Parker have you plans on testing ctsouds subs?

Well it's a good thing all my subs are from skar audio and CT sounds, I wouldn't spend $500 on 1 sub let alone $1000

Don't have to be a fanboy to see his flawed testing and inexperience.

and then you still put a link in the descip. for the sub how cool is that

@@NewEnglandSPL wether he knows how to test or not he put the less expensive subs on the same test and they survived

It should have played for a week on 3k

Longer

Hey big D

That's a nice looking speaker but if I can't do its RMS then it's not worth it. I understand​ that you have to gradually break a speaker in too.

No it's not worth the money I had .y skar sdr 12s for 3yrs and I have a rp1500 and I push them boys hard every day and I tried to blow them and they still survive

@nate0 I also got 4 different subs from skar about 4 years ago as well and they were packaged pretty well.

I can go ahead and tell you DC doesn't send level 5s in a single box.

@@MuscleMustang07 what are they sent in?

@nate0 Now it takes 20 minutes and a machete to open a skar box. My 8"s and 18" came every well packaged.

My level 6 18 was like that, but worse! Sub is fine tho

I do 170s at 52hz with them.... never even get hot or clip. Thats the difference between proper enclosure and tuning.

@@bassheadlifetelevision2264 Have you ever tested a sub with a higher FS and more cone area at 52Hz? I would be curious if that would get you even higher?!!? 170's are nuts! I just recently hit 155 and I'm working on 156 lol

If you ever replace them go Digital Designs.

yep but this sub dindt last power wasnt dirty i dont think AND AGAIN WHAT WAS THEY THINKING WHEN GTHEY BUILT A MONSTER ASS SUB BUILT FOR A BABBY BOX???? MAKE ME UNDERSTAND???

@@djkeys415s DC Audio is known for small boxes.they hit hard AF I had 2 DC XL Elite 15s on just 6 cubes. These 12s only need 1.5 cubes. You won't understand til you hear one in person. Too many don't believe a monster sub in a small box is a Good idea but it's honestly my favorite part of DC subs. They take half the room a normal sub yet you produce more bass.

@@vasquez3769 I'm gonna do my research it fkd me up I ain't gonna lie

I've had 2 level 4s for almost 2 years on an sundown sfb8k. And yes I agree there customer service is amazing..I had a cracked cone and they sent me a new cone and the glue to fix it for free and it wasn't even there fault or anything..it was something I had done and they still sent me the stuff to fix it for free....DC alll day!!!!

@@djkeys415s They are optimized for small enclosures. One of the main benefits is that you can fit significantly more cone area in the same size box vs other brands. I.E. You could run 2 of these in the box he was running one in. When you're space limited, it makes quite a big difference.

I seriously doubt the box was too big for that sub... and a small box would help control the sub from bottoming out. (small box = resistance)

The owner himself said not to run it in a 10-cube enclosure

@@2869may box was too big. 100%

@@vasquez3769 Really...? I figured it was small for that sub....

@@2869may no not even close. You don't need more than 1.5 cubes for it. Plus his port and every other box spec is wayy off.

Exactly! And the sub was great! Just not $1000 great in my opinion

My POINT EXACTLY!!!! yuo can spend less than 500.00 and get better performance that's why I do a lot of budget first

Yeah everyone is crying the box is too big, for $1000 it should be able to survive a slightly oversized box at RMS...

Much easier to test them all in open air than it is to try and make the right box for all of them.

I was wondering about the box size also. Great point.

You know theirs a small box specs and big box specs for every sub so that’s box is probably the perfect size

@@cuh_2023actually 1.5 is already big for these subs. I run mine at 1.2-1.3 per 12” on double power

no, this kid has barely any idea what he is doing

Lmao

You can do anything lol

Well the point is the sub couldn’t take it either way

Lmfao ok dc fanboy he's thrown how.many other subs in those same enclosures and absolutely abused the living hell out of them and they took it all day long go enjoy your waste of money there buddy I'll stick with my sundown's that blow dc out of the water FOR HALF THE PRICE!!!

