I'm a Veteran I fought for ALL Americans and for all humans to have a chance at freedom. Period Anything less is unconstitutional

The military is a lot like going to jail or being a ward of the state. When your time's up they just kick you out on your ass with whatever you have. Even if you have nothing

“The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.” - Thucydides

“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.” G. Carlin

This is why I have always believed that the military should have a transition period for soldiers getting out if the military. A group to help them decompress and adjust to civilian live and also help them find jobs. It would also be smart to do this with prisoners. It could really go a long way with preventing them from reoffending.

I'm a disabled Veteran from a military family, being born on an Army base. My mother's ancestors fought for the Union my fathers the Confederacy. I've never I heard either side bemoaning how many "Aryans" have died in support of our military. The basis for the majority of this bigotry and racism is family orientation. My father's side most certainly expressed racist and prejudiced views, my mothers had little to no contact with people of other races, so they harbored minor levels of prejudice, because there are frequently reasons for stereotyping, and it frequently results in prejudice born of ignorance. Because white men are being bombarded with the "replacement narrative more and more are going too far right. I believe a level of Civil War (disintegration) is inevitable and likely not far away.

I spent 6 years in the Marine Corp. Please understand this a very, very small group of people that does not represent our core values/ethos. We threw a quadcon party for the last guy that said something stupid (no, it’s not an actual party). Kinda feel like this reporting groups all the good in with the bad in a dishonest way.

Man I'd be so uncomfortable in those chairs

Sooner or later it’s gonna pop off and it’s gonna be so ugly everywhere, this country has been through so much, it’s so scary that’s it’s only a matter of time before the real life “Division” actually happens

You served for freedom, not to take it away from others

4:09 Mr "Honor my oath in the Coast Guard" JFC 😄😄😄

I have seen these video in the last few years .is it uploading again ?

When I was younger I thought the boog bois was just gun owning shitposters...ohh how things have changed

They were bad apples before they came in. A few hundred knuckle draggers cannot be the face and voice of the countless hundreds of thousands who have served honorably.

I worked around white supremacists for so long. 24 years. It' gave me permanent anxiety. It's hard to trust people now.

I remember years ago there was a video of a gang member shooting at police in the street. My dad seen it and said he's slicing the pie, it was obvious that guy had some weapons training. later learned This guy was an active gang member who went to the military so he took his redefined skills back to the streets. This has been happening for a long time.

Hey Vice, hire a couple of journalists or collaborate with freelance journalists who have served in our military. Service members (SM) from different branches have different perspectives as well, and the active duty experiences of a Marine, Soldier, Sailor, and Airman will be different. A combat arms SM will have a different experience than combat support. That will give you a much better look into this fringe movement. I just don't think Ben has any idea what he's talking about when he postulates what is going on in the military, or what is going on in the head of a SM before, during, and after their service.

Extremism and often even gang-affiliated membership in the military isn’t new - but they also are a minority.

The pentagon shouldn't be investigating american citizens on american soil... that's the domain of the police and FBI. The US military should never be used against its citizens.

14:47. It's not a marsoc symbol the ss was for scout snipers

Honestly this just makes me sick. They use the oath we swore to as a means to manipulate.

Would be interesting to see more reformed people.

I never had this problem when I was in the military!

The racist friends we had in the military made it all the better lol. We had a white nat and black supremacy Corpsman crew and it was beautiful, some of the finest men to serve by

I wonder also if maybe run of the mill racists are attracted to joining the military. There is an uncomfortable relationship between extreme patriotism and xenophobia.

As a military child who grew up during all of this. Both me and my older sister did. We fortunately got out of our home before our dad’s extremism had gotten worse. He’s a former lt colonel in the army and has gotten more radical since he’s gotten out and he got my younger brother to join to follow his footsteps. I hear the subtle white supremacy in both their words and it concerns me. I wish be would talk to some children who’s parents were active duty during the most intense parts of the war on terror. I know several who now have had to back off due to their parents views getting worse. Just something I think might help shed some light

Can you imagine if there was more of an appreciation for the individual serving while criticizing the system it’s self?

Just going to say that the majority of the military receives little to no tactical combat training. Careful how you generalize your comments.

