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Indians? Natives? Indigenous Peoples? Every year, people seem ever more confused by these various terms. So here's a handy guide.
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@sleepysteev2735
@sleepysteev2735 Жыл бұрын
The only resistance I have to using the term "Indian" is that I live in a community with a significant population of both American Indians AND Indian-Americans. That is, people whose ancestors come from India, the country. You can imagine the confusion that develops when the terms "Indian-American" and "American Indian" need to be used in same sentence.
@hawkfirequeen5766
@hawkfirequeen5766 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in a community with a lot of Indian-Americans but basically no Native Americans, so "Indian" has always meant "from India" to me.
@BruceWayne-qe7bs
@BruceWayne-qe7bs Жыл бұрын
@@hawkfirequeen5766 How were them?
@ViktoryDragon
@ViktoryDragon Жыл бұрын
When our two peoples meet, we share a drink and joke about the white man
@iwersonsch5131
@iwersonsch5131 Жыл бұрын
Have you asked whether the Indian-Americans are alright with being called Hindustanis?
@JDoe-gf5oz
@JDoe-gf5oz Жыл бұрын
I usually say "engine" (KZfaq won't let me spell it the other way) so there's no confusion. NA or AI is just too antiseptic for casual conversation.
@daxter956
@daxter956 Жыл бұрын
Hihi, Canadian here. Aboriginal has been generally rejected by the indigenous people here. You'll find it in textbooks and legal writing but we just use indigenous here, at least in Southern Ontario and Quebec. There's an article by Taiaiake Alfred named "Colonial Stains on Our Existence" and a section in it called "Spaces We Occupy" where the first 5 or so paragraphs talk about the term, it's worth a read imo. :)
@gamermapper
@gamermapper Жыл бұрын
Why tho? Those two terms seem to literally mean the same exact thing. Is it just because of aesthetics?
@NicolaiDufva
@NicolaiDufva Жыл бұрын
Can you provide some pointers to the article you mentioned? I haven't been able to find it, just some lecture notes from a college class. I notice that the TRC specifically chose "aboriginal" as the blanket term, so I wonder what other voices are out there wrt. this term
@songcramp66
@songcramp66 Жыл бұрын
From personal experience, Native seems to be the most common word to refer to indigenous people out here in Lower Mainland BC. Not Native American or Native Canadian but just Native.
@cookieflip6923
@cookieflip6923 Жыл бұрын
@@gamermapper i was told in school that the term aboriginal can be seen as degrading (not original? idk) and the term aboriginal is largley used now for australia and it would be confusing or something
@abdisaniini
@abdisaniini Жыл бұрын
@@gamermapper I heard that it was due to the fact that Aboriginal could be interpreted yo mean "not original", as well as the fact that the term was given by outside people to the First Nations/Inuit/Metis. Where as the term indigenous was chosen by them, and as such, is now considered to be the correct term. This is all off of memory, so take it with a grain of salt, but hope this helps.
@empatheticrambo4890
@empatheticrambo4890 Жыл бұрын
What about the difference between “Nation” and “Tribe”? I feel like those have important legal and social implications
@yeezet4592
@yeezet4592 Жыл бұрын
Nations can have multiple tribes in them. Maybe
@chrisschafer9137
@chrisschafer9137 Жыл бұрын
This is a very broad generalization, but generally, a "tribe" is a group of people living together, and a "nation" is a group of people with a shared heritage and history. The best practice is to see what terminology the individual native group prefers to go by because they can mean different things in different contexts. According to the Smithsonian, "The word tribe and nation are used interchangeably but hold very different meanings for many Native people. Tribes often have more than one name because when Europeans arrived in the Americas, they used inaccurate pronunciations of the tribal names or renamed the tribes with European names. Many tribal groups are known officially by names that include nation. Every community has a distinct perspective on how they describe themselves. Not all individuals from one community many agree on terminology."
@alangivre2474
@alangivre2474 Жыл бұрын
Nation is like an ethnicity, tribe is like an extended families. Nations include many tribes. Not all nations are tribal.
@JMM33RanMA
@JMM33RanMA Жыл бұрын
@@yeezet4592 Haudenosaunee AKA [originally] Five Nations, but Now Six Nations consist of the Mohawk, Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, and Seneca and after 1722, the Tuscarora. The Use of nation is usually used for the collective and tribe for the constituents, but opinions differ.
@TheReaverOfDarkness
@TheReaverOfDarkness Жыл бұрын
A nation is a state which is internationally recognized as such. Calling these states "tribes" is just a way of otherizing them and making their territorial claims appear less legitimate.
@ndlmous
@ndlmous Жыл бұрын
As a certified Cherokee who grew up in the capital of Cherokee county in a Cherokee nation housing project I speak from experience when I say "Quit making new titles, we're Indians, damn it"
@cadenbigler
@cadenbigler Жыл бұрын
That's what CGP Grey said in his video and living near reservations in Utah that's what I was used to saying. Then I got into High School and College and many non Indian/Native American people did not like the term "Indian" explaining that it was a term given by colonialism to a very diverse group of nations and identities. While it is true, the more people I talk to from those groups, the more I hear that Indian is preferred. The bureau of Indian affairs also gives credibility to the name, as many Indian nations and groups from around the US are represented there. Very interesting the dichotomy that at least I saw at University, where many were very uncomfortable with Indian and I found myself using it less for fear of seeming out of touch. But then I chat with my Native American friends and most of them don't care either way. Hopefully this discrepancy will eventually abate, and there will be less confusion all together
@ndlmous
@ndlmous Жыл бұрын
@@cadenbigler You are exactly right, I have always maintained that anyone who feels the need to watch their words around one group but not another, however well intended, amounts to you treating people differently due to ethnicity.