Exactly this. The sub was moving way more than it should have been. Enclosure is way too huge.

The box is small, but not the port hole, far too open for the enclosure. Might as well just be in open air. Seal it up a little more and you'll get far better sound.

It was a thermal failure, not a mechanical failure...box size would have made no difference.

@@sHoRtBuSseR deaf bonce was free air & took it explain that

@@fd1596 playing below tuning in an enclosure that is too large results in heat buildup because of the amount of air moving through the gap. It just isn't enough.

D4S definitely holds some responsibility here too.

Next level car audio just did an unboxing of the m5 and it looked like a single box, but had bracing in the corners that the wood sits on. Seemed pretty solid

My m2 lvl 5 18 was pretty much in a crate when I got it

No chance they warranty the sub. He's got a video of a torture test. Oh it stinks so let me continue to push it. Warranty doesn't mean the consumer can abuse the crap out of something and have it replaced

@@sleepsensations9755 Honestly i think the fact that he is an up and coming youtuber would probably make them want to replace it more than just some rando. makes it look like they have good customer service to any viewers. Its pretty typical of most companies to give anyone with any sort of sizable following special treatment

again...the point is IT SOULD HAVE SURVIVED under not so perfec test thats wy he do that kinda of tests good shit will survived as other woofers did befor it

He tested cheaper woofers in the same box n it held up just fine and the American bass he took out the motor is small n have the same rms power

@@djkeys415s when your enclosure is over 1cuft too large no the woofer should not survive on rated power you obviously know absolutely nothing

@@WhixxLFS that means absolutely nothing, price means shit when you put a sub in an enclosure that is over 1cu ft to large, on rated power + I don't care what sub it is it is going to fail. You can't put a sub designed to be in 1.5cu in a 2.5 cu enclosure and expects it to last

These mofos are like just because its expensive means it should do EVERYTHING. LIke buying a lambo then blaming the car because it can't make it through the rocks of the moab desert. BUT THE JEEP THATS CHEAPER COULD DO IT SO MY 250k CAR SHOULD TOO!"

yeah that's true. I remember back when I was in high school I had a custom box made for two audiobahn 15s and I took them out and thought I could just slap some Solo-Baric squares in there. lesson learned there. the solo barics sounded horrible because the box was custom-made for the audiobahn even though they were both 15-in subwoofers they must have had different specs for the box size

WELL...yea that is true but thats wy me if i was a sub builder i would make sure my box sizing would be kinda wide range just incase every body cant afford a custome box after spending 1k plus on a 12 inch sub{wich is somthing i would do anyway not enugh cone relistate for that kina money} but for parker and his buiness i understand and would spend the money

@@djkeys415s if you can afford a 1k and up sub you can afford someone to build you a box for 400 or build one yourself with 3 sheets of MDF if cost is the issue. I built my box for 157 with everything even on the expensive side of MDF 160 for three sheets then 12 for some screws 5 for caulk and 6 for wood glue, need a saw? 40$ harbor freight then a 26$ Drill that’s exactly all my tools for building my box I did 150 at 23hz. I’m not a wood worker and I could do it. Not trying to call you out but it’s really not expensive to build.

@@TheSimulatorSmith yep it's a thorn in my side for a while now I'm not home right now I have tools at home and getting woods no prob.I THINK IM ON THE LAZY SIDE the new boxes I bought month ago failed during SPL testing for slam next month but I build p.a.boxes simple bass reflex for night clubs thanks for the confidence in me building my own box and i no I can just got to get off my ass and get it done

@@TheSimulatorSmith was that comment for parker ???or me ????

Dc makes good products but sucks when it comes to customer service and looking out for the customers

@@rjdatdude23 talking about bad customer service brandx is just as bad. I got a bad alternator it wasn't even charging and the guy wouldn't even acknowledge it and have yet to hear a reply didn't even ask me to send it in for repairs.

@@tavozuniga7364 traded my brand x in for an irragi. Brand x wouldn't charge over like 13.7.

