Sublimating Glass Cans in a Press AND an Oven!

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INDUSTRIAL fringe

INDUSTRIAL fringe

Күн бұрын

Hey everybody, and welcome! Today we’re going to sublimate a 16 ounce glass ‘Libbey’ can in a press and in a convection oven, and we’re going to create a quick template for not only the design, but also for an inner decorative liner. I’ve also included both templates here in the description below.
I’m covering a LOT of information, so here’s a timeline of the video. Feel free to jump to any section you’d like to see!
0:00 Intro
1:15 Alibaba purchase recap
3:00 Dump group thoughts
4:56 Designers
6:48 Sizing the glass can
10:24 Creating a template
17:52 Cutting out the design
20:55 Wrapping a glass can
23:32 Pressing a glass can in a tumbler press
24:45 Baking a glass can in the oven
26:29 Glass can results and comparisons
36:03 Clear glass can presentation
38:18 Creating a insert template
39:08 Conclusion
40:01 Outtakes
I’m using some amazing designs, and I want to share the designers with you, because they’re awesome! I’m also including a link to where I purchased my glass cans. It’s my go-to supplier for tumblers and other sublimation blanks!
Here’s the links to these awesome designers!
Mya Daily-Haddix, Nurse Ratched Designs
“Nurse Ratched Designs” Facebook Group: groups/nurse...
Nurse Ratched Designs Etsy Page: etsy.me/3ywpcUR
Melissa Miller, Tumblers With Melissa: linktr.ee/tumblerswithmelissa
Michelle (Vale) Koszegi, Michelle Raye Designs: linktr.ee/mkoszegi
If you’re looking for some additional unique designs, be sure to check out my digital design website. www.industrialfringedesigns.com/
Here’s the link to my Alibaba supplier. (I HIGHLY recommend her!): www.locustsub.com/?service=Ch...
And please check out our Facebook group, groups/55947.... If you enjoy sublimation, just answer a couple of quick questions and join. You do need to answer the questions, and you must agree to the group rules, but I promise, they’re not difficult! We’d love to have you!
Glass Can png template (Google link good through December, 2022): drive.google.com/file/d/12VoF...
Glass can png Insert Template (Google link good through December, 2022): drive.google.com/file/d/1VEf_...
I hope you enjoy, and if this video helped you, please give it a thumbs up! And also, be sure to subscribe for more upcoming fun and informative videos!
Here are the links to the products I used in this video:
Peel N’ Stick Ruler Tape: amzn.to/36HZxOV
20mm x 33m, 108 feet (larger) heat tape: amzn.to/33CHvvZ
13mm x 33m, 108 feet heat tape: amzn.to/3eh4LBU
10mm x 33m, 108 feet (narrower) heat tape: amzn.to/3edULJC
Desktop tape dispenser: amzn.to/3qfs2tG
24” metal ruler: amzn.to/3G9371v
Folding utility knife: amzn.to/3fjkUr8
Olaf 12” x 18” self-healing cutting mat: amzn.to/3JbZ0n4
Oven thermometer ($5.99): amzn.to/3BkTuv7
Heat Press Nation Signature Series Mug Press w/Tumbler attachment: shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=113707...

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@RVincents
@RVincents Жыл бұрын
You restore my faith in humanity with the speach about paying for artwork. Yes! I do all original designs.. But I do use Clipart and other elements that I pay for and make sure I have commercial license for. YESSSSS also on the sticky tape measure. It's fantastic! You are generous teacher.. I appreciate all you share with us
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! And thanks for watching!
@simsadie14
@simsadie14 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh I’m so happy I found your channel. I rarely see anyone else talking about the big picture with sourcing, let alone sharing what exactly they did. I’m also happy to support creatives and pay a bit rather than having files everywhere I’m not sure if I can legally use. Thanks so much for sharing your process in detail! Can’t wait to check out your other content 💜
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks so much for watching!
@jennifercarvelli6882
@jennifercarvelli6882 Жыл бұрын
By far the best video. Thank you for taking your time to really share your knowledge.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
You just made my day! Thank you so much! And thanks for watching!
@jasn98
@jasn98 Жыл бұрын
Love this video.. I am getting ready to start my first Glass Can and you answered all my questions and then some!! Thank you very much for explaining everything so well!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Good luck. And thanks for watching!
@bree6353
@bree6353 Жыл бұрын
I am SO happy that I found your channel! I actually watched this with my phone so that I could type up notes on my tablet 😂 but I know I’ll be coming back to watch this, it’s extremely helpful! I appreciate how detailed you are, and I loved seeing the comparisons! and thank you for sharing your supplies + resources!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you enjoyed! Thanks so much for watching!
@gsgdesigns9554
@gsgdesigns9554 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing up the dump groups!!! You had me at that point!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Hate, hate, hate them. There are so many great designers out there, and if people aren’t careful, they’ll stop designing them. All for a couple of bucks. Thanks so much for watching!
@owlbecrafty
@owlbecrafty Жыл бұрын
This is by far the best video I have watched on YT regarding sublimating glass cans….. awesome 👏🏼
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! That makes me so happy!!! And thanks for watching!
@donnajohnson6403
@donnajohnson6403 11 ай бұрын
I have watched many videos today. Yours rocked. You gave me the exact info I needed quickly and directly. Thank you so much for your hard work!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 11 ай бұрын
I’m so glad! Thanks so much for watching!
