Expedition Everest definitely has a conservation/respect story line. The yeti is mad because of the over tourism and the tourists not respecting the mountain. Which is ironic coming from Disney…. Regardless there is definitely a story and message

The book "The Lost World" by Arthur Conan Doyle takes place in South America, and features an isolated plateau where dinosaurs still survive. That could be a good tie-in with Indy

Arthur Conan Doyle's "The Lost World" features an ancient population of dinosaurs living on a plateau in South America. They could definitely spin a sort of "expedition to the lost plateau finds ancient ruins full of dinosaurs." An additional fun fact: Carnotaurus is a dinosaur from South America. So there's that! (Also the skeleton you see in the pre-show is a carnotaurus skeleton, not a T. Rex one!) My issue with Dinosaur the ride as it stands is that it's mostly just a bunch of careening around through the dark with an occasional lit up corner with a dinosaur in it. You never feel immersed in the ride like you do with the Indiana Jones one.

I still think they should do more with Dinoland beyond destroy it. If anything, I hoped Dinoland would become a paleontological dig with a digsite coaster and Countdown to Extinction

Give us a very similar ride, but rather than Sallah, have an older Short Round portrayed by Ke Huy Quan be involved!

As a massive Indiana Jones fan, I’m super excited to finally get more Indiana Jones at Walt Disney World, but as someone who really enjoys Dinoland and the Dinosaur ride, Imma be hella sad to see it go 😢 and I think it better compliments Animal Kingdom than Indy could…

I could also see Animal Kingdom slowly losing the real animal aspect in much the same way as Hollywood adventure lost the actual studio aspects.

I don’t see why they can’t improve and revamp the land instead 🙄 Whole point of Animal Kingdom is to promote conservation and the fragility of life when facing extinction

I think the difference between Pandora and the potential Tropical America's section WOULD be that Joe Rhode was still involved in getting Pandora to fit in with the rest of the park. Even with the current shake up in Imagineering I am not optimistic about the new Indy attraction actually being conceptualized in a way that would thematically fit within Animal Kingdom.

My personal wish would be to keep Dinosaur with maybe an updated pre show and onboard audio and build an Indy themed roller coaster through a Dino dig site where Primeval whirl was. It could tie into the theme of animal kingdom by paying homage to people like paleontologist/archeologists whose studies help us understand past animals.

This is like an artist wanting to make a new painting, already having access to a bunch of blank canvases & painting materials but instead, the artist decides to paint over an already existing painting. If Disney wants a "Tropical Americas" section in Animal Kingdom, then they should use the free area(s) of land (like the one they're using for this construction project) they already have access to. Destroying Dinoland is not the answer & I REALLY hope something happens to prevent it from happening. If they want to improve Dinoland, then they should consider -Updating Dinosaur with a new pre-show & new animatronics -Give Restaurant-osaurus a new Menu -Construct more Animal Enclosures with creatures that are considered "Living Fossils" -Have Interactive Dinosaur Encounters (Baby Dinosaurs, Pterosaurs, Lucky, Aladar, etc.) -Have a Good Dinosaur Musical in the Theater in the Wild -Construct a Excavator Roller Coaster in or near The Boneyard area -Construct A Water/Log Flume Attraction based on the Ice Age franchise in place of Dino-Rama.

I think Disney should just replace all there parks besides Epcot at this point with 3 living with the land theme parks, this what we all need trust me.

Expedition Everest shoe-horns animal preservation and information about mountain animals throughout the pre-ride queue. Several rooms have displays of recently extinct or soon to be extinct animals. They tie the story of the Yeti in by comparing a soon-to-be extinct fictional beast with real life soon-to-be extinct animals. Keep in mind that Animal Kingdom was always suppose to have fictional beasts, such as dragons, as well. I doubt very much that they will keep the Dinosaurs. The tonal whiplash would just be cheesy. The overall lore and expanded universe of Indiana Jones could easily shoehorn in real life Central/South American species alongside probably some mystical creature. Quetzalcoatl makes an appearance in 1999's Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine video game and would make a fantastic animatronic...

I had always hoped that DinoLand USA would be replaced with "Dinotopia", based on James Gurney's book series of the same name, as Disney had also helped produce a "Dinotopia" TV miniseries back in the 2000s.

