Installing a PiStorm32 Lite in your Amiga 1200 is so easy now that even an idiot like me can do it!

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The Retro Shack

The Retro Shack

11 ай бұрын

PiStorm32 - the Raspberry Pi based accelerator card for the Amiga 1200 promises to be plug and play - but is it? This episode has been sponsored by our good friends at PCBWay.com - Check out their website for all your PCB fabrication needs. pcbway.com - PCBs for as little as $5!
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@markfgns1265
@markfgns1265 11 ай бұрын
Maybe not the first. And sorry to be "that" guy. But, that my good sir, is a Pi 3a+ 🧐 just in case anyone follows the excellent guide, wondering why their 3b won't fit. 👍
@TheRetroShack
@TheRetroShack 11 ай бұрын
Whoops! You're quite right - I'll pin this comment :)
@Voyager_2
@Voyager_2 11 ай бұрын
I just upgraded my pistorm 2k to a PI4 including a small overclock. Never thought I would be watching divx movies on my 2000.
@MegaManNeo
@MegaManNeo 11 ай бұрын
I don't even have an Amiga. I just love seeing what is possible with the Raspberry Pi inside this classic computer and giving it quite the boost!
@EdgeOfPanic
@EdgeOfPanic 7 ай бұрын
There's also support for Pi4b and CM4, with some OC to 2.2Ghz you'll get about 3 times more performance as with a Pi3.
@RobA500
@RobA500 11 ай бұрын
What could possibly be better than a super charged Amiga, nice upgrade. Oh that A500 seriously needs a clean.
@TheRetroShack
@TheRetroShack 11 ай бұрын
I know :( I’ll get to it one day soon :)
@williammanganaro2022
@williammanganaro2022 11 ай бұрын
Received my PiStorm Lite for the A1200. Now I am really motivated to finish the A1200 build and fire this accelerator up ! Excellent video.
@merman1974
@merman1974 11 ай бұрын
Impressive. That extension bracket is a really neat solution, having to go inside to change the SD card would be annoying in the long run.
@Gannett2011
@Gannett2011 11 ай бұрын
All I need now is a 1200! Seriously, great video. Keep 'em coming!
@James-fo8rf
@James-fo8rf 11 ай бұрын
Great video thanks. I have my pistorm 32 and pi but not installed it yet. Will test as accelerator first.
@ClassicRetroByte
@ClassicRetroByte 11 ай бұрын
What a great and interesting video that was. 👍 And well worth putting a PI Storm inside, I may look at doing the same with one of my Amiga's. Thanks for the very intuitive video. 👍
@Colin_Ames
@Colin_Ames 11 ай бұрын
Great video, as always. Enjoyable to see what can be done with old Amigas, even though I don’t own one and almost certainly never will. Keep up the good work.
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 9 ай бұрын
well, you can get a Pimiga distro for your Raspi (maybe Rpi400) and have a "blast from the past".
@Colin_Ames
@Colin_Ames 9 ай бұрын
@@madigorfkgoogle9349 I have Pimiga on a RPi4, and enjoy it. My comment about not owning one was made because I really can’t afford what is being asked for them nowadays.
@EdgeOfPanic
@EdgeOfPanic 7 ай бұрын
It's really easy with Emu68 indeed, for overkill performance put in a pi4b or CM4 with adapter board with some active cooling, overclock it to 2.2Ghz. Get ready for some shock&awe. it took me weeks to get used to the fact my A1200 was that fast 😄😄
@PCBWay
@PCBWay 11 ай бұрын
Nice content as always!!
@YesiPleb
@YesiPleb 7 ай бұрын
I've got a PiStorm32lite inside my A1200 and it's incredible, I'm also using a 3A+ as well (as I am with my BBC Master but that's another video) and the speed increase and usability factor goes through the roof. I've got a 256GB microSD card inside mine and using PFS3aio for the filing system except for DH0: (Workbench:) which is still using FFS. The PFS recovery tools from the main PFS3 package are installed into DH0: so if there are any problems I can still boot and rescue the machine. The boot partition is set to 2GB on which I've created a directory called XFER, which I use to transfer data to/from my Amiga/PC as you can mount that FAT32 partition within the Amiga. One thing I noticed with PFS is if you create a partition bigger than 104GB it puts it in test mode as anything over that is untested. I had a requester warning me when I went to format a massive 220GB partition so I now have 5 partitions, two of them being 100GB each. I've also got two monitors connected because the native resolutions come out of the standard RGB monitor port and the RTG screens come out of the HDMI port and when different screens are opened, it's a pain having to manually switch all the time when using one monitor with both cables plugged in. So much easier and quicker to tell when something has crashed instead of trying to find a screen open. I've got mine running in full 24bit color and in 1080p and it's not slowing down - as for the system, I set Workbench up myself just as I like it.