@michellegillie4817
@michellegillie4817 2 жыл бұрын
Omg I’m so glad I found you!!! This is the absolute best tutorial I’ve watched in my hundred hours of research! Thank you so much!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
That makes me SO happy! Thank you! And thanks for watching!
@jamievanwagoner3754
@jamievanwagoner3754 Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@myadaily-haddix2851
@myadaily-haddix2851 2 жыл бұрын
What a great job! You did what I didn't have the patience to do. Can't wait to spread the word. Kudos on a job well done! - Mya- Nurse Ratched
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
You’re too kind! (And I actually had to buy some patience about halfway thru this thing!) Thank YOU for such awesome designs!
@tammya9770
@tammya9770 Жыл бұрын
I gave this a try tonight! I also have the Heat Press Nation 7 in 1 Tumbler Press. Your time and temp was spot on! 385 for 200 sec, rotated because my design was a full wrap, then pressed for another 200 seconds. Turned out beautiful! Thank you for your instructions and for testing what works and what doesn’t and sharing that with us! I appreciate you!!!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
So excited to hear! Thanks for watching!
@alexisrose1217
@alexisrose1217 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this extremely helpful and in depth video. I had been having issues with all glass and this really helped me so very much. Even just to understand the trial and error of it all. Also bought a pinch perfect at your recommendation as well. Keep up the great content.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Alexis! And thanks for watching!
@jerethagardner5122
@jerethagardner5122 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos! Thank you for ALL the info!!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad! Thank you for watching!
@petyzeatlow5952
@petyzeatlow5952 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos, thank you for sharing your knowledge and the links.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! And thanks for watching!
@normazaharioudakis115
@normazaharioudakis115 Жыл бұрын
Love your designs and all your tips thank ou so much
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Thank YOU!
@nahnisjourney1406
@nahnisjourney1406 11 ай бұрын
I always save your videos so I can practice your wonderful techniques. Turns out, I have seen a lot of people pressing the edges of their mugs and tumblers in the press for extra time. Tops and bottoms more towards the center of the press to get perfect sublimation. I’m glad I didn’t toss this in the trash! LOL!!! But I did get a air fryer oven and thermometer, and learned to sublimate in It. So now, I can use two methods. Thanks so much!!!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 11 ай бұрын
That’s fantastic! Two methods are always better than one! (Or in my case, sometimes twice the headache! But that’s how we learn!) Thanks so much for watching!
@mandicarey9070
@mandicarey9070 Жыл бұрын
Roy OMG I cannot believe that while looking for these types of videos I stumbled across you!!!! First of all....HI! Second, thanks for a GREAT video. I'm learning sublimation right now and this was by far the most helpful video I've seen!!! Hope you're well!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Mandi, I’m so glad you stumbled across my channel! Thanks for the compliment, and thank you for watching!
@user-ju7gu5ux8u
@user-ju7gu5ux8u Жыл бұрын
Just what I needed to know and how to do it! Thanks!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad! Thanks for watching!
@sondravaxmonsky7047
@sondravaxmonsky7047 6 ай бұрын
Wow thank you for the tip for the tape ruler. Had no idea they had that. It’s going to be a game changer. Happy new years 🎉
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 6 ай бұрын
Oh, yes, I love that thing. It’s one of the few pieces I always know where it’s located! Whenever I get a new substrate, it’s the first thing that comes out! Thanks for watching!
@zizimcreations
@zizimcreations 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!! We have those blanks too! Love your works!🥰
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@JustSubbinAroundByMelissa
@JustSubbinAroundByMelissa 2 жыл бұрын
Love it!!!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! You are amazing!
@monicachavez4040
@monicachavez4040 2 жыл бұрын
Great information! Thank you!!!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! And thanks for watching!
@donnadavis6936
@donnadavis6936 Жыл бұрын
Love your humor 🤪 and thank you for all you do. Donna from Louisiana new here
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Donna from Louisiana! And thanks for watching!
@lunachautin3943
@lunachautin3943 2 ай бұрын
Learning so much. Thank you.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 ай бұрын
You’re quite welcome! Thanks for watching!
@508diva
@508diva 2 жыл бұрын
You sir need a plethora of subscribers just saying always come in clutch ! Ty!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
HA! Thanks so much!!!
@rachell9410
@rachell9410 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. I am new to this and the first few I made I had trouble with my blacks coming out black. They were more brown. I have looked at everything possible and kind of worked out it had to do with the temp/time/pressure but with so many different options going around online it’s hard to find one. I’m going to go ahead and try your recommendations and I’m very excited to try it out 😊 thank you again. 🙏
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 8 ай бұрын
You’re quite welcome! Yes, there are a lot of different ways to get to the perfect result, it’s all about the combinations! Best of luck, and thanks for watching!
@latifahkurniadevani5187
@latifahkurniadevani5187 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this great video. I do research and this video help me so much. Thank you
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 11 ай бұрын
I’m so glad it helped!
@ExclusivelyCreated4U
@ExclusivelyCreated4U 2 жыл бұрын
So I just thought about this last week… I ordered a digital tape measure like what you use to measure your bicep waist etc… I got the one on Amazon with no gap. Love it!!!!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
That’s fantastic! And thanks for watching!