I think the only route they can use to fit this ride into Animal Kingdom is if they focus on the indigenous culture surrounding the ride. The storyline could incorporate elements of indigenous cultures and their relationship with the natural world. But that's just me.

Some thoughts: - Disney has never imported anything from the Tokyo parks/OLC, so I don’t believe the new ride will be a clone of the TDS version - The OLC, a company known for high upkeep, didn’t recreate the moving door or ice effects in Tokyo, so I don’t think we’ll be seeing those ever again. - Credible rumors indicate that the ride will be completely different from the current versions. This makes sense because a lot has changed since 1995/2001. - With Joe Rohde gone, I don’t have as much confidence in this ride sticking to the conservation theme like how Pandora did. Also, I think Everest has a message about respecting animals and nature. - I’m excited for this change

I think Indiana Jones is better received for a couple of reasons: 1) the music, it's so integral to the experience that everyone comments how the pause is very noticeable; 2) Almost every scene is packed with something special to make every moment distinct: well-done projection mapping, Indy!, awesome central hub with laser eyes, mummies (currently on vacation?), bugs, bridge and lasers, huge animatronic, scrim (admittedly sad), explosion, more projections, darts, Indy! Boulder! Yes!. In comparison, I don't even remember if the Dinosaur ride had music and every scene is just Dino, Dino, Dino (DDD). DDD isn't necessarily bad, no one can complain that the ride isn't what it says on the building, and a few scenes are done very well, but better music and a bit more creativity in how things vary and are executed will go a long way regardless of what the new theming will ultimately be.

How do you make an Indiana Jones ride animal themed? Well I can certainly think of one animal Indy wouldn’t like 🐍

Animal kingdom is not 100% about conservation. Its about the intrinsic value of nature / animals. This is explained by Joe Rhode quite a bit and it explains why Everest is a perfect fit for Animal Kingdom

Having an existential crisis over this, because Dinosaur is my favorite ride, and I'm pregnant, so I don't know if I'll be able to ride it one last time before it closes. The only thing is that I hope that they keep or retheme the Dig site. My almost three year old is obsessed with that playground, he spends hours there. And while there are other playgrounds on site, none are as big and well themed as that one.

Animal kingdom is slowly losing its identity completely. Fist it never got the dragon/fantasy section. Then they got sci fi aliens put in. Now they are taking away dinos and adding a explorer, a magic house, and mexico. Might as well just change the logo at this point. Remove the dragon/dinos and add a Naavi, a house, Indy, and a skeleton to the logo.

Everest is about the consequences of human and nature interaction, which does tie into the conservation mission. It's not just about "going high" lol. But I don't sub to this channel for it's keen insight on global affairs... I do so because he puts out a video on Saturday when nobody else does.

Thinking Expedition Everest isn't about animals or conservation is certainly an opinion.

I think that Disney could actually make Encanto work in Animal Kingdom if they did a ride through Antonio’s eyes. The little backdrop they had at the front advertising Encanto last time I went featured Mirabel but also Antonio. A lot of their Encanto promo is with Mirabel, Bruno, and Antonio. So I have a feeling they’ll go the route of centering those characters and have Antonio talk to the animals to teach us about them.

I think there is a lot of ways they can tie an Indy ride into the Animal Kingdom theme. Just think back to Temple of Doom, the Sankara Stones brought the people lands life, they were dying without them. Indy could be there investigating something like that. Maybe tie the dinosaur theme with the McGuffin of the ride and how birds or the ancestors of dinosaurs and he needs to restore the McGuffin to restore the birds, that way you can have some talk about evolution, etc outside the ride and maybe even some animal exhibits (I really hope the new land has some central american animals...)

Carnotaurus is not a t rex. Sue the t rex is outside the dino Institute. (Named after the woman who discovered it) The fossil on the inside is the carnotaurus from the ride and movie. Carnotaurus was from the late Cretaceous period and from south America, and was the largest carnivore to have horns. T-rex was also from the Cretaceous but was in western North America and had a longer "snout".

