Tails going through a Winter Soldier type arc would be WILD

I hate the “Tails is dead” theory because everybody fails to realize that the good ending has both of them in the sky.

“Kid”: *Gasp* Dad, what if I die this time and we make me no-clip into walls. Father: What the fuck.

When I saw "Sonic isn't blue" with the picture of a red Sonic, I thought the theory was going to be that he was so fast he was blue shifted.

the original sonic movie design was based on the realism that the TMNT 2014 and Transformers movies had with their characters, paramount assumed there wouldn’t be hate since those movies made bank, which is why it couldn’t be a publicity stunt, but rather a misdirection by the studio and OG design merch lol

The reason why sonic arms look like a sleeve is because in the 3-D games it’s hard to animate, which is the reason why he has blue arms in Sonic Boom and the sonic movies

My theory : tails can't die and he's immortal. However every time he dies and respawns, he loses peices of his memory wich is why hes a coward in the newer games

4:56 I heard in a video that I don't remember the name that there was a more finished 06 build, however it was so unstable and crashed so much that they had to release an earlier, less finished build to meet SEGA's deadline

Mario IS Sonic. Mario wears a hedgehog suit like the tanooki and frog, ect...

5:38 fun fact: sega did actually release the wrong version: When they finally “finished” sonic 06, they tried to test the game, but everytime they tried to run it, it kept on crashing, so they scrapped that old version, and rushed to make a new one

Guys... I think Sonic is a Sonic I know, it sounds crazy

The Eggman setting up all the trap in the levels is actually somewhat canon to Sonic CD (at least in concept art). The increasing amount of mechanical traps as the levels progress represent Eggman's increasing control of Little Planet, with Stardust Speedway and Metallic Madness being completely under his control. Its a really cool form of silent storytelling and I'm surprised it was never brought back for any of the games.

I don’t buy the Yuji Naka being sent to kill Sonic theory. Thing is, if he was sent to SEGA to sabotage Nintendo’s competition, wouldn’t he have started from the very beginning? Since he was the programmer for Sonic 1, I think he would’ve intentionally made the game bad in order for the game to not be the commercial success that it still is today. So, yea, this theory doesn’t have any weight. I don’t know if anyone actually bought this one, but if you did, well, you have all of the evidence you need to prove that it’s false. I just wanted to engage with the video a little bit. 👍

The old movie Sonic design was weird and when I first saw I was like they are going on a wrong path. The new design made me a lot more happy.

"Give me a part 2 now" I want more of this

Eggman DID intentionally place the level hazards, springs, bumpers, etc. in most Sonic games, and has admitted to it a handful of times. He even did so in the Sonic OVA. Also yes, they DID release the wrong build of Sonic 06. Kind of. The game went gold and went into production much earlier than the last known build of the game (which is the Xbox Live Arcade demo of Sonic 06, released about a month before the game launch, and much more similar to the one seen at E3 2006). The XBLA demo has all of these features present, including the dynamic day/night cycle, better physics, a homing attack with SA2 styled downward arc, normal spinjumping on enemies would do damage, etc. It actually DID play well in that demo. Unfortunately, the game we got is about 3 months older than the build date on the XBLA Demo. I still have a copy of this demo, which I will pick up from time to time. Polygon Jim once started integrating features from this demo into the final game, but it didn't get too far, as he unfortunately died in a car accident some years ago.

WHAT IF THIS WHOLE TIME SONIC WAS PORCUPINE INSTEAD OF A HEDGEHOG???

For the sonic 06 conspiracy theres some information you left out. Halfway through the game yuji naka was kicked off the team and they lost a whole bunch of progress which is why the game isnt as good as it looked in the trailers and what not.

the theory about sonic and his friends being a bunch of kids playing and pretending with their older parent/guardian being eggman is so cute. I really want to see this as some sort of alternate concept because i love how endearing it is.

About the Sonic '06 thing, they DID release an unfinished build, but it was on purpose. They definitely had later builds of the game made, but they were very unstable and probably unbeatable. Retail '06 is just the closest thing they had to something acceptable beyond demos.

Also, Infinite and Tails are separate species despite being canines. Infinite is a jackal, while Tails is a fox. Also, Sonic 2(Master System) is a spin-off game of Sonic 2(Genesis). Same goes for Sonic The Hedgehog, where instead of being a port of the original game, it's built from the ground up and introduced new concepts, like picking up emeralds from the ground instead of from a special stage. Also, the spikes could be placed just by a former civilization, like Hydrocity Zone. In media, booby-traps are a common trope when it comes to visiting ancient ruins. Also, the ghosts from Sonic and Knuckles's "Sandopolis Zone Act 2" don't work for Eggman since they're in a capsule, until Sonic broke it, therefore releasing them. They also don't drop any animal compared to Eggman's robots meaning that they are ghosts and not metallic creations.