@lindafeldmanczt3728
@lindafeldmanczt3728 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea for inserts
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
@sylviebradley4951
@sylviebradley4951 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very informative video. I’m a new comer to your channel (from Montreal, Quebec). I am waiting for an order of the clear glass beer cans (only ordered 2 to try). I only have a convection oven and for my tumblers I use shrink wrap as well as silicone bracelets at top and bottom. I was surprised to see that I wouldn’t need to use all that for the beer cans. But as you say, we have to test it with our own equipment. Thank you again for being so thorough. 🌸
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it! Go over and join the Facebook group and if/when you decide to get a bulk order (50 or more), I have an Alibaba contact with a Canadian warehouse. I’m not sure what her prices are in Canada, but her price breaks down to $3.50 per can in the US, which is considerably less than a lot of other places. Thanks so much for watching!
@michellegillie4817
@michellegillie4817 2 жыл бұрын
Do we have to use shrink wrap on tumblers in the oven? Also can we do multiple tumblers in the oven or just one at a time?
@viancalina7410
@viancalina7410 Жыл бұрын
You are the first ever that I have ever heard actually tell where they get their jars. Everyone seems to gatekeep that info. I had to search high and low to figure that out.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
That’s so sad! We should all be here to help one another! We share here! Thanks so much for watching!
@g35fastcoupe
@g35fastcoupe Жыл бұрын
Nice work, Woof!!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Woof!!!
@Tiffanyinwilderness
@Tiffanyinwilderness 2 жыл бұрын
Great and helpful video
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@sam0dean1
@sam0dean1 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
@meandmyheatpress6551
@meandmyheatpress6551 Жыл бұрын
I love this file!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@karenwoodall6132
@karenwoodall6132 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I’m struggling so bad with glass tumblers. Trying to make Christmas presents and I’m wasting so many tumblers because of time and pressure issues. I’m going to try your 385 for 240 seconds
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Good luck! I’ve seen different people use all kinds of times and temps. I hope you find yours! Thanks for watching!
@thiswa2
@thiswa2 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! I will be trying out sublimation for the first time pretty soon! I ordered my cups through Chloe as well! I have seen others using shrink wrap sleeves, is that necessary? or can I just make it without it
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
If I’m using stainless steel tumblers, I prefer shrink wrap in an oven. If you’re using a press, there’s never a need to use shrink wrap. Thanks for watching!
@user-mc8yn3bj4i
@user-mc8yn3bj4i Жыл бұрын
OK this is one of the best sub videos I've seen. Absolutely fantastic 👏 keep them coming. One question, do you wipe them in anyway before subbing? Mine seem to have a ton of lint on them and also after do you was them?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! That made my day! I do wipe them quickly with a clean cotton rag. After they have cooled, I wipe them down with a damp cotton rag. Thanks so much for watching!
@iwannasub
@iwannasub Жыл бұрын
Hello, and thank you for all your help on KZfaq. My husband and I have been watching your sublimation quite a lot, and it has been a great learning tool for us. By far our favorite youtuber for sublimation. I am having an issue with my clear 16 oz glass cans. The issue is that after sublimating on 1 side, a simple flower and name, I am getting a what looks like a film from the paper and sometimes tape on the jar. And it is not coming off the jar. I have tried light to medium to heavy pressure. I have tried temps from 360, 370, 375, 385, 400 F. I have tried times from 60 seconds to 240 seconds with 30 second increments. Although the design only takes up one side, I have been wrapping the sub paper all the way around so the tape is only adhered to the sub paper and not the jar itself. We have also tried cutting out the design and taping to the jar with as least paper as possible. Both ways we still had butcher paper wrapped all the way around the jar. We are using ASub 125G paper. Any insight or direction to fix this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you :)
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Tracy, for one-sided glass can designs I’ve settled on 385 degrees for 200 seconds, no rotation, medium pressure. I’ve noticed how glass cans are so different for so many people, and it’s quite puzzling! I put my one-sided design on a piece of sub paper that just covers the circumference of the can and tape the overlap. If the design is close to the top or bottom curve, I tape the top and/or bottom edge. If the design isn’t close, I don’t worry about taping that. I hope this helps! And thanks to you and your husband for watching!
@iwannasub
@iwannasub Жыл бұрын
thank you :)
@crystalgomez7856
@crystalgomez7856 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this AMAZING video!! Definitely gong to come in handy for all the Christmas cups I want to make! What convection oven do you have? Does it really matter if I get a different one? Thank you again!!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
I have the Hamilton Beach XL Rotisserie Convection Oven, but any oven with the convection feature will work. I suggest you find one tall enough for a tumbler to stand up…but it’s not necessary. A lot of people lay theirs down. For that matter, a lot of people just use toaster ovens and air fryers! I know nothing about either of those, but I know people use them! (If you use a toaster oven, I know you need to rotate the tumbler every so often.) Thanks for watching!
@wickedstang2003
@wickedstang2003 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this video! Been having some issues with glass tumblers first batch Turned out great at 360 for 90 secs rotate 180 and another 90 but this week they were faded so can't wait to try 385 for 200... do you have a time and temp for regular 20oz gloss and matte stainless tumblers?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Robbie! Check this video out for my time and temp for stainless steel tumblers! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7Whq6t2v820p58.html And thanks for watching!
@mandmperez4951
@mandmperez4951 Жыл бұрын
Hello. I love your video. A lot of great info to a beginner like myself. I didn’t catch it if you did talk about this but does it matter when you take the tape off? Do you remove it right away or is it best to wait until glass can cools off? Does it even matter? Thanks for any tips.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I’m so glad I can help you out! Great question! Some people peel cold and some peel hot. I do a combination of the two. I take my tape off as soon as it comes out of the press, but then I give it about 2-1/2 minutes to cool before removing the paper (the time it takes another tumbler to press). Thanks for the question, and thanks for watching!