My whole family loves Dinosaur... but the area is weak. It's sad, cause it didn't have to remain that way, but it did. They gave it virtually no love and most people aren't aware or forgot that the Dinosaur movie even happened. (The attraction wasn't even tied in hard to the IP anyway.) I think Diz is going to scrap the whole Dino-thing in general. They've got some vibrant popular IP's with Encanto and Indy and that's more than enough to work with to get guests to travel to and actually stay in that land for more than ten minutes. (Antonio's gift gives them a great plot point to work from as well... and magic is not a topic that is devoid in the Indiana Jones' storylines. They'll figure it out, but I think the dino's will either have an extinction event or be pushed into a corner as a much smaller exhibit/attraction of some sort... somewhere.)

One problem with the dinosaur idea- and maybe this really doesn’t matter because they can fudge it... Indiana jones is an archeologist. He studies the artifacts of human civilization. Not a paleontologist who studies the natural world through fossils.

I wonder if Josh will actually fix the prices and park hours and turn back to normal. Just because he is Igers friend doesn't mean he thinks the same thoughts as him.

That carnotaurus jones is something i needed. Thank you

Archaeologists. Don’t. Do. DINOSAURS.

Perhaps they can make some sort of ancient animal reawaken after you "take" something in the ride like when you "look" into the eye of Mara. It could be really cool.

Anthropologist Dr Jones Jr is in Latin America studying local myths about a living Dinosaur. Discovers a Lost World. If cryptids work well enough for Asia …

I could see a ride title tying the attraction to an animal theme. Maybe something like "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of Snakes," or "Indiana Jones and the Sanctuary of Animal Spirits." Imagineers could come up with a compelling storyline and catchy title.

I rode dinosaur first before I became a Disneyland girlie. I was blown away by the difference. I feel universal does the whole dinosaur theme way better, but disney can really do the adventure and treasure seeking theme better. I'm so excited for a change to Indiana! (My condolences to those that liked the dino land area).

Great, a boring Indiana Jones copy, just what we needed! Dinosaurs are also in South America, and literally Carnotaurus was found in South America, so that is what confuses me even more.

Disney doesn't care about theme anymore. Just look at Hollywood Studio

If dinosaur gets replaced by Indiana jones and the temple of the intrusive corporate IPs, Animal kingdom will never be the same. The opening day speech even specified that it was a park of animals from the future, fantasy, and PAST. If dinosaur goes, so does the parks roots. #savedinosaur

Why don’t they just build a new Indiana jones ride with the infinite space they have? The dinosaur area has a lot of potential and should be upgraded, not destroyed.

I haven’t watched the video yet, but I heard that Dinosaur will be rethemed to Indiana Jones and I was soooo upset. Am I alone in hating when they copy rides from other parks? It really removes the incentive to visit other parks when they have the same rides. Can Disney just not be bothered to come up with anything original these days?? Ugh!

i honestly am very devastated that they're changing the dinosaur ride. As someone who grew up with a love for the prehistoric animals ive always had a very fond place in my heart for that ride. I know it has its flaws, being cheesy and kind of out of date, but I just thought that dinosaurs were much more fitting for animal kingdom. but thats just my take on it. Very very heartbroken.

I think Indiana Jones could actually work thematically with animal kingdom if they try hard enough. You could even incorporate a reptile house of sorts in the land or next to the attraction. Featuring Snake's and such. Would be a cool nod to dino land plus it's a call back to indy's relationship with snakes.

Indiana Jones belongs in Adventure Land, or even Hollywood Studios. Pandora belonged on Hollywood Studios. They could even add Wakanda to HS. You know, like they did Galaxy’s Edge.

Offhand Disney is such a learning experience. I never knew that India was in a different part of the world than South America.....lol. I always thought we were all connected in some big super continent and we could call it Pangea.

Can they make it work? Yes. Will they? Absolutely not. We already saw with the Splash Mountain Retheme they don't care about consistency when it comes to adding new things to the park. Going from a Western Themed Town, to a Swamp, to a Western Mountain Mine. If they can add an IP somewhere, they will. How they put the Hatbox Ghost in the Hallway scene of the Haunted Mansion. Instead of trying to make an idea that never had the chance to be what it could've been, Iger's Pulling another Iger and getting rid of things to replace them with Modern IP that doesn't work where he thinks it will. None of the IPs they plan for Animal Kingdom have ANYTHING to do with Animals, they aren't IPS like Jungle Book or the Lion King. Heck, even Avatar had a lot to do with Nature, so that somehow worked. Disney is creatively bankrupt and frankly... there is no confidence or faith in them to deliver on anything halfway decent of a replacement that isn't just shameless corporate synergy.