@enotsnavdier6867
@enotsnavdier6867 Жыл бұрын
@@ndlmous Definitely don't use Indian in Canada tho
@xXxSkyViperxXx
@xXxSkyViperxXx Жыл бұрын
and then, Indian people in India be like: 🤫
@SeraphX2
@SeraphX2 Жыл бұрын
This is how you know all of this is bullshit. So you are claiming the name Indian, that by this video's train of thought, would have been forced upon these groups by "colonizers" because Christopher Columbus thought he was in India so called you all Indians. Everyone needs to stop because you can't please everyone.
@demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929
@demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929 Жыл бұрын
My wife is an Anishinaabe woman, And her great grandmother was sent to a "wash the native away" school at the age of 4 when her mom died. As a result of that school she used derogatory terms for natives until her thirties when she found out she was one.
@Praisethesunson
@Praisethesunson Жыл бұрын
Oh I have a similar story to your wife! My dad was raised and 100% convinced we are Italian. My sister, he, and I did a DNA test. Turns out my family are native of Chile. No Italian at all. Turns out my dad's great great grandfather came to the U.S via New York and they changed his last name to Italian (thus he would be higher up on the Murican racial hierarchy).
@demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929
@demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929 Жыл бұрын
@@Praisethesunson Wow I've never heard of that situation before and and interesting that your great great grandfather was given that opportunity but also a tragedy that his native culture had to be denied. My great grandmother on my father's side was Cherokee and when her Irish husband moved her to California she pretended for most of her life to be Pacific islander to Avoid the racism.
@FelisImpurrator
@FelisImpurrator Жыл бұрын
@@Praisethesunson Half the Chinese immigrants here in the Philippines did the same thing - changed their names to Spanish surnames to get past racism. Apparently my mom's side basically bought theirs through some kind of paid arrangement with a local woman to basically inherit her surname. Wild shit. Man, race is still the weirdest, most nonsensical social construct to me. Never understood it and probably never will.
@7pillarscollaborative502
@7pillarscollaborative502 Жыл бұрын
My grandmother was a residential school survivor and told all of her children to tell people we were Mexican. My grandfather did not agree with her so I was fortunate to have been raised with some cultural education.
@demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929
@demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929 Жыл бұрын
@@7pillarscollaborative502 I'm glad to hear that your grandfather gave you what he could about your culture. At the same time I have somewhat of an understanding about where your grandmother was coming from. My great grandmother lived on a reservation in Oklahoma. She was blended so farer skinned. She met an Irish immigrant and they moved to the West Coast where she spent her life passing herself off as a Pacific islander.
@SamGBSR
@SamGBSR Жыл бұрын
I’m from mexico and in our spanish the word indian (translated as “indio”) is basically a slur, to the point that even calling people from india that feels super weird. So I always shied away from the term in english. This is good to know! But please don’t call any mexican “indio” ever lmao
@jorge6207
@jorge6207 Жыл бұрын
In Brazil, Índio (pt) is widely used colloquially and it's not generally considered derogatory.
@nic5264
@nic5264 Жыл бұрын
I've noticed this amongst my Mexican family: if you're not talking about someone from India, "Indio" is taken to mean "dark-skinned", "ugly" or "lower-class" which is ALL kinds of problematic and highlights a particular type of colorism and racism in mx. For instance, I had a cousin tell me regretfully that her daughter was born too dark, ie "salio muy india". Oof.
@Jason-hg1pc
@Jason-hg1pc Жыл бұрын
!Matando Gueros! I only add that because it's the title of my favorite Spanish-spoken death metal band. I was quoting their lyrics before they were translated to me in English by my Latino metalhead roommate. 🤘
@SamGBSR
@SamGBSR Жыл бұрын
@@nic5264 yikes!
@vfsdm
@vfsdm Жыл бұрын
What do Mexicans call people from India then, is there another euphemism for it?
@EchoLog
@EchoLog Жыл бұрын
Don't forget creoles! The Métis\Mestizo of the US south! My family is from Louisiana and I'm predominantly French and Native. There are a bunch of different terms for us based on region and specific ethnic blend however.
@SoberGin
@SoberGin Жыл бұрын
I don't know if Creole applies here. Creole is more generally used for mixed race descendants of those who moved or were displaced by colonization. It doesn't necessarily imply American Indian (or other native) ancestry. I know of people who identify as Creole who's ancestry are African and French, for example. As opposed to Mestizo, which is pretty solidly a native-Spanish mix and little else. I do think it was worth mentioning in the video, since he mentioned the others, but I don't think its comparable due to being too broad compared to the other mixed groups.
@eliotguerin192
@eliotguerin192 Жыл бұрын
@@SoberGin It gets confusing in Louisiana because Creole has colloquially become what mixed race people of black, white, and native descent are called here. But in a broader sense, yes you are right about the definition of creole.
@mutalix
@mutalix Жыл бұрын
Creoles has mostly been african american mixed with French European americans.
@eliotguerin192
@eliotguerin192 Жыл бұрын
Originally, Creole applied to anyone who was born in a colony as opposed to in France. In French Louisiana, white Frenchmen, mixed, and black colonists were all Creole. But it slowly morphed into an ambiguous term for mixed race people in former colonies of the New World
@somebodysomewhere6770
@somebodysomewhere6770 Жыл бұрын
Or Melungeons, which are the Creoles/Metis/Mestizo of the Appalachians.