@ArtforLoveDesigns
@ArtforLoveDesigns Жыл бұрын
I have been struggling to find the right time/temp for my new mug press and this video was a life saver! My glass cans come out perfect at 385 degrees for 240 seconds, but I have noticed that when I press multiple mugs in a row they start to get progressively duller. Do you have any tips for combating this?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Hi! I know with my press it gets looser as I do more tumblers (or glass cans). For tumblers, I use light pressure, but I found that with the glass cans, I needed medium pressure. Check to see if you pressure is loosening up as you press your second, third and so on cans. Thanks for watching!
@Kimberlymmj
@Kimberlymmj Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this amazing video. Do you not use blowback paper in the convection oven?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
I don’t. For tumblers, I use shrink wrap, but for glass cans, I just tape the design to the can! Thanks for watching!
@jennyauthement4986
@jennyauthement4986 2 жыл бұрын
This was a really great video and very helpful. I am trying to decide if I want to get a convection oven or tumbler press. Can you do more than one in the oven?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Jenny! I absolutely love my tumbler press and don’t know what I’d do without it. That said, if I had to get only one, I probably would start with a convection oven. Actually, that is what I did. They’re MUCH cheaper (you could probably find a crazy-cheap one at a thrift store or Goodwill), you can sub just about anything in them, things you can’t sub in a press (flasks, substrates with curves, etc.), and they’re pretty consistent. If you can find a really cheap convection oven, you can start subbing things now, and save up for a good tumbler press. And I recommend spending a few more dollars to get a good one! Thanks so much for watching!
@michellegillie4817
@michellegillie4817 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I would have seen this video before purchasing my mini press. I have this exact oven but did not know I could use it for this! I purchased the Realkant mug press and it may be going back.
@amyrustad2269
@amyrustad2269 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to this process. Did you use the shrink wraps around the glass in the oven, or just tape them? I'm planning to make some for a holiday party and want to make sure I have all needed supplies before starting. Thanks in advance!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Amy, no I didn’t use shrink wrap for the glass cans. I ended up just aping them and it worked well. I was afraid the shrink wrap would stick to the glass. Thanks for watching, and good luck!
@sarahkemble2304
@sarahkemble2304 Жыл бұрын
Great information, when you are sublimating in your convection over, do you need to do one glass at a time or can you do more at a time?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
You can absolutely do more. I’ve only done one at a time, but I see lots of people doing 2 or 3. I would maybe add a minute or so if you’re doing 2. (That’s one reason I never added a second. I didn’t want to figure out a new time with the additional tumbler!) Thanks for watching!
@ravenandhercharacters7664
@ravenandhercharacters7664 Жыл бұрын
You me tioned there was a sublmating solution put on regular glass, whats that called? Is it the same spray used to sub on cotton? Love your videos.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 11 ай бұрын
I haven’t used any, but there is a spray for cloth and another for hard substrates. I would be Leary of using it for anything that people use to drink in, but that’s just me. Thanks so much for watching!
@eastonbartels2655
@eastonbartels2655 Жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from watching your videos. Thank you! Can you share how you go about shipping these? Mailer or box? I’m struggling with over spending on shipping. Thank you for the great videos!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
I ship by putting the box in a mailer with bubble wrap. I keep it under 16 ounces and us PirateShip for shipping! Thanks for watching!
@taranagelhout
@taranagelhout 3 ай бұрын
Hi. I am using a press and an oven. I have not had issues with the 16oz glitter beer can glasses before. I have been using an oven this whole time. Today I unboxed my go2craft vertical press. The font is faded, the colors are faded, the glass is gritty and the paper is sticking. Same batch of glasses, work fine in the oven. What is wrong?
@DiabloHVAC
@DiabloHVAC Жыл бұрын
Your videos are fantastic, they answer a lot of questions, I'm just getting started in this. My question now is. Do you use the same heating element for the glass cans that is used for the skinny tumblers, or is it a larger size heating element. I'm trying to figure out what tumbler heat press to get. Start off with a cheaper priced one or jump all in with more expensive one.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I swear by my Heat Press Nation mug press with a tumbler attachment. I’ve pressed thousands of tumblers with it! I use the tumbler attachment for my 15, 20 & 30 ounce tumblers as well as my glass cans and stainless steel Mason jar tumblers (although I can barely get the stainless steel Mason jars in there!). I use the mug press attachment for 11 & 15 oz coffee mugs. Whatever you do, I’d stay away from eBay, Alibaba or Amazon presses, as they have a higher failure rate. If you’re not sure about subbing tumblers, I’d avoid a press for now and get a convection oven from a thrift store to start with. But if you decide to go the route of a press from hpn, I’d greatly appreciate you used my affiliate link. It won’t cost you a penny more, but it may give me a couple of dollars to put toward this channel! shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1137072&u=3064363&m=77504&urllink=&afftrack= Thanks for watching!
@DiabloHVAC
@DiabloHVAC Жыл бұрын
@@industrialfringe953 Thank you.
@mrgrinch61
@mrgrinch61 Жыл бұрын
that tape is aewsome
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t sub without it! Thanks for watching!
@CT_TKB
@CT_TKB Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of using a template to show what it could look like with liquid inside. Thanks for sharing this tip!! Where do you purchase the straws from?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Hi, Christine, the straws came with the glass cans. Thanks for watching!