@stevew3226
@stevew3226 5 ай бұрын
I am new to this, just bought a PiStorm32lite for my A1200. Is the best option to save software such as games on the MicroSD card or do people use the Gotek with the PiStorm?
@andrewsearle9153
@andrewsearle9153 10 ай бұрын
The hardware install is really easy but it took a little longer to get Caffeine OS onto the SD card. I'm almost out of weekend too so won't have time to explore much. That's a very quick boot time 🙂 Thanks for the video.
@Dreamshadow1977
@Dreamshadow1977 11 ай бұрын
IT's an Amiga-borg! Given new life with technology beyond it's knowing!
@bazza5699
@bazza5699 11 ай бұрын
makes me wish i had an a1200.. looking forward to a video on the different OS.. it looks really good.
@ahmad-murery
@ahmad-murery 11 ай бұрын
For no specific reason I always wanted to have Amiga 1200 when I was young, there is something attractive about it
@imqqmi
@imqqmi 5 ай бұрын
I owned one when I was young and that feeling only grows :) Man it was hard parting with it!
@ahmad-murery
@ahmad-murery 5 ай бұрын
@@imqqmi I feel you :)
@carlwells9504
@carlwells9504 8 ай бұрын
That A1200 of yours is stunning- what might look extra great if you had the time is paint the inside maybe the same pearl white as those keycaps to make those insides pop!
@TheRetroShack
@TheRetroShack 8 ай бұрын
That's a great idea!
@MrEnyecz
@MrEnyecz 11 ай бұрын
On the one hand, this is nice. On the other hand, the PI is giving you the CPU, the accelerator chips, the memory, the HDMI, the winchester... in the end, this is not else but an emulator put into a cases of an Amiga.
@Fumpzong
@Fumpzong 10 ай бұрын
Sorry but that is not the case. The Pistorm is much more like a turbo card. All internal custom chips remain in function. All ports of the Amiga can still be used. Graphics and sound output also work as you know it. Only the original processor is switched off. Ok it is a little more complicated but you can read about it on the net.
@MrEnyecz
@MrEnyecz 10 ай бұрын
@@FumpzongYou can look at it that way too. But. It can emulate the CPU, can give you RTG video (with acceleration!), emulates the clock, the SCSI, the ROM. If you switch that all on, what remains? Maybe the Paula, but I'm not sure.
@Fumpzong
@Fumpzong 10 ай бұрын
@@MrEnyecz Depending on one's point of view, the situation can be described as one in which the glass is either half full or half empty. If you have fun with a PI Storm, you have fun. Those who don't, even not 😊
@LemaruX
@LemaruX 7 ай бұрын
​@@MrEnyeczPiStorm doesn't emulate anything other than a CPU. All the other stuff (RTG, Storage) is handled by 68k drivers hitting the Pi hardware directly. Nothing there is emulated, all the original chipset is still in use.
@ulrich8185
@ulrich8185 9 ай бұрын
Hello, Nice video, i'm ready now to do the same. I'm wondering where did you get the amiga 1200's cable cache and the cables ? Keep up the good work.
@commentingpausedtoprotectus
@commentingpausedtoprotectus 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful, love it! Trigger’s Amiga 😅
@BOBService417
@BOBService417 11 ай бұрын
Glad to see your video.When will you test DM201 M digital microscope and show it online?
