because I started eating meat.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your perspective
@sunny4nicegals
@sunny4nicegals 2 ай бұрын
Homo sapiens has digestive system which can digest flesh.Nervous system of plants is not so well developed as in case of animals and homo sapiens.Red meat is second largest cause of global warming.I agree with Haryanvi person.Meat eating is not only about only taste buds it is cruelty to animals and consciousness of self.I agree with Sanjay Rajoura on most of things but not on this matter.
@ad84_71
@ad84_71 Жыл бұрын
If it will come to survival all vegetarians will convert ? It is all about being part of food chain. Say what you want if nature made you a certain way you have follow. So the truth is humans have evolved eating meat and thats it.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
We sit at the top of the food chain for a reason. The least we can do is respect each other's food choices.
@yashagar4443
@yashagar4443 Жыл бұрын
Incredible
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@vikaskumar70
@vikaskumar70 Жыл бұрын
Yeh bhi theek hai
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
sahi pakde hain :)
@tumterlollen9953
@tumterlollen9953 10 ай бұрын
Another argument is about milk. Cow or buffalo they don't give us milk but rare them and take out milk. When milking is done it's painful for the animals but still we do it for our consumption.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your perspective.
@akshaaysingh
@akshaaysingh Жыл бұрын
When you look at it closely, one chicken or one cow can feed many people. But if you think about the amount of vegetables a person eats, all those vegetables are grown on farms. These farms often use pesticides that can kill lots of small creatures like insects. So, in a way, someone eating non-vegetarian might actually cause fewer creatures to die than someone eating vegetarian. This also suggests that vegetarians indirectly cause harm, even if they don't mean to.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
So so true
@mansibisht8589
@mansibisht8589 Жыл бұрын
traditionally pesticides were not used...
@akshaaysingh
@akshaaysingh Жыл бұрын
@@mansibisht8589 great point, but whats the definition of traditional, what I mean is how long back in history we need to go to define that this is traditional, every one know in early part of human history we were hunting community like rest of the world, and then farming was invented so my point is it's hard to define traditionally. Now second part of your question - pesticides were not used during farming - that some what true but we used natural pesticide which indeed was responsible for killing micro organism in millions.
@sxceptional
@sxceptional Жыл бұрын
This is why before sharing your opinion you should research well on that topic Now coming to the point , there is no way you can compare the amount of pesticides being used in any crop in how much area/Quantity, nor you discussed about the plants/feed stock that is grown to feed aur cattles and the amount of water that is needed in both growing crops and for cattles so you can not just determine which is better or worse and about the part that vegetarianism causes harm that is due to the capitalism and Market that forces farmers to grow crops more than required that holds same for the meat exports too so we by looking this topic through the lens of economics can never determine which is better instead we should talk about what is right
@devd851
@devd851 Жыл бұрын
Ab baat rahi Chicken ki Haryana ki. So I'll tell you my Uncle (Mr. Sher Singh Joon) he cook very best Dry chicken and he was the State champion at his time in Wrestling. Now he is Principal at Delhi Government School.😂 Ye Haryana wali baat bilkul galat hai haryana main bahut gareebi hain sir jo part Delhi se door hai wahan hum loog jate nahin aur jahan gareebi hogi wahan 🍖 Aache se khaya jata hai.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Your uncle is rightly placed to make a huge difference in this regard by educating children and their parents.
@tapasvibhardwaj
@tapasvibhardwaj Жыл бұрын
Haryana ko bahut sahi troll kiya h❤❤❤on the topic of intercaste marriage and non veg food...love u sanjay
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tapas
@tapasvibhardwaj
@tapasvibhardwaj Жыл бұрын
Tapasvi Bhardwaj
@newmanavjagartiandolan1882
@newmanavjagartiandolan1882 11 ай бұрын
भाई बिगन का तो पता नहीं क्या होता है, मगर हमारे हरियाणा में तो इन पहलवानों ने हनुमान से भी ज़्यादा हिघन करते हैं। अच्छी कुश्ती लड़ने का कारण मीट न खाना नहीं है, बल्कि हार्डवर्क होता है जो खेतों में करते हैं। ऐसे ही हरियाणा में बनिया भी हैं उनसे पहलवान नहीं होते क्यूँ क्योंकि वे मेहनत नहीं करते।
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel 11 ай бұрын
hardwork wali baat to sahi hai, jati wali baat se sehmat nahin hain hum apki. Kisi ek jati ki dharohar nahin hain hardwork.
