Installing ReactOS in 2024 but Everything Goes Wrong...

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It's about time we take another look at ReactOS - the open source OS designed to be binary compatible with Windows programs. Let's see what I got myself into this time...
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00:00 - Intro
01:55 - Installation
06:24 - Setting up drivers
10:23 - A sign of what's to come
11:06 - Driver Drama
21:50 - Themes & Visual Styles
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29:03 - One last resort
39:35 - The Applications Manager
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@MichaelMJD 16 күн бұрын

Just wanted to quickly reiterate that the selection of the latest “stable” build (that yes, is from 2021) for this video was intentional. Yes, there are more recent nightly builds of ReactOS - but I wanted to use the most recent “stable” release, as it’s the one most prominently featured on the ReactOS website, and is what most people are going to end up downloading should they choose to test this out. Nightly builds are even more experimental, and as stated on the site “you're more likely to encounter regressions at the cost of new features.” Because of that, I thought they were better saved for a future video should people be interested. And if you’d like to see that, let me know!

@birdbrain4445 16 күн бұрын

I'd love to see that. Not just for the utter catastrophes that may ensue, but also to see how they stack up compared to the latest stable release here.

@NoobixCube 16 күн бұрын

I would like to see a comparison of the current state of the nightlies versus the current stable release.

@karl-erikkald8876 16 күн бұрын

I would be interested! The driver system needs to be worked on (it's non-functional in its current state), and so any kind of feedback in any form could be handy. Provided a ReactOS developer/contributer watches the videos you upload.

@davidsalmons80 16 күн бұрын

Definitely would be interested in seeing that

@bmqww223 16 күн бұрын

I am so invested in this OS, thinking I might get my modernized windows 7 someday but the lack of interest of devs and other partners makes me very sad....I think of it as my favourite windows replacement since i am addicted to the windows ecosystem and given the future windows update it is less of windows....

@GoogleDoesEvil 16 күн бұрын

Wish you tried a nightly build, the release build is missing three years worth of updates. Unfortunately our release manager refuses to promote the nightly builds and also refuses to branch a new release so we're kinda stuck :(

@Klaeyy 16 күн бұрын

Sounds just like with Emulator releases, the stable ones are often years behind.

@DarkestVampire92 16 күн бұрын

Are the nightly builds stable though?

@Lampe2020 16 күн бұрын

@@DarkestVampire92 I didn't get any crashes with the nightly build half a year ago, and I would suspect it's not too different now. And otherwise you have one build for each night that passes, so maybe the issue wasn't there a few days earlier or later.

@GoogleDoesEvil 16 күн бұрын

@@DarkestVampire92 More stable than 0.4.14 thanks to some major registry fixes among other things.

@MichaelMJD 16 күн бұрын

I mentioned the nightly builds in this video but decided against using one as I wanted to get the latest stable build. Not opposed to trying the nightlys sometime though!

@windowsnt63official 16 күн бұрын

"Acknowledge that this is an alpha" reactOS will never exit out of the alpha stage.

@Soundwave142 16 күн бұрын

Like Star Citizen? Wait I'm probably insulting ReactOS..

@vogonp4287 16 күн бұрын

@@Soundwave142 I can't wait to run Star Citizen's release version on React OS's first Beta.

@pojunskii 16 күн бұрын

@@vogonp4287 LOL that is damn funny.. 🤣

@LastofAvari 16 күн бұрын

@@Soundwave142 Star Citizen is actually a playable game unlike this complete disaster that fails to do even most basic things after DECADES of development.

@ok-tr1nw 16 күн бұрын

@@LastofAvari well trying to reverse engineer windows fully is difficult, thats why wine depens on linux drivers

@fxckrio 16 күн бұрын

i love michael just completely ignoring the "WARNING INSTALLING A CUSTOM DEVICE MAY FREEZE YOUR COMPUTER OR RENDER IT UNBOOTABLE" lmao

@MichaelMJD 15 күн бұрын

Warnings? Where we’re going we don’t need warnings.

@repliqa__ 15 күн бұрын

Only errors count

@fxckrio 15 күн бұрын

@@MichaelMJD real

@Nurse_Xochitl 15 күн бұрын

I'm looking for a place to start And everything feels so different now Just grab a hold of my hand I will lead you through this wonderland Water up to my knees But sharks are swimmin' in the sea Just follow my yellow light And *ignore all those big warning signs* 🤣

@Canleaf08 15 күн бұрын

@@MichaelMJD it might be useful if you install drivers one by one.

@agar322 16 күн бұрын

"but Everything Goes Wrong..." Of course, it wouldn't be a Michael MJD video otherwise, that's why we are here

@sumabich721 16 күн бұрын

I think the "everything goes wrong" part is pretty average for reactOS videos.

@thedave1771 15 күн бұрын

ReactOS and Michael MJD were made for each other.

@phreapersoonlijk 14 күн бұрын

We enjoy the pain.

@MaxPrehl 14 күн бұрын

Love Michaels vids for exactly this reason

@kpcraftster6580 14 күн бұрын

@@sumabich721 This, unfortunately.

@mikeonthecomputer 15 күн бұрын

Snappy reporting "Windows XP 64 (32-bit)" is a result of ReactOS presenting itself as a version of Windows that never existed. See the banner on the desktop, reporting NT 5.2. Microsoft's 32-bit NT 5.2 only existed as Windows Server 2003; 64-bit NT 5.2 came in both Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP Professional x64 varieties. By selecting "Workstation" in ReactOS's setup, it sets the ProductType in the registry to WinNT (as opposed to ServerNT), and because ReactOS is targeting NT 5.2, that combination results in a SKU type that never existed in Windows itself. Snappy is probably seeing NT 5.2 and ProductType=WinNT, the only valid combination from Microsoft existed with Windows XP x64. But then, being a 32-bit operating system, it makes a non-sense sounding term appear in the installer.