@wskinnyodden
@wskinnyodden 11 ай бұрын
You can not emulate CHIP RAM cause CHIP RAM IS ONBOARD and directly accessed by the chipset, the only way to replace/upgrade that is by messing with the motherboard and chipset or by going the full FPGA route as with the Mister and that requires you to create in FPGA something Comodore planned for the 4000 but never did, which is the above 2Mb support for chip RAM, the 4000 was supposed to have enabled 8Mb CHIP RAM but never did, the jumper can even be seen on most 4000 Desktop motherboards. I would love to see someone upgrading Agnus, Buster etc to fully support even just the 8Mb CHIP RAM so you can actually have improved AGA modes and improved samples for Paula (yes Paula will use CHIP RAM for its Samples)
@SelfIndulgentGamer
@SelfIndulgentGamer 11 ай бұрын
I didnt get the HDMI kit etc with my Storm, does anyone know where I can get that from? thanks
@tech34756
@tech34756 11 ай бұрын
PSA: Be aware that the ‘timing issue’ does affect Pistorm32, this has been fixed in software though. CaffineOS didn’t give me this issue and I believe newer builds of emu68 fix this, but older builds without the fix caused crashes. I don’t know if Musashi has had the fix applied.
@geoffcollins6601
@geoffcollins6601 11 ай бұрын
I so need an amiga 1200 and a pi storm thingy in my life 😊
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 5 ай бұрын
7:45 Actually, I think the chip ram caps out at 2MB on AGA Amigas. They simply can't address any more than that. But I suspect you knew that ;)
@wskinnyodden
@wskinnyodden 11 ай бұрын
3A, the 3B is rectangular not close to a square as the A is.
@TheRetroShack
@TheRetroShack 11 ай бұрын
When you’re right, you’re right :) My bad!
@Kppot
@Kppot 11 ай бұрын
11:31 How do I get that printed kit with all the leads??
@Breakfast_of_Champions
@Breakfast_of_Champions 11 ай бұрын
Soo... a "C64Storm" should be able to reach 10k+ factors of speedup😀 Would really like to see something about Caffeine OS too, thanks!
@TheRetroShack
@TheRetroShack 11 ай бұрын
I'll be diving into a few variants of workbench over the coming months - there's quite a choice!
@Breakfast_of_Champions
@Breakfast_of_Champions 11 ай бұрын
@@TheRetroShack I've had a look at CaffeineOS now, seems a bit problematic with regard to copyright matters, please tread carefully😉
@Fumpzong
@Fumpzong 10 ай бұрын
It would be very nice if we could get some links to the HDMI cables and the used ST file. From my experience it is always very difficult to get the right cables for the STL.
@drphilxr
@drphilxr 11 ай бұрын
This is all very nice and good. I have the PiStorm for both Amiga 500 and1200. But what can you really do? You can surf the net with caffeine OS. Yes you can play games, but trying to install anything on caffeine from original Amiga software days is impossible- the emu68 seems the best way to go to get internet and compatible software. Caffeine seems best for PC ports. Am I wrong?
@jjjacer
@jjjacer 10 ай бұрын
@4:20 not sure how well this would work on an amiga but ive found for cards that dont have much room or are not easy to grip is to put a little piece of tap at the edge sorta like a tab that you can pull on, i do it to my CF cards in an embedded system as it doesnt still out far enough for my fingers to grip
@Lucretia9000
@Lucretia9000 11 ай бұрын
Now stick a pi4 in it. I'm going to see how you did that keyboard. Ah, I watched it a year ago and forgot. Commented there too.
@erischaot
@erischaot 11 ай бұрын
Do you have sources for the backplate cover and adapter cables used? Was looking in the description but only bought the screwdriver now ^_^
@Mind-your-own-beeswax
@Mind-your-own-beeswax 3 ай бұрын
Just bought an a1200 that comes with the pistorm 32 lite and raspberry pi 3a+ although it’s not fitted. Somehow I doubt very much that when I plug it in it’s going to be as smooth as a transition as yours was
@Mike-lp2th
@Mike-lp2th 7 ай бұрын
I, like you, put the pistorm board and Raspberry Pi back in the box after watching some very confusing video's. Think I will dig it back out and at least try the accelorater part. Thanks!
@muoteck123
@muoteck123 10 ай бұрын
Is there a complete set for this USB/HDMI/microSD card cable set + bracket available somwhere on the Internet? If yes - could you please provide a link where can I buy one?