@@tavozuniga7364 US alternator is what I went with couldn't be any happier its a champ .even customer service was great the owner Dan him self called me I had an issue wit fitment sent it back he fixed the issue. Meechman didn't make a H/O alternator for my 09 g37x sedan..

@@tavozuniga7364 JP is a piece of shit. He did the same to me for an alternator that lasted a month

I appreciate you man!

Do you know what the (Fs) fee air resonance parameters are for both of those subs?

Agreed

Fi subs are very underrated subs

King city is on hiatus. No box orders for the time being.

I'd have to agree my zvx's were packaged decently. When we pulled my lvl 6's out of the fed-ex truck the boxes literally fell apart. I spent 1200 ea forth dc's and 400 ea for the zvx's. Smh

@@kdsboosted4954 yeah I would be pretty pissed about that myself!! You’d think it would be in a custom gately audio sealed shipping box for that price lol

@@garymiller652 yeah it was disappointing. I didn't realize the box was falling apart until I picked it up and the speaker fell through lucky I caught it barely. I have the 18's so they're 108 lbs each.

@@kdsboosted4954 damn you got lucky you caught it! I would have been so pissed especially if it did hit the ground bc it would have destroyed or at least scratched the motor all to hell for sure. They definitely need to step up their game and spend some of that money on packaging for sure.

@@garymiller652 for sure worst part is I haven't installed any of my dc system yet. I have 2 lvl 6 18's and a DC 10k and the 175.4 with some DC neo 6.5's and it's all still in the closet. I haven't fucked with it yet smh.

And I have never had to recone any of my personal subs from accidentally blowing them. Now I've never tried to run a straight test tone for minutes at a time, but I've never had a issue with any of them on daily abuse with some comps thrown in...

@@DominionAudio yeah I agree that the straight test tone is super tough on subs! Musically the sub took power like a champ. My point was more that when compared to the Deaf Bonce it didn’t really stack up. And yeah idk what the heck happened with the packaging 😂 maybe it had been returned or something and was just thrown in a random box. Regardless the sub was I damaged and was awesome while it lasted! Would still be going if it wasn’t for that damn test tone

the point is this THAT 1K DOLLER SUB SOULD HAVE SURVIVED if box size is what that sub life line and haert is i woundt want it and we all know dc makes top shelf stuff but???

@@djkeys415s that is like saying you are pissed a motor blew up because you ran it with no oil. Enclosure size has EVERYTHING to do with a subwoofers life. Do your homework

This is why we have box recommendation

@@gmcsilverado4183 I think a sub should handle it’s rms rating no matter the condition, just my opinion

@@ardianelias1291 so a piston from a chevy small block should fit in a vtec engine? Same logic, same outcome. Not how it works

Not in an enclosure almost twice the size as the speaker should have. This one isn’t on DC. This one is user error… lol

Rusty will make things right. It's just a slap in the face that Parker put him on blast for something that's out of his control. RATEDwrms sinewave isn't a standard test for any sub....it's a torture test

@@djwonderbrad are you sticking to that, you saying Rusty will make things right? Not sure how you can speak on what another man is going to do, or not do... Especially a businessman, making decisions regarding his business. Guess we'll see & time will tell if you are right or not.

@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 considering I know my local authorized DC dealer and have a few teammates running DC I'd say I know what I'm talking about....

@@djwonderbrad well well, let's just see how well you know your man Rusty... Let's see if Rusty actually replaces Parker's subwoofer or if he offers to refurbish it...? Only time will tell & I'm sure Parker will let us know. Just hope you are right "Charlie Manson"

two thins with this, the enclosure was way too big and had to been clipping them to heat that coil up that fast and blow it.

@@apocalypse4720 yes his box is too big. It may work fine for most subs he tests but that things an entire cube too big. Put that in a 1.5 cube box and it would slap all day

The 1.5 is the minimum not maximum recommended up to 30% bigger on an enclosure is no problem

@@Gr8rome407 most people never go over 2 cubic feet per sub and they usually run below rated power doing so

@@Gr8rome407 Rusty and them say nothing about 2 cu ft per sub due to it will start to free air more and take less power. the best numbers come from 1.5-2 cu ft with them subs.

