Ineos Grenadier Takes On The Rocky Mountains!

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@hedydd2
@hedydd2 9 ай бұрын
They quote 0-62mph because what they actually measured was 0-100kph. Same thing.
@michalikpiotr1
@michalikpiotr1 6 ай бұрын
But some children are ignorant.
@johnhanson6039
@johnhanson6039 9 ай бұрын
0-62 measure is because the vehicle is British/European so base is KM and 62 MPH is 100 KM/H
@MrEnglischjules
@MrEnglischjules 9 ай бұрын
us Brits use MPH........
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 9 ай бұрын
​@@MrEnglischjules We use both, depending on where you are, if you're in England, then it's more likely to be just MPH though. If you're by the coast, then you might see more of a mix.
@originalkk882
@originalkk882 9 ай бұрын
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks What??!! I live on the South Coast. No-one uses kph. Apart from continental visitors of course.
@tonywoodward3404
@tonywoodward3404 9 ай бұрын
The UK is fairly inconsistent with measurement units
@matthewkeith8605
@matthewkeith8605 9 ай бұрын
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Trucks are in kph but otherwise no. Are you referring to occasional signs being in kph and mph in the vicinity of some ports and the chunnel?
@johndc7446
@johndc7446 9 ай бұрын
I always wondered why Land Rover didnt opt to preserve the classic front design of the car and just modernize it. Ineos Grenadier proved that it is possible and I prefer this design over the New Land Rover's front designs. I think it was a missed opportunity.
@alexsystems2001
@alexsystems2001 9 ай бұрын
I spec’d one out and fitted very similar to the one you tested and that thing was around $90,000 before taxes. When they were first flirting with us on the Grenadier it was supposed to be affordable. It was supposed to be from what they were hinting at about $30,000 LESS than what they brought it to market for. It’s hard to convey it in text but the numbers just simply don’t add up.
@Gazziza29
@Gazziza29 9 ай бұрын
When did they announce it? Like 5-7 years ago? Have you been living under a rock since then? Do you not recall a global pandemic? Do you not recognize record high inflation? Have you not been paying attention to the entire housing and car market? Everything costs significantly more than what it did 5 years ago. Hello McFly…
@jimmy-buffett
@jimmy-buffett 9 ай бұрын
"Affordable" compared to a G-Wagon.
@banebanebane
@banebanebane 9 ай бұрын
With broncos and jeep wranglers coming in at 50-60k with lockers, 73k for a grenadier with lockers isn’t out of pocket. Also, Grenadier allows you to pick basically any option you want without gating them behind a trim level. They did a lot of things right but obviously it is expensive.
@dadventuretv2538
@dadventuretv2538 9 ай бұрын
The f’d up the pricing royally. But they’re British so I guess that makes sense. 😂
@Cocky.Rooster
@Cocky.Rooster 9 ай бұрын
@@jimmy-buffett probably biggest problem is some Americans will glady pay the $100k just because people will think they're driving a G wagon. So many other, more comfortable, better driving, equally capable options. I don't see this being successful at that high price point.
@Amandla-Awethu
@Amandla-Awethu 9 ай бұрын
A mate of mine took delivery of his about a month ago. Loving it. We are organising a 4x4 day end November. Ineos, Rubicon, new Defender, old Defender, Toyota Land Cruiser 200. It’s going to be fun.
@DiecastNewb
@DiecastNewb 9 ай бұрын
Looks as if a Land Rover and a G-Wagon had a baby!! And I like it 😬
@ndafarachaitezvi1139
@ndafarachaitezvi1139 9 ай бұрын
Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
@chileshemubanga3594
@chileshemubanga3594 9 ай бұрын
Without doubt this is the very spiritual replacement for the past Land Rover defender!.,& I have no doubt it is more durable than the current one.
@WatchMeBURNFuel
@WatchMeBURNFuel 9 ай бұрын
I beg to differ. The old one is a gem. This one is complete trash. Look at overseas reviews.
@Ardventures
@Ardventures 8 ай бұрын
It’s made from a lot of different parts bins and doesn’t quite work, to low to heavy, poor steering, exposed steering damper, guards front and rear will stop it dead, RHD driving position is dreadful, who puts a BMW engine in a supposedly ROW vehicle, dreadful MPG, a 4wd De Lorean . New Defender is light years ahead.
