Indian Army & Chinese PLA disengage, what’s Gogra-Hot Springs, why heights, passes & valleys matter

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Жыл бұрын

As Indian Army & Chinese PLA disengage ahead of the SCO summit, in episode 1072 of #CutTheClutter, Shekhar Gupta explains what's Gogra-Hot Springs, why heights, passes & valleys matter, and the two areas where disengagement is still stuck - Depsang Plains & Demchok in Eastern Ladakh.
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@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын
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@ganeshsundararajan913
@ganeshsundararajan913 Жыл бұрын
Very balanced reporting with no glorification or denouncement This is what Atleast I expect Keep up the unbiased analysis going Please take the time instead of trying to constrain yourself to 15 minutes
@anansheth
@anansheth Жыл бұрын
Thanks for not discussing Queen Elizabeth’s IInd’s passing away on CTC today…
@RajasNadkarni
@RajasNadkarni Жыл бұрын
No clutter there. She's dead. Son is king.
@bokyarao873
@bokyarao873 Жыл бұрын
She is not our queen. Medieval brits require king and queen.
@Shri_Hegde
@Shri_Hegde Жыл бұрын
Is it true ? - PP 16 became buffer zone which was earlier Indian territory. So technically we lost land to china again..
@ajoy5706
@ajoy5706 Жыл бұрын
I think i have finally understood why the Chinese did what they did..initially it was a plan to test our resolve and to test battle readiness of the PLA stationed there(as mentioned in some defence policy statements..to test real life war waging capability..would have happened regardless what was said in parliament)..but after the plan failed as India showed a spine and stood her ground..plan B was quickly put into action..the Long Term Plan that started with Doklam,with large scale accomodation,roads,bridges,helipads,increasing air power,optical network..this boost in infra wont go away after disengagement,all pointing towards one thing..forcing India to play catch up..keep her engaged while keeping the vulnerability alive for when future skirmises take place and they will maybe on a larger scale..India will find herself in a big disadvantage & this force can be used when a collusive Indo US threat emerges in the South China Sea or anywere else(next time central sector coluld also see some action..while in Arunachal a different stratagy of dual use villages is being implemented)..the Chinese have hand picked locations where they needed to build more and would provide more tactical advantage..building these in peace time would have raised eyebrows..but in a compromised scenario..all is okay..as they will blame India for the increase in activity.In the future more such infra push would be seen across Eastern sector as well to keep us guessing about their next move and prepare the ground for a large scale incusrsion.The medium term goal was to delay the talks to buy time and creating buffer spaces to stop eventual buildup from Indian side in close proximity.All said and done..I would still count this whole fiasco as a bad gambit..they have bitten more then they can chew..a big positive from this is that India has now woken up from indeciveness & put focus on border developement and hopefully a long term plan with China in mind..with global outlook more in favour of India..other quad nations building military might,China has united nations with a common threat.With a slowing economy on the Chinese side & low growth in population..it seems the future is in our hands..we just have to play our cards right..bide our time carefully without hiding our strengths!..sorry for the long post..but its a topic close to heart
@Subh8081
@Subh8081 Жыл бұрын
Usually disengagement involve Chinese troops going back to its old position, but also not allowing Indian patrols to go in area they used to go, so technically creating a buffer zone in the Indian side. When real war starts, China, as agressor will quickly occupy these positions unopposed and gain upper hand. China will determine when it will be.
@sanjaysharma-jf8fv
@sanjaysharma-jf8fv Жыл бұрын
Bang on bro. We will get back our old map ...a matter of time. China bound to implode courtesy Xi
@rkrao5363
@rkrao5363 Жыл бұрын
@Ajoy: We will call this post as "Ajoy's CTC" 😀
@Quenchedfooty
@Quenchedfooty Жыл бұрын
@@Subh8081 for how long though and at what cost. They may occupy in future alright but we would be the one's toput and extract a cost on that gambit. They can't control that.
@Subh8081
@Subh8081 Жыл бұрын
@@Quenchedfooty No extra cost if no one entered Indian territory.
@TejasJain1991
@TejasJain1991 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this video! This definitely seems to be a result of shifting geopolitical alignments, esp. with PRC focussed on locking its horns with ROC, and thereby trying to ease some contention on its other front! Of course, as you highlighted, it mustn't be misconstrued as PRC softening its assertive stance as any complacency on our part would prove to be a disaster. Rather, if the internal disturbances within our neighbor prove to be conducive for us, they should very well be used as an opportunity for us to flex our muscles and keep our belligerant neighbor wary and on the backfoot! Any opportunity at changing the status quo (in our favor) should be utilised well, if we are to ever have physical jurisdiction of the areas we lost in the past! Intent and readiness to strike at the right moment (without altercation) can alone make the dream of unifying Kashmir a reality!
