B1G fans travel the most. Tallahassee will receive a huge economic boom moving to the B1G. Everyone FSU home game will be a mini vacation for B1G fans. We get a chance to leave the cold weather in October and November and be in the warmth of Tallahassee

I do not trust the ESPN after the snub

The SEC has a tradition of spurning and spitefully treatment of FSU. Before joining the ACC, it was a long standing desire to be in the SEC by FSU. Unfortunately, the SEC continued to ignore the Seminoles until after an offer was made by the ACC. A counter was made by the SEC and withdrawn once the Seminoles chose the ACC. Only the influence of ESPN could likely sway FSU to go there based on contractual obligations. As a longtime alum of FSU, I never want to see my school in the SEC. I have no respect for the SEC conference despite all the championships. Likewise, I despise ESPN who has orchestrated this scenario.

Besides FSU/Clemson being good teams. It is media deals for Big 10. BIG MONEY

FSU fans are starting to melt down. It was the B1G for six months. Now it's the SEC. Now it's a hope and a prayer after the Big 12 smoke. This guy is not an insider. He literally started out sharing this is all basically his opinion. I turned it off after the first couple of minutes. Lol

BIG is best for FSU. Why settle for second fiddles behind Florida in the SEC when you can be top dog in Florida in the BIG This is a no brainer

Please bring this guy back on when they go to the big 10.

Pete Thamel had it right. The SEC's first priority are the states of North Carolina and Virginia. FSU has been on the B1G's hit list along with Notre Dame for two years. President McCullough will vote to join the nerds not the jocks.

man this podcast has been fucking great, all the realignment talk as a clemson fan it’s getting me hype to see what happens

I wouldn't mind having FSU and Clemson in the SEC. Games like FSU vs. Oklahoma, Clemson vs. Texas, FSU vs. Georgia, Clemson vs Bama, FSU vs Ole Miss, Clemson vs Florida, FSU vs Tennessee would be some fun games to watch.

You should go to a game in Miami when FSU plays there or other big teams. You can’t even hear yourself think. When Miami plays these other teams, I will agree with you.

At the end of the day, I don't care if the Noles go to SEC or B1G. Just get out.

I'm a Vols dude, but have always liked the Noles. It would be explosive if the SEC picked up FSU!... The Gators rivalry is epic... If there is a no brainer for the SEC it's FSU. Clemson maybe, but the Seminoles definitely!

Why SETTLE for the sec? For the entirety of FSU; building the brand, sports, education, research and financially, the National Conference is the most logical move.

Big 10 🍢🍢🍢

I believe Oklahoma will do better in the Sec..They have 14x Big 12 titles & Texas has only 4. Texas is always over hyped just like the Dallas Cowboys.

6:15 approximately of the video, the sec isn't top heavy...😂😂😂😂😂is always had been and always will be like the B1G! Gooooo Bluuuuuueeeeee Baby!

Heck yeah Crain & Co is the best sports talk show on yt

See you soon Notre Dame! I am inevitable. Sincerely, The Big Ten

Eventually there will be only 2 conferences and FSU will not be left out. As a B1G alumnus I would've preferred we stopped at 10 teams then 12 then 14 then 18, but I think we are headed to 24-26 teams in each the B1G and SEC with a NFL type playoffs leading to the "super bowl" each year between the B1G(North and West) vs. SEC(South and East).

To win in the SEC you need quality depth...solid 2s and 3s. Not size or speed. Because when it's back end side of the conference schedule. These teams are banged up.

Have either of you guys ever been to Blacksburg VA come on we have a crazy environment in lane stadium smh we always get overlooked till we beat your teams

FSU doesnt have a deal with ESPN, The ACC does. FSU wouldnt have a deal with Fox if they went to the Big Ten, the Big Ten would. So they go from a conference that has a media deal with a major broadcaster to a conference that has a media deal with three major broadcasters. That's it. Now, maybe there is something that ESPN could offer The ACC in return for lowering the cost of exit for a school that leaves for the SEC but if he wants to talk about lawyering, now you are talking about market allocation. The ACC giving a different exit deal to a school leaving for the SEC vs one leaving for the B1G or some other conference? That smells like big trouble.

I also think DJ U might be able to prove that, he didn’t have the chance at OSU because of the backfield they had, when you’re not given that chance and then all of a sudden it’s put on you in the 4th that’s rough. I think Norvell is a great coach that’ll work with him to have the confidence to be successful in those situations

Is your going to have this home on for the sec make sure you have his CO host from meeeechigan on!

People are so scared of what FSU can do with that daddy B1G money

Yes ESPN is the one paying for the rights but it’s the ACC is the one that receives the money and then divides it among its members. So going to SEC doesn’t solve anything, the ACC would have to ok it, if its claims are correct.

To the fsu fans: if you’re scared, just say that. SEC is the best conference in the game. Come play with the big dawgs.

Need to hear more from Jake Crain. Great podcast today.