@donrichter3523
@donrichter3523 6 ай бұрын
Bwahahaha!!! Good one about current Defender being light years ahead. Maybe in time spent at dealership getting repairs…….
@kevinlanuk89
@kevinlanuk89 9 ай бұрын
I'm number 68 in line out of CO Springs. Looking forward to driving mine off the lot.
@jakemaughan3818
@jakemaughan3818 9 ай бұрын
We 100% need an Ineos Grenadier vs Toyota Land Cruiser vs Toyota GX video when they are all released!!!
@Mac1Eleven
@Mac1Eleven 9 ай бұрын
Land Cruiser is battle tested and used in wars, there is no comparison
@jakemaughan3818
@jakemaughan3818 9 ай бұрын
@Mac1Eleven the new landcruiser is almost a direct comparison with the Grenadier. At least here in the states.
@anthonyjoe6442
@anthonyjoe6442 9 ай бұрын
​@@Mac1Eleven so was landrovers but lots of people complain about reliability Thow it's hard to old defender that hasn't dun over 300k
@mikefoster7085
@mikefoster7085 9 ай бұрын
It's already happening Grenadier v Landcruiser 300 v Defender v Nissan Y62. Search Robbert Pepper motoring journalist
@berjerk3425
@berjerk3425 9 ай бұрын
@@Mac1Eleven terrorists don't count.
@matthewprather7386
@matthewprather7386 9 ай бұрын
Nice job on the review. If I had a need for a serious off roader this might be on my list.
@Jtx_Tools
@Jtx_Tools 6 ай бұрын
The front end Looks like how the defender should look like
@buddzilla187
@buddzilla187 9 ай бұрын
I love the analog knobs. It's a great look. Like a chrome stereo from the 90s
@davidhillbrand2302
@davidhillbrand2302 9 ай бұрын
Sweet - need to see one in person!
@deldridg
@deldridg 8 ай бұрын
I've had my eyes on the Ineos for some time. Thank you for this review, it's reinforced my interest in some ways, flagged caution in others (mileage being one concern). It would be good to see it handling tougher terrain. Cheers from Sydney - Dave
@seahawk2409
@seahawk2409 9 ай бұрын
I am test driving an Ineos next week and have a reservation in.. This was very helpful
@mikes.4136
@mikes.4136 9 ай бұрын
Wow - I never saw the Grenadier before and I’m impressed. It looks very well appointed and the Land Roverish looks are cool. Love the three locking differentials!
@ronaldrrootiii6040
@ronaldrrootiii6040 9 ай бұрын
Well the middle one doesn't really count that just makes it actual four-wheel drive out of it's already all wheel drive so really I would just say it has two lockers and four-wheel drive
@zmotorpro
@zmotorpro 9 ай бұрын
Great review Alex! Awesome vehicle too. I may have to check one out!
@2nlove408
@2nlove408 9 ай бұрын
Red Nolan, very good review perspective on the Ineos. As a Wrangler and side by side owner you offer me valuable incites to the valued abilities of the Ineos. I am very tempted by this vehicle.
@elliottlee1050
@elliottlee1050 9 ай бұрын
Looking forward to ours! & our next adventure next year on the Pan-American hwy after the Northwest passage! &❤it's reviewed by our favourites😊😂
@Marks.Reviews
@Marks.Reviews 9 ай бұрын
Looking forward to when TFL off-road take this vehicle to be seriously off road tested.
@DuaneCaldwell
@DuaneCaldwell 9 ай бұрын
Nice video, Alex! Congrats to you and thanks to Chris and Red Noland for getting the early opportunity to put Colorado dirt under the wheels. I think the Grenadier looks like a great off-roader. Looks cool, and it seems very capable.
@yissibiiyte
@yissibiiyte 9 ай бұрын
This is the only vehicle I can think of besides the Wrangler that has a solid axle and diff lock on both the front and rear. That alone makes it great in my book Edit: I forgot about the Power Wagon and didn't specify I meant current vehicles
@fritty9927
@fritty9927 9 ай бұрын
80 series Land Cruiser had triple lockers.
@yissibiiyte
@yissibiiyte 9 ай бұрын
@@fritty9927 thought I didn't have to state the obvious, but I meant modern vehicles
@davidnorton5887
@davidnorton5887 9 ай бұрын
Suzuki Jimny has solid axles, but no lockers unfortunately.
@haydenf1353
@haydenf1353 9 ай бұрын
I want to say the Ram power wagon has them too.