He basically bottomed out the sub to death due to over excursion due to too large of a box

Yep and yep!!!!! Haters will say it's fake though. DC Audio makes incredible gear. This proves that this guy in the video is just not that smart.

That 1.5 is for a every day bass but this box shouldn’t really be big for it this box is more for spl then every day bass

@Travis Hamler ​ lol down4stupid lol what did JP do to you? Or you just another hater with no reason to hate? Gotta look cool somehow I suppose. Also he never shows a clip meter or a o scope so how you know he clipped it for an entire song?

has anyone modeled this driver in winisd for a 2.5 cubic foot box? what’s the actual cone excursion for 3000W at what freq compared to x max / xmech of this driver?

Thank you!!!

Xmaxx monster all the way.they sound great.had a 15” on 4500 watt amp it was super nice for price

A 3k amp? If so likely clamping 1500w.

@Travis Hamler the enclosure is a good bit of blame too little port area and enclosure looks way too small for those big subs

I fill your pian so did mine and it was left in the rain. Made me mad put it in my closet and bought a different amp. It a backup now if it works.🤬👍👌✌️💯

@@josephsaucedo8691 I would be so pissed if mine had been left in the rain.

@@scottbe1 yup I was perty mad I no the mail service probably did it but to not get any reply was a complete disappointment down4soud could at least ask for a picture then told me to open it and run it. I probably would of order more stuff from them but seeing I not the only one I dought it. Thanks for your time and reply have a great day 👍✌️💯🎵🎶

I wouldn't buy a damn volt meter from that Clown JP

Hey bro I've been running the JP8 since last July on a sundown sa classic 12. Killer amp. The knob is badass

This would be fine. And by aligning the port lenght + diameter to the Thiele & Small parameters we would see less woofer blowing up.

Other subs handle the same. Look at the abuse db ask him to put there subs through. 5 min 40hz at max rms. Thats is a true test

Rusty address it himself this dude Parker is a clown 🤡

​@@cin5cin1nat3iu mad bro that Parker knows more than you

@@rubenavila8012 he doesnt know anything he just test subs he a clown like you 🤣

@@rjgambino9859 Yeah larger box decreases power handling by heaps brah, love my 3000rms woofer being a lousy 1500rms. Must be a shitty coil i guess.

One more reaaon why it migh have burned - the coil was jumping out of the gap, respectivly - it heats up when it is out of the gap

i use to run dc audio for 2 years for the 2 years im not going to lie i abused them from the moment i got them i even clipped them doing car shows. they took the abuse untill i got new ones and im sure if i reinstall them they would still work

No but I need to!

I wonder If its going to be hard to get products from Russia.

Yeah exactly!!! I love the channel and all but you can't put all these subs in the exact same enclosure and expect to get fair results!!! I suspected this was the case too until I read your comment and then checked the specs to this sub myself and yeah your correct. With that said, I still do believe that this sub should have handled it better though, but it is not a completely fair test either

@@bearxbunny1835 running a sub almost twice its recommended will decrease the rms rating a lot actually.

@@apocalypse4720 yeah, thats what i meant, If the box is too big it will mess up your power handling significantly. Not all subs are meant to go in the same size enclosure and that's why his tests are quite flawed

@@bearxbunny1835 not at all if you are running at half power then this would be ok but full power like you said

@@apocalypse4720 yes it would be, but he's running this at full tilt in a box thats way too big and that's why it shredded. I'd you don't have enough power to run it then you put the sub in an oversized box to compensate and maximize efficiency.

Or you could send them b2 12s to me lol😉🤞🏼🤷🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤣💯

That is so cool of you bro!

Please lol there's like no videos of them out there.

The lesson that was learned is that you cant just load a woofer in any box and they will hold up. Enclosure was way too big for this woofer and thats why it blew. Running almost double the volume almost drops the rms rating by half.