@samk6051
@samk6051 Жыл бұрын
Haryanvis being haryanvis wherever they go...😂😅
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
We need to challenge our roots, constantly while enjoying the fruits too. That's true evolution.
@samk6051
@samk6051 Жыл бұрын
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel agreed 👍
@SciRaider
@SciRaider Жыл бұрын
dude wait till the acharya prashant vegan crowd see this🤣🤣🤣. Maja ayega
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Bring it on bandhu.
@wasifkalim9241
@wasifkalim9241 Жыл бұрын
37:00 Expected better from Doc Vatsa being a MBBS Doctor, he should have known that in case of Halal when the blood vains are cut from neck sensation of body stops but heart continues to pump so maximum of the blood is pumped out of the body which keeps the meat fresh for longer period of time as compared to Jhatka and so Halal meats are less prone to pathogenic attacks. In case of Jhatka heart stops pumping at the point of Jhatka @doc vatsa
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Please can you enlighten us on how heart stop immediately in jhatka? Is it just a popular (blind) belief or is there any scientific evidence to this?
@RahulPandey-dm3gx
@RahulPandey-dm3gx Жыл бұрын
I am a mbbs doctor..honestly no where it is written about halal and Jhatka meat😂..that halal is better or jhatka is better.. This is just a pseudoscience fact..people use half science to justify their stupidity.. No one is stopping you from eating halal..but don’t impose halal on everyone..
@RahulPandey-dm3gx
@RahulPandey-dm3gx Жыл бұрын
If you have sone authentic source of your claim..please enlighten me..please don’t send some stupid Zakir naik or some random mullah video.. I am waiting
@devd851
@devd851 Жыл бұрын
Not at all bhai 😂😂😂😂 Ye Backhodi Science k saath nahi chalegi. I am a Teacher abhi 10th main Life process chapter hai Science ki book main usmain sab diya hua hai.
@wasifkalim9241
@wasifkalim9241 Жыл бұрын
@@devd851 Before commenting should have been better if you had read the above attached pdf
@NanroidNanroid
@NanroidNanroid Жыл бұрын
Kudo to your team to see you talk on this topic. Seeing you guys give me hope for future generations. You may get a lot of angry responses from all sides but keep moving and never compromise. It's important to speak even if you are not the Expert on the topic all these people who are chastising your work are victims of conformity where they are trained to think within the box.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words. We agree with what you said and we will keep on talking on such topics. Thanks again
@manishdagar9881
@manishdagar9881 Жыл бұрын
Itni pyaar ki baate kr raha h ye Haryana wala. Jab inter caste marriage karne walo ki honour killing or boycott karte ho, tab kahan jaati hai tumhari morality??
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
insaano ki life ke parvah kum hai shayad, murgion ki jayeda.
@aadityayadav-pv1nt
@aadityayadav-pv1nt 12 күн бұрын
Bhaisab maine bio phadhi hai plant fal execess food ke ke liye banata hai or phal mei jaan nahi hoti na hai voh jeena chahta hai balki agar koi phal nahi khayega to ped phodho ke bacche nahi hoge.
@ad84_71
@ad84_71 Жыл бұрын
Just because plants can't scream you vegetarians find it ethical to eat them. Wth😅
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
And plants make our earth habitable for all, still we eat them.
@vinaykumrawat8339
@vinaykumrawat8339 Жыл бұрын
And yes milk is also animal product and the next stage of vegetarian is vegan
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
next step in regression you mean? animal products are everywhere around, even in things you dont eat... where do u stop?
@devwratdubey5182
@devwratdubey5182 8 ай бұрын
2 so called liberals mil kar ek admi ko defame kar rahe hai bina uska point sune. Agar dum hai to acharya Prashant jese kisi vyakti k sath is par debate kar k dekh lo. Aukat pata pad jayegi.. 😂
@StudyGuru57
@StudyGuru57 10 ай бұрын
Jeeb ke swad ke lilye,,kisi ka gla retena.. havaniyat ki heights h Pollutary farms me murge Maut se Badtar zindagi jite h…insane ke 2 min. Ke swad ke liye kisi jeev ko itna Tarpana …insaniyat nhi
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
@ashmait
@ashmait 10 ай бұрын
14:54 oonth ka adhaar card tha? usne usko apne bank acct se link kia tha?
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
@triptisingh5516
@triptisingh5516 Жыл бұрын
This conversation about vegetarian or non vegetarian food is quite childish: I was expecting a better argument at least from Sanjay. Aur ye kehna "jeev ko nahi marna to ped paudho ko bhi mt khao" isse bada kutark nahi suna maine.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback, we have a lot more episodes lined up, please stay tuned.
