Ever heard of the Amish?

I'm (un)impressed by how all that money could have been used to house and feed the homeless. What would Jesus say?

@@meself349 Jesus would tell you to stop moralizing & preaching on the internet & go do something for the homeless.

I remember watching it as it happened. So sad. This project is very encouraging for me.

I know! It seems just like yesterday. Time goes by too fast these days.

Why should we go spend millions for typhoon relief when we have homeless in America

Yeah I couldn't believe that it was 4 years back

Actually it didn't look like that 800 years ago. The whole cathedral was colored for instance (as many cathedrals in Europe in the Middle Age) and most of all, the building went through major make over in the XIXth century led by Eugène Viollet le Duc. The latter added the gargoyles and the spire we're rebuilding now. At that time, Romantic litterature made the Middle Age very fashionable (see Victor Hugo's novel) and those elements were considered to "look" medevial to the elites in the nineteeth centyry. Each era has its own representation of what the past was and of what to do with heritage I guess...

@@juliencharnay7479 Fair enough but the 3D models that we made by architects were way to modern to me with glass roofs and things hanging of of it. Idk Restoring how it was before the fire seemed liked the best option to me.

yes, you can see him at 3:38 with the tie over the shoulder. he was army general and he did a great work

"She" survived the fire? It's a structure, not a human being. Are you aware that homeless people living on the street get set on fire? It has happened many times. I was once a patient in a burn unit with a young black kid who was living in an abandoned van because he was homeless, with some other people. Somebody poured gasoline on them while they were sleeping one night and threw in a match.. He had like almost all of his body burned and was in excruciating pain. He used to stay up all night crying for the nurse because he was in such pain. Had to get extensive skin grafts. Do you even understand how homeless people suffer in general? Even when they don't get set on fire like this??? A lot of them freeze to death in the winter time and don't have enough food to eat and can't keep themselves clean and are basically treated like garbage by many people in this world. And are routinely the victims of violent crime And yet everybody is so happy that this cathedral was rebuilt. Really???? Just think of how many homeless people could have been fed and sheltered with that astronomical amount of money that they've put into this building. Are you for real??? And finally ......what would Jesus say?

Le problème viendra surtout du mobilier "liturgique" contemporain voulu par le clergé ... le projet est froid et triste !

a disgusting monument to Catholic Child Sex Abuse by the French. please stop censorship KZfaq.

​@@Eccoriens80What kind of furniture did they order? At least furniture is easier to rip out and replaced when smarter people prevail.

They will change some things

They have not changed Celibacy , Child Sex Abuse will continue. @@vecturhoff7502

Architects...

I imagine you loved the spire on the roof of Notre Dame. The original spire was removed in the late 1700s dues to damage and the new one added in 1859 (more than 600 years after the cathedral was constructed). There was no attempt to recreate the original spire. A building should reflect its history, not try to pretend nothing ever happened to it.

Rooftop was a good idea

Cultural vandals? really? To some people this monument (because of its relationship to the catholic church) represents hatred, bigotry, oppression, pedophilia, antisemitism, islamophobia, etc...

​@@manymany5076Doesn't matter; they can just get over it. They need to learn to not be so triggered over a cathedral or church. Its not exactly like Muslims have any room to criticize Catholics when it comes to being bigots and child groomers.

Les compagnons in France, die Wandergesellen in Germany and I am sure, many more in all european countries are still able to build cathedrals, castels and all sorts of historical buildings... remember Europe has been rebuilt after the last world wars, especially France, Germany, UK, Belgium...

​@@creamwobblyla plupart viennent de France ou des US donc non ça vient pas des 4 coins de la terre.

When you're talking about Paris, which one is it ? There are dozens in world. (i'm french)

1:48 She said Notre Dame de Paris.

There are also lots of white houses in the world. yet "The White House" to most people means a particular white house in Washington DC. Similarly, if you say just say "Notre Dame" people will generally assume you mean the one in Paris. Don't be so persnickety.

You must be permanently grief stricken at all the other churches in France that burn each week.

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Since we're being vulnerable in a safe space, I cried when the Twin Towers burned. I was younger then and thought it was only because I loved the buildings and the New York City skyline. It was more than that. The buildings can always be rebuilt, but the people can't.

@@dritemolawzbks8574 So true. I'm not an American but I've cried for the people but I must admit that in a sense, I also cried for the two towers and what they represent.

It's a waste of resources that could be applied to actually helping real humans eat.

@@failuretocommunicate people need to start watching what they buy/sign up to then . So many people claim poverty yet walk around with the latest iPhone, have the massive flat screen TV and so forth. I can't afford to put my fridge on, I haven't done for years but don't begrudge a landmark building from being repaired.