@hpremjit
@hpremjit Жыл бұрын
What does China gain by this stunt? Permanent mistrust from India which will take very long to repair if at all, and boosted India-US relationship. It also gives a boost to take up manufacturing as a priority in India so that India can decouple itself from the Chinese manufacturing universe.
@harisundar8698
@harisundar8698 Жыл бұрын
The Chinese have messed it up and thats why they want disengagement now hoping India will restore normalcy in relations with them, which wont happen again for sure. We will go down the path of self reliance which has started now.
@patmclaughlin107
@patmclaughlin107 Жыл бұрын
I think they made gains tactically on the land, but strategically they lost India’s trust and friendship.
@wolverine9377
@wolverine9377 Жыл бұрын
@@patmclaughlin107 They never wanted friendship with India.
@hpremjit
@hpremjit Жыл бұрын
@@speedytypermananswers5551 you said pakistan is a friend so it will do whatever China ask for friendship...... Ha ha... Pakistan is The Vessel state of China. China-pak relation is of a begging bowl and a master. Other countries in Africa and Asia are recently trapped by China with unsustainable loans. They are realising that now, and many govts have fallen for giving in to China. China wants India to be a vessel state, but only a nuclear war will happen if China pushes India. China knows this. An equal level friend will do for India, otherwise India will be forced to help the western countries to bring down China. China's economy is slowing down with an aging population, if it goes into recession it might even break up like USSR.
@hpremjit
@hpremjit Жыл бұрын
@make a wish your knowlege of outsourcing is so novice that I don't know if I should reply to you. Anyway, US, Japan, and Germany were the manufacturing giant, but they are now developed countries so the cost of production is high, also people there no longer want to do blue collar manufacturing jobs. They brought the manufacturing technology to countries like China to use the cheap labours. As Chinese people also become develop the cost of production is becoming higher now. So the manufacturing is now shifting to countries like Vietnam, Bangladesh, and India. It's not about 'don't know how to manufacture', it's all about cheap labours and higher profit margins.
@sankalp6872
@sankalp6872 Жыл бұрын
POSITIVE development. However, not worth chest-thumping and VERY important to remain Hawkish. Overall, the Chinese seem to have managed to shoot themselves in the foot. It appears they underestimated India, the US, and even the larger world or perhaps they overestimated themselves. They should never have picked so many battles at the same point. India is on an "Aatmanirbhar" mode, its relation with the US is now glued with common interests while the Chinese money is being viewed with skepticism and even costs political backlash.
@vatsalsingh1555
@vatsalsingh1555 Жыл бұрын
I would say after indian army's success in taking kailesh mountain ranges during operation snow leopard in 2020 august, that gave india some leverage during these talks otherwise chinese wouldn't have stepped back an inch.
@scienceaweek
@scienceaweek Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Though it appears China is getting soft at us, it's paramount to stay far more cautious and alert considering trust and reliability of Chinese words (Hindi Chini bhai bhai and Salami slice). Both Internal, Border security and financial strength need to be improved along continually.
@armantiwari4356
@armantiwari4356 Жыл бұрын
Sensible comments! Wholeheartedly concur. Everyone in the country must refrain from exaggerating...
@harisundar8698
@harisundar8698 Жыл бұрын
Well said👍
@siberianhusky8868
@siberianhusky8868 Жыл бұрын
India & PREND US are different categories.. boy. India is in "Ancient Hindu - Invader Muslim" mode. Most BIMARUS have no idea that this is a scam run by bania. China ahead by 20 yrs. They are very disciplined people. It's trade & military budget almost 5 times higher than india.
@AB_NOI7
@AB_NOI7 Жыл бұрын
Very well articulated Shekhar ji. And very nicely presented with the help of maps and outlining topology & actual positions of both the forces. Thanks very much to bring this up. And the IPS officer you had mentioned, Shri Akash Jindal sir, I had the opportunity to work along side him, when I had served there precisely for 3yr & 2 months. That was the time when 2020 incursions & clashes had taken place. I still remember the topology so well, I can draw the maps with my eyes closed.
@MrSuperfan72
@MrSuperfan72 Жыл бұрын
I like Shekhar ji clapping when he wants to emphasize any point. 😀
@ashokathegreat1710
@ashokathegreat1710 Жыл бұрын
Great power rivalry is always interesting... History in making....
@harisundar8698
@harisundar8698 Жыл бұрын
Disengagement at all these points means Chinese have lost their objective here which was to occupy the encroached areas and bring India to accept the latest normal as a weaker power, however the military firmness, economic measures and diplomatic measures have made sure that the Chinese are pushed back to previous positions. Congratulations on that to the government because this was achieved without further physical attacks. Chinese want some normalcy because our economic measures were hurting them and an equal sized military standing on the face did give a message of India standing their ground. However, delineating the border, regaining patrolling rights should be the long term goal along with self-reliant economic policies that will make us stronger economically, lets hope Modi government does not take the foot off from the pedal at the SCO meet.