@docvatsa
@docvatsa Жыл бұрын
Jeev hatya to plants se bhi hai aur woh humein oxygen bhi dete hain. Hows is that wrong?
@triptisingh5516
@triptisingh5516 Жыл бұрын
@@docvatsa okk, par is logic se to jo nonveg kha raha h wo plants aur animal dono ko marne ka jimmedar h, because aap ek bakra khao uske liye use phle 2,3 kg plants khilaya jaega. To agar aap itne plants premi ho tab to aapko aur bhi nonveg nhi khana chahiye?
@docvatsa
@docvatsa Жыл бұрын
@@triptisingh5516 Logic sirf itna hai ke jisey jo khana ho woh kha sakta hai. Veg ya non veg mein theek galat nahin hai... we all should not judge or stop anhone.
@triptisingh5516
@triptisingh5516 Жыл бұрын
@@docvatsa I agree, main kisi ko rokne nhi jaungi, jisko jo khana h khaye, but i think as a human being hamari kuch responsibility h, wese bhi hmne bhut gandh macha kr rakkhi h aur life me cruelty jitna kam ho utna accha.👍
@user-is7zp8wg6v
@user-is7zp8wg6v Жыл бұрын
Nice talk bro i will suggest to per scientific when slaughter is done by halal method almost all blood and toxin is coming out from the artery and no blood clotting occured. Happen inside and which is help to preserve the meat longer .
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I guess thats a belief not a scientific fact.
@StudyGuru57
@StudyGuru57 10 ай бұрын
Climate change ka bhut bda reason animal farming h …
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
@suhaniraina4669
@suhaniraina4669 6 күн бұрын
I could live with just disagreeing with you guys on this one you but I think you guys have reached your limits and framed yourself in the boundaries of your own will being the god, in which case a god exists and it's you (a human) who as he can will cause extreme violence on a mass scale, and not when he needs to survive but when he chooses to please himself, which is the very definition of patriarchy , which is also the base of casteism. You guys must educate yourself more, instead of just gyan peloing with like minded people, you can start a discussion on this one with kunal kamra , he turned vegetarian fairly recently.
@madmaxronnie
@madmaxronnie Жыл бұрын
The only solace vegetarians can take is that their food doesn't make a sound when it's killed.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
You mean humans cannot hear that 'sound' ?
@omrajomraj6778
@omrajomraj6778 2 ай бұрын
यार ये सक्स बिलकुल गलत बोल रहा है हरयाणा के जितने पहलवान है मीट नहीं खाते बजरंगवली के भक्त है ये बात बिलकुल गलत है मै रेलवे मे T T हूँ मेरे साथ सोनीपत पानीपत के बहुत सारे पहलवाल है जिनको मै जनता हूँ जो रेलवे मे T T है भिवानी साइड के बॉक्सर है सारे के सारे चिकन मटन खाते है एक या दो इसका अपवाद हो सकता है
@devd851
@devd851 Жыл бұрын
And Sanjay sir you forgot about these new BABA'S who tell people's to not eat meat. And mostly these People get in their Traps
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Babas regress our lives, massively.
@bhavesh3729
@bhavesh3729 11 ай бұрын
Acharya prashant ।चेतना।
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel 10 ай бұрын
Thanks
@vinaykumrawat8339
@vinaykumrawat8339 Жыл бұрын
I don't to be a vegan it's okay it's not compilation but depends upon u to choose but at least u can be vegetarian
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
u can be whatever u want to be, just dont be condescending about it.
@vinodvinod2596
@vinodvinod2596 Жыл бұрын
🔥
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Naruto-oj8qs
@Naruto-oj8qs 2 ай бұрын
Vegetarian and Vegan ka POV sahi tarike se put nahi hua Kaafi one dimensional talk thi I would say dosto ki bakchodi thi😅😅😅😅😅 But maza aaya sun ke
@tumterlollen9953
@tumterlollen9953 10 ай бұрын
Sorry to say but the during Vedic period the Aryans ate eat. Even today 70 percent Indians still eat meat.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.
@amrindersinghkalra3078
@amrindersinghkalra3078 4 ай бұрын
According to sikhism anything human eat there is living being present in every thing its idiotic to discuss on meat or non meat ❤
@devd851
@devd851 Жыл бұрын
10:52😂😂😂😂 bhai give this man some Sex Education. He didn't diffrenciate between love and Sex
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
What's the difference? Just asking.
