The Tragic Resurrection and Second Death of GIGANTIC

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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
0:00 - Intro
1:56 - Gigantic
4:32 - 1. The Price
12:50 - 2. Performance
16:34 - 3. The UI
19:14 - 4. Game Hard
22:28 - 5. Rush Mode
24:45 - 6. Broken Queues
25:41 - 7. Slow Patches
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@gryffehondor4236 5 күн бұрын

I can't believe how low you've sunk. A studio's passion project dies from factors partially outside of their control, it gets a miraculous second chance nearly a decade later, and your first reaction is to act like a complete piece of shit and kick them while they're down ? Pathetic and disgusting of you. There's no denying that the problems you brought are valid (though some are largely overblown ; your whole rant about the B2P model has no basis in realities ; yes, most of them fail, but there are definitely B2P multiplayer games that have succeeded and / or have a strong community behind them), but you control the framing of said problem. Titling your video "the second DEATH of Gigantic" when it's not at all in the cards right now and pure fearmongering is some Logan Paul tier of profiteering of misery. Disliked the video, unsuscribed, blocking your channel.

@gangsterwangsterman8417 4 күн бұрын

the video seems like a bit of a stretch but gigantics death is defintely on the cards steamdb says theres only 100 people playing, and even if you assume epic games or xbox has the same player counts its still like 300 people playing which isnt a lot

@ingeniousclown 4 күн бұрын

The fact that you think the B2P points have "no basis in reality" shows how much your reaction is a huge knee-jerk. Most B2P games that are successes and have a community are either huge franchises or created by huge studios that have fans who will buy or try anything that they put out. There are always exceptions to the norm, but to rely on the idea that _your_ game is going to be that exception is pure insanity. ESPECIALLY when launching with the litany of issues this game released with. Of course going F2P wouldn't immediately save the game, but the population would 100% be healthier than it currently is, and give the studio many more chances at success than they currently have. "I can't believe how low you've sunk" is such a hilarious line, because if you've been around for any amount of time you'd know that I've made a few different "dead game" videos. Battleborn, Lawbreakers, Radical Heights, Darwin Project, Realm Royale, Crucible, Gigantic.... at the end of the day these are all games that I loved. I know the signs of a dying game by now, and I know how it feels to still be obsessed with a game as the player base continues to drop around you as you desperately requeue to try and eek out the last few good matches you may ever have for a given title. So yes, Gigantic's second death is very much in the cards. That's not to say there isn't a chance that it could turn around but given all the factors I mentioned in the video, I don't see that being likely. If I'm wrong and the game's population shoots up, yeah I'll make a video talking about how the game turned around and delist this one. But cope alone doesn't save a game. I love this game. I'll sing its praises forever, but the fact is that the new studio (not the original devs, mind you) bungled this re-release so terribly, and I'm not gonna pretend its fine out of some misplaced "respect" for the fact that it got a second chance at life. In my eyes, the mistakes are even more damning and deserving of heavy critique because of the revival. "Complete piece of shit", "Pathetic and disgusting", "how low you've sunk". All insulting, misguided, and narrow-minded statements that you're not taking anything in good faith. But to say this video is along the lines of misery profiteering that a clout-hungry con-artist like Logan Paul would make? As disrespectfully as possible, _fuck_ you.

@cambion6048 4 күн бұрын

GET DOWN WITH THE SICKNESS

@gangsterwangsterman8417 4 күн бұрын

@@cambion6048 is that the song from fortnite festival

@aeririahelmold 2 күн бұрын

Toxic and wrong lmao

@KonaSuba Ай бұрын

I played Gigantic a lot when it first came out Had no idea it was rereleased, terrible marketing I would say

@TheLOLGuy28 Ай бұрын

i've played it, the servers routing sucks really bad. if you aren't from NA, you're not getting a good ping. also the dev said they are waiting untill the bug are all fixed, they would push the marketing which seems kinda a bad idea.

@bloob1734 Ай бұрын

do you have any adblockers maybe?

@kennethlastinger5116 Ай бұрын

Indeed! I WANTED THIS GAME SO BAD!

@KonaSuba Ай бұрын

@@bloob1734 I pay for KZfaq premium and I ad blocks everything else on my internet network. So yeah no ads 😅 but still, none of the content creators I watch talked about it

@gameshowman1234 Ай бұрын

@@TheLOLGuy28 I will say, the only time I heard it was reulaunching was because of a video similar to this before release.

@Xiiboca Ай бұрын

Imagine relaunching a game of a very specific genre, years later and shortly after Marvel announces a game of the same type and for free and with the 'gigantic' Netease developing *Edit: New Valve game got leaked and is a hero shooter with moba elements too. LMAO

@levimcgillis6339 Ай бұрын

dont play the marval one its made by devs who dont seem to care for their playerbase

@clementine2718 Ай бұрын

the marvel game isnt really that similair as it aims more for an overwatch like feel than the moba genre

@juanRodriguez-ux3xb Ай бұрын

Imagine not knowing what kind of game your talking about 😂😂😂

@Dakotaaj12 Ай бұрын

Bruh 💀 you just baked em

@Xiiboca Ай бұрын

@@juanRodriguez-ux3xbSame genre but gigantic is in domination mode

@gjhabcvhj8280 Ай бұрын

I'm surprised that Smite is not mentioned as it's the first third-person MOBA AFAIK and still somewhat popular

@keo_bas Ай бұрын

What about guilty gear overture 2? Does it qualify?