@fritty9927
@fritty9927 9 ай бұрын
@@yissibiiyte from the other comments I guess you needed to say “currently “. 😄😄. It’s all good
@DABUAS69
@DABUAS69 7 ай бұрын
Great Video! Thank you!
@user-yr1gl3vy7p
@user-yr1gl3vy7p 9 ай бұрын
I was onboard 100 percent, wasn't happy with the new defender, and this was going to be the answer. Idk just kinda fell out of love with it. The engines, along with the price, changed, and i just lost my enthusiasm and went in a different direction. Its definitely cool, i hope they sell a ton of them and make Land Rover get back to their roots.
@John-nr6fs
@John-nr6fs 9 ай бұрын
WOW what a nice off-road video 👍
@CJ-rk5eg
@CJ-rk5eg 9 ай бұрын
The IG is British inspired, but German engineered by the same company that has built the G wagon for 40+ years, Magna Steyr. Other than the G wagon. I’m not familiar with any other vehicle that offers three locking differentials in the United States. Yes, the price is high, but if you compare it to loaded wranglers or broncos, it is possible to spend the same amount of money, which is a lot
@dadventuretv2538
@dadventuretv2538 9 ай бұрын
Actually its not even close to Wranglers and Broncos in price when similarly equipped. A 85- 90K Wrangler or Bronco, which is the cost of the one he was driving, gets you a LOT more stuff.
@CJ-rk5eg
@CJ-rk5eg 9 ай бұрын
@@dadventuretv2538 Yes, definitely trade offs are everywhere in these decisions. So you can get the 392 V8 in the Wrangler and the Bronco Raptor package, which are amazing offerings. Those models get you easily into the $70-$90k range of the IG. The trade off is that the IG has 3 lockers. Just one example when looking at power train comparisons.
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft 9 ай бұрын
@@dadventuretv2538 It does not get you more stuff for overland ranging. It is all about personal choice.
@oscarwinner2034
@oscarwinner2034 9 ай бұрын
It’s a “poor man’s” G Wagen?
@CJ-rk5eg
@CJ-rk5eg 9 ай бұрын
@@oscarwinner2034 could be !
@OutdorkRetail
@OutdorkRetail 6 ай бұрын
The Grenadier is evidence that constant "improve, improve, improve" makes people want to go back to basics and originals. Offroaders should be made to go offroad and get there, not have TV screens and other fancy stuff! We're a fan of the older, simpler 4x4s and never thought we'd ever want a new one, especially when Land Rover killed the OG Defender. But we'd 100% buy one of these!
@realrocktimusprime
@realrocktimusprime 9 ай бұрын
I love everything about this thing. Especially that it's not ONLY Electric. It is perfect. Except the price...Now if I could "afford" one I probably wouldn't make this gripe. But nothing new like this vehicle is reasonably priced. Regardless, I really hope Ineos does well here in the US.
@butchcassidy7010
@butchcassidy7010 9 ай бұрын
this is a greatest album
@spartanchirho
@spartanchirho 9 ай бұрын
I'm in LOVE!!! Bye bye Land Rover 😢if I could build my own truck this is what it would have been!
@myauctionaddictionestatesa7451
@myauctionaddictionestatesa7451 7 ай бұрын
Ordered one from Red Noland! Whooo hooo
@aggiewoodie
@aggiewoodie 9 ай бұрын
I test drove one at the Houston dealer, Mossy and then put in an order for a Trialmaster. Off-road it’s as capable of anything from Jeep but roomier and it feels like a tank- no loose anything, creaks…at $80-85K it’s a bit pricier than a fully loaded Rubicon X but also seems better put together.
@Luceq
@Luceq 9 ай бұрын
Ineos got all the basics right.
@bryanlorang417
@bryanlorang417 9 ай бұрын
Alex, nice work bro!
@tarapaul8212
@tarapaul8212 9 ай бұрын
Gorgeous. I would buy one.
@kelvinhill9874
@kelvinhill9874 9 ай бұрын
0-62mph times are just a conversion of the 0-100kmh time, which is what they actually measure in.
@davidnorton5887
@davidnorton5887 9 ай бұрын
They've done a good job making it seem rough and tough, mechanical, and analogue. In reality it has the same complex electronics and systems as every other vehicle.