My personal favorite is the idea that Honey and Fang are the Sol Dimension counterparts of Shadow and Rouge respectively. Absolutely no proof whatsoever, but the idea of stoic-and-withdrawn Blaze fighting against this silly fashionista cat is a fun parallel to Sonic and Shadow. The two of them are also some of the only characters to not really care about the Chaos Emeralds, Fang just wanting to sell them off to find them for nice reward most of the time while Honey just uses them as a means to an end so she can take care of the Death Egg 2 entirely to get more promotion for her fashion business. Very silly and fun to think about.

For the Yuji Naka Theories, you should have mentioned that he was recently arrested and jailed for insider trading. Meaning he was dealing with other companies and selling secrets. That would have added a TON of weight to those theories.

For Sonic 06, I heard they had to release an older build of the game because the newer build was unstable which couldn't be fixed in time. I'm not sure how true this is though.

I swear when it comes to video ideas, you know every single one lol

Wait is that @redhotsonic ? In thumbnail is that You?

So, I've thought about the "Infinite is broken Tails from 8-bit Sonic 2" one for a bit, and I've come to an interesting conclusion: The 8-bit games happened in an alternate timeline, and when the Phantom Ruby appeared into our timeline, seemingly unsupported by even reality as Silver's future seemingly fell apart "in real time" as it was introduced, one of the first instances of reality-breaking may have been Eggman making contact with his 8-bit-verse self and taking his Tails for some of his "modern Eggman" technology; an arms exchange. This explains perfectly why Infinite lacks the second tail, his inferiority complex, and special seeming hatred for Sonic. He let him down, the first friend he ever truly had. Where was his hero? His thirst for destruction being him lashing out his hatred against everything is reframed as something despicably tragic instead of more plain evil.

He also breaks the fourth wall in sonic unleashed when he looks at the camera and says did I fall on him at the start of the game

The sonic being human therory kinda implies these kids know: -what aids is -child death and governmental conspiracy -

17:37 its always the good ending thats canon, so this is not likely, like you said

My conspiracy theory: I think Yuji Naka is cursed. Every single project he touches either has bafflingly odd decisions made for it, has something weird or bad outside of his control happen to it, or both. There’s always a monkey paw with everything he touches, especially the Sonic series, which he created. Considering the guy has always been kind of a jerk, I wouldn’t be surprised of someone put a hex on him or something lol.

for the theory where tails is dead, I think its a relative of tails, who joined sonic to get revenge on Eggman.

The "Tails is dead" theory is an old MatPat theory

For some added context on the 06 theory: the reason why the tech demos generally look better is because those demos had separate teams with separate deadlines, so they had time to make improvements to various gameplay functions. But these tech demos were on 360, and the main platform was PS3 (since they’re Japanese obv) so these changes and fixes were never brought into the main development build of the game Matt McMuscles talked about this in his what happened video for Sonic 06, shoutouts to him

The 06 build theory is definitely not real, pre-release footage used an earlier build that they lost access to. The two theories on this are that they had a hard drive catastrophe due to a power outage or that the build was later used for Secret Rings (since that was originally the wii port of 06). The latter makes a lot of sense, given a lot of the themes of the game in general and some aspects from the early build being in it. This same situation happened for Sonic X-Treme where it ended up using the Nights engine, and Yuji Naka forced them to stop using the engine, based on Sega's policy on internal tech usage.

with the sonic 2 tails dead theory i always get annoyed cause if that constelation means that tails is dead then what about the good ending? you know, where sonic and tails constelations appear

Since i was a kid, i always assumed that eggman put all the obstacles. Thinking it was unspoken lore. I mean, he has robots all over the place, is it that far of a reach to think he also put the spikes?

i feel sorry for tails .

Ah yes, conspiracies, some are scary, specially the more obscure or bad ones

Dude you’re actually getting so good at KZfaq, I’m surprised you’re not at 100k yet bro! Keep it up!

Bro wtf google assistant launched on my phone when u said hey google 17:20

It's crazy to think that ppl think Sonic's world is made by eggman

everyone knows sonic is a nice shade of crimson, where do you think the nickname "red hot sonic" comes from?

The build that was more finished couldn't work for the 360/PS3, and yes, it has been stated to be the case. I doubt Nintendo cared enough to go and sabotage X-Treme.

Funny part Sonic in the comics is blue because of the chaos emeralds but when he has his power taken he is brown

I absolutely love the 06 build theory. It's answers so many questions about the game and I don't see much proof against it.

Naka didn't have to be paid to sabotague STI. He simply hates Americans with passion. And Mircosoft are to blame for rushing '06.