Do a episode on bush secret declassified meeting of him knowing about the terror attack years b4 it happened.

Crazy how every "complaint" in the comments section ("how do you define 'extremist?'" and "it's a small number!") is explicitly addressed in the video. Almost like the commenters didn't watch the video in good faith...

I've seen 2 III percenter stickers on the back of cars in the past 2 months and one was yesterday

It doesn't matter if the wars were popular. If you train enough people that violence and killing is the solution to foreign political problems, when they come home they will believe that violence and killing is the political solution in the USA.

Question, if all the men who are there to say "I don't believe in what your saying but I'll give my life to defend your right to say it" are being isolated from your society who will protect your freedoms when push comes to shove? Edit: supporting the police is rasim now? When your getting robbed/bashed/raped/whatever don't complain when there is no one to help you because you defunded them and told them they are the enemy.

Toxic wasnt the right word, Volatile is the formal and proper word. 17:00 and media always makes it out to look worse than it really is, pure skepticism here.

14:48 - citation needed

Far Cry 5?

Inside The Military's Extremism Problem | Field Notes It must be difficult for people who have not served in our military to fully understand what such experience is like. I served in the Marine Corps in the early 1980’s (Cold War) in the MOS of 4421; Legal Services Specialist. It was an easy admin job compared to most other jobs in the Corps. My duties dealt with typing up charge sheets for courts-martial or Article 15 hearings, JAG Manual investigations, filing documents, researching base orders, etc., all before personal computers were introduced. I saw a lot of abuse of power and some cover-ups to protect officers’ carriers. What a didn’t see was extremism. Yes, there was some self-segregation based on race during off-time, but racism was not prevalent. Ben pointed out extremism increases when troops return home from combat. Perhaps this is why I didn’t see extremism or racism during my time in service which was a time of relative peace. Starting in boot camp, I recall our drill instructor saying to us “There are no black Marines or white Marines. There are only green Marines. Some are light green and some are dark green but our blood is red and we are brothers one and all.” or words to that effect. Racism was not tolerated. Professor Kathleen Belew of Northwestern University observed “we know how it works, we just don’t have the real-time information to know exactly where we are.” Around 2010, while working for a government services contractor, I recall a warehouse worker was fired for accessing a porn site on a government computer. By then, computers were ubiquitous, and access were controlled by use of a common access card (CAC), which identifies who is logged onto a computer. And I recall our systems administrator cautioning us with “Every keystroke is recorded somewhere.” The point is the DoD has the capability to identify who embraces extremist views. The DoD can identify the enemy within. Ben said “The Senate Armed Services Committee literally put a stop to it. They put a line in a budget this year to direct the Pentagon to stop looking into this. And to stop putting funds into this.” This is surprising to me. However, I could not find the legislation he is referring to. Something I did find of interest is a Congressional Research Service paper titled FY2022 NDAA: Extremism in the Military IN11779 (congress.gov)

I remember I went to basic training in 2004 there was about 4 guys that never seen a black person I couldn't comprehend it

who would have thought. Nationalists going in and out of the national service. Yikes.

Very horrendous!!!

I have recently made a point of thanking soldiers in uniform when I see them in my community. Being in the military is a tough job and thankless. I see how soldiers can become disillusioned and the natural extension of joining an extremist movement. Thank you Vice.

Great video, thanks for reporting on this.

Ya dude

am I the only one who thinks ben is vasyl lomachenko's lost brother?

If the Republican party believes the military has a PR problem from all these negative reports coming out, maybe the Senate Armed Services Committee should not have barred that budget line to investigate the issue. The US government has always been accused of a transparency and accountability problem, so why should the largest, most expensive military in the history of the world also not be held to their own account? If the perception of extremism is truly what is hurting their enlistment numbers, maybe they need to be providing concrete evidence of its real prevalence instead of just hinting at its extent? And maybe it might be more to the point that military service and the benefits it claims to provide are not offering much of a sustainable, prospering lifestyle and career path as it once did.

Former Combat Medic..."love my Country....hate my government."

About 4:03 - He will honor his oath to the Constitution?

Vice News turned off comments on their trans kid video and not this. Biased much?

These are the guys who took $1200 instead of the GI Bill.