Going from an ESPN run ACC Conference to a ESPN run SEC Conference is basically getting screwed twice. We would always get treated like the red headed step child. From what I've been told FSU has a invitation to the B1G. 🤫

That's the problem, we DON'T want to deal with ESPN! We need to go to the B1G!

FSU should look at a map. The SEC makes sense for operating expenses alone.

this sucks I cant believe we are stuck with espn

The SEC is not a meat grind.... Since Saban its been Bama plus 1. Its gone from Florida, Auburn, LSU, and Georgia. Everyone else is a tier 2 at best or tier 3 team. Last year Mizzou played and only beat KState at Home in OT.... Ole Miss only beat LSU who was ranked. Tennessee didn't even play anyone close that was ranked. So what are we talking about here?

FSU isn't going to be invited to either conference. Florida doesn't want FSU in the SEC and BIG is full up

With all due respect, I think Jake has it backwards. If we go from ACC to SEC, then ESPN just moves money from one pocket to another, and there is no new money to pay the ACC for the exit. However, if FSU goes to the BIG, then money goes from ESPN to FOX. If SEC was interested in helping us, they could have done this 2 years ago before any litigation was filed. Now that we are on the doorstep of the Big they are going to help us? I don't think so. The Clemson/Nelson Mullins legal argument on the GOR - that it only applies to games played while we were a member of the ACC - is very persuasive and threads the needle and is likely to be how the case is decided. So FSU's "liability" on GOR is probably zero. ESPN might have helped with the GOR if we go from ACC to SEC, but FSU won't need that help. What remains is the $140 million exit fee and whether its enforceable. Its probably not and FSU will probably sue ESPN/ACC for antitrust violations for trying to enforce these unlawful agreements against FSU. We lost about $30 million a year for multiple years, and we can triple that in antitrust. Its still possible that we go to the SEC but considering Feinbaum came out a few weeks ago saying that the SEC didn't want us, I think the SEC knows we already picked Big. They did the same thing back in 1992. Also I think BIG and SEC have already carved up the ACC. Most likely scenarios is that the Big got the big prizes, FSU and Clemson, so SEC got next pick which was NC. Its possible in my mind that Big also takes Miami, GT, NCS, and or VT/VA. Those are some interesting recruiting territories and new TV markets. GT and Miami are schools with great geographies that could do a lot more with a little more money. As for a superconference, yeah that is likely to happen. Big will rename itself the National League. If the SEC can add a team outside of its region it can use the name American League. As an aside, a superconference will be a vehicle for the big boys to not share money with the Vanderbilts and Northwesterns. They won't kick anyone out. They will just set up a new league and not invite those guys.

Josh Allen improved his accuracy dramatically after 1st year in the NFL so it can be done

Bro was a straight metaphor and analogy factory 🤣

Only problem with your comment there is that if you’re gunna name the bottom teams in other leagues then you should do the same in the SEC. Vanderbilt, Arkansas, South Carolina, Mississippi State. I will say, I do think those teams have potential but they’re in the bottom half of the league not Tennessee, LSU, Kentucky. Just saying. Just like those bottom teams having upside, so do some of the ones in other leagues you mentioned. Michigan state just got a great coach and made some good moves. I do agree with the Big12 mentions but I also think the Big12 is smart and made some intelligent moves to stay around for a while. We might see 2 top leagues with a third that is still good and will have some contenders year in and year out

He was comparing Tennessee to Illinois, that's more like a Wisconsin level team. Bad take.

It may depend on if they like who they've been working with.

Look what New Mexico State did to Auburn last year 😂.

Great show 👍🏻

I guess you forgot about the environment at Va Tech.

Mike Norvell is the “Cesar Millan of quarterback coaches”! CLASSIC! I agree with your guest 100% about DJU. He has to hit the screens and short passes in stride CONSISTENTLY, in order for FSU to be successful. Go NOLES!

The main thing, though that you didn’t mention is, does the SEC even want clemson or Florida State from everything I have heard they already have schools in those two respective states and would prefer to go into North Carolina or Virginia if they do expand again with North Carolina being the cherry at the top of the cake

Big 10 bound.

You guys make a big deal home field advantage in the SEC. There is an advantage, but not for the reasons you think. A study was done across multiple sports. What was shown is that the fans don't affect the performance of either team. Yes, the crowd can cause false starts, but they don't affect how a team performs. The one thing that was identified as the major factor was referee bias for the home team. It was shown to exist across all sports in the study. The home team fans are influencers on the referees. That's it.

Clemson has 2 five star Recievers coming in 2 promising sophomores and Mafah at rb which is the better back than Shipley

Canes fans ->>->>-> The SEC requires a stadium at Campus, not a pro stadium 45 minutes away…

Can you imagine Danny kannel if fsu ends up in SEC

Hello there Noles. Time for ACC to drop this foolishness. Clemson and Florida St will be out in the end. I hope both teams end up in SEC. It is the best conference. Go Clemson Tigers. Knock them out in Pickens County on Friday

You said outside of nc state their are no other tough places to play, you obviously haven't been to Blacksburg bro.