I'm going to be so sad if they get rid of all the dinosaurs, Dinoland was my favorite part of Animal Kingdom

So if they get rid of Dino land it’s just steering away from the park theme, the animal kingdom sign/logo will have to be changed since it already doesn’t have dragons and it won’t have dinosaurs either, plus this is a ride you can actually get on without waiting 3 hours, big mistake if they do Also it’s a carnotaurus skeleton, the t-Rex skeleton is outside and that only exists because mc’donnalds and Disney bought the fossil also known as Sue, as far as I know she is the most complete T-Rex found

If they rename the land to South America, then that would allow Indy and Encanto to fit better. The land could also feature food,as well as souvenirs, from South America.

The skeleton in the queue of Dinosaur is not a T-Rex. It's a Carnotaurus, the species that stalks you throughout the ride and that was in the Dinosaur movie.

10:48 So Indiana Jones and the Lost World [the South American plateau one, not Jurassic] mash-up? That sounds cool.

Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Crystal Skull at Tokyo Disneysea is very similar to the ride at Disneyland but it is South America themed. I think they will most likely go with that as the concept art looks very similar.

I’d like it if they even just focused on snakes… maybe with some enclosures in the queue…. That would be pretty cool. Very on brand. They’re prehistoric-esque creatures. Or possibly birds? They’re contemporary dinosaurs. Both are animals that we have direct impacts on currently. Which I personally would prefer over extinct dinosaurs. My favorite part of animal kingdom is *surprise* the animals. It’s a zoo and a theme park. I think more habitats with animals native to south America is what is needed

What if the story is that indi is going after a mythical “guardian of the animals” and finds out humans aren’t welcome into the sanctuary and the message is “humans shouldn’t mess with animals habitats” something like that

Dinosaur X Indiana Jones Idea: Indie is Indiana Jonesing a ancient temple and discovers a sister to the dial of destiny! After escaping a temple trap the dial activated and send Indie back to the pre-historic world, one that is Counting down to extinction, then it follows Indie trying to save as many dinosaurs as possible. Having taken refuge in a cave we get the boulder scene and the Dial re-activates and Indie returns to the Modern World!

Offhand you have great story telling! I really enjoy the way you speak your thoughts ! Thanks for sharing dude !

I’ve said it before, if Disney wants to retheme Dinoland it should become Zootopia, it makes sense within the park, and they’ve already created a Zootopia land in another park

hate to break it to you... its not a T-Rex fossil in the attraction it is a Carnotaurus in the cue. it even says Carnotaurus on the plaque and in that Bill Nye voice over.

“I get it now. I see. We’re all going to die. That’s what this ride is about.” Best description of Everest. Ever. (That, and Disco Yeti, of course)

Also Animal kingdom is not about nature conservation exclusively. its about or connection to nature and Everest is about respect for ancient cultures.

I can definitely see them tying S.E.A into the attraction, especially with the Jock Lindsey Hanger Bar having a ton of S.E.A/Adventurers Club references at Disney Springs. I can see Indy fitting in Animal Kingdom if they incorporate some kind of mythical creature into the temple lore, like a Coatl (South American mythical a snake with wings). A Coatl can also link to the S.E.A through the Shinji Takashi book series too 😀

I love Dinosaur personally, it's a nice break from all of the super popular IP and the ride... smells great..

As a MASSIVE Dinoland fan who also only likes 2 indy movies, this VERY MUCH upsets me. I wish they would just improve Dinoland and add these other attractions elsewhere. The parks need more capacity, and replacing existing capacity does not solve this problem. And dak needs dinosaurs and an awesome Dinoland.

Carnotaurus is from South America. Not hating the Indy+Dino idea lol

Your commentary on Everest is so accurate to what I both think and say while riding every time. 😂

Once they do start work, the area will be closed for 3-5 years or more. Expect an opening date some time around 2030. It seems Disney feels it's just as good to have something in the works as actually having finished attractions. And if they're working on reworking Dinoland, don't expect they to do any work on the Peoplemover. So maybe some time next decade they'll think about it.

