Motorsport games are at it again! This time it's IndyCar Article: insider-gaming.com/indycar-te... Mike on twitter: / mikestrawmedia
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@IceKimi3216 ай бұрын
"But of course they also do hold the license of the Indycar as well. Well, who knows when that's going to be coming out"! - Ollie's quote from 8 days ago. That aged well...
@TheNuno1906 ай бұрын
I think the quote was more sarcastic than anything else. Because everyone could see what was gonna happen
@IceKimi3216 ай бұрын
@@TheNuno190 I don't say it in a bad way. I'm just fanboy of GTP/GTE(3) classes and Ollie just happened to be driving in those. I don't have any knowledge whats going on in the sim racing world, neither what the companies are doing. =)
@tswany116 ай бұрын
IndyCar finally realized they weren't getting an exclusive game, they were only getting DLC on rf2
@retromaniaco_br74226 ай бұрын
Indycar needs to open the license to everyone. To be in games like iRacing, Assetto Corsa, Gran Turismo, Forza or even in Grid. I don't think a dedicated Indycar game will be good, only if come in a single package with Indy NXN, US 2000 and other Indycar junior series together (also, would be nice with IMSA too).
@glitchinthematrix93066 ай бұрын
Cant wait to see it in iracing properly done :)
@willlive68456 ай бұрын
I’d say with the success of the imsa esport series that I would expect there to be an Indy car esports series also.
@tratus256 ай бұрын
I was honestly looking forward to an IndyCar game but if it comes back to iRacing at least we know it will be properly done
@xPAINEx_Twitch6 ай бұрын
MSG losing the licence is great news, it's been one of the worst things to happen to sim racing for a while.
@UFPUFP6 ай бұрын
There never was a need for a seperate Indy Car game - maybe in USA but in europe don't know any guy who is interested in driving Indy Cars. So fully agree with that step
@cmax8896 ай бұрын
I really hope iracing picks it up. I’ve been wanting indycar. Dallara doesn’t have much attendance
@ECOGreenGT6 ай бұрын
This brings joy to my American brain.
@olliecole71636 ай бұрын
That intro clip is so accurate 😭😭
@MK19MODIII6 ай бұрын
patiently gonna wait for the first hosted session to crop up titled "Motorsports Games 500 - Indianapolis Motor Speedway - Dallara IR18"
@DriftNick6 ай бұрын
I think it's about time the management got a pay rise and at least 15% of the employees fired, the normal thing to do when your game dev company does dumb crap for so long and doesn't have record profits year after year.
@chrisnorrell74896 ай бұрын
They lost #16.7 million this year so far and have another $600,000 of debt with nearly no cash on hand
@BrotakuDon6 ай бұрын
They lost Indy and BTCC within weeks of eachother. They're done.
@RonaldRegain6 ай бұрын
So glad I never spend a dime into motorsport games. Seemed suspect to me from the get go.
@BrotakuDon6 ай бұрын
@@RonaldRegain I bought RFactor 2 and barely touched it. Was fooling around since they started a beta for an online system and very nearly made a purchase...glad I hadn't.
@MrMaldervich6 ай бұрын
A matter of time before they lose evrything
@lazeroth896 ай бұрын
This is great for iRacing, they'll get the license at a handsome discount since this backfired on Indycar
@drivernumber42626 ай бұрын
It's worth noting that Motorsport Games owes more $$$ to IndyCar and BTCC than they currently have on hand as of their investor's call last week. IndyCar may have directly forced MSGM into bankruptcy.
@joshuak43726 ай бұрын
Kiss and make up now. No hard feelings. iRacing #1 can’t wait to run official indycar sessions again.
@ash62486 ай бұрын
After the last couple weeks. I have absolutely no hope left for Le Mans Ultimate.
@TheGreatIndoors19796 ай бұрын
Back to Indycar Racing II once again.
@-siberian-6 ай бұрын
The mister gilbert part is on point on how 90% of simracers feel!
@HighDefBNG6 ай бұрын
I thought of you immediately when saw this today. I really hope it comes back to iRacing.
@LilTwix816 ай бұрын
I mean i saw this coming from a mile away like if Nascar backed out I’m sure they saw the red flags 😂😂😂 But I hope iracing takes it back and we can have an offical Indy 500 again 🙏
@philipkalin19286 ай бұрын
Sooooo does that mean, Indy is going to be back in Iracing?! 😍😍😍
@TheOriginalMacstarx6 ай бұрын
Next Week hopefully we are reading “Le Mans terminates ties with Motorsport Games” we can all hope!!!
@fingers686 ай бұрын
Any blame, issues or grevence a consumer "feels". Point towards the owners issuing the licence to the highest bidder.