@CT_TKB
@CT_TKB Жыл бұрын
@@industrialfringe953 have you ever purchased frosted cups from this supplier and then next order the sublimations aren't as bright? I am thinking I got a bad batch, I do believe they all come from the same warehouses here in the US so it may be a hit and miss. Thank you for being so thorough on your videos! I LOVE THAT and thank you for all the hours of work you put in.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Christine, I’ve only purchased 2 cases of 50 each, one case of clear and one case of frosted. They were all the same and of good quality. I’ve also found consistency with regular tumblers from this supplier. I believe the glass cans are a bit trickier and aren’t as forgiving as stainless steel substrates. Thank you for your kind words!
@boomgamingph363
@boomgamingph363 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing these 🥰
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@user-mx5of4cw3p
@user-mx5of4cw3p 7 ай бұрын
so do you have to put a coating on the glass for the sublimation ink to stick?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 7 ай бұрын
I buy sublimation-ready glass, so they already have a polymer coating. But if you don’t buy sub-ready glass, you would need to add something, as it won’t work on regular glass.
@Tiffanyinwilderness
@Tiffanyinwilderness 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think that you could use the infusible ink on those cups with sublimation Libby cups in a heat press on that time?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not familiar with using infusible inks, but it’s my understanding they pretty much do the same thing as sublimation ink. If that’s the case, I would certainly start with that time and temp, then adjust as needed.
@Tiffanyinwilderness
@Tiffanyinwilderness 2 жыл бұрын
@@industrialfringe953 Thank you so much for replying. I will definitely try that out
@leepeters682
@leepeters682 Жыл бұрын
Do you ever get bleeding of ink on your tumblers especially at the seems? If so what is the problem and perhaps a solution?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
It could be moisture. You can try to warm up your tumbler for a few seconds first. Good luck! And thanks for watching!
@steveferguson1232
@steveferguson1232 Жыл бұрын
I’m new to sublimation. I bought my wife the Sawgrass 500 for Christmas and am trying to learn as much. How difficult is it to find the right settings? Oh and I just subscribed to your channel
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Steve, welcome to the wonderful, world of sublimation! I’m not family with it, but I know the Sawgrass is a wonderful machine! You did the exact right thing to join the group. There are a few group members with Sawgrasses, so I’m sure you’ll be able to get plenty to info. Thanks for watching, and thanks for subscribing!
@rachellegodin3804
@rachellegodin3804 Жыл бұрын
I tend to see tape marks on the one sided? wondering if its my tape ( i have the brown ones)
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
I swear by my Amazon tape, but these frosted glass cans are a bit trickier. If you have issues, try wrapping the entire can and use tape just on the paper to hold it around the can. Thanks for watching!
@angelawhiteday8945
@angelawhiteday8945 Жыл бұрын
Why do all the clear have white behind design and the one frosted tumbler does not?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Angela! If you’re talking about the white paper insert, I added it to the inside of the clear tumblers so you can see the design better. (It’s easier than adding liquid!) The frosted ones don’t need the paper, as you can more easily see the designs (without liquid in them).
@cruisingwiththedoziercrewc3282
@cruisingwiththedoziercrewc3282 Жыл бұрын
Did you sublimate on the clear glass and the frosted glaas
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
I did. As a reminder, they are sublimation ready cans. Thanks for watching!
@melissad2303
@melissad2303 Жыл бұрын
Why did you not shrink wrap the cans you did in the oven to create pressure on them?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Great question. I do use shrink wrap when I’m subbing tumblers in an oven, but I didn’t want to deal with trying to get the shrink wrap off of the glass. I was afraid the shrink wrap would stick. I especially didn’t want to deal with shrink wrap on a frosted glass! So I did it with just taping. Thanks for watching!
@thiswa2
@thiswa2 Жыл бұрын
Can you put more than one cup in the oven? Or just one at a time?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
You absolutely can. I don’t, just because I have a routine where I’m prepping or finishing others while I’m waiting! You may need to add a few more seconds to your time. Thanks for watching!
@connieoliver5025
@connieoliver5025 8 ай бұрын
How do you determine the time frame to sub the design
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 8 ай бұрын
I used trial and error to come up with the perfect time and temperature for all colors. Let’s just say I messed up a few before I got it down! In all seriousness, I did take 10 tumblers and set aside right after I started with the plan to destroy them as I tested the different times and temperatures. I only used a third of each tumbler at a time to test, giving me 3 tries in each tumbler, so it only took 3 or 4 tumblers to get there!
@deborahdejesus4546
@deborahdejesus4546 Жыл бұрын
Which is the best sublimation paper and ink for glass beer can cups. Please advise because I have ruined about 5 of them already frustration
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
You know, the glass cans are a bit tricky. I’ve seen some people use short times and lower temps and others use long times and high temps. I think it’s less about the ink and paper and more about the time, temp and pressure. I use Cosmos Ink and a variety of paper, mostly TexPrint.
@eastonbartels2655
@eastonbartels2655 Жыл бұрын
I get amazing results on my frosted tumblers, but when I just tried the clear glass, the paper left a residue on my glass can. I dont want to waste any more blanks. Any idea what I’m doing wrong?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I would have thought it would be the other way around. I’m guessing you were able to wash the residue off? Maybe too much pressure or the glass wasn’t cured enough from the factory? Thanks for watching, and good luck!