@GoranObal
@GoranObal 11 ай бұрын
I love my PiStorm32 Lite! :)
@paulward2076
@paulward2076 11 ай бұрын
How much would that cost? I know i can get a gotek drive for about £40 but im really not sure about the pistorm etc.
Ай бұрын
CPU, RAM, graphics - all done by Raspberry Pi. Is Amiga anything more than a keyboard for the Pi in this setup?
@TYNEPUNK
@TYNEPUNK 7 ай бұрын
interesting how your gloom deluxe uses the gloom3 icon. also whats gloom gold edition?
@michaelWNY
@michaelWNY 4 ай бұрын
I really want to get my hands on an A1200 but for the price I might as well just give up and get a Mister.
@RandallCrook
@RandallCrook 11 ай бұрын
Where did you get the extension cables and the 3d printed adapter?
@000Angus000
@000Angus000 11 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the video but Gloom ran very well on an 030. Would Quake not have been a better test? I'm unclear where your cables for the rear port came from, and what the implications are for video output regarding Amiga games and mode promotable programs. Woud I need separate monitors etc?
@Zontar82
@Zontar82 10 ай бұрын
what did you put in place of main floppy? i am trying to use a gotek but it is only seen as secondary floppy and not main one
@10MARC
@10MARC 10 ай бұрын
The Emu68K configuration is so much easier than the first implementation of the PiStorm. That one requires three different computers to set it up! (A PC, logging in and configuring Linux on the PiStorm, and configuring the Amiga) - this certainly reduces the steps required.
@noimnotarobotcanubeleiveit7024
@noimnotarobotcanubeleiveit7024 9 ай бұрын
need this for sinclair ql
@CJGrass
@CJGrass 8 ай бұрын
Hey, do you have any knowledge of the length of hdmi, usb and microsd extenders?
@beigemachine549
@beigemachine549 5 ай бұрын
That HDMI Port tray. Where do you obtain one?
@AmbroseClarke
@AmbroseClarke 5 ай бұрын
The link to the sd image in description is broken.. I am struggling to find a tutorial to install CaffeineOS on an Amiga 1200 PiStorm Lite's SD card. Anyone know good tutorial to install a fully loaded CafineOS and it work? Thanks :)
@alanhaynes4576
@alanhaynes4576 3 ай бұрын
So, what about the a500? When can the installation be as simple as that? Is there an Emu68 version for the a500 PiStorm?
@stefanocrespi5424
@stefanocrespi5424 11 ай бұрын
The A1200 is the expansion.
@MarkTheMorose
@MarkTheMorose 11 ай бұрын
Or a decelerator, maybe? 😉
@AlexEvans1
@AlexEvans1 11 ай бұрын
I have a pistorm for my A1000. I could never get it to work at all. Couldn't even get a blank screen. And, yes, with a real 68k, it works fine.
@Maciek2700
@Maciek2700 9 ай бұрын
Where to buy such a cap and an HDMI cable that fits this cap ?
@NorthWay_no
@NorthWay_no 11 ай бұрын
I see the PiStorm still is not full bandwidth to chipmem. You might want to run "bustest" for comparisons. I thought they had worked on it and smoothed that out?
@LemaruX
@LemaruX 7 ай бұрын
Chip reads have been maxed out with the PiStorm32, but SysInfo is rubbish for chip speed testing. Like you say, bustest or ssspeed is the better tests for that
@sethfiatjustitia
@sethfiatjustitia 2 ай бұрын
How well do the games run through the PiStorm's HDMI ?
@keyboard_g
@keyboard_g 11 ай бұрын
The second thing you showed with Caffeine and HDMI basically replaces the entire Amiga? Sound is emulated? Chip ram and the rest of the Aga is emulated?
@TheRetroShack
@TheRetroShack 11 ай бұрын
Nope - it’s still using all of the Amiga chips apart from the CPU which is replaced by the Emu68k running on the PI. The re-targetable graphics are piped back from the Amiga to the PI and out through the HDMI port. You can’t run CaffeineOS without an Amiga :)
@keyboard_g
@keyboard_g 11 ай бұрын
@@TheRetroShackThat’s nice. I believe the Vampires replace everything and just use the Amiga inputs.