@andremartins7150
@andremartins7150 Жыл бұрын
I went on a road trip around the US and spent quite some time in native reservations. I was surprised by how much the answer varied. Even among the American Indian population there is disagreement. Almost like they’re not a monolith. But all in all I do recommend visiting and learning about their individual cultures. It’s all fascinating
@JayReaction530
@JayReaction530 Жыл бұрын
Amerindians is what they say in Caribbean countries like Guyana because Guyana has people of Indian decent from the Indian subcontinent so I'm guessing it's a way to distinguish
@J_Stronsky
@J_Stronsky Жыл бұрын
You should have kept going - do a worldwide version of this. I know that'd be a big task, as you really need to consult alot of people to make sure you're getting it right. It would be worth it though, I think this is very helpful to people and well made.
@Sanguicat
@Sanguicat Жыл бұрын
Seeing the Ainu and Ryukyuans being talked about would be super cool
@heronimousbrapson863
@heronimousbrapson863 Жыл бұрын
The term "Indian" seems to be coming less popular now due in part to the increasing number of South Asian immigrants. It causes increasing confusion.
@abandonedfragmentofhope5415
@abandonedfragmentofhope5415 Жыл бұрын
There are also a lot Asian Indians already in many nations in the Americas especially the Caribbean.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
Rajputs are Indian. Apache are Native American. Deal with it!
@AJAYSINGH-ns1vv
@AJAYSINGH-ns1vv Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreygao3956 what you mean.
@Nahasapasa
@Nahasapasa Жыл бұрын
In Australia we've also started calling our Indigenous population "First Nations". I have no idea when or why this started though
@abandonedfragmentofhope5415
@abandonedfragmentofhope5415 Жыл бұрын
Probably an influence from Canada.
@alangivre2474
@alangivre2474 Жыл бұрын
Latin american indigenous system is an extremely complex system (usually called "indigenous ethnicities"). Some of indigenous identities are extremely strong: Quechua in Peru and Ecuador, Aymara in Bolivia, Guarani in Paraguay, Mapuche in Chile, Maya in Guatemala, sort of. Mexico has thousands of extremely strong different ethnicities, some of the most importants are nahuans, mayans, mixtec, zapotec, otomi, etc. Most of the times, you'll have a mixed identity between spanish (criollo) and indigenous -mestizo-, black and spanish -mulato-. And many times, it is a mixture of spanish, indigenous and black people altogether (usually called mestizo too).
@noon_io
@noon_io Жыл бұрын
I think there are some problems with this oversimplification, namely the focus on the term "Indigenous" being defined against European settlers. One of the issues with the term "Indigenous" as applied to people from non-settler states (such as Japan with Ainu people, the Middle East with Assyrians, Kurds, Yazidis, Armenians, etc, Basque in Spain and France, and others) is that it is very vague and lacks the comparatively clear distinction between settlers and settled that you see in the New World.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 Жыл бұрын
And also, I wonder why african people are not considered indigenous, they've also been colonized, and I'm no specialist, but I recall that there are some african people who have still less rights than the "europeanized" africans ^^'
@noon_io
@noon_io Жыл бұрын
@@krankarvolund7771 Africa in particular is a very complicated area to apply this term, especially since all of Africa is not the same. You can even think of this term with regards to Bantu peoples who colonised much of Africa before Europeans, and see that the term "indigenous" isn't as clear here either.
@igorokinamujika2073
@igorokinamujika2073 Жыл бұрын
Basque here. I've never seen anyone referring to us as "indigenous". Although some comparisons have been made with other groups that are called "indigenous", like native americans. Which is somewhat problematic, as basques were heavily invloved in spanish colonialism. You can find lots of basque surnames amongst spanish colonizers, explorers, conquerors etc.
@SeraphX2
@SeraphX2 Жыл бұрын
@@noon_io This is why everyone needs to just stop fucking caring so hard. Creating problems where there shouldn't be any.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 Жыл бұрын
@@noon_io Yeah, I should've said some african people ^^' Like the San people in South Africa (also known as buschmen), who live in the Kalahari desert because they were pushed back by the sedentarians africans, long before european colonisation ^^
@ranenleung9970
@ranenleung9970 Жыл бұрын
I put on the video expecting a 40 minute video and was surprised when it was over in 4. Banger as always Mr. KB.
@jessicasettle1843
@jessicasettle1843 Жыл бұрын
Oh just you wait
@ranenleung9970
@ranenleung9970 Жыл бұрын
@@jessicasettle1843 I just started the two hour one. 😆
@alaayousef960
@alaayousef960 Жыл бұрын
I've been checking the channel regularly for about a month just to see a new upload. Your topics are always interesting to me, so I'm excited to see this new project of yours!
@petemartin6270
@petemartin6270 Жыл бұрын
loving the quality ferret content i'm in MN and confused about the Dakota/Lakota/Ojibwe split, now that you mention it. i can't wait to watch the full vid.
@angrybirdsandwich2334
@angrybirdsandwich2334 Жыл бұрын
Always excited to see a knowing better video
@Turdfergusen382
@Turdfergusen382 Жыл бұрын
I was just wondering yesterday when you might post again. I love your content. You have helped to show my world views a lot in the last two years.
@joshnicole7794
@joshnicole7794 Жыл бұрын
Im glad this came out. Ive been stuck at Knowing Good
@rayne6719
@rayne6719 Жыл бұрын
Love the long content. Love the small.
