Box is likely grounded, but better practice is to bond it to the ground. The steel armor and box are conductive, so it's grounded that way. Also the ground screw on receptacles also have continuity to the metal parts that screw the receptacle to the box, so there is a ground present even in the absence of a ground wire, in that case. But always use the ground wire and always bond it. Also use the top and bottom screws and a nut. The center screw can come loose, and also the pressure of plugging things in can weaken the outlet and wear it out prematurely.
@boltkane68279 ай бұрын
That's right. It is a code violation to install a receptacle to a cover the way it is is done in this video. NEC 406.5(C)
@nathangriffin9893 Жыл бұрын
I work at southwire mc plant where this cable is manufactured, you do not need that tool. Break the armoring and cut it with tin snips.
@michaelking42 Жыл бұрын
Mate, I'm an electrician from Australia, living in Florida now. I find it crazy how difficult you yanks make electrical work. Living here, I almost have to relearn the entire trade. Thanks for the info, and also to the commentary above and below for their input. Makes it a little easier to figure this stuff out.
@bigbawls813 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks for sharing Big Dan.
@heted12 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
@randellwolfe4555 Жыл бұрын
Great video!, helped me as it was first time I have installed outlet in metal box
@randybarnes66612 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge buddy
@barryely1 Жыл бұрын
There isn't much knowledge here. This video should he deleted. Box isn't bonded and anti short bushing wasn't used.
@DJsHotRodFab Жыл бұрын
Thank you for passing on your knowledge.
@barryely1 Жыл бұрын
There isn't much knowledge here. This video should he deleted. Box isn't bonded and anti short bushing wasn't used.
@DJsHotRodFab Жыл бұрын
@@barryely1 you are correct. I used anti short bushings on my wiring and bonded all metal boxes
@kenjares67193 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I was looking for this info
@barryely1 Жыл бұрын
There isn't much knowledge here. This video should he deleted. Box isn't bonded and anti short bushing wasn't used. I hope you search for other videos showing the correct way of doing this.
@JohnThomas-lq5qp2 жыл бұрын
Best practice is to use the two provided 6 - 32 screws to attach receptacles to metal cover rather then only the center screw that usually comes loose. After cutting Type AC or MC cable cut the sharp edge at a 45 degree angle then install red anti short bushing.
@ericarona8599 Жыл бұрын
Those screws aren't "provided"? It comes with only one in the center
@JohnThomas-lq5qp Жыл бұрын
The 1900 duplex receptacle covers that I purchased at several electrical supply houses always had two 6/32 screws along with hex nuts that often had flimsy lock washers attached or small piece of metal for 6/32 screws to screw into. I always had a plastic hinged storage box that contained an assortment of 6/32 & 8/32 screws, flat washers, hex nuts & lock washers.
@ericarona8599 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnThomas-lq5qp The cover plates had those break off tabs that I just used and worked great
@timothymcvay72863 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@santiagodominguez25223 жыл бұрын
Good job!!!
@manuelfuentes87415 ай бұрын
Good job my friend
@mikeryan62772 жыл бұрын
Box needs to be bonded as well as grounding the devise, and MC Cable needs to be secured.
@cannoncolossus24492 жыл бұрын
Good comment. The ground should be bonded to the box and MC cable secured. The way presented in this video is potentially dangerous in the long term and will not pass inspection. Otherwise good video.
@tot2600hrs2 жыл бұрын
Forgot the anti chaffing grommet inside MC cable.
@sercansakizoglu96710 ай бұрын
exactly he didn't ground the box right ?
@NYTROeast Жыл бұрын
Should you be doing a jumper from the ground to the box so the box is grounded also since it is a metal box fastened to a metal building?
@fatherappel17929 ай бұрын
I understand that the socket should be grounded to a metal outlet box. However, I've also read that you can never ground to the structure. So what should be done when using a metal box on a metal frame??
@domofishing93163 жыл бұрын
Notice the switch has bottom screw with yellow cap which would ground, but will it need a pigtail to the metal box to ensure proper grounding?
@bsmith85642 жыл бұрын
Yes on a raised cover.
@Steven-eh9qs3 жыл бұрын
I want more videos like this, hes seems very knowledgeable.
@JBarnes9173 жыл бұрын
To bad he missed the box being bonded with the ground. This is an NEC code issue.