@Chrisst1961
@Chrisst1961 11 ай бұрын
@@keyboard_g The Vampire V4 boards can be used just as an accelerator or in Super-AGA upgrade mode with 6 meg of Chip Ram. This is changed by setting a jumper.
@janwiersma1449
@janwiersma1449 11 ай бұрын
in which way is the usb port or ports of the pi to be used. i want to transfer some file from my pimiga setup to my cafeine 1200 setup. never saw a clear video of that. and that is what really matter to me. data transfer. I did stick the pi3B+ in there and indeed that looks like a castrated cat with the ports of the rasp hanging true the bottom of the case LOL really should get me a 3a sometime.
@chipsnfishnl
@chipsnfishnl 10 ай бұрын
I'm getting some mixed search results. Can you use the pi's wifi or ethernet with the pistorm32-lite? Preferably with Roadshow. And if it does, how are the transfer speeds? (compared to pcmcia ethernet?)
@LemaruX
@LemaruX 7 ай бұрын
No Pi WiFi/ethernet under Emu68 at present
@saf271828
@saf271828 4 ай бұрын
Regarding why chips can't access memory on the Pi -- it's because the DMA controllers only touch CHIP RAM. The CPU's address bus funnels _into_ the Alice/Agnus chip; but the Alice/Agnus chip cannot drive the CPU's address bus (and even if it could, it only has 21 address bits to do it with; hence, 2MB). So it has zero way of even talking to the Pi even if you _wanted_ it to. You're going to have to use the PiStorm's support for RTG graphics if you want to use all that new memory for video purposes, I'm afraid.
@hamrdeye8927
@hamrdeye8927 11 ай бұрын
Man that A500 is nasty. Give it a bath, please! :)
@AshtonCoolman
@AshtonCoolman 3 ай бұрын
Oh wow so I can play Elite pretty fast now, huh?😁
@bosstone100
@bosstone100 11 ай бұрын
Is there a way to get another RTC in there?
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 5 ай бұрын
Ironically the 1200 had a clock port for exactly that purpose, and people crammed ALL KINDS of weird shit into the system that way.
@gunrock00
@gunrock00 11 ай бұрын
Shame there's not a PiStorm for the Amiga 4000. Or perhaps there is?
@rodovanra6783
@rodovanra6783 10 ай бұрын
chipspeed is still ultra slow. the 030 had chip speed of 3.28the pie 1.27 so I assume its still very bad at anything that uses AGA games and paint programs.
@LemaruX
@LemaruX 7 ай бұрын
Chip writes have been maxed out for a while now (SysInfo won't show that though, better use a proper benchmarking tool like bustest or ssspeed). As for games, most WHDLoad games work fine with the correct WHDLoad and EmuControl settings. Some of the discord Devs are working on a wrapper to automatically apply the optimal settings for each game from a database they are putting together, which will cut down the bed to manually change settings.
@magicknight8412
@magicknight8412 11 ай бұрын
How much of the Amiga is actually doing anything here? Seems like you might as well ditch the motherboard and leave a raspberry pi in there with those ports available and a keyboard connector.
@nicktaylor1649
@nicktaylor1649 8 ай бұрын
From what I read, the PiStormLite really just emulates an M 68k CPU rather than hosting a physical CPU and shouldn’t be different than using a traditional accelerator with extra RAM in the Zorro slot since those also disable the stock CPU. The RAM boost is insane compared to what most of us would really be able to use. 128 megs on my TF1230 is already more than i need. The efficiency of the emulated CPU is supposed to be better than the real M 68k CPU series. The PiStormLite doesn’t emulate other motherboard hardware like the MOS custom chips that I know of. I believe the Pi has the potential to be an entire emulated system but in this case the goal is to have a cheap and powerful accelerator with RTG as an option for wedge-case users. I’ve wanted RTG for TVPaint and Imagine but I have an A1200. This is a more realistic option than an expensive Vampire for me since I don’t want to expand outside my 1200’s case to use an RTG card.