@keithrushforth4019
@keithrushforth4019 9 ай бұрын
Compared to vehicles like the new Defender the electronics are very basic. The only "complex" electronics are things like engine management and ABS etc, stuff that all new vehicles have to have to pass safety and emission laws. Other than that everything else like the transfer case, diff locks and suspension are all mechanical.
@keithrushforth4019
@keithrushforth4019 9 ай бұрын
@@majnuprasadhola435 I've had a look at one and it's no more "luxury" or "complicated" than any other mid range new car. In fact even the high end Field master version is very basic when compared to a real luxury SUV like a Range Rover.
@taylorj959a
@taylorj959a 9 ай бұрын
really exciting new product.
@kingpin3919
@kingpin3919 9 ай бұрын
Great review
@Bornintheseat
@Bornintheseat 9 ай бұрын
Great video thanks
@sinepari9160
@sinepari9160 7 ай бұрын
The safari windows are cool. I use the freedom tops on my Jeep way more than dealing with removing everything. I'd like that body/interior on a wrangler rubicon suspension.
@marksharman8029
@marksharman8029 9 ай бұрын
Great information man, well done. Sub'd.
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@toobalicious
@toobalicious 9 ай бұрын
Cool vehicle - like you said, it's kind of like what the Land Rover Defender should have been. I'll be interested in seeing your towing test of your upcoming vehicle, and want to know if it requires premium fuel or not, fuel tank size, etc.
@ronaldrrootiii6040
@ronaldrrootiii6040 9 ай бұрын
I just didn't understand the attraction control turning off in off-road mode Because unless it's stability control you actually want brake traction control off-road it works amazing and eliminates the need for a locker most of the time some people would be going in and out of a locker when the missing link is quality traction control like Land Rover. I've seen videos of this thing tested in Australia with off-road traction control working perfectly so I'm not sure maybe he meant to say stability control
@AndrewAMartin
@AndrewAMartin 8 ай бұрын
@@ronaldrrootiii6040 Sometimes you want to allow some wheel spin off road, which traction control prevents, and is not going to be dangerous at typical off road speeds. A decent driver with a little bit of experience is always better than a TC system off road... @toobalicious -- From what I read somewhere, the founder of INEOS was disappointed with the new Defender, so he set up this venture to build what he wanted the Defender to be...
@myauctionaddictionestatesa7451
@myauctionaddictionestatesa7451 7 ай бұрын
@@ronaldrrootiii6040 Traction control is really for street use, and gravel roads. Once the trail gets going you want 4x4 and lockers.
@Speedird
@Speedird 7 ай бұрын
Those of us who work in the aviation community will love the flight deck panel reminders everywhere on that!!
@keithexum7312
@keithexum7312 4 ай бұрын
Roger That 🛫
@pelagic6
@pelagic6 8 ай бұрын
Nice running boards 😂🤔 gonna go crunch!
@andyorr1597
@andyorr1597 6 ай бұрын
Loving mine.
@BitterCarGuy
@BitterCarGuy 9 ай бұрын
The presenter did a great job. Good to see how well he and Cole do their jobs!!!
@dannykrauskopf7404
@dannykrauskopf7404 9 ай бұрын
Awesome review!!! You guys rock as always!!! 😁
@Stuka87
@Stuka87 9 ай бұрын
There is a lot of things I like about these. But I would have trouble trading in my Wrangler for one mostly because of things like, parts availability. When I break stuff on my Wrangler, parts are super easy to find. If you break an axle shaft in one of these, its going to be tough to find parts. I also dislike the lack of a proper gauge cluster. However, I LOVE the looks, and all the physical switches. Which makes the digital screen for the gauges even more weird.
@andrewjones-productions
@andrewjones-productions 9 ай бұрын
Yes, I dislike the daft placement of the speedometer etc.. I suspect it is down to Radcliffe's sense of nostalgia for the first Land Rovers which also had the speedometer in the centre as did many older UK built vehicles. The Mini being the most notable perhaps. As a Welshman, I can confirm that the English very much like to live in the past. Sometimes that's good and sometimes that's not so good.
@AndrewAMartin
@AndrewAMartin 8 ай бұрын
@@andrewjones-productions I'm guessing that it also helps with the right hand drive-left hand drive swap if all of the important stuff stays in the center and just the small display has to be moved.
@Land_Raver
@Land_Raver 9 ай бұрын
Test drove one Saturday. Set for delivery in April. The steering seemed a little tight. Like the steering box nut was overtorqued. Rode great, though, and had plenty of power.
