I'm the 7 ft giant on the right end of the IU snare line and i just wanted to say that SCSU was SICK! those guys were so cool and I had a blast drumming with them Props to both lines! Probably the most fun I've had in a line. =]

Nice to see an HCBU & a Corps Style/DCI drumline battle. Needs to happen more often. Props to both lines!

Both schools put on a show. I have marched for a corp style band in high school and for a black university show band. Both styles are unique and entertaining. Both of these lines threw it down and I would say it is a tie due to the different styles and showmanship.

Nice exchange. This was a wonderful case of apples and oranges. This needs to happen more often among HBCU bands. Who knows? It might help other lines improve, if not innovate, in the process.

Dude awesome!!! SCSU was laying down beats and so was IU. This is great!

Such a great time! So glad SCSU was able to come up to this game. Wish we could have played some more and talked a bit, but it was great to play with you all! - IU cymbal player

I see Indiana University’s drum line played “ Latin Lover” by Jim Casalla, legendary percussion arranger, and head percussion instructor for both Santa Clara Vanguard and the Cavaliers. Nice percussion feature 👍👍

"They're two drum lines that take two different approaches. So it's not really fair to pick a winner." I agree, well said! Case in point are the way that each group interprets their changes and rhythm combos within their perspective cadences.

It never gets old...love the fun side of this. SCSU...that was a great line that year.

idc about a winner, i just think its pretty neat, that even different styles would come together and battle like this. i haven't seen this too much.

Aren't drumline battles supposed to be one part precision + one part showmanship? Every band competition I've seen have been based on both. If that's the case, while IU, one of my alma maters, was clean, SCSU completed the mix much better because IU was almost no show. And I don't care about the corp versus show band comparison, there are some corp bands which incorporate show into their battles and some show bands exhibit corp extremely well. Just saying.

I've marched corp and high step. This was the best drumline battle I have ever seen. Both drumlines sound awesome!

Man oh man these young people are very talented!!! Love this! 🥁🥁🥁🥁

One of the best battles on youtube, we need more of this

Shoutout and mad props to all the guys and gals in the SCSU Drumline! It's not often we get a chance to drum with any drumlines outside of the Big Ten and this will definitely go down as one of the best drum offs we've had in the history of the IU Drumline. Absolute blast! Thanks again guys! -IU Bass 2

Gotta be a part 2 to this AMAZING

Indiana had nicer cleaner beats, SCSU was more fun.

I'm the section leader at Savannah State University and I have to say out of all the HBCU conferences the MEAC has the best drumlines. I'm glad to see the trend of the HBCU drumline wanting to be more technical...it's a good movement. (I wish FAMU would get on board with it.) But yeah Bango Brothers, MDF$, ColdSteel, Sudden Impact, and Krush Groove are the lines to look for in the MEAC! NICE BATTLE.

Are people saying there's a "Style" difference simply because it's a black line vs a Majority white Line? Both lines played very melodic material. The make-up of the lines aside from the tenor drums (single) was the same. They both had choreography and visuals. Are they not both playing percussion instruments. Don't see much of a style difference here. Just two good lines sparring musically.

As a member of a visiting high school band that day (Seymour, mellophone 1.) I think I speak for our entire band when I say we were completly BLOWN away by both bands. As our director went to IU we do alot of big ten band performances, and the SCSU band blew everyone out of the water. You guys are all such great inspirations to high school musicans, thank you so much for such a GREAT performance :))))))

I hate to say it IU go South Carolina State in this one; but, let Norfolk State come in that!🤙🏿

This is what I'm talking about! HBCU and PWC lines exchanging cadences! Great job to my BBI FFAm, and the UI Line! That 'Roll Out' bass drum lick was nice!

I know that it's any drumline's goal to play as clean as possible because that's one thing that makes watching, listening to, & playing in a drumline fun. What I mean is show bands are more visual than corp style bands so it's no argument that corps style groups tend to play their music cleaner from player to player than show style. Both groups are very good, but like I said, I don't really think it's fair to say either one is better. They're both very good for their different performance styles

I think they were both amazing!! SCSU added more flair so therefore I would have to choose them as the winners!!

Fantastic. I love percussion. I thought both drumlines were great!

If you close your eye's and listen (highly recommended) Indiana State was way more crisp and precise!

both very impressive. Love to be there in person. I have no musical talent at all so I am blown away by these people. Great video!