@SacredDaturana
@SacredDaturana Жыл бұрын
I feel like "indigenous" also has an additional implication of political and/or social disadvantage in some way. Like the northern Chinese Han are technically indigenous to that region but we don't think about them in that way because they're the demographic majority and also hold the political power in the region.
@timothyhicks3643
@timothyhicks3643 Жыл бұрын
The term only really makes sense in the context of groups whose land was colonized by settlers from a foreign power, usually within relatively recent history. KB defines it only as people whose land was colonized by Europeans, but the term is also often applied to groups like the Ainu in Hokkaido and the Berbers in North Africa (to distinguish them from the Yamato and the Arabs, respectively, who came to control those lands). Hence the term “indigenous” doesn’t generally get used to refer to ethnic groups like the Han who are advantaged in their own home region because their lands were not systematically settled by a foreign power that could then subjugate a group within their own homeland.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 8 ай бұрын
In that case, would Sub-Saharan Africans be indigenous?
@ookamiblade6318
@ookamiblade6318 Жыл бұрын
Came here after I saw a 10 questions where you mentioned nobody watched these. I'm subscribed and the algorithm never even let me know these were uploaded! So watching now!
@ClarionWalker
@ClarionWalker Жыл бұрын
I'm just happy a video came out!!!!!
@darthdenco
@darthdenco Жыл бұрын
To be fair: There are people who will get mad at you for asking others how they wish to be addressed. Luckily those people should be ignored.
@JM-qb2kd
@JM-qb2kd Жыл бұрын
Here I’m Michigan’s upper peninsula, my tribe the “Sault tribe of Chippewa Indians” predominantly call each other “Indian”, but many people tend to call us natives. Personally, I don’t mind native, but I definitely know quite a few people who strongly dislike being called native. The main reason for this post I suppose is to explain that many people view the use of “Indian” as wrong, offensive, insensitive, or even possibly bigoted. But I did want to share the fact that not all tribes feel that way. Most people in my tribe prefer to use, and be called Indian.
@micahbonewell5994
@micahbonewell5994 Жыл бұрын
What do they dislike about being called native?
@trevornorris6309
@trevornorris6309 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in the eastern upper peninsula with a lot of Chippewas. I’ve only ever heard and used the term Indian. I’m now a student at U of M everyone here thinks Indian is a slur.
@abandonedfragmentofhope5415
@abandonedfragmentofhope5415 Жыл бұрын
I can’t use Indian for you guys since I’m Asian and know plenty Indians from India. They find the whole thing as “We were Indians first and we’re the true original Indians.” Also it gets confusing because where I live I meet more Indians from India than I do Indigenous Americans.
@JM-qb2kd
@JM-qb2kd Жыл бұрын
@@micahbonewell5994 maybe it has something to do with white Americans again telling us/them we now have to use a different term to describe ourselves because they (white Americans) deem it less offensive to us.. even though they don’t seem to understand maybe it’s offensive to just decide what is and isn’t offensive to us.
@JM-qb2kd
@JM-qb2kd Жыл бұрын
@@trevornorris6309 I’m not gonna lie, I’m genuinely was surprised to see a comment from a fellow yooper.
@luisurdiales3091
@luisurdiales3091 Жыл бұрын
2 Knowing Better videos at once? Absolute madlad
@tommasopaniccia7551
@tommasopaniccia7551 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what's the definition in English, but the meaning of the word "indigenous" is just "born there", and defines any local population that didn't migrate to a place (so also Europeans in Europe). "Aboriginals" means "since the origins", and kind of means exactly what you said about indigenous: "a population that was there when the place was put on a map or in writing".
@Doug_M
@Doug_M Жыл бұрын
I think it's similar here...but the thing is, they did migrate here just like everyone else. They migrated over the Bering sea and eventually spread out over the continent.
@TanBoonMoh
@TanBoonMoh Жыл бұрын
"A population that was there when the place was put on an European map or in European writting." I think this is what you mean. "Aboriginals" of Pacific Islands and the Americas made their own maps and write their own words before the Europeans arrived.
@nrok113
@nrok113 Жыл бұрын
I think a note on how to ask would be good. "what are you?" can definitely have someone make fun of you
@CorvusOscen
@CorvusOscen Жыл бұрын
Geographical guides are helpful.
@Impzhahaha
@Impzhahaha Жыл бұрын
The CGP Grey influence on this video is crazy 😂
@ratdude747
@ratdude747 Жыл бұрын
Well, this video is about as far as CGP's gotten on his series. Not an easy topic at all since it's very nuanced and very controversial :( .
@the_BunnyBox
@the_BunnyBox Жыл бұрын
Me literally losing my mind thinking the same thing 😂
@henryyoung7852
@henryyoung7852 Жыл бұрын
it would be nice if CGP grey finally makes that video about indian laws like he promised 5 years ago lol
@Impzhahaha
@Impzhahaha Жыл бұрын
@@henryyoung7852 Sadly I think he decided to save face and avoid controversy over education this time :/
@extrahistory8956
@extrahistory8956 Жыл бұрын
@@Impzhahaha I wouldn't say that. The probably ended down another rabbit hole, and Im pretty sure that he has been quietly working on it behind the scene. The same applies to Emperor Tigerstar's mega project to map out the entire history of the North and South American continent, all the while including as many Native American nations and tribes as they can.
@Bluehawk2008
@Bluehawk2008 Жыл бұрын
Eskimo is still used academically as an umbrella term that groups together the Inuit of North America and Yupik of Siberia, but not the Aleuts, Tlingit and other Alaskan natives. This has to do with linguistic and archeological taxonomies I don't really understand.