@CHEECHMUN2 жыл бұрын
@@JBarnes917 So is an extra wire from the green screw, needed to go directly to metal box?
@JBarnes9172 жыл бұрын
@@CHEECHMUN exactly, there is a spot in the back of the box that a ground screw is made to go in. You can get pre made pigtails that have the screw and a short green wire on it.
@CHEECHMUN2 жыл бұрын
@@JBarnes917 Thank you!!!
@barryely1 Жыл бұрын
There isn't much knowledge here. This video should he deleted. Box isn't bonded and anti short bushing wasn't used.
@jimcole64232 жыл бұрын
You can use any jacketed conductors in a metal building that will be enclosed.
@LiloUkulele2 жыл бұрын
After my shop burned down I'm rebuilding with metal. Time to learn how to use shielded cable.
@JuanGarcia-nj9dk3 жыл бұрын
Whats was your investment this building including your concrete slab?
@Geno-j5g8 күн бұрын
Why didn’t you make hooks on the screws? 1st yr apprentice here I was always told to hook it this is so much easier!
@donaldlee67602 жыл бұрын
At 1:04 - that cutting disk reminds me of a dremel cutting disk. I wonder if one has a dremel tool and they don't need to cut MC cable as part of their daily job, then one could just use their dremel?
@michaelking42 Жыл бұрын
It would be very easy, but easy to cut the wire insulation as well.
@jesseexum10844 ай бұрын
What size fittings are these and where did you get them?
@sercansakizoglu96710 ай бұрын
did he ground the box as well ?
@jamesbrenneman68413 жыл бұрын
Thanks great video
@gguerrero5503 Жыл бұрын
What's the name of the fasteners used at 3:09 and following?
@imbradleymi2 жыл бұрын
What box is this? I would like to use them for my shop.
@pentagonlandscaping2 жыл бұрын
1900 box with bracket
@jasnapon10 ай бұрын
That outlet should be grounded to the metal box as well
@brandonm9223 жыл бұрын
Box wasn’t grounded, receptacle wasn’t wrapped in electrical tape on the conductors and ground should go up but everything else was right to me. Great way of explaining!
@trustme77312 жыл бұрын
Tape isn't necessary or required. There is no requirement for the position of the ground.
@ABflanagan5232 жыл бұрын
I agree that the box wasn’t making direct contact to the ground wire but the MC and metallic box is an equipment grounding conductor.
@JBarnes9172 жыл бұрын
@@ABflanagan523 needs a ground pig tail period… THIS WILL FAIL A REAL INSPECTION.
@jcjammer12 жыл бұрын
No red bushing before connector?
@jimchang93942 жыл бұрын
It's bounded,The 20 A receptacle with the gold clip is a self-bonding mechanism.
@Trumptrain2024Vance3 жыл бұрын
What company did you use for the building!!!
@keithharrington87152 жыл бұрын
As an electrical guy, I know that videos are there to inspire. Please do not take them as a step by step instruction as the code allows each building department (Jurisdiction) to adjust (interpret) the code as written. Many commentors pointed out several code misses: 210.8. Gfci for homes puts "out buildings" under garage requirements. 547. Is for "AGRICULTURAL BUILDINGS" with wiring method restrictions based on the animals kept there. Anyone can put a wire under a screw, but which screw is where the money is made. You can learn and do yourself, but calling the building inspectors or a local guy that just did that same job last week might get you a solution to a problem you never knew you had.
@OU8Aspark2 жыл бұрын
Can you tie multiple outlets together?
@jimcole64232 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@garbo896210 ай бұрын
And where are the two screws that come with the cover? Would not pass inspection in my area with just the flimsy single 6/32 screw .Hospital that I did a lot of electrical work in would only allow connectors that used locknuts. Smart using type MC cable that has a insulated copper real deal ground conductor verses the flimsy #16 or 18 guage aluminum wire that's inside type AC ( BX ) cable. You should have use a ground screw to ground the metal box. Extremely dangerous if the two 8/32 screws come loose or fall out then box is not grounded.
@timothymcvay72863 жыл бұрын
So how do you wire the panel
@JBarnes9172 жыл бұрын
If you have to ask here then you shouldn’t be doing it
@stevevojack90922 жыл бұрын
Using the 14 gauge stripper on the 12AWG nicks and compromises the conductor (especially when you rotate it), no anti-short bushing installed. What I expect from a 6 month apprentice.