@user-fl4kp3gz7n Ай бұрын

And apparently has a second game coming out ?

@sppooma6255 Ай бұрын

@@keo_basI would say it is in the genre but it is beyond dead

@mannyduran8458 25 күн бұрын

It's barley a real third person the true tp moba is paragon 🤷‍♂️

@siperog 21 күн бұрын

@@mannyduran8458 Smite IS in third person, it just ain't a shooter

@jeas10 24 күн бұрын

“I don't think that the game is currently dead” *Proceeds to put “Second Death of GIGANTIC” as a title*

@babyincubi 12 күн бұрын

Also at 30:38 "In some way, talking about a game's death is something that can help contribute to a game's death" 31:02 "But that's not what i'm trying to do here" ????

@dosezz5059 22 күн бұрын

biggest thing with these games deaths is the fact that there really is not any advertising for these games so nobody even knows the game exist😭

@arkratos3727 Ай бұрын

I was looking forward to Gigantic both times haha

@arkratos3727 Ай бұрын

And then missed its launch... both times...

@fcouri663 2 күн бұрын

@@arkratos3727 Its not like you couldn't technically play it? even to this day with ABYSSMAL playerbase on steam, you can still get matches, there is not a single game like this nor there will be.

@zyibesixdouze4863 Ай бұрын

no players in my region it feels like hell watching it die again

@cat11112222 Ай бұрын

That’s tough I’ve been playing every day try to vpn to America I’m lvl 100

@TheNorthstar235 Ай бұрын

hello, i just wanna say that 1. the games servers are free / very cheap to run are not likely to close. 2. the game isnt going to have a massive audience, we knew this before it relaunced, having 1000 or so as consistent players is fine. it was never expected to be a big game. and 3. it has been just over a month and has had a few updates already, which is more that some other games get, so with time the bugs will get fixed and the devs are listening to player feedback and have more content planned for gigantic, i still highly recommend this game to anyone who is slightly interested, it is my favourite game ever and is always fun with new things to learn and maste. if you enjoy pvp action it cant get better than gigantic imo! (also to those who complain about 60 fps imma be honest its not that big of a deal, the game was designed around the 60fps lock and therefore is really good looking at the cap) and also a lot of issues discussed have been fixed

@EclipseVenexus Ай бұрын

Not to mention they’re chipping away at what needs to be fixed. The game was released a month ago, I’m more than willing to give it some time. They had some patch notes six days ago.

@cindervelvet5851 Ай бұрын

With all of this said I do hope the game gets more of an audience it deserves more love

@EclipseVenexus Ай бұрын

@@cindervelvet5851 yeah. It’s a niche game for a small crowd. They are planning ranked mode

@haydenfarstead7024 Ай бұрын

Honestly I think ranked mode will save this game for the most part. If Deceive Inc can stay running Jen this game can with 5x the players lol.

@optidalfprime3904 27 күн бұрын

1000 consistent players is REALLY generous. There's 70 now. 400 monthly peak.

@rafresendenrafresenden.1644 Ай бұрын

Is really funny that Paladins won, at the end

@timurtheking Ай бұрын

Very strange as a paladins player, OW killed itself into 2. The rest died. Paladins is still dwindling in plYerbase but including console it still has like 10k daily players. Hires needs to fund it tho the dev team is tiny like 3 ppl. Perhaps they’ll make a paladins 2 after smite

@AstrosLittleWorld Ай бұрын

how exactly did paladins win ? i understand hating overwatch but the game is so far from even being close to dead and is FAR more played and popular than paladins so much so that it isnt worth comparing

@craggnarock7951 Ай бұрын

@@AstrosLittleWorld i think its more paladins has managed to stay stable sailing while overwatch is a grand ship currently on fire and heading for a bunch of rocks, they can still make it, they have everything they need to make it, but it will also cause a massive crash if it messes up too much more

@paranoia_xo 28 күн бұрын

in what metric did Paladins win lol? I don't even play Overwatch but saying Paladins won in any way is just braindead. Less players, less money, less future potential. Good meme I guess though bro

@dennis20591 28 күн бұрын

what is a Paladins lol nobody knows

@rune7894 23 күн бұрын

21:36 lol that's literally one of the best things about paladins. you aren't forced into a box like in ow and can actually adapt your playstyle to how you want to play while keeping the identity of the champion

@musicandaffection6363 5 күн бұрын

Some like it basic and that's why they like OW

@rune7894 5 күн бұрын

@@musicandaffection6363 everyone wants variety that's why updates and changing the meta is important. having more playstyles is an amazing way of bringing variety. many people don't like hero shooters cause having abilities is too much. does that mean that the concept is bad?. no it means that a game is not for everyone and that's okay.

@splinter4161 Ай бұрын

I miss Battleborn so much dude...