@gamermapper
@gamermapper Жыл бұрын
Aleut people still speak an Eskimo-Aleut language, so it doesn't make any sense to exclude them. You'd assume they'd be related to the Inuit and Yupik.
@tideoftime
@tideoftime Жыл бұрын
I was *literally* in the process of looking you back up again because I realized I hadn't seen any vids from you for some months now... then this showed up 7 minutes ago (as I was scanning stuff)... lol
@cathrinb4425
@cathrinb4425 Жыл бұрын
the longer video about "Indian removal" will also be uploaded soon
@metalstones215
@metalstones215 Ай бұрын
You letting Ferret roam around the back yard is a bold move dude. love your vids!
@aapokrook9633
@aapokrook9633 Жыл бұрын
Hope you will keep making more long form content
@megarigged
@megarigged Жыл бұрын
@Renan_PS you right, it's his longest video yet
@SquidCentauri
@SquidCentauri Жыл бұрын
The last time I was this early to a Knowing Better was... Well never. KZfaq got me in the feed before the notification even arrived lmao. Nice!
@profoundpronoun4712
@profoundpronoun4712 Жыл бұрын
Another knowing better video!!!! Whoooooo!!!
@ninetailscosmicfox5585
@ninetailscosmicfox5585 Жыл бұрын
This is great. Watched it prior to your essay and I almost cried thinking about how ignorant I’ve been.
@aazhie
@aazhie Жыл бұрын
Love all the ferret footage at the ends of videos :3
@nicolasmarazuela1010
@nicolasmarazuela1010 Жыл бұрын
Describing indigineus people in the polar regions, anthropologists still use the word Eskimo. The reason is, that besides the Inuit there also exist the Yupik and the Iñupiat - not counting more subdivisions. Because of that, if you refer to all indigineus people of the polar cricle you still use eskimo. A problem is with indians or native americans. There are tribes which prefer the first term and trübes which prefer the second. Because of that, many anthropologists use a term, they feel comfortable, describing the whole ethnicity.
@godlesssnowshoe
@godlesssnowshoe Жыл бұрын
As a native person i prefer the term native but simply because I'm horrible at spelling indigenous (if other people refer to me that way it's fine I just cannot spell it with out auto correct) but honestly I don't have issues with the term Indian either its just inaccurate. My moms side is native and from the rez, I havent talked to all of them about it as she has 6 sisters and therefore many cousins lol, but my grandparents and the two aunts I'm close with think its kinda ridiculous people get mad over the term Indian. My grandma, very ill and basicly on her death bed, laughed when I asked her if she considered it offensive and if I should stop using it 💀💀💀 Personally I just prefer native because Indian isn't technically accurate and can be confusing because there are like. Actually people from india? But its by no means offensive its just like "why". That being said, me and my family don't speak for everyone, so while I personally and my family dosent see issue with it, there are plenty of native people who dislike it and I can totally understand why, I just personally don't care that much.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 8 ай бұрын
Thank goodness this time you spelled indigenous right!
@godlesssnowshoe
@godlesssnowshoe 8 ай бұрын
@jeffreygao3956 oh no people make typos and are bad at spelling, what ever will you do 🙄
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 8 ай бұрын
@@godlesssnowshoe I'm forgiving. Stalin on the other hand, would not have been.
@neo122333
@neo122333 Жыл бұрын
"Eskimo" wasn't a term invented by Europeans, but the Cree, where it means "Raw Meat Ester" as a derogatory term.
@everettatwater2939
@everettatwater2939 Жыл бұрын
I use Eskimo and Inuit interchangeably, never knew Eskimo was a "derogatory term"
@revinhatol
@revinhatol Жыл бұрын
Worse, the Cree are Athabascan.
@yiannisroubos8846
@yiannisroubos8846 Жыл бұрын
French speaker here - its pronounced métis with a s at the end. I know it's confusing because most s on French words are silent but métis does NOT have a silent s.
@cogitoergosum9069
@cogitoergosum9069 Жыл бұрын
I was about to comment this myself 🤣
@xXxSkyViperxXx
@xXxSkyViperxXx Жыл бұрын
Amerindian is the best term cuz its the shortest that doesnt cause conflict with the original idea that "Indian" refers to and "native american" calls into question what exactly is a "native" since from another perspective, a native is someone born and raised in that place they are native to even though their ancestors were not and this can be said too about the supposed indigenous people because their ancestors have simply moved there for longer periods of time
@gamermapper
@gamermapper Жыл бұрын
You're wrong to say that no own uses "Eskimo" anymore. It's certainly not very popular, especially not in Canada, but in Alaska and Siberia a lot of Inuit and Yupik people still use it as a term for their shared identity. Also, anthropologists also use this term to talk about the shared cultural identity of these Arctic people, and it is indeed a colonial term, but no more so than "Amerindian".
@gamermapper
@gamermapper Жыл бұрын
If you want my personal opinion, I don't have a problem not using the term if it's offensive, but we'd need a replacement of this term, a new umbrella term for talking about the Inuit, Yupik and Aleut people. Because right now, people automatically replace "Eskimo" with "Inuit", and never say if they do include the Yupik and Aleut or not. Because of that, it's sometimes hard to find info about these groups. For example The Arctic yo-yo, the Copper Inuit, etc
@superbeltman6197
@superbeltman6197 Жыл бұрын
@@gamermapper Hmmm, replacement how about 'Western Arctic Native'. I think that sounds OK
@Mystcret
@Mystcret Жыл бұрын
@@superbeltman6197 imo that's just terrible multi-word monster term.