@Happy-rm8li
@Happy-rm8li Жыл бұрын
Focus is taiwan
@wecare838
@wecare838 Жыл бұрын
average pax americana enjoyer
@anuragbanerjee2879
@anuragbanerjee2879 Жыл бұрын
@@Happy-rm8li Yes this .. hoping india would leave them alone .. till they fix taiwan .. but I hope GOI takes some advantage here
@Happy-rm8li
@Happy-rm8li Жыл бұрын
@@anuragbanerjee2879 i knew this from before.if india was aggressive a bit earlier they would have been tsken aback and almost certainly moved back.
@Quenchedfooty
@Quenchedfooty Жыл бұрын
@@Happy-rm8li true. It took them some time to come out of the Xi hangover.
@biplabbray7877
@biplabbray7877 Жыл бұрын
Once again a very indepth n detailed presentation by Shekhar ji. Slowly but steadily the geographical LAC mysteries of Depsang, Galwan n Demchok are getting unravelled. Thank you🙏
@mrinalmishra3196
@mrinalmishra3196 Жыл бұрын
Those who are saying India has lost territory are saying without any proof. India has not lost any territory. The Chinese incursions were in Chinese side of buffer zone. Firstly LAC is still not demarcated or defined like LOC or Indo Pak border. Both India and China have their own perception of LAC. But India and China had agreed upon standard LAC after 1962 war. 3-4 years back both India and China decided to have a buffer zone. Both would give let's say 5km width from standard 1962 LAC. So the total buffer zone would be 10 km in width , 5km on Indian side and 5km on Chinese side. Both made an agreement that soldiers of both side can patrol upto 5km into each other's territory. This means before 2020 , Indian soldiers were patrolling 5km into Chinese territory and same for with Chinese soldiers. Since May 2020 , China has increased its deployment and is not allowing Indian soldiers to patrol 5km into their side. Now the Chinese side is proposing to make a new buffer zone starting from LAC , 10km into Indian territory. This would mean India losing a lot oc territory as buffer zone. So till now , India hasn't lost any territory. India has lost only patrolling rights into Chinese side of buffer zone.
@mrinalmishra3196
@mrinalmishra3196 Жыл бұрын
@kunal kumar Abe chamche tere statement mei koi logic ya proof hai ?
@hpremjit
@hpremjit Жыл бұрын
@kunal kumar fun fact: the number of deaths in the Covid years is no more than the average deaths per year we see every year during, say, ten years. This by the way is not from Covid dead govt data, it is from the normal district level deaths reported.
@valkua7498
@valkua7498 Жыл бұрын
Why fight over a bunch of rocks?
@Happy-rm8li
@Happy-rm8li Жыл бұрын
Bro are u living in some other world
@sshvibha
@sshvibha Жыл бұрын
hi..how legitimate is this ...?
@kallachi729
@kallachi729 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the Nation should know. SG, it is important to tell about the events. Well done. Tailpiece: Narratives can change but events can’t.
@allanaranjo
@allanaranjo Жыл бұрын
Very well researched and detailed. Thanks.
@vijaykumar-vz7xf
@vijaykumar-vz7xf Жыл бұрын
Excellent reporting. Well researched, balanced and to the point. The right balance of history, present situation and forecasts. Loved the professional way this piece is presented.
@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын
Hi Vijay, Glad you liked this episode of CTC. Thanks for tuning in.
@arkabanerjee1627
@arkabanerjee1627 Жыл бұрын
Excellent.. learnt a lot.every episode is a gem.worth.watching learning a lot.for Every indian to be true indian..
@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын
Hi Arka, Happy to note you enjoyed it. Thanks for writing in.
@viral_baba
@viral_baba Жыл бұрын
Hey there The Print i want the clips option to be available so that I can save some clips as notes for future reference. as after one year its difficult to go through the entire clip for the info you need.
@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын
Hi Aviral, Thanks for writing in with a good suggestion. We shall look into it.
@vivekanandholla6730
@vivekanandholla6730 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information
@Dynamic1794
@Dynamic1794 Жыл бұрын
Awesome analysis
@ravikumarsribhashyam8846
@ravikumarsribhashyam8846 Жыл бұрын
Good review backed by lot of maps. Shekerji can now walk into any army commander's shoes at border area!!
@bhartivats7213
@bhartivats7213 Жыл бұрын
Yes Shekhar Sir....winter is coming and it is definitely becoming more inhospitable.