@mychaldudleyii2039 Ай бұрын

That one still hurts soooo bad especially since there was a single player component that SHOULD have been separated from the multiplayer.

@splinter4161 29 күн бұрын

@@mychaldudleyii2039 Yesssss!! I loved running through that split screen with my lil bro back in the day.

@hamfxbe 27 күн бұрын

the campaign is playable through the reborn project, sadly no update on pvp afaik

@mychaldudleyii2039 27 күн бұрын

@hamfxbe oh really? Last I checked the tutorial was playable but no further. Will have to double back to that one

@stryderlao 26 күн бұрын

@@hamfxbe yea I hate that the story mode was locked behind a live service model.

@CtisGaming Ай бұрын

Your video title's not helping. When ppl see Death of Game the generally assume it's for dead games with no population, not ones that just need to fix a few things to stabilize like you're hoping for here. This could cause a huge amount of ppl that might have been interested to assume like I did that the game has already shut down again when glancing passed this thumbnail...

@joshualeary7248 25 күн бұрын

The game averages around 100 players bruh

@superyamchama5659 22 күн бұрын

Doesn't help It had some of the shittiest servers i've ever seen on release and I played this game until it's first death and I can already see it's second sadly

@ElBandito Ай бұрын

Battleborn died too soon. Especially since it died so Overwatch could dominate.

@WolfieCasts Ай бұрын

This is such a good video and deserves all the attention. Like you can tell how hard it is for you to talk about even though you're trying to drill in your points. And there are a lot of people like you and I who want to make content for the game, but it's so hard in the current state. Gigantic is so much fun, but it's only fun when it works. And a lot of the time it DOESN'T WORK.

@TheKAGORA Ай бұрын

I miss Battleborn every single day..

@eduardoserpa1682 Ай бұрын

I generally prefer the buy-to-play model, but you need a little something to rope people in. Give me a free version with only 2 characters, a trial period, anything at all to get me and my friends interested. I even tried playing on the trial period on the Arc Launcher in the first week, but it straight up did not work for days.

@danielsniff6405 25 күн бұрын

I think its really silly that people absolutely expect that every game in this genere has to be free to play. Are we all forgetting that overwatch, THE HERO SHOOTER, was a buy to play game. Not only that, but when it went free to play, everyone dogpiled it. Crazy that people see a $20 price tag and discount it completely.

@ingeniousclown 25 күн бұрын

The difference is that Blizzard has a huge existing fanbase that will buy anything new that they make. That existing audience makes an absolutely massive difference.

@angrymoths 21 күн бұрын

@@ingeniousclownAnd its tragic how great things get overshaddowed by hype and marketing. Gamers are normies and it shows abundantly. Also the game's on sale rn for 12

@potatohyde2950 7 күн бұрын

@@ingeniousclown Yes and those people that bought overwatch 1 were critical of its changes even then, less players wanted to play overwatch 1 . Overwatch 2 going to free to play was in part of the player base leaving overwatch 1 that and also they wanted to make more money buy having real money to buy cosmetics from overwatch 1 were you got free loot with ingame currency. Overwatch going free to play and pay ingame has not done good for the games growth. making gigantic free to play will not help its growth

@HeWhoSoars. 20 күн бұрын

I want battleborn back so badly. I bought Gigantic 5 separate times all in the hopes Battleborn will come back. The FPS MOBA Mashup will succeed one day

@dunkarooni4135 Ай бұрын

I've been a diehard Gigantic fan since it came out. But sadly, I haven't played much of Rampage edition. Not because of the problems mentioned, but just because I don't have time. I now have a 4 year old and a full time job, so having the time to play online, un-pausable games just doesn't happen much anymore. But the handful of matches I've played, its been a blast and a nostalgia trip.

@CaioHenrique-or1ng Ай бұрын

the biggest problem the game had for me is that sometimes it just felt too laggy, like my hits that clearly land didnt hit, some abilities had weird behaviour and things like that, it wasnt a problem for autoaimish characters or the ones that do area stuff but jeez it affected many others

@mandrilpsicodelico 23 күн бұрын

For me, Gigantic's biggest problem is being paid, being not only a game that was previously free, but also a game that couldn't survive 1 year of being free, now they relaunch the game as a paid game (in times of Overwatch 2, Paladins, Marvel Rivals) and with several performance problems; besides the fear that he could die at any moment Speaking to players in Brazil, the game for us is costing R$60.00, something around $12,00 but, well, financial problems of international currency, and a game that costs R$60 for us has to be a reliable game and for what it's worth, in promotions there are 3A games that cost that price or a little more, and that's when the question arises, "Do I buy a 3A game, good, playable, that I know I'll have fun with, or do I spend it on game that died 7 years ago, paid for, that has no life expectancy, with performance problems?"

@genarotorresvargas5513 Ай бұрын

I wouldnt called death yet, a bad lunch sure, but lets see it in some months

@AVALONXIX Ай бұрын

We will see in a few months if it survives 🤷🏻‍♂️

@optidalfprime3904 27 күн бұрын

There's 70 players on Steam right now, PlayStation can't even play the game. It's dead.