Enjoyed both drumlines. Great job!

Don't sleep on Indiana. Crisp and Clean. I liked both lines

@kglasker a few of the HBCU lines (MEAC) particularly have either had instructors or members in the line that marched DCI, MDFS (Alex Blake) and Sticky (Ralph Nader) for example, so as you stated the gap is definitely starting to lessen, and over all quality in playing is definitely going up

Very nice job to both drumlines!

Sounding good Indiana. I haven't seen SCSU before. I LOVE the fact that they have the tradition of HSBC's in their drumming AND they have some modern technique and quality of sound in their approach too... Really nice to see them combine the two seamlessly. I'm afraid to scroll down through the comments since I'm sure the usual haters will be on here.

MDFS should have been in this to. I think both lines were excellent, well played. I'm also a drummer and I was impressed. They should have a big drumline competition and everyone should be judge together on cleanliness and precision and showmanship no matter hbcu or Corp style. The competition should be HBCU AND all other college bands together and I think they should also do a mass drum session like they do at the Honda BOTB. Let's make it happen because that's one show I will not miss.

I love HBCU and Div. 1 drumlines but Scsu drumline i feel is the only HBCU percussion section that can keep up with any Div 1 percussion section hands down.

@kglasker Much love and respect I currently play snare at Savannah State University(Krush Groove) .......... but yeah we need more percussion intructors just like the one at SCSU

Very impressive. I would have to call this the first tie that i have ever seen. IU excellent fundamentals, and a fair amount of soul. SCSU good technique and a lot of funk. Great job by both drum lines.

The nigga on Indiana side @ 6:04 was thinking "Damn..im on the wrong drumline" \

First off, shout out to IU home of Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc. Good to see these two squads getting a chance to showcase their skills. All those hours of practice make this 10-15 minutes all worth it for a lifetime of memories. Great job to both sides. Bongo Brothers Inc. keep doing the damn thing!

@mega man i agree with you. being a sc state alum they realy went easy on IU. i know for a fa t that state coud have come out the bag more for sure especially when someon like my self seen better drumline performance a a student on the campus andthey would then drumline the other bands drumsection socks off.

@irdeson.Much respect..only reason i said that is because SCSU percussion instructor was a former snare drummer for the blue devils which gives them an edge on most HBCU percussion section. like i said before i love hbcu percussion section VSU, MDFS, JCSU, A&T, Albany State, BCC, Howard drumline is coming up, i live right down the street from howard and theyre stepping their game up big time. Those are some of my favorite lines. Check out the vid Scsu vs Mdfs.

This was a g reat battle. I didn't expect IU to battle them. Good job

@IUBboy05 Realest thing I heard all day No other band would give props to a band that's not theres and doing so you have more maturity than alot of bands imo. And yall was clean imo. -respect

I marched both styles too. I like both lines. They both are good. And I almost went to scsu but they didn't have my major.

This is epic! I'm an I.U. Alum and a drum corps vet. I was totally expecting SCSU to come out with the tradition HBCU routine. They showed their versatility by playing corps and holding their own against I.U. Way to go!

Indiana played Latin lover from DCI

I like how you note that. Not many would really do so. Show/Pagent bands are VERY different from Corps.

Both amazing

Great! This was interesting...

i being a former member of MDFS (NSU), has always looked the other way at SCSU LIne, but the Young Lady that went to Wilson, and ole boy with the dreds have gotten my attention on KZfaq!!!! Both Lines were great, and especially proud of the two i mentioned above as well

This is like the most classic thing ever!

Great Job on BOTH sides!!! #choppin'

Nice battle! I actually prefer battles outside on tha 50, old school style. Both lines sound good!

This is so cooool!!!

After listening to this for the third time I can hear what you're saying. IU's piece whilst less flashy was more clean and the beats were audible.

Bridging the gap.....you gotta love it either way

That line was so clean, i could eat from it.

I enjoyed both!

IU has one of the top schools of music in the country so of course their drum line is going to play clean.

basses @5:00 .....outstanding! just the split 6tuplet between 1st and 2nd wes a little unclear (i think 2nd bass was a little behind. ridiculous difficulty in the timing coming out of a roll) Nice run! I love it!

Glad to hear another rational thought in here! I prefer the DCI sound, but it's a fun mix from SCSU.