Animal Kingdom has always tried to balance an ecological conservation message with an anthropological celebration of traditional human cultures and their relationships with the environment as the kind of baseline theme of the park. I wish they would add Indiana Jones as a separate attraction in the Tropical America's pavilion and revamp the area around Dinosaur to fit more with the rest of Animal Kingdom. Dinosaur to me always represented the Animal Kingdom not just as what species exist today, but those which lived in previous epochs, giving a wider view of ecological and environmental messaging beyond the present into the past. Adding a Moana style gyser and hot spring walk through area around current Dinoland where you can learn about the geological processes that shaped the Earth, how animal and plant remains are preserved, and how the earlies roots of the tree of life evolved into the complexity of life we have today would be educational, ecological, and give a fun context of humanity's place within the vast history of life on our planet. The Dinosaur ride as a museum style queue could be expanded to have an actual side museum attachment after leaving the attraction with replicas of the greatest finds in paleontology exhibited and showcased, a place to eat and rest out of sun and bad weather while still having a good time. Just saying Disney, dinosaurs are always a solid investment because everyone loves and is fascinated with those big lizards

I was kind of upset when they announced they were getting rid of Dinoland, because Dinosaur is one of my favorite rides, and Indiana Jones made no sense to me in Animal Kingdom. Your optimism makes me feel better about this, though, and if they do include dinosaurs in it, that could actually be really cool.

i know you mentioned that the Indiana jones ride takes place in India, but we must remember that Indiana jones and the ark of the covenant starts in south America. So, they might be doing that as a ride

I said this on another channel, they should use the idea of the most recent movie, and have it time travel ride in the South American area, where you slowly go back to when Dinosaurs were around, but then also other times, when it was more jungle and covered by wild animals..

The first time we went on Dinosaur it was the opening year when it was called Countdown to Extinction. Being super excited we told the ride operator “it’s just like Indiana Jones!” She looked at us like we were crazy. She says, “No. Indiana is a show.” And then we had to explain we were from California and OUR Indiana was a ride. Her jaw dropped and she got really excited to hear more, but unfortunately we had to board the ride. Now, years later, I think replacing Dinosaur with Indy would be great, but maybe a different version of the ride.

Wonderful vlog!!…. Has had me sitting on the edge of my seat in excitement. !!!👏😄

Expedition Everest is about conservation, in so many words it's about Mother Nature punishing consumption and capitalism.

I'm not sure I've ever heard that Bill Nye narration in the queue before. 😮 Granted on my last trip I walked straight through, but I seem to remember it either being quiet or light music.

I was always hoping that Hollywood Studios would've gotten its own Indiana Jones Adventure over time. I agree that it doesn't fit but then again, I don't think Guardians fits at Epcot (should've gone to Hollywood) and Tron should be in Epcot in Guardians place.

Is no one talking about the Indiana jones ride in Disneyland Paris??? Adding another coaster into the park that is needed? It’ll cut down on wait times for Everest AND passage

Possible new animal themes for Indiana Jones at Animal Kingdom--- 1)Indiana Jones Adventure: We Named the Dog Indiana 2)Indiana Jones Adventure: Ending Primate Poaching for Chilled Monkey Brains

A story where Indi raids a tomb in which an ancient tribe has kept the dinosaurs alive all along would be cool. Could tie it into conservation with not upsetting the echo system, preventing extinction but making sure dinosaurs aren’t let loose in the modern world would be cool.

This is something I hope Joe Rhode looks at while he's at Imagineering, he knows the park inside and out.

Random video idea, but I definitely think you should talk about the next “original” Disney ride that could come down the line. By original I mean something like Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Big Thunder, etc… something that’s original from Disney Parks. Maybe about what you think it could be, where it could be at, would it have public interest, would Disney ever do such a thing considering how much money established properties make? I think it would be interesting to discuss. Enjoyed the video!

Both the Back to the Future ride and Universe of Energy had dinosaurs kinda shoehorned in so why not an Indy ride? They could just keep the queue line as if you are entering a museum that has a natural history exhibit as well as antiquities which could keep some of the educational aspects alive too. Indy has lots of animals in the movies - primates, elephants, crocodiles, giant ants, and of course snakes. It makes more sense in AK than Encanto IMO.

I just got back from “Dinoland USA” and i cannot express enough how much they need to run a bulldozer through that thing

The skeleton in the Dinosaur Que is a Carnotaurus not T-Rex, and they both lived during the same time period.