@mattozx6rr2 жыл бұрын
The anti short bushing is only required on AC cable. You do not need it on MC cable if you use a roto cutter then clean the square end up for a flush mount in the connector. That said I would still use an anti short bushing just for extra insurance and peace of mind.
@Kevin-wj4ed2 ай бұрын
What are the violations?
@blacksteel24342 жыл бұрын
You didnot wrap your wire around the outlet screws what in the word
@nsbconstruction96983 жыл бұрын
No ground to the box?
@JBarnes9173 жыл бұрын
Glad I’m not the only one yelling at the screen. These residential rats shouldn’t be teaching.
@Faruk6512 жыл бұрын
these are hacks
@jcjammer12 жыл бұрын
I Always use metal conduit. No chance of getting snagged and unraveled. just my personal choice.😄
@joselovos6708 Жыл бұрын
@@JBarnes917 old stile
@JBarnes917 Жыл бұрын
@@joselovos6708 old? It’s illegal and it’s dangerous
@michaelblanton97824 ай бұрын
Where is the ground connection to the metal box?
@TheBigDanShow4 ай бұрын
Good question
@santiagodominguez25223 жыл бұрын
We build those metal shops where you buy yours
@CHEECHMUN2 жыл бұрын
I bought mine from Eagle Carports. I think you and 2 other guys installed mine in SC!!!
@santiagodominguez25222 жыл бұрын
@@CHEECHMUN awesome 👌
@santiagodominguez25222 жыл бұрын
What city and state
@CHEECHMUN2 жыл бұрын
@@santiagodominguez2522 Nichols, SC
@sammymiller5967 Жыл бұрын
You need to add a red ear on your MC cable first
@tomnorman5461 Жыл бұрын
It's called an 'anti-short bushing' in my neck of the woods. The snap-in connector he's using has this built-in.
@TerryRGraham9 ай бұрын
@@tomnorman5461 No, that built-in doesn't replace the anitishort bushing. It will fail inspection.
@JohnThomas-lq5qp2 жыл бұрын
No such thing any more in the NEC called a neutral. AHOLES changed one of the most common electrical term that was used for over a hundred years to " Grounded Conductor " . Best to spend a little extra & purchase at least Spec grade receptacles. Will last a lot longer. Now must use a torque driver or torque wrench to tighten All ELectrical terminals. Not a plug , A plug goes on the end if a cord to plug into a receptacle.
@christopherdegarmo98262 жыл бұрын
bond the box.......
@soullessdevice Жыл бұрын
Well yeah, everything is easy
@stevestewart381612 күн бұрын
At 2:47 he realized he fucked up lol
@F16_viper_pilot7 ай бұрын
Um, no ground to the box?? That ground wire should be attached to the box, not the outlet, and a grounding pigtail attached from the box to the outlet grounding screw.
@blainekeener61002 жыл бұрын
Counted 4 code violations
@randalladkinsАй бұрын
cool story
@garagekeys2 жыл бұрын
I don't think you should be using that MC cable if it's not going to be covered up, I thought that it was not supposed to be exposed locations where there can be damage
@caliguy15002 жыл бұрын
Section 330.15 states: Exposed runs of cable, except as provided in 300.11(A), shall closely follow the surface of the building finish or running boards. Exposed runs shall also be permitted to be installed on the underside of joists where supported at each joist and located so as not to be subject to physical damage. Type MC Cable without an outside nonmetallic jacket can be installed in an “other space used for environmental air” in accordance with Section 300.22(C). These cables can be installed either indoors or outdoors and in exposed and concealed locations. ... They can be installed in a cable tray or in any raceway.
@sammymiller5967 Жыл бұрын
You first need to ground your box then your plug in
@surferdude6422 жыл бұрын
I assume that the box is grounded by the mc, but you should use the ground wire to ground the box and there is no need to attach a wire or pigtail to the receptacle. When the receptacle is mounted to the cover and the cover is mounted to the box everything is grounded. The receptacle has a self grounding strap on the lower yoke. The cover comes with screws and nuts to mount the receptacle securely and you didn't use those. The screw connection between the receptacles becomes optional. The 20 amp receptacle is ok, but unnecessary, a 15 amp commercial spec grade would be my choice, 15 or 20 amp circuit, it doesn't matter.