@AVALONXIX 21 күн бұрын

@@optidalfprime3904 but people these days doesn’t understand that a bad launch is a killer factor to any game, it has been almost 2 months and the game still having too many issues and struggling

@aeririahelmold 2 күн бұрын

It is dead

@kingjohn8980 Ай бұрын

As a fan of Evolve, this situation is all too familiar.

@HiImRiv 29 күн бұрын

I loved the game myself but the y didn't know how to find the right power balance. At this point it also seems like it was the wrong team to be working on it after seeing back 4 blood die as well

@rainer9931 27 күн бұрын

Seeing that Gigantic was coming back and then going to see that it costed $20 genuinely made me want to cry

@PopeKheris 25 күн бұрын

I’m no longer into the genre but I was willing to try it if it was free. $20 upfront is a decision of all time considering all their biggest direct competitors are F2P

@RoboThunder 23 күн бұрын

@@PopeKherisRefunding is an option

@phokeene9123 17 күн бұрын

Shouldn't be gaming if $20 is an issue

@FishAnvil 16 күн бұрын

@phokeene9123 20 dollars for a MOBA isn't a great idea, especially since a massive blowout success for Gigantic is having 1,000 players worldwide.

@HighLanderPonyYT 14 күн бұрын

@@phokeene9123 Shouldn't be commenting if logic were an issue.

@shounak1715 Ай бұрын

Glad to see you upload

@FiLpLokko 28 күн бұрын

The first point is actually huge, i played gigantic when it first came out a little bit because my machine didnt run it that well, but i thought it was fun, so now that i have a better machine i was excited to the rerelease to really try it this time, but then when i see that this time it have a price tag, i just said to myself "well i was excited but not excited enough to pay for it" so i just gone play other games, i didnt know if the game would fail again or not, so i was not willing to pay to see its fate, im pretty sure a lot of people had a similar experience

@cosmicbrownie2312 22 күн бұрын

As someone who has been playing Paladins since OB55 and through a lot of its live run, it still blows my mind that people STILL play it despite the many many many many many bugs and moments where it feels like a low-budget indie game. I even just started playing it again and every time the game bugs out I don't even get mad anymore I just say "Hi-Rez moment...". I wish Gigantic could of survived longer but the game already is dead in the water and it is such a shame to have one less game in the hero shooter space that could of really been something fantastic

@Red_Rem 20 күн бұрын

The re-release had me baffled. The choice to go from F2P to $20 buy-in in a multiplayer-only game is just a terrible decision in every aspect. That choice, along with the fact that the creators have stated they won't be adding any new content and will be making minimal changes to the game, just makes it seem like they don't actually care enough to give the game a true second chance at life. Overall, the re-release left a bad taste in my mouth and made it feel like a quick cash-out rather than the re-ignited passion project that it was hyped up to be. It really sucks because the game had some great qualities. But, in today's day & age, there's so many alternative options that it doesn't even make sense to give energy to a company that doesn't seem to want to reciprocate the same.

@dedguysrule3791 29 күн бұрын

I actually really like Rush Mode, I think it's great for quick fast paced games that can still have a lot of tension to them. You can't just Rush (pun intended) in, you'll feed and die. You need to work with your team, hold your ground, know your character well enough to know when to retreat and where to attack. You're on a constant decision making spree sometimes and it feels similar to a game like overwatch or even paladins, and less like a MOBA. I think this mode is absolutely necessary for the population, and it makes sense as a mandatory game mode since it's the perfect starting area for new people to learn. I also loved that this game was only 20 dollars for NO monetization. It sucks having to pay 20$ just for a skin nowadays, and with how frequently skins drop in these games, games get expensive fast. It was super nice knowing I can just EARN my customization and characters, and made me wanna replay the game and get new mains and customize them more and more. However I do agree a free model would help the game get super popular again, however, I think they should do what Dead By Daylight does and do Free Weekends every month or so to try and get people playing the game. If they like it for the time they have to play it, they can pay the 20$ and have such a good game on their hands. However, I think the WORST thing for this game would be to give into the microtransactions of every other game, and the battle passes, and just focus on making this game a worthy title.

@epicshade3463 Ай бұрын

I enjoy Gigantic and it existed before Overwatch and many other hero shooters.I want this game to stick around!

@Skyjengi Ай бұрын

I think Gigantic can succeed if they make the correct choices here. I do not completely agree with most of the complaints in the video and here is why. 1. The Price. This one I agree with. The game will die if the devs choose not to go free to play. The player base that it has now can only decline from here if they do not do something big. 2. Once the game fixes the crash issues (which they are working on) I think performance is not really an issue most players face. 3. This is preference, but I believe the UI is much more clear than it was back then. The only issue is the popups after the match. It should auto skip then ask if you want details. 4. The game is hard but I do not think that is an issue. Learning is part of the fun of the game. This game desperately needs a in-game book which explains a lot of the minor details like stamina management and what a lot of the keywords actually do. 5. Rush mode is great for beginners to learn the general idea of the game. It also is a great gamemode to have as a more casual experience compared to the competitive Clash mode. Rush generally just feels fun to play without knowing how the game works. 6. The queue issue can be fixed. I do not understand why players need to Accept their match in the first place. 7. Once the bugs from release are patched out I think the game could be fine with a slow patch cycle, But the slow fixes have put a lot of players away from the game in the first month of release. I think if they make the game free to play later on in development, this can also bring a lot of players back.