@freddiesimmons1394
@freddiesimmons1394 Жыл бұрын
This is precisely the problem with overcorrection. You will almost always find some examples of members inside of a group who use a word that others inside the group disagree with. I know I've heard of some black people disagree with one of either Black or African American. At some point, exonyms are useful if the listener is likely to understand what you mean.
@flux6162
@flux6162 Жыл бұрын
@@gamermapper, as a Yup'ik person, I don't like being called Inuit. It feels insulting to my people and theirs. Like we're taking it away from them as it is being forced on us. In Alaska were usually lumped together as Alaskan Native.
@randomperson01
@randomperson01 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@shreddie42
@shreddie42 Жыл бұрын
Excellent ferret b-roll over the credits 10/10 excellent long bois
@kucimaka8092
@kucimaka8092 Жыл бұрын
very handy guide thx a lot
@andrewwinslow9315
@andrewwinslow9315 Жыл бұрын
The best way to identify these people is to ask them "how should I call you".
@gyrfalcon0077
@gyrfalcon0077 Жыл бұрын
As he said in the video
@loopsauce199
@loopsauce199 Жыл бұрын
Well my friends call me Bob...
@kingdydy5688
@kingdydy5688 Жыл бұрын
He's back
@mikal
@mikal Жыл бұрын
"Indigenous" does not mean "lived there before European colonization". It means native to the area.
@patrickazzarella6729
@patrickazzarella6729 Жыл бұрын
Well currently it is as apparently "Sami are the only indigenous people of Europe" I dont know how you get recognition but there you go
@JMM33RanMA
@JMM33RanMA Жыл бұрын
If you look up "Beaver War," you will find that the Hodenosaunee came from the west and were intent on building an empire along the Appalachians. People who claim that the native people were all saints are just as wrong as those that call them all demons.
@BlastedRodent
@BlastedRodent Жыл бұрын
In a weirdly backwards way, it’s a very eurocentric definition, isn’t it? At the very least you’d think people like the ainu and taiwanese aboriginals should be considered indiginous, but by this definition they technically aren’t (since their lands were colonized by the japanese and han chinese respectively)
@gamermapper
@gamermapper Жыл бұрын
@@BlastedRodent the Amazigh too
@gamermapper
@gamermapper Жыл бұрын
@@patrickazzarella6729 Indigenous people is mostly used to talk about minority groups (who says that the Japanese or Tamils are indigenous people?), so of course the majority European people don't really need to be recognised as indigenous. Although it does seem very strange to me that the Basque aren't included but the Sámi are.
@t.j.fauser6369
@t.j.fauser6369 Жыл бұрын
You should do more short form stuff like this. Good to watch on breaks at work or in between other tasks.
@TheReaverOfDarkness
@TheReaverOfDarkness Жыл бұрын
primer before the class, I like it You're amazing, Teach. =]
@Squirrelanditsnutz
@Squirrelanditsnutz Жыл бұрын
Not all Eskimo are Inuit. For example, I’m Inupiaq, one of my former classmates were Yupik, and a former Tutor of mine was Unangan, just to name a few.
@gamermapper
@gamermapper Жыл бұрын
It's also very interesting that the Yupik also exist in Siberia even today, the only indigenous American group to still be there
@Squirrelanditsnutz
@Squirrelanditsnutz Жыл бұрын
@@gamermapper oh absolutely, but please don’t refer to them by the word that I referred to myself just now. Practically only we Inupiaqs don’t mind the word.
@DiogoSalazar1
@DiogoSalazar1 Жыл бұрын
Roughly one-third of Latin America is omitted by the comment at 2:50 as Brazil is not part of the Spanish America, so should have mentioned Portuguese-Indigenous as well.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
But then calling indigenous Americans American Indians or Indians gets me thinking of guys like Rajputs, Marathas, or Sikhs.
@midoriasakusa
@midoriasakusa Жыл бұрын
Its certainly an interesting choice between words when you're more familiar with the entire indian subcontinent of people
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
@@midoriasakusa Actually I like Rajputs and Iroquois equally; I just prefer to call the Rajputs Indians.
@BruceWayne-qe7bs
@BruceWayne-qe7bs Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreygao3956 But you have to ask their genetics specifically to know them.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
@@BruceWayne-qe7bs Are you just a guy in a bat costume?
@AJAYSINGH-ns1vv
@AJAYSINGH-ns1vv Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreygao3956 are you Indian. I am an Indian Rajput from Indian state of madhyapradesh.
@vorastrixaridarastrixiejir403
@vorastrixaridarastrixiejir403 Жыл бұрын
Just a small detail : while I certainly don't contradict the terms you used here, I just wanted to clarify that "Métis" is a french word that can actually be used to talk about any mixed race individual. I just wanted to clarify that for anyone that might get confused when speaking to a french person.
@katherineguevara4430
@katherineguevara4430 Жыл бұрын
Lovely video
@Lady_Omni
@Lady_Omni Жыл бұрын
Yoooo, as a Métis person, it feels great to be recognized for once!
@ammebee16
@ammebee16 9 ай бұрын
:) 🫶🏽
@HiddenHistoryinTexas
@HiddenHistoryinTexas 15 күн бұрын
This is awesome! Please tell me you’re still making vids. I see it’s been several months since you have. 😢
@JayReaction530
@JayReaction530 Жыл бұрын
Indio is an interesting word especially how it's used in the Spanish Caribbean Islands like the Dominican Republic
@shinlee3045
@shinlee3045 Жыл бұрын
In the Philippines, the term "indio" is a slur against natives.