@aviralpandey3214
@aviralpandey3214 Жыл бұрын
Sanjay Rajoura here is crying about generalisation while in the other video he was trying to brush-off the same guy when he tried countering him on generalisation of things.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
thanks
@AdityaSharma-ff7st
@AdityaSharma-ff7st 9 ай бұрын
Very poor pro vegetarian arguments.
@upsc-phobia
@upsc-phobia Жыл бұрын
Hariyana mt ana doctor sahab😂
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
😀😀
@hgh963
@hgh963 Жыл бұрын
Zabardasti, haryana wale, Haryana me ek caste khatik, unka profession he butcher ka raha hai. Haryana me sab zamindar nhi hote. Rahe baat wrestling ki , jab invaders aaye tab kit budgi thi thari wrestling.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Theek sai bhai tu so jaa eeb
@vinaykumrawat8339
@vinaykumrawat8339 Жыл бұрын
U can eat whatever u want it's your choice but don't promote it...
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
sure
@zuesr3277
@zuesr3277 Жыл бұрын
Ye vahi dr aviral vatsa hai kya Scotland Wale 🔥🔥
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
??. Tareef ki haï ya .... 🙂
@vinaykumrawat8339
@vinaykumrawat8339 Жыл бұрын
Sir i can't believe this in other video u were talking about the science now u are saying plant feel pain really!??
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
so, i hope u agree that plants are living beings too. so when exactly do they die after getting plucked? and why do we eat them 'alive'?
@vinaykumrawat8339
@vinaykumrawat8339 Жыл бұрын
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel sir they don't have brain and any other system who communicates pain to their brain if they have
@vinaykumrawat8339
@vinaykumrawat8339 Жыл бұрын
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel no I don't .. And for scientific matter many of the animals do understand human language or behavior or action but not plants....
@vinaykumrawat8339
@vinaykumrawat8339 Жыл бұрын
If you don't eat vegetables thhey will die automatically because they can survive for less time.. And in case of fruit plant they want u to eat their fruit so u can throw seeds and they will grow at different place
@vinaykumrawat8339
@vinaykumrawat8339 Жыл бұрын
The things u are saying about nonveg are seems okay for 1000 years old case because we were not so populated now we are at peak and we killing animals in mass which leads to lots of water waste and land waste because at the end of the animals eat grass if they eat in many kgs then after they give u some little kg of meet
@vinaykumrawat8339
@vinaykumrawat8339 Жыл бұрын
U can read there are lots of study that animals have emotions they can learn many things and they have love for their near ones and thay wants to exist like humans that's why thay have sex
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
thats a selfish take on neglecting plants.
@bhavesh3729
@bhavesh3729 11 ай бұрын
Vese world me kitne log vegetarian hay Or nov vegetarian hay
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel 10 ай бұрын
Aap batao
@prashantagarwal657
@prashantagarwal657 Жыл бұрын
Obviously choice matters the most. Next time dont tell a molester to treat a women right because thats his choice .it is his choice to molest a women right
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
thanks for taking to leave a comment.
@TheTrueRationalist
@TheTrueRationalist Жыл бұрын
Are bhai ye keh raha hai Maharashtra me pehelwan nahi hote... Are bhai kolhapur ko kushti ka ek important sthal kaha jata hai... Aur ha hariyane me kushti jab marathi log panipat gaye ladhai ladhne us waqt hariyana me kushti pohchi aur ha kolhapur ke pehlwan non veg khate hai... Sanjay bhai ne sach kaha inko lagta hai apna state hi bharat hai😅 @sanjayrajoura
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Point noted 🙏
@vinaykumrawat8339
@vinaykumrawat8339 Жыл бұрын
If u have any curage i can debate with u.... But doctor shab u should sell your degree
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
haha... we are not those who think of degrees in buying and selling terms. goodluck.
@aprajitachaudhari5247
@aprajitachaudhari5247 Ай бұрын
Gajab hai bhai insan kaat dete hai pyar karne ki vajah se or janwaro ko kah rahe hai usne pyar kia usko mar k pariwar anath ho gya
@StudyGuru57
@StudyGuru57 10 ай бұрын
Virat Kohli, John ibhrahim vegan h ,,,,,,kisi angel se kamjor legate h qua vegan banana h achha kam ,chote logo ke baski bat nhi,,
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your perspective.
@user-is7zp8wg6v
@user-is7zp8wg6v Жыл бұрын
Yes in bihar mushar goes after rain to field.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
??
@vinaykumrawat8339
@vinaykumrawat8339 Жыл бұрын
And sanjay sir u are being hypocrite here.. U talk about cast..religion .. And science but u are lacking here
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
??