@user-pp2xq3rg7j
@user-pp2xq3rg7j Жыл бұрын
Any idea why i have tape marks every time i use the press?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 11 ай бұрын
My first thought would be the tape. Some tape leaves marks (and that’s the tape we want to stay away from!). I use this tape and have had excellent results, even when I tape it directly to the substrate surface. amzn.to/3eh4LBU Best of luck, and thanks for watching!
@mixedchick105
@mixedchick105 Жыл бұрын
So is the link for locust sub a good one to purchase from? I saw you listed the alibaba link in other videos
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I now use the locustsub link. You can also join the Facebook group (which I recommend) to see sales and new products. It’s “RTS Sublimation Items by Chloe Peng”
@mixedchick105
@mixedchick105 Жыл бұрын
@@industrialfringe953 Ty! New subbie btw:)
@nightgames994
@nightgames994 11 ай бұрын
is it necessary a convection oven to sublimate? can i use a conventional one?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 11 ай бұрын
A convection is better, as it rotates the air and give consistent heat throughout the interior of the oven. While I haven’t done so, I’m sure a regular toaster oven would work just fine, but you’d need to rotate your tumbler/mug during the cook. And remember, never use an oven you cook food in! The sub gases are not good for you! (I’d look around at some local thrift markets to see if you can find one!) Thanks for watching!
@katherineozuna9432
@katherineozuna9432 Жыл бұрын
What heat press did you use? Your link just goes to their website. It did not link which one you are using... Thank you !!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
So sorry, I got the Signature Series Mug And Tumbler Press. Mine isn’t automated, but the new ones are!
@rachelmusgrave4804
@rachelmusgrave4804 Жыл бұрын
I am completely defeated on these glass tumblers. I have tried everything I could going down to your settings I’ve adjusted it and I can’t get it right. even down to the pressure I have the same 718 pin and I don’t know what else is going on. When I press the regular tumblers, it’s perfect but these glass Libby cops are something else and I’m trying to do a whole rap and it burns it or doesn’t cook it enough 😢
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Yes! These things can be very frustrating. I know some people press them for longer periods with higher temperature, and other people press them at lower temperatures and lower times, and all of them get great results. I ended up finding out what worked for me, but I’m sure it will be different for everyone based on all the different threads I’ve read, and how so many different people press so differently with amazing results. I hope you figure it out! Thanks for watching!
@DestinyBlossom
@DestinyBlossom Жыл бұрын
Same! If you find any solution please share because my designs come out either too dull with little color or completely burned. I’ve messed up a few already 😢
@sommerhetrick9725
@sommerhetrick9725 2 жыл бұрын
where do I find the artists you recommended for files?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Sommer, take a look in description for links to the artists I’m referring to. And I may not have included my link. www.georgiamaes.com/digital-designs.html Thanks so much for watching!
@mercedesramirez5515
@mercedesramirez5515 10 ай бұрын
I tried to sublimate on a glass can and nothing ever showed on the glass? Can someone tell me why? Or what im doing wrong? I made the temp higher cause I thought that would work but it didn’t. I need help.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 10 ай бұрын
Was it sublimatable glass? All glass that’s gonna be subbed needs to be coated with a special coating to take the sublimation. I’m guessing that’s the issue.
@melissajohnson9035
@melissajohnson9035 2 жыл бұрын
How do you fix the ones that don’t turn out :)
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
Funny you should ask! The next video (that I’m currently working on as we speak) is about re-baking bad tumblers and re-subbing with new designs! Should be out in about a week! Thanks for asking, and thanks for watching!
@christalstaten4385
@christalstaten4385 2 жыл бұрын
@@industrialfringe953 I don't see the bad tumbler video.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct! I apologize, I had some challenges and had to release the video about getting closer to the handle of q5 ounce coffee mugs. The rebake is 3/4 done and will be out next! I promise!
@kristinastichter8531
@kristinastichter8531 Жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness! I’m totally with you. I can duplicate a craft all day long but I cannot create a design for the life of me. I will pay for one with no problem at all. They deserve that small fee. I love Etsy and FB for that. I haven’t even heard of dump groups. Thanks for sharing those sellers. I have already asked to join those groups as I love quality designs. Thanks for the video.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Yes, these are fantastic designers! Thank you for watching!
@CorchadoV
@CorchadoV Жыл бұрын
How do you know it is tight enough on the cup? My cups are still a tad faded and I think it is due to lack of pressure.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
For tumblers, I have super light pressure. But for the glass cans, I use medium pressure, enough that it’s somewhat tight, but not enough for me to worry about cracking it. Thanks for watching!
@CorchadoV
@CorchadoV Жыл бұрын
@INDUSTRIAL fringe Thank you! Ha yeah was worried about making sure I didn't break it.
@Me-sv7cg
@Me-sv7cg Жыл бұрын
Does the glass can have to be subliminal ? Or can it be regular glass can?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Me, it’s me! Yes, glass has to have a sublimation coating on it before it will accept sublimation. Regular glass will not work. Thanks for watching!
@harleymoore2049
@harleymoore2049 Жыл бұрын
What temp and time do you set your oven at??
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Harley! I set my oven to about 385-390, knowing that it will drop to about 365-370 within a minute of inserting a tumbler, so I guess my temp answer is 365-370! (Once the oven drops to that temp, it maintains it for as many tumblers as I press.) My time is 4-1/2 minutes. Since I have a convection oven, I don’t rotate, although some people do. Thanks for watching!