That guy pointing his finger towards the camera at 11:57 is sure a very mature and likeable person

If they are removing dinosaurs might as well remove the dinosaur and dragon head from park entrance at this point. Same with AK logo remove dragon and dinosaur since beastly kingdom and now Dino usa won’t be a thing anymore

Dinosaur is my favorite ride and I’m actually devastated for it to go 😭

Disney should fix up Dinoland USA to make it more relevant with plenty more dinosaurs and lots of other prehistoric creatures in addition to dinosaurs!

They should honestly make a unique Indiana Jones story where he finds dinosaurs, hence keeping some dinosaurs and mixing it with indiana jones.

Snakes. I think it's gotta be snakes. (Or mythological creatures. Maybe they're looking for artifacts related to some mythological or sacred beast. I think that's the safest bet.)

I honestly don’t care if the ride is animal themed anymore. If it’s mostly cloning TDL’s version, I would be fine. I think it’s funny that an Indiana Jones ride is possibly going in a land that was already sorta (and soon formerly) excavation themed.

Indy could easily tie in with Dinosaurs. As other have mentioned, it may be inspired by the Dinosaurs from Lost World. Carnotaurus were from South America. Dinosaurs living around temples has been seen in similar media (Tomb Raider). Lots of ways they could do it.

Look man, I like Dinosaur USA, it was undoubtably one of my favorite Disney areas as a kid. But it has been in obvious disrepair for so long, arguably since it opened. If replacing it is the only way it'll get an update, I can swallow my nostalgia for an necessary update of some kind.

I belive that the Encanto concept ride will take you through Antonio's room. This would make the most sense because Antonio's power is the ability to communicate with animals so the ride could be a transformer ride at US but riding an animal in a race around his room maybe. That's just a possibility of what that could be.

Having Indiana Jones be a dinosaur excavation site would be a great way to keep dinosaurs a part of Animal Kingdom (you know their logo and all lol), keep it somewhat educational (not just a some mystical concept we all associate Indiana Jones rides with), and South America does have paleontology history and fossil record to pull from.... AT Bare minimum the queue could be a Fossil dig site.... Also if they are doing a South America land there should at least be 1 or 2 tiny, little exhibits for animals (like a lizard, monkey, or even bugs for all i care). Side note, you should do a video on why the Animal Kingdom Boat/River ride is no longer a thing, and if it one day could be a ride again in the future (if they didnt do dinosuars in the South America Land, it would be a cool idea for the boat ride if it ever came back)

Guys, there’s plenty of plots of unused land perfect for potential expansions to Disney’s Animal Kingdom that’ll double its size and include lots of new rides to add capacity, new animal attractions with live animals, new shows, and lots of other cool stuff! I want that multi-phase expansion for Disney’s Animal Kingdom to happen and right on time for its 30th anniversary!

They should tie-in S.E.A. into Animal Kingdom more. Expedition Everest already has a small nod thanks to the Skipper Catten, (without spoiling if you haven't read) the first Shinji Takahashi book does shout-out a location in the park, but the Society needs to have a bigger presence.

Maybe the temple that Indy is there to excavate is actually a shrine to some sort of animal and rather than defying Mara, like in Disneyland, the premise of the ride is that we’ve awoken the animal spirit that guards the temple and its angry at people for going into its shrine and digging up the land. Imagineering can then build a new animal animatronic to take the place of the carnotaurus.

Its funny how people are saying that Animal Kingdom is losing out on the live animal aspect. Meanwhile the only area getting removed is a land that was all about extinct animals. People who are upset with Pandora need to realize it didnt replace anything, it was just a completely new land.

If I were to make a Indy ride for animal kingdom, I’d make it a snake temple. The snake god would be pissed off people have enter it’s temple and chase you out. The finale would be the snake lunging at you, using the same tech they now have for the t-Rex. The morale would be to not disturb nature, which fits with the theme of AK.

I like the idea of keeping the dino's in the ride. Would be cool if they move the boneyard over to that area that looks like a dig site on the drawings.

As a fan of the original Indiana Jones trilogy (I'm not counting 4 & 5 as canon), it doesn't fit in Disney's Animal Kingdom and also Dino Land USA fits the park well because it deals with prehistoric animals, specifically dinosaurs which are very popular. Seeing that attraction disappear will not be the same. 🦖🦕