@Podckast Ай бұрын

They fixed non of that still so deserved dead game here~ Sad but predictable

@kowilliam87 Ай бұрын

Def do not unlock fps. Not only does it desync u, it ruins it for everybody else in the game too.

@Skyjengi Ай бұрын

@@kowilliam87 i didnt know that, thanks for the heads up

@TundraCrow Ай бұрын

I agree with needing an in game codex to explain all the terminology of status effects like bufss, debuffs, armor and shields etc. Players should not be confused about what words are being used and in what context. I have this same issue for RPGS where the character sheet menu will use less common words to categorize your stats and not explain what they do or how they work.

@gameshowman1234 Ай бұрын

@@kowilliam87 That's an issue with the game they should fix. Imagine being stuck to 60fps in 2024

@alleosussquirt8041 13 күн бұрын

If 60fps doesn't cut it for folk anymore, I dunno what to tell ya.

@MrMadXenomorph 8 күн бұрын

This game looks like a total clusterfuck, just a barrage of random colors, beams, smoke and particles... Not to mention that the HUD elements are gigantic, no pun intended.

@NeverduskX 20 күн бұрын

I wouldn't say that the devs lack talent - so much as they might've been woefully unprepared to operate a live service game. There's a lot of planning and execution involved in being able to do quick updates (without making everything explode), especially when certification is involved, and I don't think they had the structure in place to do it. So, less about incompetence and more that the publishers, management, and leads didn't have the preparation or systems in place to fix Gigantic as quickly as another more-experienced dev. I can't say for sure that that's the case, but an entire dev team usually wouldn't struggle to fix an invincible enemy. Especially if they were skilled enough to relaunch the entire game. Often times, the fix is already found but it's stuck in the dev pipeline because they're overwhelmed by all the different moving parts and aren't prepared to safely shove it into production.

@mr_madness4208 Ай бұрын

Moba wise paragon has been ressurected again. Its called predecessor now and it is pretty good, definitely worth a try.

@brodymundy4875 23 күн бұрын

"i hate being fleeced by all these f2p games. >:( Ew why would you release this for 20$ and not for free why arent you fleecing me for more money????" this unhinged video

@kopi2734 Ай бұрын

to be fair with the point of Paladins, you can always check your opponent's to better understand their playstyle and decide how to deal with them

@bloodangel7731 Ай бұрын

I've honestly been having fun with gigantic. It feels so much different and the characters are all so unique and interesting. However the lack of cimmucation from the developers and lack of marketing is concerning to me. I really want to see this game's potential be realised

@QuintaFeira12 26 күн бұрын

That intro and Valve's leaks for Deadlock, oof.

@Rukir 24 күн бұрын

i just checked and it has a 24 hour peak of 200 players... oh..

@sainark_kranias 23 күн бұрын

The devs need to see this video and change their plans.

@KeepSkatin209 6 күн бұрын

This video initially scared me away from buying the game but after I thought about it, I'm definitely buying and playing it.

@danielbr93 Ай бұрын

About the slow patches part, it is a known issue that I hear from Grinding Gear Games which make Path of Exile. It sucks when they know there is a big issue, they do their best as quickly as possible, but then have to wait for Sony to do their thing.

@M0nchis 16 күн бұрын

Deadlock leaks reminded me of this game.

@aubrinthentity1207 20 күн бұрын

Bro please dont remind me of Battleborn. I was so hype for the game but I was in middle school and didn't have the money for it so I missed the whole thing.

@verdura31 19 күн бұрын

The fact that they wanted to charge 10$ for a game barely few people know and with free similar games such as overwatch 2, paladins and the future coming marvel overwatch and the valve overwatch is such a massive dumb decision. It's a shame about Battleborn tho, they even had a proper PvE mode.

@RingoRoad 23 күн бұрын

I'm tempted to pick it up, but I dont want to fall in love with it, only to feel the heartbreak if it shuts down again. and considering the way its trending, i see that day coming sooner rather than later

@25kubalok 23 күн бұрын

I used to love this game… I still love it. It just hurts so bad to see it die again…

@giggajames1903 22 күн бұрын

They should have released it with an offline mode along with the option for people to set up private servers. That way they could justify the $20 price tag and the fans wouldn't be left without a game when the developers inevitably shut down the servers.

@jessicabunbun620 21 күн бұрын

Battleborn was my favorite game 😭 I played it every single day

@LICH_REAPER 23 күн бұрын

21:57 I think the main difference is that in Paladins, if someone is going a build you're unfamiliar with, you just look at the scoreboard and check their loadout. There's only 5 cards in a build for you to check. In gigantic, there's a huge skill tree you need to scour through to see what does what, and giant descriptions in each one. You don't have time to do that in games like these

@superspartan8086 Ай бұрын

The issue with Gigantic is that the marketing has always been bad. I found about it today 4 scrolls down in a TikTok comment section on an Overwatch video. I had no clue it was back a month after its rerelease.