@@apocalypse4720 that's the regular size enclosure for a average 12 in that power range that's sub just couldn't hang with the big boys at the most expensive price too

Yeah it was definitely a nice sub but $1000 is steep for sure

@@ParkerTheBasshead most def man my entire set in my daily cost less than that including 2 sets of d4s 6.5 which are amazing !

@@rjgambino9859 Free airing it and clipping it just because its in a larger box LOL. Does that mean when a DD1 or an amp that shows zero clipping that the sub is actually clipping? no. The sub literally has loading from the enclosure, its not free airing just because its 1cft over.

@@duca1991 I understood what he was saying, it's got way too much space in the box, so it won't take much power similar to when free air. The wording "pretty much" kind of summed that up for you though.

@@rjgambino9859 yep with that being said wy did the woofers befor it survive?? had to be built realy realy well...?? but 1.5 cubs is dumb to me

@@rjgambino9859 I havnt deleted anything? Is the red light on during the 45hz test tone when it blows? Nope.

@@rjgambino9859nah I'll leave em disabled, 140 videos from when I was young, don't want fuckheads like you looking at them. Do you want the link to my old facebook page I had for my old bass car? Iv sold it on and gave the kid the page. When I had it it had 2 pride s5 18s on 2 7500s. The kid is now putting UFOs in it soon in that same wall you seen me driving in.

Yeah exactly! I’ve even put 7k bursts through much cheaper subs and they were just fine

Omg!!!!!!!!

I put over 6k on my X15v3 for db test, 5 times In 5 minutes and it wasn't even warm. This could be an isolated case, maybe the person that build that coil was having a bad day.

👒

Its crazy how people come up with so many excuses when the rockvilles smoked there no talk of enclosures or box size, i think people are prideful and dont want to except they spent a grand on a sub and couldve gotten just as good if not better for half the price , i guess it is upsetting

If every sub had coil failure, you're doing something wrong

LOLOL

Then why was the made in America one the one with the damaged box? 🤔🤔🤔

@@GiDD504 what deaf bonce is made in America hmmm? They're made in Guangdong China bub

He also blew a ZV6 or whatever sundown big sub is.. on his 8k not clipping..

DC isn't at the top I don't even know if they are top 3 or top 5....

Top Dog = Sundown

@@Bassotronics dc is on another level over sundown. It's like how sundown is on another level over skar. Most people who have both sundown and dc subs done right will agree.

@@Bassotronics Maybe for you but top dog for me it's the Holees 15, a sub that all companies try to copy and that the JL W7 tried copying only to be 1/10th the size... I'm not going to get into a internet argument over what sub is better as you have your standards just like I have mine! You may like Ford where I like Jeep and is a prefect example of "What works for you doesn't necessarily work for me!" I'm not chasing DB Numbers and I don't want a power hungry sub that has Iron ferrite as it's motor material requiring more electromagnetic force (wattage supplied) to be equivalent to a higher force motor made of Cobalt, strontium or neodymium with less power applied. Iron ferrite, though good for temperature tolerances is rather weak in the magnetic field comparison to the others I mentioned and is why you need 2x, 3x, 4x, 5x or more actual material. Let's just leave it at you liking Sundown and I don't follow trends....

@@goldeneagle7559 Amen and Awomen. 🙏🏼

I was gonna say, DC uses smaller air space than most... The larger enclosure probably played a part in failure. I enjoy Parkers videos, but he might want to go the extra mile and build an enclosure for each woofer to spec. I think Orion did a video showing how their woofer lasts the longest on a tone vs 4 or 5 others and they used the same enclosure on all woofers. It's not a fair race.

1.5 cubic for a 12 is a waste of time is better I run a 10 inch sub smh

and at 1k for a12 that subich had beter be in a all dam steel box in a wooden box coverd in vibrainium fused plastic

Can you still get DNRs?

My m2 DC 18 came in a wood box completely screwed together when I ordered it directly from DC. Either D4S shipped it in their own box or DC is slipping