@HarryKuloh
@HarryKuloh 9 ай бұрын
Set for delivery to the dealer, or set for delivery because you plan to purchase?
@Land_Raver
@Land_Raver 9 ай бұрын
@@HarryKuloh That's the expected arrival at the dealership.
@canyon93108
@canyon93108 9 ай бұрын
It doesnt have the correcting caster; by design for offroad use.
@Land_Raver
@Land_Raver 9 ай бұрын
@colinmccrindle7102 I proposed that could also be the issue to the Ineos rep. It tracked straight though, which would be hard with 0 caster.
@kc0lif
@kc0lif 9 ай бұрын
nice vehicle ineos.
@jasonking6892
@jasonking6892 2 ай бұрын
Good Review 🇬🇧👍
@carlospinzon9842
@carlospinzon9842 9 ай бұрын
What an amazing rig, this is what Land Rover should be
@ronaldrrootiii6040
@ronaldrrootiii6040 9 ай бұрын
Yeah that is the story of why they made it actually specifically on purpose because the new Defender sucked
@midlandgeordie
@midlandgeordie 9 ай бұрын
Land Rover can’t make new defender fast enough!
@SPcamert
@SPcamert 9 ай бұрын
For a starting price of $71k on this thing that dashboard setup is pretty low rent. If I'm seeing it right there's not even a speedometer in front of the wheel which would be easy to remedy if they'd swap that 90's era "information screen" out for another standard display. 14 mpg is horrendous and I'm sure could be improved if they would let you take the vehicle out of 4WD mode for the street. I do like the look though. Looks like a combo of a G-wagen and a Defender.
@lamarzimmermanmennonitefar5269
@lamarzimmermanmennonitefar5269 9 ай бұрын
Do you know what would happen if you put twist locks on the front hubs?
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix 9 ай бұрын
The dash is designed like an aircraft to where you can remove panels to add switches etc. Very utilitarian over style for sure.
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 9 ай бұрын
@@lamarzimmermanmennonitefar5269 It would get better fuel economy and slightly better performance. Manual locking hubs are nothing new but we demand always-locked axles for convenience so we don't have to get out into the snow or mud to lock it.
@jdenmark1287
@jdenmark1287 9 ай бұрын
No, manual locking hubs do not increase fuel efficiency.
@strongperson697
@strongperson697 9 ай бұрын
this is so beautiful like the land rover from the 70 s beautiful
@constalecu
@constalecu 9 ай бұрын
That's very brave of Ineos to bring such a vehicle onto the market as a new development. Who else does that these days? But you should talk about the curb weight. All the solid components plus safety equipment add up to a lot. There isn't much weight reserve left when equipping properly for travel adventures.
@banebanebane
@banebanebane 9 ай бұрын
The payload is actually pretty good on these, it’s 1670lbs. Ineos did a lot of things that people ask for: make a barebones stripper available, not gate options behind trims, put in heavy duty solid axles/other gear, design around DIY. Then it turns out it’s expensive to do that and people get upset.
@Cocky.Rooster
@Cocky.Rooster 9 ай бұрын
@@banebanebane that w or wo things like the winch, ladder, snorkel, etc etc?
@banebanebane
@banebanebane 9 ай бұрын
@@Cocky.Rooster that’s without basically anything except an optional paint color and locker. The ladder and snorkel don’t add much, the winch is a killer and adds $7k ($5k for the winch+$2k for electrical prep)
@ElevationEveryWeekend
@ElevationEveryWeekend 9 ай бұрын
It’s a cool truck, have seen it myself and I like it. 14mpg is a deal breaker though. Is that going to be
@wyatt7426
@wyatt7426 9 ай бұрын
i have a badlands bronco it gets around 15mpg stock
@TreatsOnTheStreets
@TreatsOnTheStreets 9 ай бұрын
I'm confused how a b58 powered vehicle gets almost half the mpg of the BMW x5 with the same powerplant. I definitely expect worse with the weight and lack of aerodynamics but not that bad.
@RacingPhil69
@RacingPhil69 9 ай бұрын
Heavier car, different drivetrain, fulltime AWD, gear ratio, tire size/weight, engine mapping, aero… The only thing they have in common is the base engine.
@strangerdanger8462
@strangerdanger8462 8 ай бұрын
They're selling through established dealers.