@LemaruX
@LemaruX 7 ай бұрын
​@@nicktaylor1649nailed it with that answer. It emulates nothing more than a CPU. Everything else, like RTG, Storage, etc, is done with 68k drivers hitting the Pi hardware directly
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 11 ай бұрын
chipspeed still in the toilet, but getting better soon
@johnsne
@johnsne 11 ай бұрын
Why the ugly yellow case??
@ahmad-murery
@ahmad-murery 11 ай бұрын
Maybe to repel bugs 😁
@magicknight8412
@magicknight8412 11 ай бұрын
it's a FU to case yellowing, paint it yellow from the start and never worry about yellowing!
@JarppaGuru
@JarppaGuru 8 ай бұрын
what was hard on pistorm original. burn sd card and setup it, but its not real amiga its emulated chips using real hardware. same as googling and use winuae same time
@LemaruX
@LemaruX 7 ай бұрын
It doesn't emulate any "chips". PiStorm only emulates a CPU. Nothing more
@thewelder3538
@thewelder3538 8 ай бұрын
Your first mistake was doing anything with an A500+. Come on, everybody knew they were just a rubbish A500 and the people who bought them were just "special". Just joking! Great video, but was hoping for some more detail. I have some important questions though: So this Pi emulates a 68040? So does it implement all of the 68040 instruction set, for instructions like movec, registers like bc, ccr etc? There are instructions on the 040 that don't exist on anything lower. I'm also quite interested in the memory layout too. A true 040 chip used to use some memory locations between $0 and $320, if I recall correctly. Some on my demos would relocate loaders and stuff down there, after killing the OS. Flower Power/Anarchy and a few Sanity demos has similar systems whereby they did their own memory management and loading after killing the OS. It would be interesting to see what the OS said was the lowest memory address that could be used was. That's would really be a twat of how good an emulation the Pi was doing.
@retroheadstuff8554
@retroheadstuff8554 11 ай бұрын
But is it still an Amiga?
@TheRetroShack
@TheRetroShack 11 ай бұрын
Yes :) Yes it is :)
@singularety
@singularety 11 ай бұрын
it's screaming - Clean MEEEEEE
@3dhYT
@3dhYT 11 ай бұрын
The yellow color is so unmanly 😏
@TheRetroShack
@TheRetroShack 11 ай бұрын
You have no idea how many people hate this colour :) Even I don't like it and I chose it :)
@desposyy
@desposyy 11 ай бұрын
You think he should paint it a manly colour like pink?
@keyboard_g
@keyboard_g 11 ай бұрын
It’s like a school bus.
@3dhYT
@3dhYT 11 ай бұрын
@@desposyy At least pink isn't the color of piss 😁
@104d_3rr0r_vince
@104d_3rr0r_vince 11 ай бұрын
Man, just flip the keyboard and do not disconnect it. The ribbon will die.
@meetoo594
@meetoo594 11 ай бұрын
Very cool mod but 2 things come to mind. 1: the sd card slot should have been located the other side of the board so its accessible via the trapdoor rather than unscrewing the case or buying the breakout box. 2: Is there really any point doing this? There isn't much you can do on an Amiga that you cant do via emulation or via modern pc apps nowadays and I really cant see myself using dpaint when photoshop exists. You might as well just take the Amiga motherboard out and just use the pi with that bootable Amiga emulator os thing and a few adaptors for the keyboard and such if you really want to use Amiga programs in an authentic Amiga case. Not a criticism of the pistorm, which is an amazing bit of design.
@little_fluffy_clouds
@little_fluffy_clouds 6 ай бұрын
There's no practical reason for any Amiga accelerators nowadays, except for the fun in seeing how fast we can push these venerable machines of our nostalgic past. When I was a teenager with an Amiga 500, I dreamt of having an 020 or 030 accelerator board or an Amiga 3000, but could never afford them. It's nice to be able to scratch that itch now. Only a tiny handful of games take advantage of the faster CPU and FPU to give better frame rates, but those run just fine at max speed under emulation or on a full-blown MiSTer FPGA system using the Amiga core. Any Amiga productivity task which benefitted from fast CPU or FPU, such as 3D modelling, video editing and animation work, is better tackled on a modern PC or Mac nowadays.
@piconano
@piconano 11 ай бұрын
That diarrhea cigarette colour case ruined a perfectly beautiful machine inside.
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