@kimkilgore4172
@kimkilgore4172 Жыл бұрын
Ðo you use the same images you can use on regular tumblers ? Mine aren't coming out vibrant? I've been buying glass can png. Is your pressure tight, tight? I love everything you teach. I've been following and learning from you for a while. You are far from my favorite to go to person.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Hey! Some images are interchangeable, but I mostly buy or create designs specifically for glass cans. The weird thing about glass cans is, I’ve seen great results from VERY different times and temps! I’m not sure why some people get better results with shorter times and temps, and other get great results with longer times and temps. I use a pretty heavy amount of pressure. Obviously not enough to break the glass, but enough to hold it really snug in the press. And I’m so glad you’re enjoying the channel! Thanks so much for watching!
@kimkilgore4172
@kimkilgore4172 Жыл бұрын
Well I just did 3 at 200 secs 285 my best results so far. Thanks again so much!!!!
@mkealaagerard4213
@mkealaagerard4213 Жыл бұрын
HPN: One sided: 385 for 240 second Double sided: 385 for 200 second flip 180 degrees for another 200 second
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
That’s what has worked for me, although I have reduced the double-sided to 150 x 2.
@celym6884
@celym6884 Жыл бұрын
Which method do u prefer ?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Great question! Normally, I love the press leaps and bounds over the oven, and I’ll still probably go the the press, as it’s pretty much all I use (except when making videos), but the difference wasn’t enough to need to use the press. I’m just so used to using it, that’s probably where I’ll gravitate toward.
@jamiejohnson9520
@jamiejohnson9520 Жыл бұрын
I have some of the almost exact same glasses I got from Alibaba. I found a USA warehouse with free shipping. (35 glasses for 99$) Glasses came within 2 weeks.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
That’s fantastic! Thanks for watching!
@judybarrett2697
@judybarrett2697 Жыл бұрын
Where did you find those?
@dianeelrod8232
@dianeelrod8232 Жыл бұрын
Can I put them in a regular oven?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
No, Diane, sublimation is the process of releasing gases. You never want to use an oven you would use for food. If you don’t want to invest in a small convection w, try a thrift shop or local Salvation Army
@CDeez-bh6sg
@CDeez-bh6sg Жыл бұрын
Any chance they have 20oz? I tried looking but no luck.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
I just looked, and saw they have the 25oz frosted glass. Thanks for watching!
@queenofthepack-nr9mw
@queenofthepack-nr9mw Жыл бұрын
What is the name of the paper you use to print images
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
I did this video on the different types of sublimation paper. I default to TexPrint! Thanks for watching!
@grantlesueur
@grantlesueur 9 ай бұрын
What version of photoshop are you using?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 9 ай бұрын
When I was making this video, I was using Photoshop Elements, but I lost it in a computer ‘incident,’ so now I’m using Photoshop. Photoshop Elements does almost everything I need done when designing! Thanks for watching!
@nurulayu0108
@nurulayu0108 Жыл бұрын
Is glass type cup cannot be baked on the oven?because i saw you only use the frosted one for test.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
I just used frosted ones, but if it’s a sublimation glass can, clear will work just fine! I don’t know why I didn’t use a clear one in the oven! Thanks for watching!
@nurulayu0108
@nurulayu0108 Жыл бұрын
@@industrialfringe953 one more question. Is this cup must be for sublimation type only? So a regular cup cannot?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
That’s correct, a regular cup will not sublimate. You must have cups with a sublimation coating.
@nurulayu0108
@nurulayu0108 Жыл бұрын
@@industrialfringe953 ohh.. Thank you for the replies.. It is hard to find sublimation glass cup here in my country and to get it from overseas gonna be so expensive for just one glass. Need to find harder then 😅
@fresaaguilaraa
@fresaaguilaraa Жыл бұрын
Can I use my kitchen oven?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
No! Sublimation is the transition of ink directly from a solid phase to a gas phase. Because gases are released, you should never use an oven you’ve sublimated in for food. I suggest stopping by a Goodwill, Salvation Army, or thrift store to see if you can pick one up dirt cheap. A convection oven is preferable, as you won’t need to rotate the tumbler during the bake, but I’m told a regular oven will work as long as you rotate the tumbler a few times during the bake. I hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
@Chet_Vanderlinden
@Chet_Vanderlinden Жыл бұрын
Theres no prep for glass...it just sticks? What sublimation paper do you use
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Chet. These glasses have been coated with a sublimation coating. Regular glass won’t work. And I’ve found several sublimation papers that I like. Check out this video for a breakdown. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j6uZdaejx5q3o2w.html Spoiler alert, I found myself going back to TexPrint! Thanks for watching!
@carolgaste
@carolgaste Жыл бұрын
My ink isn’t getting on the glass. I tried to make it tight and your temperature. They come back blank? Has this happen to you?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
That hasn’t happened to me. My first question, are you using sublimation glass. Regular glass won’t work.
@carolgaste
@carolgaste Жыл бұрын
Oh that might be it. I don’t know if it’s sublimation glass. I didn’t know there was a difference. 😧
@DestinyBlossom
@DestinyBlossom Жыл бұрын
@@carolgaste sublimation glasses can be found online or in crafting stores, they have a special coating on top that’s meant for sublimation. Also make sure you’re using sublimation ink as well as sublimation paper.
@KL-je4ye
@KL-je4ye Жыл бұрын
I just tried 400 degrees for 6 minutes and it didnt work at all. using a convection oven
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Do you have an internal oven thermometer? Join the Facebook group and we can troubleshoot! (Don’t forget to answer the questions!)