@@Original-q11 A landmark of oppressive religious filth that miraculously puts food on your table, pays your bills, and cures your medical conditions. Yeah. It's always your fault when religion screws you because it's a sin for you to own a cellphone or actually wear shoes and watch TV.

@@failuretocommunicate Yes, because the beauty of our surroundings and cultural icons is a "waste"

@@ZettyLad Yes indeed, the beauty of catholic blood-drinking filth.

Did you vote Brexit Steve?

​@@philtucker1224 how is that any of your business, anyway?

@@lukerinderknecht2982 hi Luke, thanks for taking an interest. As it happens I’m following the situation in Spain currently where a lot of Brit ex-pats many of whom voted Brexit apparently are now being faced with exit orders if they don’t take Spanish citizenship. Do you have a view on the situation?

Oui sans les Émeutes sans l insécurité 'sans l invasion migratoire cela serait le paradis. Chose que j ai connu jusqu en 1976. Je suis né en 1960. Mais c est 1981 qui est une date maudite pour la France tout viens de cette date tous les ennuis de la France viens' de cette date. Si vous aimez la France prier pour elle.

I watched another report from a broadcast in France and they said they should have most of the work done but there isn't much of an expectation to have the Notre Dame open or finished by the time the Olympics start.

Looks like about another five years of work there still, unless they go IKEA flatpack obviously..

Notre Dame will reopen its doors to the public on Sunday, December 8, 2024, the feast day of the Immaculate Conception.

@@philtucker1224the exterior of notre dame should look like notre dame for the Olympics, with less scaffolding. It will be re - opened for the cult on December 8, 2024. They are on time. The interior is almost done. There will have new restoration work on the exterior back (apse - chevet) of the cathedral, that was already needed before the fire. The stone of the apse is in bad state and need to be restored.

I was planning on going to Paris for a few days when I go to London in March. But with all the prep for the Olympics and Notre Dame not being done yet, I'm putting it off to when I go for Christmas markets in 3 years.

No bells in the “ flèche “

​@@jean-yvesmartin6934Actually there were 3 or more bells in the spire, I have no idea why they were put there, and have they been ringing, but there is a video of a guy who illegally climbed the spire, and you can have a good view of it from inside.

@@thealaristhere were some bells in the spire but rarely used because manual. (The bigger bells in the towers are connected with electronic)

Yes there were smaller bells in the spire but rarely used because manual.

@@CitronCassis Thanks

Yes, they chopped down 1500 oak trees to build it, so that is just so great.

it's the old plans

@@hofmannwaves1525 Yes. Of course. But I’m curious to know where those old plans were preserved and the story behind the plans.

@@renzo6490 the plans of all the French monuments are kept in the national archives, you can see the copies of these plans at the city of architecture and heritage in a dedicated museum in the 16th arrondissement of paris

Eugène Viollet-le-Duc

Plans are kept in archives! In all european countries, and copies are made so if an archive is destroyed (we had wars and revolutions in Europe, and fires, tempests, even earthquakes) there is always copies available. Almost all monuments in Europe have been rebuilt, France is even considering rebuilding the Tuileries palace...

Citadel.⚜

Why do you need to know?

From England……Germany……Italy……and France…!

It will shock you that the full name "United States of America" is generally shortened as "America", which confuses no one, but does give people an excuse to exercise some fatuous indignation.

Non, ce sont des belles équipes et des entreprises compétentes qui y travaillent. En revanche, le problème viendra du clergé qui se croit obligé de mettre du mobilier "liturgique" lunaire !

@@Eccoriens80Qu'entendez-vous par "mobilier liturgique lunaire"...?

@@ctam79 Observez un peu ce que veulent nous pondre les "artistes" au goût du jour avec par exemple "l'autel" ... mon enclume dans l'atelier a plus d'allure !

@@ctam79 Par bonheur, du mobilier, même liturgique, cela se change. Il ne s'agit pas d'une spire en verre et acier...

No, it is not. Indeed the 1789 Notre Dame of Assassin's Creed Unity is wrong. There was no wooden spire, who was buildt by Viollet-Le-Duc in 1859. BTW : Viollet-Le-Duc left all the plans of his spire.

They have collected 830 mio€ from donations. This alone is more than enough.

@@arno222444 That’s excellent! The global power of crowd funding, plus a bit from the Vatican probably….

Before the fire it lasted more or less 700 years without…..

​@arno222444 yea but climate change ain't what it used to be. With Temps rising and weather becoming more unpredictable, a checks and balances would be helpful

To be fair, the building has been damaged multiple times in the past. It almost got flattened in WW2 when the Nazis bombed Paris.

It took almost 200 years for the building to be finished. I'd say they are making great timing.