@newtonmarques1271 21 күн бұрын

the first and second mistake was thinking people should have to pay for this thing

@user-wm8su8eu3c 27 күн бұрын

I played this game years ago, it was hard at the beggining, and I play it now and it s almost the same actually. It was always a small comunity but honestly I would never change it for another free moba full o microtransactions and toxic comunities. I just hope that this time Gigantic don t die u.u

@kingroosta 18 күн бұрын

I remember playing battle born beta the SAME week as overwatch beta, and I actually liked it better. Still, even during the beta, I knew which game was going to die.

@bruszan 26 күн бұрын

I can't explain how much hope I had when it came out of nowhere on steam and the huge disappointment to see it's buy to play knowing that the fate of the game was already decided

@IceDragonRocky 21 күн бұрын

Yeah the cost is what kept me away. Would love to play it but things just cost so much these days that I cant justify it at least till im more stable

@angrymoths 21 күн бұрын

Its on sale now for 12 That 2 more than lethal company. This the kind of game you buy bc you get good logevity out of it and the price is low and fair. F2P might be easier for people to play, but that's a pandora's box of trouble the OG game already failed at on top of multiple other variables. Try and get it on sale like im pretty sure it still is now.

@angrymoths 21 күн бұрын

Game playa like a dream, people gotta give it a shot, esp. Since Valve's new game deadlock seems very similar, if a bit slower paced than Gigantic

@gameshowman1234 Ай бұрын

Didn't play the original but I bought this version on release. I enjoyed the 1-2 games I got to play before the que system completely broke but it felt like a dev build. I've never seen a full price product with suck poor menus, servers, lack of resoultion controls (You can't run the game above 60fps or 240hz), and freaking dev text in game. Shame on whoever decided not to push it back just a little bit more to help the devs out. Not blaming the devs at all, blaming the guy who gave the thumbs up on the build that was at launch and let all of that "hard work" go to waste.

@Silencedmage708 Ай бұрын

It was as good a launch as could be with what they're working with, and I take issue with the video claiming slow patches. Yes they had their first patch nearly a month out, but the connection issues were fixed within 48 hours without the need for a patch, and the queue issues were fixed within a week, again without the need for a patch, and before they even released that patch there was a workaround to the queue issues shared on their socials.

@gameshowman1234 Ай бұрын

@@Silencedmage708 That's just wrong. I had the game for 3 days before refunding it.

@Silencedmage708 Ай бұрын

@@gameshowman1234 No it is not, you made me second guess myself, but I literally just checked the dates and it actually was less than 2 days. Game released April 9th, fix and compensation package was released the 10th. I don't know what issue you had, but if it was still a problem more than 48 hours after launch, it wasn't the same connection issue that affected most of the playerbase.

@gameshowman1234 Ай бұрын

@@Silencedmage708 April 10, game comes out and is broken April 11, they claim to fix it just for everyone to try again and have the same issues. I refund April 12, They finally fixed the game but at that point, it was too late. Sense then, the playerbase went from Over 4k players, to 100.

@G0Crazy1 Ай бұрын

@@gameshowman1234why are you lying on a yt video about a game

@atsunymphae2723 12 күн бұрын

Is anyone else's PlayStation still crashing 😓? Thank you for the video 🙏

@malo2214 Ай бұрын

I was unable to play this upon re-release due to not having a strong enough laptop to play. But It's sad hearing that this game is failing again

@ATimeB4YoutubeAds Ай бұрын

It is my opinion that if this game were to release as it as today (so a month of patches and fixes) gigantic would be one of the most played games at the moment. What would be great of they were to release it now as free, where the original purchasers kept their benefits and now the new players got the watered down version (less hero choices, harder grind and/or pay for cosmetics).

@punkypony5165 24 күн бұрын

Valves game deadlock really came to make sure Gigantic died for good

@patrickcanter2887 29 күн бұрын

Bro this game potentially can break your ps5, literally freezes and forces me to unplug from the wall to do anything on my ps5

@jaydo4545 Ай бұрын

I get matches in less then 2 min on gigantic, definitely not dead yet but probably on its way

@CrazyAce777777 Ай бұрын

damn say it aint so. my only gripe is i could never feel any form of feedback when i hit a enemy in Gigantic

@uppercutyt818 25 күн бұрын

Paid my $20, got lossless scaling to give me 120 FPS, and got my ~15 hours out of it when the concurrent player-count was between 1,000 and 2,000. It was fun going back for a while, but it was clearly a cash grab. If you’re enjoying the cash grab, then that’s fine, but it doesn’t change anything.

@lucasdiassilveira9762 20 күн бұрын

The paid access didn't help that much a game that was not even popular

@Lethalios 19 күн бұрын

Dude, all this video did was make me miss Battleborn again.

@vergilcold1167 Ай бұрын

I tried playing recently but it took so long to get into a game, it also felt lacking in content. It was fun tho

@GoreSorrow Ай бұрын

Thank for your opinion

@stephenduphily9341 28 күн бұрын

Bought the game 2 days ago. I. Enjoying it so far. Longest wait time has been 1 minute for me. I haven't encountered the ps5 lock up bug. O hope it stays around.