Video is 21:59 minutes long and hate-watchers are already bashing it within less than 10 minutes. 😳

i didnt hear a single interview by a soldier or a veteran. pretty much bias content by these interviewee's

Two years of college should be required to join the military…. Then boot camp

It’s very sad but this country will collapse soon because of these people. I won’t be surprised to see a civil war within my lifetime. All of them are armed too, & very few of us are. It’s going to be a sad century for America. 🇺🇸💔

Field notes is a great series

Why are you guys re uploading this like 2 weeks later

the us needs mandatory military service like switzerland has

They might have good experience with the life stories of military people who joined those racist orgs, but they don't seem to express much experience with the life stories of people who join the military generally.

I wonder to see Georgian flag 🇬🇪 on that guys vest at 2:59, 😅

Reuters published an investigation (May) tracking ex-military extremists training police.

Y’all blind as hell.

I spent 16 years in the USN. 8 of those years in Iraq. If you were there and didn’t come home with a left mindset you didn’t pay attention.

Dudes got the devil tatted on his neck…. Great guy 😂

Ye is right

Thank you Michael Learmonth

1:18 He's part of a miniscule fraction of dudes, almost certainly an article 15 (dishonorable discharge). Y'all can chill, this genius is all over the radar of the good guys.

Lets put this in perspective. All militaries are breeding grounds for extremism. That's why you hear about military coups. As you said at the beginning of the program, it is a small problem in the US. I presume every other country (eg Germany) has a similar problem and it has to be managed.

U.S. Police Departments

HAMMER IS BASED

This may be a real problem...but Vice probably isn't the group to handle it well

Imagine committing treason while calling yourself patriot.

Go Woke Go Broke Vice.

Dude, dude, dude, dude is as intimidating as his black cowboy hat, hat, hat, hat.

That episode Vice did 'Inside America's Largest Far Right Militia' about a group of old obese 3%'s getting drunk in a forest in Georgia shooting guns was hilarious and scary at the same time. The comment section was particularly funny.

"Old news-" Native American....".really old news!"

The narrative being spin again not all veterans turn out that way. Soldiers, Marines, Sailor, and Airmans are not make on production lines. If you have problems before joining the service and the problem will continue after you get out.

There's no extremist problem in the military. There are millions of people who served in the military. Even if a few hundred both in and out have embraced radical ideas that's still a extreme minority. I mean there are teachers, farmers, fast food servers who have embraced the same ideology but no one is like look out for teachers. But just looking at the dude who ran this segment it's clear why there's jealousy and therefore false hatred towards something most VICE readers could never do or understand

If they want to live amongst their own, i don't see a problem with it. Build your compound, keep it peaceful and live your life 🤷🏽‍♂️

This All About Mind Control Remember The occult It's working both sides it's all about trying to push people in the something if everybody become one they'd have no chance😎

Just waitin' to invade Bejing like we kicked ass in Iraq!!

This is absolutely true! A lot of the nationalists go to military. This happens all over the world in all militaries

The current state of America's military reminds me of saying my boyfriend who's former military says a lot, "It's scary that nowadays as a black veteran I'm more afraid if I see someone flying the American flag then if I don't".

Jesus. The woman in this interview is the most masculine of the three. Thank the good Lord that Vice is going bankrupt.

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I think it’s more extreme to prosecute losing wars for 20 years that everyone covered up. But yeah, a few privates with access to M4s are the problems but not the MIC, Profiteers and buffoons in DC.

McVeigh was a lone wolf and was kicked out of the Michigan Militia for his radical beliefs more homework for you tell both sides if you report on a topic

15:02 blatantly wrong that was the symbol for Scout Snipers hence SS. They did not eventually become raiders that was 1st Recon you guys really need to look into specific units if you’re looking for extremism wink wink the seal teams.

Stop giving them a platform and only give the info about the groups. You know they are looking for a why to recruit

It’s actually a law that it should be a malitia that if the government started taking advantage of the ppl for their gains instead of being truthful or doing anything deceitful to either make them stop/resign or unalive them if necessary and appoint the right ppl for the jobs. ( not word for word but basically what I got from it )

Lol "I will honor my oath" To uphold and defend the constitution? Wheres this guys old CO?

American Native Founders Freedoms anyone?