@robcrisdale6 ай бұрын
i cant see Indycar going fully back to Iracing - they seem hell bent on Stand Alone concept and think they will be able to cash in on success of F1 series. Except Indycar wont be as popular for a start. The best outcome would be at least alow Iracing to run IP rights in respect of naming cars and events Indycar for a start and they can choose whoever for console. Yes . Iracing could do console, but they are fairly full with Nascar now taken over , World of Outlaws etc.
@michaelprice68406 ай бұрын
pedal cam back fam.nice
@Superfluous.6 ай бұрын
Well, tbf, you did call it that Indycar would be next on the list. And who's actually surprised that it happened? Nobody 😂
@Justin_Bock6 ай бұрын
BEAUTIFUL OPENING!!!
@Azeria6 ай бұрын
NASCAR LICENCE SOLD BTCC LICENCE REVOKED INDYCAR LICENCE REVOKED STUDIO THAT DEVELOPED KARTKRAFT SHUTTERED WEC GAME DELAYED MSG IN SHAMBLES
@coyy91066 ай бұрын
iRacing Indy 500 2024 here we come
@togwilson6 ай бұрын
Doubt it
@martin-hall-northern-soul6 ай бұрын
As long as we don't end up in a situation where there's only one viable simulation. Monopolies are bad for consumers.
@twixu88116 ай бұрын
we might see some more stuff in iracing in term of indycar maybe
@POP7QWIZ6 ай бұрын
I assume that after the NASCAR game is made by Monster games/iRacing they might make the Indycar game. Monster games could be the console exclusive arm of iRacing and releasing Nascar, Indycar, and World of Outlaws games moving forward.
@fervunk11436 ай бұрын
Deserved. for a series desperately wanting more fans and attention, indycar sure shot themselves in the foot moving away from iracing so harshly.
@0xy1d10t6 ай бұрын
Well this opened up old wounds. I absolutely loved the indy 500. So much so I was considering taking leave that week to get in as many races as possible. There is no getting Indy 2023 back. Additionally there is no guarantee that its coming back in 2024. Relationships have soured and Indycar might think that the rights are more attractive with an exclusive license. So while MSG may have pushed for it. I get the feeling iRacing isnt getting it back. Glad to see a toxic company like MSG losing its lunch. Sad that my lunch seemed to have been included in that.
@makoaki90716 ай бұрын
Thisi s great news!
@Tudkno6 ай бұрын
If this has shown us anything, it's that exclusivity is not a good thing. Yes Indycar should go back to iRacing but it should not be solely done by them. Let Forza and Gran Turismo have the licence too perhaps? It sounds just like the BTCC deal where they wanted a console game and sure iRacing could probably facilitate that with Monster Games who did World of Outlaws.
@phillupson85616 ай бұрын
I guess the exclusive license thing is down to greed, screwing one company for such high fees that it must be worth more to the license holder than if they granted non-exclusive licenses. However, it would strike me as a better option to grant non-exclusive licenses to whoever wants them, then host e-sports with prizes on the service that provides the best implementation, income for the license holders plus a good reason to drive innovation and quality across the whole simracing world.
@warrendevine74596 ай бұрын
Tbh, don’t care, but thanks for the update and info, Ollie!🤙🏼
@ethanbarford6 ай бұрын
If it’s back to iracing. Will there be a new car added? Or will the ir18 be used??
@AidanMillward6 ай бұрын
One thing to remember is that the Indycar agreement with MSG wasn’t exclusive. It was only exclusive for a standalone indycar game and any esports associated with the series. Iracing could have had the license at the same time to use the cars and tracks but for whatever reason they didn’t. Whether that was costs, Penske, or whatever we will never know- But after iracing sent all those “stop shitting on our tyre model” notices to the indycar drivers it looks like there was a reason Indycar went to MSG or someone else instead. If iracing wants it back, they’re going to have to go to Indycar and pay up.
@marcellomaio6 ай бұрын
It was most certainly an exclusive license. Reiza had also developed an IndyCar model but had to make it a fantasy model just before release, due to the exclusive licensing deal with MSG. It had nothing to do with IndyCar drivers complaining about the tyre model, for example: The Australian V8 supercar drivers were also making comments about the tyre model during their sim racing championship in 2020/21, but V8 supercars are still going strong on iRacing.
@AidanMillward6 ай бұрын
@@marcellomaio The entire license agreement was available to read online. Literally the first three words of the agreement in the main body are "A non-exclusive"
@marcellomaio6 ай бұрын
@@AidanMillward And, in the very same document, "D. Licensor and Licensee intend to form an exclusive relationship for development of video games to be the official video games of the INDYCAR SERIES." If it really was a "non-exclusive" agreement as you claim, why did Reiza also feel they needed to change a car they had already built to be a fantasy?