@1Raptor85 Ай бұрын

Don't agree on the F2p argument, sure it might bring in more overall players but it also turns the game into a toxic nightmarescape where bans mean nothing, and the game is ALWAYS trying to up-sell you or increase grind to push you to just buying your way up instead of "putting in the hours", and incentivizes new champions being added to always be more broken/more powerful so you'll always win more matches if you buy them immediately. Every...Single...MOBA does this and it's obnoxious. I would love to have a good one that just had no micro-transactions at all, sure that might mean it has a lower population, but at least you wouldn't have to deal with all that bullshit...

@milkiesLoverboi69 Ай бұрын

That doesnt apply to every game. I played Gigantic back then and the experience was positive. What matters is the community

@Wandermidget Ай бұрын

I also feel that such a nuanced game like Gigantic struggles with a F2P format too due to how characters are. The average character or class in a F2P game is pretty simple to understand. But with Gigantic's combined with mechanics the average player still fails to understand, and with paths changing mid match due to the leveling system in Clash it can feel like a massive waste to grind out all of your time to get a new character if you get stomped by the typical Tripp, Kaldr, or T-MAT while having no clue how your new character works.

@1Raptor85 Ай бұрын

@@Wandermidget and that's kinda another thing, I know little about the game other than what reviews and this video says (the original game I never heard about until later due to it not being on any reasonable storefront, the re-release they literally advertised to no-one), but from what you're saying they still have a character grind??? Why tf is there even a character grind if it's no longer F2P? Are they still ALSO selling micro-transactions for such stuff?!?! With either of those that would INFURIATE me as a paid player being forced to either grind with characters I don't like or pay extra money for the ones I do just to play the damned game. While I'm iffy on micro-transactions period there's a reason paid competitive games always ONLY have cosmetics at most in their shop, if they have a shop at all.

@jackrush1222 Ай бұрын

it's a necessary evil for MOBA games. it just NEEDS to be f2p otherwise it wouldn't get the players it needs. It's an added factor too in deciding whether to buy the game or not. Gigantic may be fun, but possible buyers might just pass on it cause the player base is too low in their region. Gigantic might as well be a dead game if you don't have anyone to play with. Overwatch 1 mitigated this by having a single player campaign mode. Possible buyers could think for overwatch as "Well, the singplayer mode is still really fun and the story is engaging so it's worth the price" Gigantic doesn't have that.

@jackrush1222 Ай бұрын

Remember that at the end of the day, games are a business. Having a lower population, with no micro-transaction would outright kill the game. This is a live service game. It has maintenance and updates it needs to pay and to do that, it needs money. Money that can't be get just by sales of the base game. The sale of the base game wouldn't even break even with how expensive maintaining a live service game can get.

@DerekCFPegritz 9 күн бұрын

I loved Gigantic. So much. But I didn't play it _that_ much even back in the day. When the Rampage edition came out, I was mad psyched to get back into it. So I bought it, installed it, got into a few matches. Every single match, I was so completely out of my depth that 98% of the time I didn't even get to play: I was dead within ten seconds of respawning--because everyone I was up against were clearly VERY familiar with the game from the past _and_ familiar with it as it now stands. I refunded the game after about and hour and a half. I'll check it out again if it goes F2P, but I'm not about to pay for the experience.

@erichdegurechaff9515 15 күн бұрын

I would try this game if it was free. But marvel is releasing a hero shooter for free, its a no brain decision

@EasyontheYees 26 күн бұрын

I miss battleborn so much 😭 it had so much potential but SO many problems with it on release

@SCVM45 16 күн бұрын

Yeah i was going to try it but i do not want to pay to try.

@clamiraclegaming2412 23 күн бұрын

I was excited when they announced the rerelease, then I saw it was no longer free to play. I couldn't decide to buy it knowing that it might fail like many multiplayer hero games

@davidfajka7149 27 күн бұрын

I'll cry myself to sleep over and over again to see Battleborn die.

@frozenstar8050 Ай бұрын

I love this game since 2017, it's so fun gameplay-wise, but Rampage Edition released in such a messy state. $20 to not be able to play at launch due to broken queues that's just wow. I stuck around because I know what the game is and in the end it's worth for me. But the state at launch pushed so many potential new fans away it's sad.

@2ndai385 20 күн бұрын

Deadlock is about to replace Gigantic

@2ndai385 20 күн бұрын

If only gigantic released eith ranked and wasn't unfinished. Just like Xdefiant released kinda sad. I love gigantic and even casually I don't feel like playing it over other competive games in a casual sense either

@dustinpowell1645 Ай бұрын

I never got the opportunity to try Gigantic the first time around, so when I heard that it was being brought back from the dead, I was genuinely excited (wish listed the game on Steam and everything). I still play hero shooters on and off, and I actually played it quite a bit during the first week or so that the Rampage Edition released. I haven’t played since, and I honestly don’t know when (or even if) I’ll feel the urge to do so in the near future. Personally, I find that there’s very little that Gigantic offers that other, similar shooters don’t already do, and that’s a huge shame because I really wanted to love this game. If I absolutely HAD to advise someone on the fence about purchasing the game, I’d probably just tell them to save the twenty dollars and play Paladins instead because that game (to me) not only has more things to do, it just feels and looks so much better. I definitely think the $20 entry fee, while not prohibitive by any means, will play a role if the game’s population seriously declines; while I don’t regret giving Gigantic a try, as of right now, if I could request a refund I honestly probably would.