@akaj188
@akaj188 Жыл бұрын
Very informative about a lesser known area but an area which is strategically very important to both India and Chinese controlled Tibet.
@madhavdpune
@madhavdpune Жыл бұрын
Mr Gupta, thanks for a detailed account of the status. It is easy to observe your dance on the rope. Understandable. Many people lose their courage as they grow older. I didn't know people losing courge even to call out an agressor while sitting deep in one's own country. That certainly is a first you are showing us.... thanks for that too...
@rajbodepudi
@rajbodepudi Жыл бұрын
Excellent Commentary!
@shabarinathrao7870
@shabarinathrao7870 Жыл бұрын
quite complex even after decluttering!!!
@Ram78979
@Ram78979 Жыл бұрын
Good news, both nations should build on further into a permanent actual border settlement.
@yogeshkalia2167
@yogeshkalia2167 Жыл бұрын
Good to know that good back channel discussions happen 👍, Hopefully we can resolve Kashmir some day
@amanj3051
@amanj3051 Жыл бұрын
Totally, We should strive and get PoK soon.....That would be a great day....Modi hai to mumkin hai..
@DosPerspectiva
@DosPerspectiva Жыл бұрын
@@amanj3051 First, we should consolidate what we have already got. Annexing PoK doesn't make sense right now, focus on bringing peace in J&K and Improving economy
@shwetanshu100
@shwetanshu100 Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@milindchipde4175
@milindchipde4175 Жыл бұрын
Best as always 👍 ❤
@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Milind!
@abhishekkashyap9446
@abhishekkashyap9446 Жыл бұрын
No one explain this never before great 👍
@harisundar8698
@harisundar8698 Жыл бұрын
Some indications that Xi wants a talk with Modi on relationship getting back to normal during SCO meet.. wont be a surprise if Wang Yi meets Jaishankar soon. The Kailash range take over and further military and diplomatic measures have worked 👍
@Robertsmith001
@Robertsmith001 Жыл бұрын
Relationship getting back to normal 🤦‍♂️
@joshihemant2568
@joshihemant2568 Жыл бұрын
How 'long', Depsang is from this place?( KongKa/ Hot springs) I got it!! It came up @19.15!!
@AjayKumar-sh3ni
@AjayKumar-sh3ni Жыл бұрын
Hatsoff
@krishnakarthik6
@krishnakarthik6 Жыл бұрын
Lets have competitions between countries for the development of humanity but no more wars ever. 🙏
@sankalp6872
@sankalp6872 Жыл бұрын
Irredentism and ideologies are actually minuscule components of any warfare. All wars in history have been fought for wealth and power. Singapore is perhaps the only developed country with no bloodshed on its hands and has not committed any acts of plunder.
@navinasimoes
@navinasimoes Жыл бұрын
@@Parrot3054 Wrong India and China have existed peacefully since the beginning of the respective civilisations India and China are not enemies The conflict is a result of Colonialism and the MacMahon line drawn by Anglos Resolving dispute is a step towards decolonization
@navinasimoes
@navinasimoes Жыл бұрын
@@Parrot3054 Tibet was always a part of China since Yuan Dynasty just like Hong Kong
@navinasimoes
@navinasimoes Жыл бұрын
@@Parrot3054 Tibet belongs to China more so than Haiti or Hawaii belongs to America
@adityadhardwivedi819
@adityadhardwivedi819 Жыл бұрын
@@Parrot3054 Yes, they distort history to impose supremacy. This show how xenophobic chinese are as a civilization, they consider themselves as center of Earth or universe in folk tales. Add the toxic communism which makes them impossible to argue sanely. They will divert their public attention from internal matters again, we've to be ready.
@vijayrangarajanramakrishna318
@vijayrangarajanramakrishna318 Жыл бұрын
Good development on the border...Peaceful borders helps in building better bilateral relationships and builds confidence 👍 yet tread with caution ⚠️
@subbaraotanguturu9271
@subbaraotanguturu9271 Жыл бұрын
Yes. It already forced govt divert funds to safe guard borders and purchase new equipments in corona, recession and war time woes.
@jdla925
@jdla925 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for an informative session. Will be nice if you do a session on recent govt approval of Rs 10000 crore to develop Tejas MK2 prototypes leading to serial production. Will be nice if it includes high level features of the fighter and how it compares with other global leading fighters
@AB_NOI7
@AB_NOI7 Жыл бұрын
Those are already available on public domain. There have been a number of comparison research has made. And if you're asking for some secret specifications, which has been deliberately concealed? Well its a secret and shall remain to be.....
@jdla925
@jdla925 Жыл бұрын
@@AB_NOI7 yes I have seen a few. I wanted ThePrint opinion on it, they seem to hold back comments on HAL or the armed forces weapons choices and decisions some of which were quite detrimental.