@chadtague6429
@chadtague6429 4 ай бұрын
Same, my 5th gen 4Runner gets about 15 mpg lifted and loaded with KO2s. This thing looks like it has less ground clearance and gets less mpg. Looking at the new landcruiser to do hopefully about 20mpg after mods
@twoeyedbob
@twoeyedbob 9 ай бұрын
Pleased you like it Quite a few other reviewers seem to beat on it
@joshc606
@joshc606 9 ай бұрын
I like it!
@mikeda3643
@mikeda3643 8 ай бұрын
0-62 is due to most countries in the world using the metric system. 62mph is 100km/h (or damn close). They look good, can't wait to see the Diesel model in Aus
@rael6_4wd
@rael6_4wd 9 ай бұрын
Ineos has done it! What a beautiful vehicle. Now, if they only offered a much more stripped-down version for Peasants like me. 😉
@LilFella67
@LilFella67 9 ай бұрын
I like the Ineos but my biggest concern is availability of replacement parts (windshield, front quarter panel, etc). Being built in a Mercedes plant helps big time. Of course, with the UAW strike parts will also be a problem with the big three.
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 9 ай бұрын
UAW strike probably means I will be buying a Frontier or Tacoma instead of a Ranger or Canyon. The big three are going to have to offshore their manufacturing to get around the unions.
@LilFella67
@LilFella67 9 ай бұрын
@@jeffk464 I do like the frontier pro-4X over the new Tacoma just for the proven v6/9sp offering.
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 9 ай бұрын
@@jeffk464 The UAW's greed will hopefully kill it and probably take the Big 3 with it. They're probably regretting allowing the UAW to take root. Every non-union car I've been in was better built for the same money than the union cars.
@Ardventures
@Ardventures 9 ай бұрын
It’s built in a Merc Smart car factory in France how does that help
@mtadc1545
@mtadc1545 8 ай бұрын
​@@ArdventuresG class was built there, including the G300D Professional.
@michaelhalstead64
@michaelhalstead64 9 ай бұрын
the BMW shifter looks silly. But I love seeing new options come to the market. Its about time.
@enwins
@enwins 9 ай бұрын
You guys need to try the Foers Ibex. The very best offroader.
@thomasmatewe
@thomasmatewe 9 ай бұрын
side swiped by a defender 🗿, I feel you brother 😂
@VnazT
@VnazT 9 ай бұрын
I wanted to love it more than I do.
@jmpersonal2402
@jmpersonal2402 8 ай бұрын
Ineos Grenadier - I have one, I LOVE it.... and to think I was a 200 series LAND CRUISER owner! Off-road, who looks at cameras??
@lordnetsplits3192
@lordnetsplits3192 9 ай бұрын
So cool
@baddbeliever
@baddbeliever 8 ай бұрын
this is the best truck in the world right now.
@ottf24
@ottf24 9 ай бұрын
wow look at those weights on that front tire 🤣🤣
@FasterFartherX
@FasterFartherX 7 ай бұрын
Those center screens are the modern equivalent of the split entry home.. the difference being that the split entry houses aeren't glare and fingerprint factories.
@SeeChadRun
@SeeChadRun 9 ай бұрын
The Ineos Grenadier looks like a solid vehicle! Would love to get one, but it would be interesting to compare it to the Lexus GX550 or Yoda Land Cruiser 250 (I know that these two vehicles have IFS while the Grenadier has a SFA).
@jasonlovell3934
@jasonlovell3934 9 ай бұрын
The solid axles and lockers always make stuff look easy. Those ridiculous steps need to go and we need an in depth analysis of the axles strength so we can determine what size tires they will hold up to.
@BryanPike
@BryanPike 2 ай бұрын
They sourced the beam axles from Carraro who makes tractor axles. Up to 34" tires stock or 40mm spring lift will run 35+. Totally over spec'd.
@derrickschultz6871
@derrickschultz6871 9 ай бұрын
Having to sand and repaint your wheels every few years is a great feature. Steelies are awesome 👌
@R.Sole88109
@R.Sole88109 9 ай бұрын
I've seen the coating peel off 3yo alloys and wire wheeling rust is easier than welding up and machining curbed alloy rims. Use a 2k epoxy paint is better than the weasel piss that most modern paints are, especially water based paints🤮
@Jev55
@Jev55 9 ай бұрын
Just replace them when you put new tires on lol. If you're buying a vehicle like this then you can afford it.