@vinaykumrawat8339
@vinaykumrawat8339 Жыл бұрын
U himself seeing things at human lavel but why discrimination for animals to just have taste I hope u understand
@vinaykumrawat8339
@vinaykumrawat8339 Жыл бұрын
If u talk about humanity by addressing violence then u no longer then a person who say I will save u all by Destroying his own house
@spopli12
@spopli12 Жыл бұрын
Orr aisa khn h ki haryana me meat aasaani se ni milta.....aisa konse city me h haryana kii....hum to khud haryana me rhte hain.....orrr aisa to khin b ni hain....
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Haryana ki badnami ki Gayi haï shayad :)
@manishdagar9881
@manishdagar9881 Жыл бұрын
Haryana wale se intellectual debate kr rhe ho. Yehi bhot hasi ki baat hai😂😂😂
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
thats not fair, it is often intellectually stimulating... baaki everyone has subjective views.
@suprio_gonefishing
@suprio_gonefishing Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣our great great great ancestors were wrestlers and then came brij bhushan
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
No one is forever.
@TheAmitkumar2010
@TheAmitkumar2010 Жыл бұрын
Northeast se to bohot athlete nikalte hain. Iss haryana wale ko northeast ki diet khilao zara. Behos ho jayega apna ye kagaj ka pehelwan😂
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Sahi pakde Hain 🙂
@vivekdhariwal6110
@vivekdhariwal6110 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely did not expect this from Sanjay. A conversation titled Taste or Ethics actively trying to avoid discussion ethics. Especially on the topic of meat eating. Sanjay and the surgeon both are not only completely inept and unqualified to have this conversation. Given Sanjay's general aptitude, it is surprising to see such utter lack of general knowledge on the subject. Disappointing. This entire panel was extremely bad. Lost interest and respect for all of them.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your effort to watch it and leave a long comment. Positivity layo life mein bandhu 😉
@vivekdhariwal6110
@vivekdhariwal6110 Жыл бұрын
@@TheFourthDimensionChannel I'm not sure I understand your suggestion to bring positivity in my life. Did you, a random internet stranger, succeed in concluding that my life has no positivity based on a comment on your video where I share my genuine thoughts? Wow, hmm. If all you want to hear are praises, you have yourself 2 options: 1. Make good, rich, thought-provoking content. 2. Be a sheep/make everyone laugh. If not, I suggest you prepare to handle well-intentioned criticism. It'll only help you improve. Anyway, I look forward to hearing more of Sanjay, and watching your other videos. My criticism was not from a place of negativity or bias. It was truly awful and painful to watch such learned men make zero sense. Also, your backhanded comment on the length of my comment was just.. it says more about you than me. It's not a crime to dislike longform writing. It was anyway, hardly a few lines. Damn. Chill brother. Thick skin. Peace.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
@@vivekdhariwal6110 let me assure you that it was not a backhanded comment, apologies if it sounded so. Baaki criticism is very welcome. We will really appreciate if you could be more specific about lack of knowledge, otherwise it might come across as a 'bhadas' nikalne wala comment. I dont think anyone is 'qualified enough' on meat eating or not as it lot more than just nutrition science. We all are keen to learn from mistakes and add more value, perhaps slowly at times, but that is the intent atleast. hope to hear from you further. thanks and Take care bandhu.
@Abhinav-id9mg
@Abhinav-id9mg Жыл бұрын
very low quality debate and arguments. only point was- "meri marzi hai".
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly is Sanjays point, no one should be judged based on what they eat
@globalcitizen0
@globalcitizen0 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheFourthDimensionChannel Nah.. Food choices aren't a personal matter anymore. 26% of co2 emmisions are from slaughter house industry. Also, there is no scientific reason for eating meat. So ,Sanjay Bhai rationality ka gyaan sirf upper caste ko mat do.. Right to life is a universal right. Widen your circle of compassion. Veganism is the future.
@h.a7467
@h.a7467 Жыл бұрын
invalid points by both sanjay and doctor...i don't want to kill someone is also a choice which shpuld be respected like you want your choices to be respected.. no need for counter argument
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
@@globalcitizen0 since when are the not a choice anymore? If genders can be by choice food choices should surely be. Veganism is not the only future, choice of food is.
@TheFourthDimensionChannel
@TheFourthDimensionChannel Жыл бұрын
@@h.a7467 absolutely, everyone can exercise this choice without being condescending onto the others, thats the whole larger point.
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