@himanshugarg7077
@himanshugarg7077 Жыл бұрын
This disengagement is for a while from Chinese side you can't trust your neighbour who has repeatedly stabbed in your back . kept india in delusion and continued to build the infrastructure and stretching the road at the LAC. india is also now well aware of China's intention and hence equipping itself with advanced arms through air, land and sea. When you're surrounded by an untrustworthy neighbour you have to remain vigilant to protect the country's sovereignty and integrity.
@navinasimoes
@navinasimoes Жыл бұрын
Read Avtar Bhasin's book You will know it was Nehru who backstabbed
@navinasimoes
@navinasimoes Жыл бұрын
@@Parrot3054 Why did Nehru reject the deal when Zhou Enlai negotiated to give up Eastern sector and 70% of Western sector? And Indira Gandhi also rejected to negotiate when Deng Xiaoping came up with it in 1980? Our politicians have repeatedly acted irresponsibly I hope Modi acts responsibly
@navinasimoes
@navinasimoes Жыл бұрын
@@Parrot3054 Nope it was India who initiated the aggression by adopting extensive Forward policies This analysis was made by Indian military veterans Henderson Brook Bhagat report The disputed region was a result of a line drawn by the British between Tibet and India to which ROC was not a part of agreement to begin with Nehru's irresponsible aggressive behaviour later on inconsistent with his words caused this
@navinasimoes
@navinasimoes Жыл бұрын
@@Parrot3054 Wrong Chinese had begun the infrastructures only after India began interfering in Tibet rebellion in 1959 We had no reason to interfere in Tibet and give refuge to someone like Dalai Lama Indian forward policy in disputed region had begun since as early as 1950s While Chinese Forward policy was only wrt Tibet initially Only due to Nehru's delusions and arrogance of the fact that both US and USSR would back us due to Sino Soviet split We were wrong in the past, better to rectify and move on
@navinasimoes
@navinasimoes Жыл бұрын
@@Parrot3054 China was no in condition to wage war in 1962 Their leadership was more pragmatic and wouldn't unless before India acted hostile to Chinese security interests
@ChaudryShehryarYounis
@ChaudryShehryarYounis Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@Shashank-eh7yy
@Shashank-eh7yy Жыл бұрын
India needs to build infrastructure at war speed at border areas especially in the North East which could be the next area of conflict for india
@oneworldoneworld7013
@oneworldoneworld7013 Жыл бұрын
The disengagement is a facade. A temporary time box or temporal. China will strike at its choosing and it's timings. A postive hope based delivery by the Print as part of its analysis. A useful episode.
@anilkukreja922
@anilkukreja922 Жыл бұрын
Are Rare Earth minerals available there Hot Spring , Ghoghra
@AnirudhPsychPixel
@AnirudhPsychPixel Жыл бұрын
Thank you Shekhar. You are doing great work. Day in and out.
@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын
Hi Anirudh, We thank you for your appreciation. Do keep tuning in daily.
@umathakur8002
@umathakur8002 Жыл бұрын
Sir U know exactly where people might face ambiguity For eg. Difference between disengagement and deescalation I need not to.pause my video Clear.my doubt n come back I simply watch ur video in a single go
@mayankrajput1361
@mayankrajput1361 Жыл бұрын
Indian Army should have built post along the patrolling line like in Gogra.
@sumana-suman
@sumana-suman Жыл бұрын
I think like in a game of chess, Chinese moves are well though out and calculated. They may have succeeded to secure areas tactically vulnerable for them. From Indian perspective, we found ourselves as the weaker party in negotiations with China , never pressed to establish our perception of boundary authoritatively. As a result the entire episode of border confrontation happening now is sadly within India's own territory.
@pritesh0117
@pritesh0117 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone explain to me why we always have to follow whatever China decides? They’re probably trying to focus on Taiwan, and hence this move. But, why we move back or forward every time China forces us to.
@soumya143able
@soumya143able Жыл бұрын
Could this be because winters coming. After that situation could be same. Just wondering how China agreed now.
@pareshmehta4670
@pareshmehta4670 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@Khalis55555
@Khalis55555 Жыл бұрын
India should have engaged in a limited conflict it was very important from India's perspective.
@rohitjha9863
@rohitjha9863 Жыл бұрын
"Naala"?! Anyone who has seen Himalayan rivers at those altitudes is horrified. Maybe "stream" is more universal and apt? Great episode though.
@zga3020
@zga3020 Жыл бұрын
Hey SG, pls do a CTC on current political affairs in Bangladesh. The country is going to polls next year. Their FM recently requested India to intervene in the elections to keep Sheikh Hasina's govt intact
@kindwarrior6484
@kindwarrior6484 Жыл бұрын
India always does. The extremist and conservatives there keep making this allegations. Bangladeshi hindu and moderates don't accept it openly bt win their confidence and talk to them in private and they would accept that Indi does intervene monetarily and intelligence wise to keep sheikh hasina in power and save the country from going into clutches of islamic extremist vultures.