@youtubecarspottersguide1
@youtubecarspottersguide1 9 ай бұрын
change rim colors
@kevinmokracek5078
@kevinmokracek5078 9 ай бұрын
Why do you need to sand and paint the wheels? I had a Defender with steel wheels for 16 years and never touched them. The truck is a tool, not a jewel.
@youtubecarspottersguide1
@youtubecarspottersguide1 9 ай бұрын
@@kevinmokracek5078 or a luxury car
@johnnyresistance
@johnnyresistance 9 ай бұрын
it's an impressive vehicle, just wish it was a bit lighter to improve the mpg and the price here in Australia is pretty high. nice video.
@tonyn1991
@tonyn1991 9 ай бұрын
You can get the diesel in Oz
@Ram14250
@Ram14250 9 ай бұрын
They look like an older Range / Land rover? Or is it me? I think they look great!!
@ronaldrrootiii6040
@ronaldrrootiii6040 9 ай бұрын
If you go back a few years and watch the story about the making of this thing it was that when the defender came out all modern and electronic with no solid axles a wealthy businessman went to Land Rover and asked if he could buy the rights to the defender body because they were so disappointed in the new Defender and Land Rover said no but they pretty much copied it anyways because this was meant to tell Land Rover what they should have done with the defender and the Grenadier was the name of the bar they thought of this idea in
@jdpst20
@jdpst20 8 ай бұрын
Is this the Test track off road area for Red Nolan COS? I passed by there the other day and saw the blue and white versions there and am tempted to schedule a test drive... I just don't want to get too excited for something a touch outside my budget... I could see spending 60-70k max but speced out at 90 NO way for an untested platform. I might adopt a used one in the future but def not an early adopter.
@ThePhotographyHobbyist
@ThePhotographyHobbyist 9 ай бұрын
2:35 Looks like they're not aired down at all?
@ligmaballz1
@ligmaballz1 9 ай бұрын
this thing looks awesome and I love how analog it is, but for the value, I think new GX550 or new Land Cruiser makes more sense
@Muriuki218
@Muriuki218 8 ай бұрын
I like it
@k7gixxer1000
@k7gixxer1000 9 ай бұрын
First company to manufacture a low profile front bumper for this truck is gonna make BANK!!!
@TD5rage
@TD5rage 9 ай бұрын
The intercoolers sit behind the corners of the front bumpers.
@k7gixxer1000
@k7gixxer1000 9 ай бұрын
@@TD5rage Low profile doesn't mean recessed.
@TD5rage
@TD5rage 9 ай бұрын
@@k7gixxer1000 I’m aware of that, I mean whoever designs one will have to take that into account.
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 9 ай бұрын
Only if the truck sells. Near G-Wagen pricing for something as luxurious as a Wrangler is a tough sell.
@gqami
@gqami 9 ай бұрын
Did I miss the cost? Great video guys.
@philip1345
@philip1345 7 ай бұрын
I really like it and may consider one in the future if they ever make a turbo diesel option available.
@BryanPike
@BryanPike 2 ай бұрын
Not going to happen in th US.
@Koaaliiokalani
@Koaaliiokalani 9 ай бұрын
Used to work for a JLR Red Noland and hands down best environment to work at especially in sales.... if life didn't take me away from the Springs and put in the cockpit I would be happily working there still. Good people there and I was never asked to pressure people to buy or do anything shady which took me by suprise since dealing with dealerships as a customer in the past.
@notice_fpv
@notice_fpv 7 ай бұрын
I'm curious, did you air down lower than 40ish psi while off-road?
@Arkeo36
@Arkeo36 9 ай бұрын
Would have been a good candidate for all those 5.7s that Toyota just threw in the dumpster out back of the Tundra plant.
@pault7977
@pault7977 9 ай бұрын
Would love to see a real head-to-head comparison between this and the Lexus GX550 (both 6 cyl. turbo - no hybrid). Compare them for price, build quality/fit and finish, on-road (road trip) and off-road driving impressions and capabilities - though I would think the Grenadier is better off-road with the solid axels and 3 lockers, getting to the off-road I assume the GX would be a smoother, easier and a more relaxing drive.
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft 9 ай бұрын
One is like a tractor the other is like a magic carpet.
@pault7977
@pault7977 9 ай бұрын
@@Art-is-craft I expect so.
@myauctionaddictionestatesa7451
@myauctionaddictionestatesa7451 7 ай бұрын
@@Art-is-craft Definitely. The amount of plastic to hack off on a Lexus and mods to get it up to the same level. Not in the same class. Need to compare to Jeep and the Bronco.