4:15 Anti authoritarian isnt antigovernment

Literally saying that some people in the military have committed violent acts in the name of right wing extremism being at fault rather than the government who issued the orders. doing anything possible to put the blame on the average man rather than the government. Talk about cognitive dissonance. Who do you think gives the military the ok to carry out violence?

Where is “Master P and his Soul Patrol” little ARMY?

Vice news is a joke💀

What about CHAZ/CHOP 😭

---Important insite of the issue with military ---(very long but very informative for the issue)..5 years active army med retired are my credentials in relation to the matter....the military it self is not the cause or source of the extremism, in army race disappears we are all green, and what seeing is a side effect of the absolute machine that military is, ours is the most in sync highly optimized of machines all parts work in unison almost by nature, military is great and a great life surrounded by people you have absolute trust in even if don't know them, as any minute you could be relying on each other for your life and survival. if any task need be done in military for exp, everybody that's not otherwise engaged jumps into said task to complete it and get it done there's no oh no don't want do that and insert excuse to walk away etc, if someone needs help that help is only ever as far away as the next soldier, when joining the army it's hard to adjust to the machine as society the real problem today is way way to independent focused, and people tend more selfish then not, and you have a healthy distrust of others if dont know them and understandably so, so when join the initial training is so hard mentally to adapt because of our independent minds and ways, but as it progresses we get to trust other recruits more and more etc And by end your a 100% team minded individual, we need to promote individuality not independence humans from time immemorial have been a community tribe team family clan species and modern Society with all it's advances in tech and all, have literally taken the need for us to be as team focused and only self focused outside of family, and even family's are very distant or promoting independence today, and that is the straight opposite of military. Military is awesome in the sense you can walk around complete strangers say in a new post but they are also military then you can 100% not have to be distrustful guarded or reserved, that alone is such a freeing thing that even I didn't realize how much stress and negativity that is non existent due to that!! when being med retired and transitioning back, man society is what I can easily see radicalizing ex military, cuz we go from surrounded by team and trusted folks 24/7 to having to go on a alert mode akin to what we are at while down range , and the absolute selfishness and lack of that comradely alone is more then enough to trigger us it's complete culture shock we experienced it in reverse joining but being assimilated for x years then having to break from the hive is another total culture shock and one that we almost feel abandoned by, now add any disgruntled politcal protesting citizen, saying things that's basically further alienates all your service and compounds that loneness yeah it's not a healthy situation, politics are not the army and certainly not it's volunteered men and women who are citizens and arguably love the country far more then the political activist raging, should never blame or take anythjng politically charged and direct it at a servicemen/woman they couldn't of done anything about whatever it is no matter how much u think otherwise and more then likely we probably would agree with said activist on any legitimate issues the gov has, but instead of getting a ally in us the comments and tone come at us while we are already mindfucked and alone trying to readapt to this overly selfish way of life that is sickeningly inefficient compared to the military way of life, yeah efficiency we have a whole new reverence and its another teigger at first when things are done less so, and also sadly while in uniform alot of the country's people are great and shake hands buy meals and appreciate us and it feels great and makes one feel accepted if ya will, now being a veteran or retireee transitioning out, the uniform is gone, and that same acceptance is not there typically. there are those that if they know still do and y'all are truly beacons of light in the darkness of our figuring it all out again, but the lack of that now that we aren't actively servicing just further alienates our feelings and adds to the selfish society thing.... So a lot of the extremism that developes I can almost guarantee that it happens in the transition out, also mind not everyone is transitioning out cuz they want to, I got to serve 5 years and would of been for life, if didn't get cut short with medical retirement, so that makes that even uglyer a situation that we already feeling abandoned a bit by what we loved and committed to, to further face isolation ignorance misguided angers as we adapt back, it takes time for all of us some more then others so keep that in mind when you see a veteran or even one that's in a extreme group now, bet they faced a lot of what I spoke above and they got pushed right into the open arms of something familiar just desperate for acceptance but once accepted and in a family again please believe we are warriors and I would expect every warrior to fiercely defend their family be it blood or chosen wouldn't be much a warrior if didn't.. I mean the transition and having to relearn the selfish society again really in feeling is much