@rajugoborvas8964
@rajugoborvas8964 Жыл бұрын
Gogra hot springs area india can never give up. Natural place for power generation
@jitendivgi2761
@jitendivgi2761 Жыл бұрын
Depsang Plains near Daulat Beg Oldi is critical.
@ululukululu450
@ululukululu450 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@jitendivgi2761
@jitendivgi2761 Жыл бұрын
@@ululukululu450 Depsang Plains near Daulat Beg Oldi bears down on our presence near the Karakoram Pass and the Siachen Glacier. The terrain is flat and China has deployed its light tank formations in large nos. India does not have an effective light tank and is compelled to maintain its heavy duty T72 and T90 tanks which are burdensome and unwieldy at that altitude in terms of engine and hydraulics maintenance. We need complete disengagement along the entire 800 km Ladakh frontier, and not just in Pangong and Gogra/Hot Springs. China continues to play cat and mouse with India. Unless we wear them down or gain overwhelming tactical advantage as was done at the Kailash Ridge mear Pangong Tso, we will not force them to back off. It appears our infantry mountain divisions are an effective deterrence, but it now needs to be matched by our armoured divisions. That will take some time.
@RoodeMenon
@RoodeMenon Жыл бұрын
Why is it called "hot springs"? Are there pools of hot af onsens one can bathe in?
@getritu
@getritu Жыл бұрын
Can you speak about Chile
@health_life17
@health_life17 Жыл бұрын
Are we at total lose here????? Whats our current situation..?
@noobmaster8098
@noobmaster8098 Жыл бұрын
SG sir please one analysis on "Make in India" and report of Bloomberg "shortage of weapons in India"
@jsphblw
@jsphblw Жыл бұрын
It would be a waste of time. If you buy weapons, Bloomberg will have a article about how India is wasting money buying weapons instead of feeding its poor. If you make weapons, Bloomberg will have an article about how money is being wasted in defense R&D rather than feeding the poor. Basically, the criticism isn’t going to go away till you elect a leftist government. As soon as Rahul Gandhi becomes PM, the entire liberal media will wake up and realize that India is perfect with a perfect army and the perfect amount of weapons and the malnourished in India aren’t really malnourished but rather on this new water only diet that is perfect for weight loss 😁.
@noobmaster8098
@noobmaster8098 Жыл бұрын
@@jsphblw nice Joseph 😅❤️
@IASachin
@IASachin Жыл бұрын
Namaskar sekhar dada 🙏 Aur kaise ho?
@ajaykrraina
@ajaykrraina Жыл бұрын
Mr Gupta, by now, you must be considering me a perpetual critic. But my reasoning is different and we can leave that aside for now. Coming to your remarks about disengagement and de-escalation. Ladkah is a field/operational area and our troops and artillery have been deployed in certain areas for decades now. That is a compulsion and to that extent, classical de-escalation will never happen unless the world stops fighting. Disengagement, thus, is vital and as long as that happens, it is a big step
@el-jp3xp
@el-jp3xp Жыл бұрын
If no one entered why they are disengaging?
@harisundar8698
@harisundar8698 Жыл бұрын
Chinese encroached our patrolling areas in some of the points in the LAC and this area is not demarcated or line drawn, so its a disputed area where both sides claim. Now the chinese gave gone back to their areas, that is disengagement.
@jaspreetmodi
@jaspreetmodi Жыл бұрын
This video seems was like a tutorial to understand the area and rest ... I was waiting to hear if and how much of land China has taken away especially since Modi ji came in or even anytime after 1962 loss ... I hear different views on it.
@Al-Pacca
@Al-Pacca Жыл бұрын
SG is the Bond of Indo-China reportage so, this episode of CTC was Shekhar-ed, not stirred.
@shanu4807
@shanu4807 Жыл бұрын
Nice one buddy
@anurag10
@anurag10 Жыл бұрын
Shekhar ji - I have been a fan of yours since 80’s reading your India Today articles. I love the topics you create videos about. My humble request is to please summarize the issue and why should we care in
@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын
Hi Anurag, Thanks for writing in.
@Khalis55555
@Khalis55555 Жыл бұрын
Sir, you are a master of international politics as well as defense is one of key strengths at the bottom of your heart - One Nation has to budge and the way - The BJP is going and this Hindu Nationalist Movement its first casualty as per the nature of law would be China - MAYBE I AM WRONG. THIS MAN MODI JI WILL NOT STOP AS HE HAS ONE MIND - ONE DECESION - AND NO CHOICE FOR BJP AS THE HINDU NATIONALIST PARTIES WILL BECOME IN MAYBE MONTHS RUTHLESS SLAUGHTERS AND WOULD ENSURE THAT EVERY INCH OF INDIAN LAND WE GET BACK. RSS is the only good thing which maintains the Indian entity not just of Hindus, Sikhs but even Muslims - AS WE ARE INDIANS FIRST.