I see a lot of talk about how much tougher the SEC is over everyone else week in and week out. I just do not buy it. Statistically, the Big 12 has had the highest scoring dog fight games week in and week out. I am not saying that the big 12 is the best conference at all. I am just saying, the defense will not have as much high pressure defensive battles against high scoring offences week in and week out. It is like those big 12 defenses are playing 2 games in one in terms of plays. Something that the SEC for sure cannot say and are probably 4th on the list of all of the conferences? What if it is a welcomed change for OU to not have to be in a dog fight aerial battle every week and they end up doing very well due to their experience? I just think that there needs to be a wait and see attitude instead of the pretentious, we are the best attitude that most SEC fans have over other conferences. Note that I am also an OU fan and we are joining the conference.

The sec is top heavy.

Yeah, FSU,MIAMI, Clemson. It just makes sense geographically that they’ll go to the SEC. It isn’t fair to the teams & fanbases to travel across the country to watch & play games.😅

Nah. Iv seen my team dominate a decade in a way only a few teams have

😂😂😂😂fsu aint getting $65m from espn Hopes will be dashed

I'm as much as an insider as any of these guys. Most Noles want to be in the B1G because we dislike: Disney and ESPN, that dumbass College GameDay show, and the ridiculous college playoff committee. Go Noles -----------;;--->

Rutgers fans travel really well. Notre Dame has fans coast to coast while Rutgers has fans that actually fly coast to coast.... there's a difference. #theynotlikeus

FSU & Clemson with an unequal revenue share to the B12, B12 will guarantee FSU & Clemson $70 million per year!

One more thing about the University of Miami no serious CFB team has ever or will ever call a NFL stadium home field Miami is a joke until they build something. I don’t care what it is play in a soccer stadium. Anything on campus

Miami’s home-field is a joke if the university doesn’t take football serious why should anybody else? Build a damn stadium 🤬 💩is sad The university is squandering their own legacy

Crane is awesome

Good show your is a trip 🤣🤣🤣

Listen buddy FSU is trash and a bunch of fans are good for tv but no one cares about the crowd as a player we don’t get scared because of the atmosphere get real

Is he an SEC homer?

way too many ads

Vandy trash South Carolina and Florida and Mississippi State and Auburn and Arkansas terrible bad in SEC and average in ACC

B1G

We’re a much better fit in the SEC. I can acknowledge the perceived “dislike” that seems to come from ESPN but they’re main stream media. What do you expect? Nonconformists are the enemy. We’ve always had a bit of bad rep. “Free shoes U, Dillards, Jameis…but for all of those we have a Charlie Ward, a Warrick Dunn, a Derrick Brooks. All schools do. So who cares. I want every week to be big games. If we lose, at least we’re losing to Georgia, Bama, LSU, Tennessee (gawd I hate Tennessee). SEC or B1G. Doesn’t matter to me, but I’d prefer SEC. PS. Kentucky is not exactly a “gimme” anymore.

Incredibly disappointing if FSU goes to ESPN/SEC. No faith in that despicable network and its leashed backwoods conference. B1G is much more academically prestigious, affluent, and offers a better slate of road games compared to the trailer parks that pass as college towns in the SEC. B1G all the way!

Jake is the man

FSU to the SEC ….. Let’s go NOLES!!!!!

Jake, you’re right. SEC is tailor made for FSU. We will thrive due to the superior competition.

Again, I wasted 4 minutes and 22 seconds in what I'm sure was a 14 plus minute diatribe of when Florida State will leave the ACC. You can filter the minutia of what might be ad nauseam, but in the end you don't fucking know! The video should have ended when you said, "I not a lawyer and anything can happen." In other words, you have no clue! I've got an idea. Pay the ACC $572 million and break the grant of rights and be on your way. Bye.

BS and ignorance. While your guest was talking, Purdue beat Tennessee again, Penn State scored again, and Rutgers showed Arkansas where it is at. The Big Ten is not going to get into a penis size comparison with the SEC. That is ridiculous. The Big Ten commands $$$ because of brands and alumni bases. As soon as you get that through your head and stop comparing apples and oranges, you'll sleep better. And as far as FSU jumping to the SEC because ESPN has a deal with both, nah fam. ESPN is not going to blowup contracts and burn down ACC revenue stream just to prop up the SEC when it could have both SEC and ACC. ESPN will lose money. ESPN needs FSU and UNC to generate viewers. Otherwise that ACC deal is bad ROI. And going to the SEC just forces ESPN to pay more money for FSU while losing value in ACC as whole

"Insider" LOL. Wrong - B1G

Financially and economically it makes more sense for fsu and Clemson to go SEC. One of the main ways Tallahassee gets money is through home football games. I don’t think a lot of Purdue or Washington fans are going to go to games at fsu because of how far it is.

FSU fans are all over the place. A lot of chest pounding. It’s ok FSU. SEC will take you and treat our troubled kin as equals. Even though you don’t want to be controlled and can’t handle rejection. It’s like a modern feminist movement. Come here for a big hug.

I think thats the problem though... I think Florida St not only wants to get away from the ACC, they want to get away from ESPN....