@AidanMillward6 ай бұрын
@@marcellomaio Read what it says again. That section is only to do with a standalone Indycar game. Nothing about having the cars in another sim or game because rfactor2 got them in 2021. As for AMS2, that's for them to announce because licensing is a very complex and opaque thing to do. It could have been too much for Reiza to pay, it could have come with too many bits and pieces they had to fulfill but couldn't, could be anything. When rFactor2 licensed the BTCC cars it took them forever to get the Cupra because they were being really funny with the license. Same for Toyota in the new WRC game because they haven't yet allowed the Corolla and Celica in.
@MrMatStace6 ай бұрын
Having the licenses pulled couldn't be happening to a more deserving company than MSG.
@SylvainRichard6 ай бұрын
Don't really care about Indycar tbh but more about LMU. It's another bad sign (one of many in 2023) for LMU, the future of the company and works in progress.
@elmurcis16 ай бұрын
Shame for all impact to simracers but same time - feels great when greed gets justice!
@NobbyScott6 ай бұрын
I hope Lemon Ultimate falls flat on its face too, If it ever does make it to release then sim racers should boycott it
@baldmar50836 ай бұрын
Happy and not surprised, bring it back to iracing!!
@tamaslichtenberger85296 ай бұрын
sorry for caps, but YEEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
@AleksandrRudiak6 ай бұрын
Hopefully WEC is next
@fervunk11436 ай бұрын
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO
@chrisnorrell74896 ай бұрын
I wrote MSG and told them to close up and sell off their agreements to stop screwing the community that makes them possible. They are in debt to another company for $600,000 and don't have the funds to pay it. And I wouldn't expect Lemans Ultimate to release either. Supposed to come out next month and is delayed till February. I'm expecting It to be delayed indefinitely
@Alstevens836 ай бұрын
Well if LMU arrives and is awful (remember their NASCAR game) then I would see the ACO pulling there license as well. Also with Iracing getting LMDH cars and rain soon Iracing would be ideal for a return for WEC. Well we can wish knowing MSG they will cling on to that license until the baylifts show up the door.
@dylanhorton86 ай бұрын
Even if msg go under LMU will most likely still happen as studio 397 will just find another publisher
@jerryncf15536 ай бұрын
Crazy but, predictable stuff
@k4_macey8386 ай бұрын
Give ACC makes a try I think they will make a great game and with the new le man game
@gitrekt-gudson6 ай бұрын
Good. Not a fan of Motorsport Games. I do agree that licensing needs to stop... sell rights, not licenses, or at least not exclusive.
@WebbersRacing6 ай бұрын
Indycar need to jump back to iRacing immediately!
@wolfe19706 ай бұрын
I hope iracing doesn't get the license, that would mean it wont ever come to console, and some of us prefer to play on consoles for our ow reasons
@imanny996 ай бұрын
I think the issue is "exclusive license". Give licenses to everyone and pick whoever has the best implementation to host your esport event. Exclusive license never helped anyone.
@gsheist6 ай бұрын
This is what happens when a sleazy company uses their capital to shit on their potential customers. Couldn't be happier to see their continuing downfall!
@markstuart84016 ай бұрын
Karma. 😂
@saffaboy20076 ай бұрын
Who would buy Le Mans Ultimate? 100% if released it will be broken (although it won't be released) due to haste and desperation. There will be no support and updates because money. LOL what a fiasco.
@King_Ears6 ай бұрын
The WEC game will probably follow suit soon then
@cmad-gl7ie6 ай бұрын
They ruined the Nascar game it’s better the Indy game will get someone anyone else will be better for the game.
@usleadershipareliars6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 iracing should tell them to pound sand after they told iracing to pound sand.
@guapitok46 ай бұрын
The license should not go to IRacing with it's predatory subscription base model. On top of having to buy individual cars and tracks. It should go to a company that can deliver on a standalone full fledged game.
we all know this le mans game is going to be utter trash. indy car prob got one look at what they where working on and ran for the hills...
@itherealykb13176 ай бұрын
Motorsport games needs to just disappear, it's like the cancer of sim racing!!!
@marijn17s6 ай бұрын
Hope MSG goes bankrupt and never returns
@willmind42966 ай бұрын
Sry but what do you actually know really? Saying they not done anything? The game can be ready for 80-90% but they didn’t meet the deadline. This can be an investment of millions of dollars and thousands of ours of programming gone down the drain. This video sounds a lot like iRacing propaganda with you sitting there with that T-shirt bashing a company without any facts about what the actual reality is.
@thijsazerty6926 ай бұрын
0% surprised. Been looking at their stock value dropping to current level and their so called releases/plans. This company is a disaster...
@viddiot6 ай бұрын
Perectly happy with my ir18 and i-racing track and AI content. So I don't feel anything sorry. LOL.