@rondadranter
@rondadranter Жыл бұрын
Where do you get your shrink wrap for your glass cans? You said you baked them at 375 degrees, but when I sublimate anything with a temperature over 350 degrees my shrink wrap melts. Hmmmm.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
I don’t use shrink wrap for glass cans, only stainless steel tumblers when baking them in an oven. For glass cans in the oven, I just tape, making sure only a small amount of the heat tape is touching the can. Thanks for watching!
@rondadranter
@rondadranter Жыл бұрын
I didn't know you could do that. I thought you had to always use shrink wrap. Anything else I can skip the shrink wrap? Thanks for responding!
@lisa1ramaglia2
@lisa1ramaglia2 2 жыл бұрын
Libbey is a glass manufacturer in Illinois.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are correct! Except, they’re actually based out of Toledo, Ohio (and originally from Cambridge, Massachusetts). Right or wrong (probably wrong), lots of people in the sublimation world, me included, are referring to these as Libbey (style) glass cans. Because of that, I opted to include that in the description. Make sense? Anyhoo, thanks so much for watching!
@lisa1ramaglia2
@lisa1ramaglia2 2 жыл бұрын
@@industrialfringe953 I have a case of the can glasses, in a Libbey’s box, that I purchased from a restaurant supply. They’ve been wonderful for etching projects. Thank you for the video on sublimating Libbey-type blanks. I received one in a kit that I was nervous about using.
@deserietorrez5523
@deserietorrez5523 Жыл бұрын
Is Chloe still with Alibaba?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
Hey! I believe I answered this in another question, but please let me know if you have any additional questions! Thanks!
@ivanbob9990
@ivanbob9990 2 жыл бұрын
my sublimation does not go to wine bottle, why is that ?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
It could be one of several things. My first question would be, is it a sublimation wine bottle?
@ivanbob9990
@ivanbob9990 2 жыл бұрын
@@industrialfringe953 no its not, whats the differents between sublimation bottles and just a regular glas bottle,, they both are glas ?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
You need whatever you’re sublimating to be sublimation ready. Basically, that means it’s been coated with a material that takes sublimation ink. The glass cans I’m subbing in the video were purchased from a sublimation distributor. Unfortunately, you can’t sub on just any glass.
@peacefulblessing
@peacefulblessing 10 ай бұрын
Hi is this supplier still available.?
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 10 ай бұрын
Yes, this is the link to use! (I still swear by them, and just received 4 cases yesterday that I ordered Sunday!) www.locustsub.com/?parent_user_id=14051924&
@im4pets86
@im4pets86 Жыл бұрын
could you please take the paper out of the glass tumblers so we can see how they turned out. You're lucky I didn't put what I really wanted to but my husband told me to behave lol
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
No. I can’t. The video is done! (I added the paper so you COULD see how they turned out!) And now that you mention it, I do feel kinda lucky. Thanks for watching.
@nicoleshumway9838
@nicoleshumway9838 8 ай бұрын
Can you sublimate a CLEAR glass can in the oven? I have had no success. And the glass is sublimation ready. I am not a fan of the press I have.
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 7 ай бұрын
If it’s sublimation glass, you certainly can!
@nicoleshumway9838
@nicoleshumway9838 7 ай бұрын
@industrialfringe953 it is, but I have had no success in a press or oven. I was using cheaper paper and am wondering if it's that? I haven't tried my other paper which is better. I have tried increasing pressure in the press and temperatures. I have increased time and burnt the paper and 2 glasses left flakes and tape marks, and the color still wasn't brilliant. I will try my better paper, but I am hesitant because I have already ruined 3 very expensive sublimation Globes.
@nicoleshumway9838
@nicoleshumway9838 7 ай бұрын
Sorry 4.. 4 glasses.
@brentnsuecline3136
@brentnsuecline3136 Жыл бұрын
Use Cathy zhao she sales 25 beer glass For 65.00 !!
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 Жыл бұрын
I think I’ll stick with my supplier, as she’s consistently great, reliable, and has the best prices I’ve seen. At the end of the day, it’s all about who you feel comfortable with, so if that’s Cathy for you, I’d stick with her! Thanks for watching!
@sylviamacdonald7625
@sylviamacdonald7625 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, First let me thank you for your truly informative and easy to follow tutorial. I too am from Canada 🇨🇦 ( Nova Scotia.).and would like the name of your Canadian distributor. Thank you again in advance. Sylvia Summers-MacDonald
@industrialfringe953
@industrialfringe953 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Sylvia, thanks so much! My Alibaba supplier is Sichuan Locusts Network Technology, Inc. Co., and my rep is Chloe Peng. The best way to contract her is through her Facebook Group, RTS Sublimation Items by Chloe Peng. You can message her once you’ve joined. And remember, ALWAYS pay through the Alibaba website or Alibaba app! (If you have any challenges, join my Facebook group and we can direct you there. My group is in the description.) Thanks so much for watching!
@sylviamacdonald6682
@sylviamacdonald6682 2 жыл бұрын
@@industrialfringe953 Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and expertise. I live in a relatively rural area
@sylviamacdonald6682
@sylviamacdonald6682 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry internet problem lol. As I was saying being in a rural setting is challenging especially trying to find suppliers. I will definitely contact Ms. Penn via her FB group ( as well as your own ) and should I encounter any issues I will ask in the group. Thank you very much ! Sylvia Summers MacDonald
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