The fact that the "HES NOT BLUE" is the biggest thing we can see on the thumbnail 😂

A theory I heard was that the alpha build of 06 kept crashing so they had to use an earlier build and the xbox live demo is supposed to be built upon the alpha build which is why it has so many differences including not having the standing on the side of wall glitch. I cant seem to find any evidence for this. someone suggested that they built the demo afterwards with some improvements but if thats the case why would they not patch out any of the glitches that were apparently fixed in the demo. The only reason they wouldn't do that is that the build used in the demo is different to the one in the game.

Another proof that debunks the "Tails is dead" theory is the good ending of sonic 2 8-bit, which shows Sonic and Tails in the Sky.

12:07 People say that sonic had a rough transition to 3D with SA1..................... imagine how it would be with X-treme.............

Every mainline character in the series after Project Shadow was meant to prevent the echidnas from going extinct (with the exception of the characters from the Sol Dimension)

17:07 why did you trigger my Google assistant man :(

Regarding the '06 build, in software development the latest build with the most features is usually the less stable one. Stuff you add needs to be tested rigorously to assure it does not break the entire program in some manner. The build Sonic Team ended up releasing was obviously not the one that had the most work put into it, but it was most likely the last stable one they had. Now, I know many would love to say "Sonic '06 stable? Haha, are you kidding?" But regardless the game can be completed from start to finish with no crashes or major softlocks. Sure, Silver can stun lock you, but it's not like you're dealing with a dead save.

Imagine if some kid was imagining IDW. "Ok, kids, what are we gonna do today." "Well this time we'll have Whisper's team be killed by their former teammate, and then we're gonna show that Whisper completely rewrote her personality because it was so traumatizing. But then the evil teammate's gonna come back so Whisper's gonna kill him."

Bro you uploaded this on the last day of my 7th grade year, what a coincidence, great video btw.

During Halloween, will you talk about sonic. EXE

4:49 Marble and hilltop are volcanic. But egg man did partially create his world. As the game progresses, robotnik’s power over the world. Labrynth is the bottom of the island so it’s the last old structure in sonic 1. Afterward, is starlight which is his and scrap brain. The third act of scrap brain is labyrinth because it was mechanised by robotnik. 18:41 This game was de-canonised by origins.

So I don’t no when I’m pumping out the sonic colors ultimate review I’m trying to make short videos so when I find time summer break is coming but I’m probably not gonna have much time there either so I’ll try making the sonic ultimate review when I can. Thanks again for letting me use your footage.

Sonic also had brown fur in one of the Archie comics showing his origins

You actually did turn off my lights with that "Hey Google" part. But joke's on you, my ceiling light isn't Googlified!

Even if tails did die in game gear sonic 2 that isn’t the canon ending so it’s moot either way

About the theory of Sonic 2, I remember hearing that after that bad ending of the game, Sonic 3 from Sega Genesis continues, and that all the phases represent the phases of the duel, that's all I remember because I heard that in a video years ago but I think it's better than just saying that the tails of the other games are imaginary and that's it, obviously the theory is still not credible but I like the other one better, I don't know.

I just started playing sonic mania on my iPhone and I love it

11:23 although maybe it is real since sonic has mentioned in frontiers about the spinning sign or giant gold ring being his goal, and theres no in-universe explanation of it, so maybe they do know their in a game, and they got hired by sega to do it

Cool Video Bro!

i think the last theory is likely because tails was this awesome kid in sa1 and 2 and suddenly in all of the other games he's just this scared guy he doesnt mean anything and the reason tails was so confused in sonic forces because he was reading about himself when infinite beat up sonic and eggman probably used the timestones and went to the bad ending of sonic 2 8 BIT and stole that tails from there and turned him into infinite*

10:36 “this whole fourth wall breaking thing started in the 2010’s” Incorrect sonic has been barking the forth wall since day one. Knew that and still got it wrong.

1:04 that’s why KZfaq removed dislikes

About the Movie Sonic theory, not only that, but the studio of the company responsible for the redesign had to close their doors due to lack of funding afterward. The backlash was so mass, and the redesign so costly, that an entire studio had to shut down. About the 06 Build theory, it's not impossible. When True Crime: Streets of New York was released, they accidentally released an earlier build for the Xbox version, which is why it's buggier and practically impossible to complete compared to the other versions.

Not only when you keep stopped, but also when you die, he looks straight to the player with a face kinda like "The hell you doin'?" Like he's mad for you letting him die in the game

Great Video, and maybe do a Part 2?

its said that yuji naka sabotaged x-treme beacause he wanted the 3d sonic game to be made by sonic team(sonic adventure)

this video made me laugh! good video dont get me wrong but some of these theories are downright crazy bro

Even entertaining the idea that Nintendo somehow got Sonic Extreme cancelled is so stupid. Like, there’s no actual evidence, and stuff like Crash Bandicoot released BEFORE Mario 64. The only actual evidence being “Nintendo is scummy sometimes” is really dumb. Not to mention that the actual reason it got cancelled is very well documented. EDIT: And the Yuji Naka stuff?? Seriously?