@Drganguli
@Drganguli Жыл бұрын
Chinese respect strength and abhor weakness
@BomBoyzhiphop
@BomBoyzhiphop Жыл бұрын
Russia has achieved what they wanted to which means they Won the War 👍
@spsingh4180
@spsingh4180 Жыл бұрын
Why no programme on Bharat Jodo Yatra? Strange! What should I make out of your silence, Shekhar ji?
@drtgopalakrishnan
@drtgopalakrishnan Жыл бұрын
Good 👍 Review. Chinese response may be after India Japan talks of military cooperation. Or China wants to concentrate on Taiwan for now.
@gauravvatsa1138
@gauravvatsa1138 Жыл бұрын
What about if they use drones now... India should invest in this field ...
@surendrabarsode8959
@surendrabarsode8959 Жыл бұрын
Good informative cut the clutter. India needs to keep its build up and ensure that no more transgression or intrusion occurs even as we go back to pre 1993 position. As we are now much better prepared and hopefully, will be even prepared in future, Chinese will behave themselves. But border settlement is not on the horizon as of now. Who will fulfill Nehru's dream of India having its 1954 map territory in its actual physical control??
@ululukululu450
@ululukululu450 Жыл бұрын
Is there any benefit to india by becoming anti-China? Wouldn't it be better if india joined China as a Chinese province?
@surendrabarsode8959
@surendrabarsode8959 Жыл бұрын
@@ululukululu450 India was never anti-China ( Nehru- Hindi Chini bhai Bhai etc.- all that nonsense) but China was anti India, just like Pakistan. Let China settle the border and have peace
@reddragon100
@reddragon100 Жыл бұрын
@@surendrabarsode8959 yeah, Before communist came to power in China, China and India were close friend till 1949. Nehru thought PRC govt. will be just ROC govt. who previously controlled china and supported india in independence and were against India partition. CCP used nehru thinking that India relation with CCP will be just like ROC-India relation and nehru believed and invited them to India saying hindi-chini bhai bhai. Nehru thought as Chiang Kai-shek promised to him in 1942 that after India and China will make a joint asian pact after Indian independence and ww2 and nehru thought Mao will have same idea but in reality, Mao saw every asian nation as inferior to China and wanted china control over all. Mao just played him and trick him
@arpittariyal1018
@arpittariyal1018 Жыл бұрын
Chinese are like we may look peaceful but we r good at doing work peacefully and secretly
@sandyk3128
@sandyk3128 Жыл бұрын
Well ,being a soldier, I always feel that Chinese and Pakistani always retreat to come back with new strategy and checkmating us. We must be more cautious and plan, prepare accordingly
@shubham_M99
@shubham_M99 Жыл бұрын
Pls make a actual fact video on report saying India 'Running Out Of Weapons' Due To "Make In India" Policy. I mean Is it really true ??
@tonyraheja1
@tonyraheja1 Жыл бұрын
Disengagement welcome.... Need to watch em carefully.
@sumanvyas6761
@sumanvyas6761 Жыл бұрын
I did not understand why China wants to disengage .
@hindustanzindabad..9259
@hindustanzindabad..9259 Жыл бұрын
As tension with Taiwan & winter is coming soon bro.
@25arkay
@25arkay Жыл бұрын
Dear Sir, do you think this disengagement is temporary and China is simply messing. Historically, whenever top leaders have met, there were always one or the other mischief committed by China.
@RRR-nz8pi
@RRR-nz8pi Жыл бұрын
Can you do a CTC on Chilean people's descision to reject new leftist constitution
@navneet8269
@navneet8269 Жыл бұрын
Shekhar ji aapki Jo debate ya jo aapki yah pasand a gai usko Hindi mein aap print copy bhijwa sakte hain uske liye Jo charges hoga ham Dene ke taiyar Hain Jo bhi aapki episode acchi lagi uske bare mein ine Hindi
@tahanlaoboy
@tahanlaoboy Жыл бұрын
The area might have a lot of gold and other minerals
@PseudoProphet
@PseudoProphet Жыл бұрын
Nobody told us anything about this in 2013. 🙄🙄
@sandeepakgupta
@sandeepakgupta Жыл бұрын
This guy tries to show off as a great analyst but in reality is a very "surface" charming uncle. Someone who was convinced that 370 won't go.