@JBarnes9172 жыл бұрын
1. You need to learn difference between “grounded” and “bonded”. 2. That receptacle needs a ground wire going to the box. Please read NEC 250.146, cover mounted wiring devices are NOT considered grounded.
@surferdude6422 жыл бұрын
@@JBarnes917 Thank you for the comment, but I believe that it's justified in this case. See NEC 250.146 exception (A). If he was using a receptacle with a self grounding strap, such as a Leviton spec grade, exceptions (A) and (B) would apply. Am I missing something here?
@JBarnes9172 жыл бұрын
@@surferdude642 NEC 2005 Handbook commentary: The main rule of 250.146 requires an equipment bonding jumper to be installed between the device box and the receptacle grounding terminal. However, 250.146(A) permits the equipment bonding jumper to be omitted where the metal yoke of the device is in direct metal-to-metal contact with the metal device box and at least one of the fiber retention washers for the receptacle mounting screws is removed, as illustrated in Exhibit 250.52. Cover-mounted wiring devices, such as on 4-in. square covers, are not considered grounded. Section 250.146(A) does not apply to cover-mounted receptacles, such as the one illustrated in Exhibit 250.53. Box-cover and device combinations listed as providing grounding continuity are permitted.
@brents9272 жыл бұрын
I don't want the camera man's comments
@ourv96033 жыл бұрын
I bought a brand new house. The contractor was thoughtful enough to give me 5 outlets on each wall. The outlets are fed with 20Amp breakers. Each outlet is wired with yellow 20Amp romex. HOWEVER, each outlet is 15Amp. How that passed inspection is beyond me. I'm having to replace all the outlets with 20Amp. !
@frank4803 жыл бұрын
NEC allows the use of 15 Amp rated outlets on 20 Amp branch circuits.
@wheelzup75972 жыл бұрын
That will definitely pass code, it’s within spec.
@garagekeys2 жыл бұрын
I believe you are allowed to use 15 amps outlet on 20 amp circuit, just not a 20 amps plug on a 15 amp circuit can't do that
@donaldlee67602 жыл бұрын
FYI - the reason it passed inspection is because it is safe to use 15 amp outlets on a 20 amp circuit. Obviously it is dangerous to do the opposite (plug your 20 amp device on a 15 amp circuit and possibly causing a fire).
@KevinCoop12 жыл бұрын
@@TheBigDanShow You stayed metal buildings are required to have 20 amp receptacles on 20 amp circuits. Where does this rule come from?
@sammymiller5967 Жыл бұрын
The man seems like a nice guy but he is doing it all wrong do not do it his way
@justincloncs1116 Жыл бұрын
Box needs grounded
@effthegop Жыл бұрын
No "special tool" required. I retired after 45 years and never used a roto tool. Just bend carefully until the sheath comes apart and snip it with your sharp diagonal cutters. Quicker, easier and no extra cumbersome tools to carry.
@tomnorman5461 Жыл бұрын
Although 'dikes' will work in a pinch, a 'ROTO-SPLIT' is faster and does a much 'cleaner' job of stripping the MC.
@effthegop Жыл бұрын
@@tomnorman5461 Sounds like a wager :). I'll take it !
@hightowerelectricllc61323 жыл бұрын
FAILED! 1) No anti-short bushing for your MC 2) Receptacle is not GFCI protected, all garages need to be 3) MC cable not properly supported 4) Did not properly support the receptacle devise to the RS cover. That middle screw is not a means of support only the top and bottom yoke
@recon13143 жыл бұрын
The type of connector he used has a built in "anti short" sleeve in the throat. 100% on board with a fail for everything else
@jimyeats2 жыл бұрын
@@recon1314 That redhead at the end of the connector is just to protect the wires from the end/edges of the connector, you still need a redhead at the end of the mc cable where the wire would rub on that. Really truly.
@garagekeys2 жыл бұрын
Anti-short bushing I thought is not required with MC that is optional
@jimyeats2 жыл бұрын
@@garagekeys Maybe in certain codes and jurisdictions? Do you want your thinly coated wire rubbing on a sharp MC edge? Super easy and cheap insurance.
@garagekeys2 жыл бұрын
@@jimyeats yeah, I looked in the NEC 320.40 states AC cable needs the bushings not MC it's optional it looks like if you follow NEC
@markdesilvey4542 жыл бұрын
Many violations. Nowhere close to a professional install.