Also in the good ending of Sonic 2 game gear/master system, sonic and tails are the sky

17:19, the dry delivery made this way funnier than it otherwise woulda been.

Also let’s not forget, (regarding “Ugly Sonic being a marketing plan”) the Vancouver, Canada division of Moving Picture Company (the VFX company behind the Sonic Redesign) had to shutdown which according to workers who were laid off was because of: crunch times of 17-hour days (w/ no days off), “external marketing pressures”, and other opportunities made sustaining the studio difficult

If you ever make a sequel to this video, please cover the theory of SA2 being all inside Knuckles head, I remember that thing actually messed me up as a kid and I couldn't play SA2 the same way for a while

6:37 I would just like to say that the build we originally got of Origins before updates wasn’t actually the finished build. They actually released the wrong build so it is actually likely that they did that with 06 too.

For the second theory. One word: MOBIUS. It’s a whole different planet. Maybe Eggman placed all those spikes and other stuff for warnings, but maybe it was before Sonic came along to rebel against him.

Wasn’t the final build of 06 based on an older version because their best build was unstable and crashed a lot so they had to use an older and more stable build because of the deadlines? Pretty sure there’s even a page about it in the Lost Media wiki. The thing about Eggman creating/altering Sonic’s world could make sense in-universe,irl it’s because Hilltop Zone was supposed to be an ancient stage (when Sonic 2 was still about time travel) which is why there’s lava and dinosaur-like enemies.

The idea of the cast being just kids imaginations because "we can't control Sonic at the speed of sound" is weak as hell. Using a gameplay mechanic to explain why that theory somehow works doesn't make sense when you think about it either; when you hit the sound barrier, you create a sonic boom. Sonic wants to protect nature and most of the levels take place in nature. A sonic boom would damage and destroy said nature, so Sonic naturally doesn't go *that* fast. You can see this in the opening to Sonic CD. Sonic runs fast, but not fast enough to do damage, but as soon as he lands on the chain leading to Little Planet, he just fuckin' *GOES'. Since if his speed let off a boom there, it wouldn't damage anything, not even the thick chains. Lets not even touch what Archie Sonic can do lol.

I have a sonic theory. it's that sonic doesn't need a story he just runs fast and loop de loops his way into your heart.

Used to believe the publicity stunt thing, but I never knew just how much info we had about things before the redesign

Technically the one who breaks the 4th wall most of the time is Sonic so he seems he's the one self aware

If there's one Sonic character that I think for sure knows they're not real, it's Sticks. She interacts with the audience in a bigger way than Sonic did in the games, telling them that they missed off-screen plot points or telling them to keep watching the show.

Dam, that "Hey Google" got me 😂

sonic used to be orange.

Manuals differing from games is common. They are written during production

11:33 There's a moment in Sonic Frontiers that goes something like this Sage: What is your end goal? Sonic: It depends, sometimes it's a spinning sign, sometimes it's a big 'ol ring It's kinda funny

Fun fact: one of the project leads on Sonic Xtreme got so sick to the point where he was told he only had six months left to live- thankfully he survived. Now imagine that the Nintendo theory is true. Nintendo would've caused a man to nearly die because of their competitive sabotaging. That would be hilariously dark lol

Remember Mario 64 was released on a build that didn’t have optimization turned on, so it suffers from performance issues. I wouldn’t put it past devs to accidentally release the wrong build.

i've always seen hilltop as a volcanic area as it full of lava

I love the "sonic movie model" conspiracy cause it comes from a place of trying to give paramount too much credit. Yeah, I'm sure they're gonna release the real version of the Knuckles tv show that isn't 80 percent Wade Whipple any day now.

10:43 And in Sonic Boom (The TV Show), Eggman’s security camera IS the camera we see through

Awesome video

4:40 You ever hear of a series of volcanic islands known as Hawaii? Granted, nothing about Marble Garden makes sense, but Hill Top is obviously a volcanic mountain. Some volcanos have plant life growing on them after periods of inactivity.

Nice video!

I also refuse to believe that it was a publicity stunt. There's also a lost trailer of the FIRST Sonic movie trailer and the design for that one was a lil bit worse. I mean if the current design was planned before making ugly Sonic, why even go as far as remaking TWO trailers (possibly the movie) with ugly designs JUST to get attention for a movie that was highly anticipated and wanted baldy since it was rumored???