@HighLanderPonyYT 14 күн бұрын

Releasing this game as anything but F2P was a tone deaf decision.

@MilanLS7 21 күн бұрын

I bought it within the first 2 weeks of release, in EU I queued maybe 3 games over the span of 5 tries. That was kinda iffy

@Mojomanultra 7 күн бұрын

Whaaaaaat I had no idea about this 🤣

@jemarshaw4986 23 күн бұрын

I got the game and it takes like 10 to guns a match I was hyped for it cause I played back in the day but man they didn’t market the game good or advertised it

@lorferreirapastoreli9581 Ай бұрын

i played gigantic, in the firt lauch, in a preatty yung age for it, and now I could enjoy it, if it was free...

@angrymoths 21 күн бұрын

Now your old enough to buy it on sale for only 2 more dollars than Lethal company! All the cosmetics are unlockable too and character mastery is fun

@davidsullivan2404 11 күн бұрын

I loved Battleborn so much!

@playgrounds6159 Күн бұрын

Wait this game isn’t dead? Why are people saying it’s dead? It’s simply not.

@paesafps Ай бұрын

smite is also considered as a merge between hero shooters and mobas, so its not a curse on the combination

@ingeniousclown Ай бұрын

i 100% disagree. smite is a classic moba with a different perspective. the lack of vertical aiming and more freedom-of-movement divorces it from the rest of the hero shooter genre

@diegofreire6144 Ай бұрын

It's really simple, the game is competing in a very oversaturated genre (from MOBAs to Shooters) where every single game is Free to Play using a Live Service model. Putting a 20$ paywall on the game is what killed it no doubt, a lot of people where really intersted in it (myself included) but when you see that you have to spend 20$ for a game that has already failed before when i can just play League of Legends, Overwatch, Dota, Paladins, Fortnite etc... it is just unreasonable. The only game that succeeded in using a Pay to Play model in that genre was Overwatch, and that because the market wasn't oversaturated with Live Service games, it was a Blizzard title (before the downfall of the company) and it was the first to make that style of game with actual polish ( and had a lot of money for marketing ), and now even it has migrated to a Free to Play model. You also have to consider that outside of the US (or Canada or Europe) like in Brazil where I live, 20 Dollars is A LOT of money, for example, the minimum wage of Brazil (the state that I live in) is around 1500 BRL which converting is around 300 US Dollars. (Brazil is also one of the biggest markets for games) So yeah... the price killed the game.

@Quinz128 23 күн бұрын

The mention of Battleborn... Wow... I miss that game so much. It was such a good game, had a lot of character personality that bounced off each other so much and had a multiplayer campaign mode in addition the the PvP which I loved. My friends still quite some of the lines from Battleborn. I wish they didn't challenge Overwatch. Even though, IMO, Overwatch was (and still is) a much more shallow game, it was from a big name with better marketing that even Gearbox couldn't challenge. If it delayed just a few months, then it would have been a hit, I am certain. I am still surprised that people focused on Overwatch, especially since it didn't even have a (permanent) PvE like they were told they would end up getting, when Battleborn had more colorful characters with actual dialogue between them in both the PvP and PvE aspects. I still hear Becket's kill line against himself. "They CLONED me? THAT"S BRILLIANT!" The amusement of El Dragon breaking Kayfabe with his "Seriously, What the heck was that?" ISIC's "Everybody Dies!" Even something as simple as Oscar Mike going "1...2... 4... F*&^!" during pushups. I know this comment was all about Battleborn, but damn I miss it.

@stryderlao 26 күн бұрын

I really miss Battleborn 😞 Been playing Overwatch and Paladins but Battleborn was my favorite. I try to get into Gigantic but it still havent grab my interest like talking about.

@alphawolf1919 Ай бұрын

As someone on xbox I can say the numbers can't be good considering the wait times

@dunkelgrau538 21 күн бұрын

And now valve make they own Gigantic dead on arrival game lmao

@stroads. 24 күн бұрын

My biggest qualm with the relaunch was how piss poor performance was on PS5. My frame rate wasn't great and the resolution was abysmally low, it didn't look great

@insertname2895 Ай бұрын

I havent gotten to play gigantic just cause i have not want to pay i do plan on it soon tho just wanted to wait a bit

@bjarkibjarkibjarki Ай бұрын

void.... stranger... 🥺

@biteryn Ай бұрын

It's singleplayer

@lukesoddlife Ай бұрын

Ps5 edition not working even now with hard crashes put me off. I never played the original, but this was my way of getting into it. And still now I refuse to play it at the risk of bricking my console.