@Kevin-wj4ed2 ай бұрын
What are the violations? I want to learn.
@garyhobbs2493 жыл бұрын
He didn’t ground the box lmao
@morehp13 жыл бұрын
It’s a structure metal building the the panel is grounded to the structure, that box is screwed to the building, metal to metal, it’s grounded.
@garyhobbs2493 жыл бұрын
If you had your master electrical license then you’d understand
@ABflanagan5232 жыл бұрын
@@garyhobbs249 Seems you don’t. I agree good practice would be to run a pigtail from the box to the outlet for a solid ground but with a metallic box and MC it’s an EGC.
@JBarnes9172 жыл бұрын
@@morehp1 no ground screw or ground tail in box so it’s not bonded. Learn the difference between grounded and bonded…. When you get an electrical license let us all know
@garagekeys2 жыл бұрын
@@morehp1 is that allowed by code?
@DAVADMDAVADАй бұрын
I need tu git ma Prescribe fer ma medsin.
@oldnbroke1544 Жыл бұрын
You should pull this video...box isn't bonded, the receptacle is upside down...you sir are unsafe...
@JBarnes9173 жыл бұрын
Guy didn’t bond the box with the ground.. this is basic NEC code knowledge. You WILL fail an electrical inspection and it’s just not safe. He should stick to changing light bulbs.
@ABflanagan5232 жыл бұрын
Outlet is grounded due to the yoke making contact with the metallic box. I agree there’s no pigtail from the 12-2 to box and box to outlet but it is grounded, just not the way you’d expect.
@JBarnes9172 жыл бұрын
@@ABflanagan523 wrong… open your code book. 250.148(c) if you have a metal box it needs a ground screw and pig tail. Again this install will fail an inspection.
@Faruk6512 жыл бұрын
@@ABflanagan523 We use metal boxes for residential and commercial in Ontario, Canada. No plastic crap. And we have to ground the metal boxes and devices by code.
@ABflanagan5232 жыл бұрын
@@JBarnes917 250.146 (A) Surface Mounted Box. Where the box is mounted on the surface, direct metal to metal contact between the device yoke and the box or a contact yoke or a self grounding receptacle shall be permitted to ground the receptacle to the box.
@JBarnes9172 жыл бұрын
Wrong NEC 2005 Handbook commentary: The main rule of 250.146 requires an equipment bonding jumper to be installed between the device box and the receptacle grounding terminal. However, 250.146(A) permits the equipment bonding jumper to be omitted where the metal yoke of the device is in direct metal-to-metal contact with the metal device box and at least one of the fiber retention washers for the receptacle mounting screws is removed, as illustrated in Exhibit 250.52. Cover-mounted wiring devices, such as on 4-in. square covers, are not considered grounded. Section 250.146(A) does not apply to cover-mounted receptacles, such as the one illustrated in Exhibit 250.53. Box-cover and device combinations listed as providing grounding continuity are permitted.
@brandonrippeonphoto10 ай бұрын
No red eye; no box bonding. amateurs should not be making how to videos for electrical work…
@TheBigDanShow10 ай бұрын
Lol
@wisdomcalls247510 ай бұрын
Q. Shouldn’t you be bonding the metal frame building to ground due to lightning strikes 🤔
@terrydougherty70782 жыл бұрын
Please don’t follow any of these “tips”. Call a professional.
@garagekeys2 жыл бұрын
Do yourself a favor.... Call a pro
@theshop53315 ай бұрын
good grief
@TheBigDanShow5 ай бұрын
Lol
@trustme77312 жыл бұрын
Multiple code violations. Leave the electrical work to the professionals.
@trustme7731 Жыл бұрын
@@TheBigDanShow It doesn't meet the NEC requirements which are minimum requirements. Fire is not the only hazard with electricity.
@jaxchristian64088 ай бұрын
Ya . Keep it a secret. Act like you guys are the only ones that can install an outlet
@jessicakeefer5077Ай бұрын
Come down on your prices and we will 😌
@trustme7731Ай бұрын
@@jessicakeefer5077 Would you shop for the cheapest heart surgeon?
@trustme7731Ай бұрын
@@jessicakeefer5077 So, you are willing to live with, or die from, illegal electrical work?