@sonikku956
@sonikku956 Жыл бұрын
Often used by people who are at least 5% Native
@JayReaction530
@JayReaction530 Жыл бұрын
@@shinlee3045 in South America too
@mrarmaggedon31415926
@mrarmaggedon31415926 Жыл бұрын
you made a few points with Eskimos: While there are many Inuit in Alaska, the native peoples of Alaska (and far eastern Russia) include the Aleut people (who traditionally speak a language of the same name). While related to Eskimo, they are not the same group (hence in linguistics we have the Eskimo-Aleut language family). The Aleut people were never considered to be Eskimos (though from the perspective of many whites presumably there would not have been much difference so I presume they would have been labelled Eskimo in ignorance). Eskimo itself is a cover term for the Inuit and Yupik peoples collectively, although as the Yupik are a much smaller group, many have just accepted being referred to as Inuit, even though they are two distinct groups (which further subdivide into languages and peoples). You're right in that none of these three groups identify with the term Eskimo (although we still use it in academia because Eskimo as a grouping is still meaningful), but the word Eskimo itself is often misrepresented. There is a commonly repeated myth that it's a slur meaning raw fish eaters or things of this nature, which is untrue. The exact origin is unknown, but it is most likely to be an English corruption of a French corruption of an Innu (Montagnais) exonym translating to "ties/laces a snowshoe". The raw fish eating is a tentative etymology linked to Cree, but there is no evidence for this derivation.
@BerryTheBnnuy
@BerryTheBnnuy Жыл бұрын
As an American Indian, I don't hear many others saying "Native American" unless they live off-reservation. That tends to happen just because "Indian" because it's viewed as non-PC by a lot of whites, for some reason... While I am by no means conservative (I'm liberal af, really) I tend to refer to "the white man's burden for the modern generation" because it mostly involves white people getting offended for non-white people who aren't offended, and occasionally even telling those non-white people that they should be offended... If anything should be politically incorrect, it's unilaterally dictating to other cultures what should and should not be offensive, based on the values of one's own culture.
@jamesbourgeois1357
@jamesbourgeois1357 Жыл бұрын
You know I just checked if you made any new videos. 😆
@rhythmandblues_alibi
@rhythmandblues_alibi Жыл бұрын
When I took a unit on American Indian history at uni, I used the term "Amerindian" in my major essay to save on word count 😅😬😬
@WilliamHostman
@WilliamHostman Жыл бұрын
You need to check your terms... The collective used in Alaska is "Alaska Native" - and the Alaska Federation of Natives isn't pushing for a change. The King Islanders, Inupiaq and Yupic still (as recently as two years ago) still use Eskimo, and generally get annoyed (sometimes to anger) by "American Indian." They also do not use and will usually firmly correct people about using the term "Tribe" - they don't have tribes. They are, and have been since before Russian colonization, village based, despite seasonal migration. The Aleut are also not tribal, subcultural-identity by island... which generally also equates to village. The Athabaskan, Tligntit, Tsimshian, Haida, and a couple others prefer their terms to American Indian by far, again, sometimes to anger. Only the Metlakatla were officially recognized with a reservation until 1974 - hence the need for the 1974 Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act - and the Metlakatla are the only group with a reservation in Alaska. BIA oversees some elements of ANCSA. The Metlakatla have a reservation, are notoriously isolationist. Why do I know this? Teaching for 15 years in Anchorage, Alaska. "American Indian" is a reminder that they didn't get citizenship by birth until the mid 20th C. The AFN openly criticizes the Anthropological community forcing the terms "tribe", "nation", and collective term "American Indian"...
@SidheKnight
@SidheKnight Жыл бұрын
Here in Argentina we also use the terms "indigenous people" and "aboriginals". I guess we have that in common with Canada.
@dallasshumaker6148
@dallasshumaker6148 Жыл бұрын
That was a cool short video.
@trevorlambert4226
@trevorlambert4226 Жыл бұрын
"...just ask. No one will ever get mad at you, or make fun of you." That's a pretty big promise for you to make.
@josecarlosmoreno9731
@josecarlosmoreno9731 Жыл бұрын
Normal people won't get mad, anyone who is "political" will. Kind of how most Latinos hate the term Latinx and only the woke minority of Latinos tries to promote or enforce its use. Hell, most Latinos don't even consider themselves Latino but instead Mexican, Colombian, Chilean, etc, oftentimes going further into regional identities. American / Anglophone culture, especially liberals, strongly erases real diversity in favor of fake diversity in order to racialize everyone and be able to use identity as a political weapon. The internet usually also gives an extremely skewed view of others given the minority loudest and most obsessive voices get heard over that of the majority normal people.
@rompis.a
@rompis.a Жыл бұрын
"Just ask." Well, that's actually a relief.
@des_antilles
@des_antilles Жыл бұрын
In the eastern Caribbean where there are still amerindians, we refer to them as Kalinago (Amerindian Islanders) and kalina peoples (amerindians from the mainland of south America). There's a push away from referring to them as Caribs, which is a derogatory colonial term
@rocksandsocks7
@rocksandsocks7 Жыл бұрын
As a settler Canadian, I've only ever seen the term "amerindians" used in French language stuff. And it spelt "amerindiens". I think Canadian French is slowly switching to "autochtones" though.