@pushpindersingh1819
@pushpindersingh1819 Жыл бұрын
Depsang is still occupied. When will peace be restored in Depsang?
@tintunbirha
@tintunbirha Жыл бұрын
India's border " The Mcmohan line" is with Tibet, not China. China should not even be in the picture. China has occupied Tibet against its will, and for peace and friendship between the two countries, Tibet should be vacated. China's border with Tibet settled thru the U N if required, which had allowed this occupation in the 1st place. If we could help creation of Bangladesh to solve enormous refugee problem, then why not reclaim Tibet, an erstwhile Indipendent country. Again to send back all refugees.
@kirandeepchakraborty7921
@kirandeepchakraborty7921 Жыл бұрын
Quantity of information was too much I guess.
@ringbasu6700
@ringbasu6700 Жыл бұрын
"Taiwan needs to be on alert " china making moves
@akashyadav1958
@akashyadav1958 Жыл бұрын
Resume the talks
@shammykumar5537
@shammykumar5537 Жыл бұрын
I just want one ans. Whether chinese occupied extra Indian territory apart from the one occupied in 1962 or not?
@pushpindersingh1819
@pushpindersingh1819 Жыл бұрын
Na wahan koi aaya hai.... Na koi ghusa hua hai....phir wapas koun sa bhoot ja raha hai?
@MrSpiritsurf
@MrSpiritsurf Жыл бұрын
Chinese have upgraded their infrastructure in the area.
@ganeshdore
@ganeshdore Жыл бұрын
Shekhar Sahib ... A gallant effort ..with crude maps ! ... Please remember .... China goal is to invade and capture Durbuk ...on the shores of the Shyok river. With Durbuk , China can control all of Eastern Siachen , Nubra Valley , and all of Eastern Ladakh including Pangong and Demchok...Plus full control of Karakoram Pass. Galwan Valley provides China with direct access to Shyok River From Hot Springs , the valley ( Going West ) provides direct access to Shyok River. Another 10 miles of incursion into Demchok means India cannot have direct line of sight of China Hwy 219. ++++++++++++++++ The Indian army Generals ( and Nehru ) who accepted the LAC demarcation at Tiger Hill in 1948 were idiots. Why ? Cuz Tiger Hill allows Pakistan to have direct line of sight to National Hwy 1. As a minimum , in 1948 , India should have taken Neelam Valley ( KishenGanga ),Khaplu , Skardu , Gilgit and Chilas. Bheja Fry Desi mindset. Churchill was right.
@vibhavagarwalla8718
@vibhavagarwalla8718 Жыл бұрын
We should include Vietnamese veterans in our strategic planning re China. They have the right pulse of Chinese mentality.
@mysmartkryptonite354
@mysmartkryptonite354 Жыл бұрын
Pla in 1979 and pla is now, lot different, war concept has changed a lot. Pla will not fight in 3 domain.s They will fight in 6 domains
@blackpanda8435
@blackpanda8435 Жыл бұрын
As mentioned by Kishore Mahbubani, Indians are too emotional about their little stretch of border with China and this has prevented Indians from looking at the bigger picture, i.e. to improve and expand their economy by opening up to foreign investments and also lifting their large population over the poverty line. Instead, they prefer to look after their few rich Indian oligarchs and totally ignore the well being of the mass poor.
@Pulkit29
@Pulkit29 Жыл бұрын
Honest feedback: please use better maps and please focus more on the map instead of SG's face when explaining these geography intensive topics.
@ThePrintIndia
@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын
Hi Pulkit, We appreciate you writing in with an honest feedback.
@girishdubey724
@girishdubey724 Жыл бұрын
0:30
@redjacketapache9904
@redjacketapache9904 Жыл бұрын
An absolute negative anchor? dose he mostly says only about what India / indian-troops cant do, cant access, cant patrol, followed by how indian / Indian-troops are Blocked, Not possible for India/Indian-troops, not-likely get in there(destination)..... ? What would have happened to china if it had one such journalist which such journalism?...would china have disintegrated long back?...."Lord, protect me from my friends; I can take care of my enemies." -Voltaire... lets rephrase it.... "Lord, protect Indian from negative journalist; Indian can take care of all external enemies." .....Long live freedom of speech, Long live freedom of expression, Long live freedom to have my views. please comment and correct me if i am wrong(chamchas excuse).....God Bless All Always.....
@giftfortoday2643
@giftfortoday2643 Жыл бұрын
They just went to cover the beach near Taiwan. They will be back.
@ashwinghadvir9109
@ashwinghadvir9109 Жыл бұрын
Please make ctc highlighting the dark side of uk royal family to make people aware.
@saurav6510
@saurav6510 Жыл бұрын
Abbey humari LAC kaun si hai be??? Yellow line wali ya phir red line wali????
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