My thoughts exactly. As we know, the 300 ft Hammerhead Tower Crane was invented in the 12th Century...

We don't need any game, plans had been preserved in archives since construction!

Not necessary, but a choice that has been made.

You don't understand because you aren't privy to the deliberations that the planners considered when they made that decision. (Neither am I.) But since the original building has stood for more than 800 years maybe they thought that the old methods of construction just might be the best ones. And not every aspect of he restoration is being done using ancient methods, merely the carpentry employed for the wooden trusses.

So that french artisans are still able to rebuild historical monuments! Notre Dame de Reims was even built, and rebuilt many times in the same fragile but easy to carve rock so it is a school for cathedrals builder and sculptors!

@@AlextheHistorian Hand-held, small blade diameter, extemely-fast spinning (fast enough to burn the timber fast) ones? Um, nope..

You shouldn't assume that since they are using hand tools to shape the final truss components that no power tools were used to fell and debark the timber before it reached that final stage of carpentry. There are videos posted on KZfaq that show trees being cut down for the project using power tools: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f9Gkit1myr_RqKs.html

@@stevenweikert7062 I assumed no such thing. Did you even read, comprehend and check my time-stamp to see what I was referring to?

@@adammacer Your comment "No power saws" followed by the 'Aha! a circular saw mark!" remark implies that you found those two things contradictory. and I merely pointed out that they aren't. No one - not in this video or elsewhere - is claiming that no power tools whatsoever are being used to create the timber components for the cathedral reconstruction.

@@stevenweikert7062 lol.. she literally said 'no power saws, no drills'.. she EXPLICITLY implied, in the timing of the comment and the images shown, in the context of the workshop, that no power tools were being used in the fabrication of the timberwork.. this has nothing to do with the felling and processing of the lumber

Yeah, it needed restoration so badly(

Because there is a huge visible comparison when power tools are used that cannot be faked. That timeless look cannot be achieved. That building was a masterpiece, a work of art, so it's good to see the thought being put into it. Yes it's going to take time

They do use power tools , but try to keep it to a minimum. It is a historical masterpiece. That may not mean much to some, but it does to many, many others. Power tools being used: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qcCJd5Nqq9KZf2g.html

@abc123fhdi I agree that it is silly to use only hand tools to restore this historical treasure. The technology of timber frame is important but pit sawing timbers is ridiculous as would be bit and brace for peg holes. Time and money are the important things and integration of power and hand tool work methods produce the desired esthetic results faster, cheaper, and with higher quality. What value is there in saying we did it the hardest way possible, vanity? Why not use a tread wheel crane for all the lifts during construction? Architectural conservation must weight decisions concerning materials, methods, and costs against the objectives of a project and not waste time and effort on trivial details like cataloging the location within a forest where a tree was harvested. Apparently this project is way over funded to the detriment of other restorations.

it's not a barn, fella. And using old techniques helps to keep the knowledge

They are using power tools for some aspects of the reconstruction, but not for anything that will be visible after it's all put together. Anyway, its up to the French to do it in whatever way they think best.

Construction cranes been around since 600 BC. Human or animal powered.

They didn't. And since no one is claiming that *every* aspect of the rebuilding of the cathedral is being done using ancient methods then your comment is misplaced.

The spire is 'only' 150 years old.

@@stevenweikert7062 Hardly misplaced given the attitudes in the comment section, as if doing it the "old" way is self-evidently correct and the only legitimate option. Not everybody ignores the arbitrary decision points.

@@zweigackroyd7301 Whose opinions should be more heeded regarding the proper way to rebuild parts of an 800 year old cathedral? The experts who are actively engaged in doing that or the armchair engineers and armchair architects who post comments on KZfaq videos? According to your "logic" the builders should ignore the advice they get from their experts and make all further decisions based on the advice they get in KZfaq comments.

No, it will not be finished.

Since it is not the least bit important that it be done by that date, that shouldn't matter. Macron promised that it would be done "within 5 years" and since that would mean by next April the original deadline will not be met. But who cares as long as it *is* rebuilt. The original builders took 200 years or more to build it so 5 1/2 years to rebuild what was destroyed is not too bad.

@@stevenweikert7062 yes, I understand. I was only wondering since they weren't working so hard to get it done and people traveling for the Olympics may have hoped to see it.

@@yaowsers77 There are plenty of other things to see in Paris. Anyone who attends the Olympics and specifically wants to see the fully rebuilt cathedral will just have to schedule another trip. In the meantime there are exhibits that tourists can view that describe the work being done which are worth seeing in and of themselves.

Notre Dame will reopen its doors to the public on Sunday, December 8, 2024, the Feast of the Immaculate Conception