@kmg3144
@kmg3144 9 ай бұрын
Did you find the screen glare made it hard to read? When I test drove a prototype the Sun washed mine out.
@slingerriggin5226
@slingerriggin5226 9 ай бұрын
Looking forward to a TFL video covering the feds road and trial closures in Moab...
@carlosandresvazquezbaur9024
@carlosandresvazquezbaur9024 7 ай бұрын
With it's base weight, I would be curious to see what the snow and mud capability looks like when fully loaded up. Those wheel wells don't look like they can handle a much bigger tire than what is already provided, so I would just be curious about that.
@BryanPike
@BryanPike 2 ай бұрын
You can run 34" tires stock, lift 40mm springs and you got 35+.
@GBR4ME
@GBR4ME 9 ай бұрын
what's a locker, apart from a metal cupboard?
@hungryboy424
@hungryboy424 8 ай бұрын
How did you find build quality ? Seen loads of owners saying it's very poor !
@coryrogers8797
@coryrogers8797 9 ай бұрын
How did Alex score the first drive? Must have gotten a promotion 😂
@Brandon_Rivera
@Brandon_Rivera 9 ай бұрын
Idk? I like the design of my new Defender 90 more than I like this. I mean if you just want to keep that classic old defender look it’s fine but prefer the looks and clearances far more on my Defender 90. I have close to 13” of ground clearance before even going to off-road height currently. I would like to see a head to head on the Lexus, Toyota, Bronco, and Ineos. I am 55k miles into my Defender without a single issue. I’m sure the Grenadier has just as many electronics and bits that can go wrong as well so I will wait and see. Where would you get service on these? It looks like a great vehicle for the people it’s a good fit for. Just looks a little low on ground clearance. It will take quite a few bucks to get this built for solid off-road use. It’s already 90k without being fully spec’d. You would probably land around 110k. Hopefully the aftermarket comes fast and furious with parts for this. I hope they turn out great. Will just need to wait and see.
@BYLRPhil
@BYLRPhil 9 ай бұрын
Looks super cool, great video TFL! $70k is just way too much money, though. I hope the new Land Cruiser doesn’t fall victim to the same problem.
@Cocky.Rooster
@Cocky.Rooster 9 ай бұрын
Yea at that price the new Lexus GX 550 starts looking real good 🧐
@dadventuretv2538
@dadventuretv2538 9 ай бұрын
That one is not even 70k. 70k wouldn’t have any lockers, the winch, the utility rails, the ladder etc. The one he drove is somewhere 86K to 90K. Let that sink in. Lol.
@Cocky.Rooster
@Cocky.Rooster 9 ай бұрын
@@dadventuretv2538 hmmmmm so I gotta decide between this or the modern amenities of a f150/bronco raptor? Decked out Rubicon, modified land rover, etc etc? That's a hard sell
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 9 ай бұрын
@@Cocky.Rooster Don't forget a decent used G-Wagen with a few dollars left over to put proper wheels and tires for off-roading on it.
@nassermohd2317
@nassermohd2317 9 ай бұрын
All Offord likes Jeep and branco even this one is overprice but that because of inflation
@ferlottes
@ferlottes 9 ай бұрын
Holy JesusI want one !!! Arrrr ....
@Thankyou_3
@Thankyou_3 9 ай бұрын
Great video 👍 Is it possible to equip this with the 4.0 V6 Toyota 1GRFE engine? Not sure if the BMW power plant will last couple decades.
@myauctionaddictionestatesa7451
@myauctionaddictionestatesa7451 7 ай бұрын
The BMW G58 is actually a legendary engine for reliability. Certainly not all BMW stuff is known for that 😅
@Thankyou_3
@Thankyou_3 7 ай бұрын
all straight 6 engines are reliable from even Jeep, GM and of course Toyota but BMW straight 6 just good by its nature not because it is made by BMW. In fact, BMW parts and components are plastic and gets brittle with age. ​@@myauctionaddictionestatesa7451
@BryanPike
@BryanPike 2 ай бұрын
Ugh Toyota put this engine in the Supra.
@TT-ch2pz
@TT-ch2pz 9 ай бұрын
I don't understand why the side steps are so low. I'm sure it makes it easier to get in and out, but they won't last long off-road.
@CleaningMyGun
@CleaningMyGun 9 ай бұрын
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