@ephraimboateng5239
@ephraimboateng5239 Жыл бұрын
As someone from Montreal, i can vouch for this. No one calls them Indian or American indian, the usual term is Amerindien, but its true that Autochtone is more and more used. Personaly, i would feel weird calling a Native as "indian" because to me, that like calling Cuban people Japanese. Its totaly false. I immagine the term came from the US but im not sure
@jamesgoines4635
@jamesgoines4635 Жыл бұрын
Waiting on an hour long video.
@sp0ck1p
@sp0ck1p Жыл бұрын
The Rimworld-ian KB really took me by surprise
@husseinrose4883
@husseinrose4883 Жыл бұрын
Wake up babe, new knowing better video dropped.
@LogicGated
@LogicGated Жыл бұрын
Just ask is great advice tbh
@TJCampbell78
@TJCampbell78 Жыл бұрын
I love how you, rightly, put down Prager U in your videos yet they always are the advertisement on your videos 😂😂😂
@knudsandbknielsen1612
@knudsandbknielsen1612 Жыл бұрын
Depends how you ask..
@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive
@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive Жыл бұрын
How about Denisovan?
@t.r.1442
@t.r.1442 Жыл бұрын
What about the Tainos in Puerto Rico?
@jacobballard7671
@jacobballard7671 Жыл бұрын
LETS GO KB
@sominboy2757
@sominboy2757 Жыл бұрын
Babe wake up, KB uploaded
@Jacob-yg7lz
@Jacob-yg7lz Жыл бұрын
One thing you forgot to go into were Latin America's indigenous people. I never knew the Maya still existed until last year
@programmer437
@programmer437 Жыл бұрын
I spoke to a Cherokee man who was not too fond of the word "Native American", because it felt like he was having a name forced on him by Amerigo Vespucci. He preferred to just be called Cherokee.
@waytakaq
@waytakaq Жыл бұрын
West South America is Andean people it includes people from amazon region as well as they share blood line, Quechuas, Aymaras, Mochicas, Chachapoyas, Chankas, Wankas, Shaurs, Mapuches, puquinas, urus, some guarrani people, wari, pujllas, champas, etc.
@bugfighter5949
@bugfighter5949 Жыл бұрын
2:32 the word eskimo means "raw fish eater" and it was a name given to them by southern indians. Idk if colonial is exactly what I'd call it. In Quebec we usually refer to these people as "Indians". When we want to talk about people from India, we say "Indian Indians". We call people from France "France French" and from England "England English"
@Quintinohthree
@Quintinohthree Жыл бұрын
It's colonial in that colonizers applied an exonym to the Inuit. The fact that that exonym originates with other peoples indigenous to the Americas is immaterial to the question.
@bugfighter5949
@bugfighter5949 Жыл бұрын
@@Quintinohthree ayt
@mezcaomezcal4724
@mezcaomezcal4724 Жыл бұрын
Wonder if this means we will be getting new videos again
@HmmBearGrr
@HmmBearGrr Жыл бұрын
You just got a new video
@Realunmaker
@Realunmaker Жыл бұрын
I was expecting a 40 minute video about this and I got comfy in bed I had to come back to choose another video after such a short time :( This can be very long and interesting well maybe not, I'm a mixed latino from south america so maybe it would be interesting to see how they classify race here over there, maybe it's not that interesting to anyone else.
@Narlaw1199
@Narlaw1199 Жыл бұрын
Huh, métis in french refers to anyone whose parents are of two different skin colour, with the term slowly including parents from just two different origins. It feels weird to see that term attributed to a specific group.
@cogitoergosum9069
@cogitoergosum9069 Жыл бұрын
Same. Maybe it's different in Québec, but in France _métis_ is just an adjective like any other
@kormagogthedestroyer
@kormagogthedestroyer Жыл бұрын
Oh my god he remembered his youtube password
@absoul112
@absoul112 Жыл бұрын
Who would’ve thought asking people what to say would be the best way to figure it out?
@jorge6207
@jorge6207 Жыл бұрын
Yes, why have many perspectives when you can have only one.
@cldtcts
@cldtcts Жыл бұрын
Being from the Caribbean we are very familiar with the term Amerindian. We all have to learn about it in every history class progressing through high school. With that knowledge it never dawned on me that they were part of an even larger ancestral group. That's interesting and kind of changes my perspective on the development of the western hemisphere on a whole. Colonialism is a helluva drug.
@cldtcts
@cldtcts Жыл бұрын
Incidentally throughout the years though younger history students were introduced to terms like Tainos and Kalinagos to distinguish between the 2 dominant groups in the Caribbean. They used to be called Caribs and Arawaks distinguished by their degrees of resistance to colonizers.
@GrubbyZebra
@GrubbyZebra Жыл бұрын
Just to point out, there are several Alogonquin tribes that still have descendants living today that are neither federally nor state recognised.
@itacom2199
@itacom2199 Жыл бұрын
I just listened to a song by DJ Shub and KB publishes a video about native americans. Can't believe it.
@remenir97
@remenir97 Жыл бұрын
No long video?
@AethelwulfBretwalda
@AethelwulfBretwalda Жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna go with the much simpler Indigenously Aboriginal Native American Indians, thank you very much.
@Zarsla
@Zarsla Жыл бұрын
There is no episode, waiting for the nebula drop.
@Zarsla
@Zarsla Жыл бұрын
It got uploaded.
@Deveron4
@Deveron4 Жыл бұрын
It's weird that this video isn't on Nebula.
@I_report_scammers_spammers
@I_report_scammers_spammers Жыл бұрын
How on earth is that ferret not absolutely bouncing off the wall?
@dtaylor4200
@dtaylor4200 Жыл бұрын
What’s the difference between a tribe and a band?
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