Both bands really did well. I wish I could have heard SCSU's response to IU's second go. Clearly IU took it up a notch. Lol. I think music is the great equalizer and it's awesome that these two Universities were able to get together and make magic. I do hate it was labeled as a battle but nonetheless this was great. Hopefully, this isn't an aberration but a new fad.

I haven't seen many good college lines and I was surprised at this video. Both were pretty good but the stick height consistency of Indiana was a little better and in my opinion (solely my own) I think the togetherness looks much cooler and shows more talent because it's harder than just playing. But thumbs up to both lines.

i enjoyed it

i saw yu bell , guud job man

I'm a drum corps guy and I have to give props to SCSU. Nice playing and they have some definite style. I like the head bob at 3:51.

Ultimately this is whats it all about, furthering the progression of percussion as a whole! IU crushed, SCSU crushed, awesome job by both lines. I'll leave you all with this...chops are chops whether its show style or corps style. Keep crankin!!

I like both.

@Qdog2321 haha, understandable, i do the same thing with Bluecoats drumline cause i want to be a Bluecoat. I was extremely impressed with SCSU's playing quality, a lot better than other HBCU's i've seen

SCSU drum line was also nice in their drum beats 👍👍

Old school DCI style i liek it!

That second number that IU played was cold blooded!

I really enjoy "Latin Lover" five minutes in played by Indiana. I played the snare part my junior year on LA Tech's line.

This was historic in so many ways..

LATIN LOVER GRANDE!!! god its so groovy! (my high school plays it.)

IU probably was a little cleaner, but I think SCSU hung in there. I didn't even know these two played each other, and I honestly don't know how good SCSU's drumline is. It's always good to see a contrast in styles no matter the music, and some us we HBCUs need not be afraid to display or improve our technical side.

Real niz

as an IU alum I am freaking stoked over this.

@crunkcymbals09 technically FAMU is technical with the drums its just that they have their own style and its been that way for years. it looks like they use the moller technique though

I did not know SCSTATE drumline was this raw OMG I love it ,Taurus Lovely FAMU FALL 94

Indiana sounds very clean and the precision is awesome.

Mann they r two bad ass lines hard to judge this battle

I love it!!!

I would like to see Clemson in the mix.

no thats what u called druming...

your right. its not about how good you play, its about how much you dance right? yeah, that'll get you far

i applaud scsu because like that dude said, theyre a show band but the play hard crap and pretty well at that. good for them.

the snares on the far right @ 4:13 are getting into it!

This reminds me of when we (NCCU DOA) played James Madison University's percussion section. It's not about winning or losing its about showcasing the similarities and differences between the two sections and styles. Big ups to SCSU AND IU for holding it Down.

hell... im a drummer, and im blown away!!

Both drumlines are very good but scsu won that one ✔️

Neither of these brumlines can touch "Cold Steel" at North Carolina A&T State University. Too bland and robotic!

As a '99 grad from the mighty SCSU, I have to say IU snares were more clean and bass more punchy but SCSU wasn't far off on sound either but if you take an overall look at both... that 101 still got it but it was very close!

as a drummer you are correct

nice

SCSU snares were a bit more clean, and I noticed some scrambled eggs in IU's snares a few times. It wasn't difficulty level either, as there were straight 16th notes. Bass drums were cleaner on IU's sided, but that may be down to the pure numbers as HBCU's tend to use toned basses and like 4 36" bass drums for impact. Overall, I would have to give it to SCSU.

Big boy from SCSU snare line chopping with the serious game face on lol 🔥🔥🥁

i respect indiana just because they went head to head with a HBCU school,most DCI schools are to scared to battle HBCU not all but most of them are. and i like indiana because unlike other DCI schools they have a lil groove with what they do. WE NEED MORE BATTLES LIKE THIS

I would have to agree on some parts of what you said only because I've played both sides of the tracks. I hate corp style marching but I have to admit it felt great to hear judges tapes and the percussion sections takes the least amount of hits the flag team but to honestly say no fun or swag you have to actually been there to know whats really good. And they should keep that stuff at those D1 schools cuz HBCU's get down

There is a difference between corp style and southern style. You may enjoy one more than the other, but that doesn't make it better. Trust me, "if you went to IU", it wouldn't change anything. We like the way we do things.

i can't lie, them IU cymbals were tight!!!!