like a cheating partner, it's the betrayal feeling expressly from something that you were committed to, our citizens forget that our military all of it members are committed to you all it's our oath and we are very proud of it we will gladly fight for and die for any one of the us citizens , (mind not the fuctards that are evil or being criminal for criminal sake why felons don't have same rights they aren't technically citizens in full standing anymore) so yeah your military and it's veterans are dealing with the blatant shock if our societys inefficientys and trying to not feel abandoned and betrayed it takes awhile to get our minds around it all so be understanding with us because trust even if we denie it we really do need the support and help during that period and the way we get treated during could easily affect us becoming a extremest or welcomed and functional member of society again.. hopefully this opens up a few eyes on it now I kept it very basic there are tons more nuanced issues etc but the heart of the situation I think is expressed above,. And sadly I don't think people realize how vulnerable we really are in that period I mean coming from. Years of war etc we must be beast etc and ya sure when our minds are healthy but we are wounded animals for the time being, don't provoke us, but offer us support and it will make so so much of a difference can promise this my oath as a soldier that as a retiree I still feel held to, as difference between vet and retirees is that retired members still maintain their rank veteran don't but they certainly deserve the respect their rank attained in service was, so yeah society needs a readjustment for sure and as we created society it's also on us to fix it we all can see lots of issues with society as a whole bitching about it not going do much but keep splintering people into sides etc, we need to come together as a whole and as a whole restructure and reorganize what society is , which sadly I don't see happening as it stands now but it's not impossible and he'll if we were a mandatory service country I could see it being achievable but the independence factor is so deeply in trenched it's both paradoxicaly it's strength and weakness and both it's gradual undoing and the x factor to change to save it. We humans sure are a paradoxical bunch of parasites arnt we... (Until we colonised off earth we are much more by definition parasite then anything else and that if you want touch into the ufo alien theory's and he'll a.i too y'all are welcome.... is why I can guarantee we haven't had mass contact yet, we are a planet of warlike and hostile to one another intelligent parasites, no alien race would want to bring such into the fold and neither would we, none of us would want to go jump into anywhere there's a parasite infestation and ones that are as smart and deadly as we, yep we have to stop fighting each other and become our next selves in our evolution, it's on us to unite and colonise space and give our host a much needed relief from us. Hell every single resource we could ever need is in our backyard the asteroid field, we have the technology now, if united as planet we could be colonizing the local system in next 30 years, when we work together in mass miracles are born, and ai scare? Make damn sure ai knows that there's is a resource abundance in said astroid field and they will never have to compete with us for resources which is the one scenario that guarantees all the A. I nightmares and scares they would efficiently remove us the obstacles to said resources but don't have to if we make push into space proper., And the combined wealth of elites and or the combined budgets of the now united nations of the planets defence forces could easily go into a basic living fund for all and crypto is already shown acceptance of a digital currency and that is the ticket to a basic living fund to work world wide ....Man I'm 35 tempted to make a new age presidency run need Kickstarter lol as no big corrupting family business or political ties to influence me or to lean on for funds in campaign.. man we could easily unite. Now we say Putin played bad guy intentionally seeing the way it would unite that part of world and allowing us to push it further to unite as one be would love that and drop back from war china would be absolute beast and nessisary on the manufacturing part and well the odd ball out is n Korea and well if all the world don't change them a astroid could be arranged to fix it space is just so darn unpredictable.... Lol. Ok I'm done for now.. unity is the way forward and key to our survival as species and yeah we always are our worst enemy and take our selves down it's maddening .

I believe the veterans

I think you all need to define what "extremism" and "far right" actually means in the context you're using it in. Because it kinda comes off like it's supposed to be vague and anyone who speaks out of line can get the label. And if we have a system that is driving people to distrust and feel disdain for the government in unprecedented numbers, do you think maybe there could be something rotten with the system that drives people to these conclusions?

These veterans that want to over throw the government have Tri Care healthcare, GI Bill benefits and pensions all paid by American taxpayers who will never have access to these benefits. There needs to be a post service contract of behavior that states if you become a "terrorist" you forfeit these benefits. If you are active duty there is no difference between these service people and previous service peoples in the government that were convicted of crimes of espionage.

We should send them NATO armaments like in Ukraine