@planethac 16 күн бұрын

Good Video but there are three things that are infinte - The Universe - The react os dev cycle - The WinRAR test version

@ChaseMC215 16 күн бұрын

That's more Sun Tzu's job than Einstein's.

@PragmaticLudusian 15 күн бұрын

@@ChaseMC215 Considering he wrote the art of RAR

@nathanpremo 14 күн бұрын

You forgot The Star Citizen Dev cycle as well.

@TotorRuns 7 күн бұрын

Whats with the Mario Kart Double Dash Rainbow Road clouds

@saiv46 5 күн бұрын

The last one is false actually. I've witnessed how WinRAR falsely gave message about "corrupted" password-protected .rar file, but after activation it started working without a hitch.

@ebridgewater 16 күн бұрын

If this is a build from 2021, you should also consider making a video on the latest 2024 nightly and see if there are any improvements.

@orora667 16 күн бұрын

there are !

@softwarelivre2389 13 күн бұрын

Please! +1 for 2024 version

@minuteworld7027 3 күн бұрын

@arlisbloxer05 16 күн бұрын

an everything going wrong video about reactOS? well now this is just getting far too easy

@lordkaczuha4598 16 күн бұрын

yeah thats too easy. i had to go trough like 3 dvd drives in my laptop to even get it to install and dont even get me started on installing any driver. the only driver that *worked* was the wifi driver but that would hardlock the os any time i tried to connect to a network that wasn't password protected

@lordkaczuha4598 16 күн бұрын

or even password protected

@kreuner11 16 күн бұрын

What I really want him to find the simplest computing task like installing Word and finding a way to brick his pc while doing so

@KaneLivesInDeath 16 күн бұрын

I assume that reverse-engineering Windows NT code is exceedingly difficult... Because that's the only explanation I can think of as to why it's still in Alpha after 26 years of development.

@CharleighCopley 16 күн бұрын

@@KaneLivesInDeathAccording to LTT and the Wikipedia page, yea it’s reverse-engineered. But I am not trying anything on my devices that is still in alpha. Already ruined enough machines (including two $2500+ gaming computers) thanks to the Windows 11 beta years ago itself 😅

@KenEvangelista 16 күн бұрын

Nothing gives me a heart attack more than the "Safe Mode" failing into a blue screen. Cool OS. lol

@kyoudaiken 16 күн бұрын

Reminds me of Windows 98 (Not SE) and Windows Millenium... :D

@Vienna3080 15 күн бұрын

Hopefully you make a follow up video using the latest Nightly Build, it is infinitely more stable then the 2021 release

@MichaelMJD 15 күн бұрын

I’m planning on it, and thanks so much for the super chat!!

@Alacrysta 12 күн бұрын

I hope it happens.

@minuteworld7027 3 күн бұрын

@@MichaelMJD can't wait bro

@Retroelectronic 16 күн бұрын

ReactOS would be a brilliant alternative to trying to find and install old versions of Windows on older systems, however even now nearly 30 YEARS after development began, it is just not in a state where it can be considered an alternative to those old versions of Windows.

@brokeredneck 15 күн бұрын

Having known of reactos for a long while, ~decade, iv always wished it would actually be a fully functional direct replacement to modern windows. Like graphic drivers and all working for modern hardware. Obviously an extremely tall order, but would be cool to see.

@brokeredneck 15 күн бұрын

@ericwood3709 15 күн бұрын

@@brokeredneck We do have such an alternative. It's called Linux.

@JustGausS 15 күн бұрын

@@ericwood3709 Only Linux hates Nvidia drivers, is overly complicated and is uncompatible with tons of software

@Shadowofthedark847 15 күн бұрын

@@JustGausS well nvidia has now added open source support for linux and the proprietary drivers work perfect. Its quite easy to install those proprietary drivers.

@Alef.93 16 күн бұрын

I remember testing Reactos in the middle of 2006. It's amazing how everything, apart from the look, remains exactly the same as I remembered it. Kudos to the developers for still spending so much time on a system that is clearly far from usable.

@porcupinepunch6893 15 күн бұрын

This is an old build in this video

@TheCustomFHD 15 күн бұрын

The issue is that we have not enough active developers, and our release management is kinda absolute crap (and ignoring that the website isnt promoting the nightlys, which are 3 years of updates infront)

@andybrassell85 14 күн бұрын

@@TheCustomFHD Just out of interest. How far do you think we are from a version of ReactOS that it is possible to use as a daily driver? Do the nightlys fit that bill?

@greenmountaineer 14 күн бұрын

@@porcupinepunch6893 4.14 is 16 years newer than whatever release was available in 2006.

@nepdisc3722 16 күн бұрын

please do a video on the newest nightly build PLEASE I want to see what this looks like with 3 years of updates

@ottergauze 16 күн бұрын

ReactOS is so cool in concept and I have empathy for the devs that they're essentially trying to remake Windows from clean-room reverse engineering but DAMN did they bite off more than they can chew

@TheCustomFHD 15 күн бұрын

Our dev team is like 7 active people.. and people are not interested in fixing this up, because all thats shown, is it being broken.. (the nightlys are way way newer and massively less broken (not not broken though.))

@Alacrysta 12 күн бұрын

@@TheCustomFHD I love what you guys are doing. 7 people making an OS. That's incredible, especially with the breadth of needed compatibilities to make a windows NT compatible OS.

@TheCustomFHD 12 күн бұрын

@@Alacrysta (ill have to note that "7" in this case was a rough guess, but there doesn't seem to be much more of actually active people that often and repediatly develop for ROS atm.. inactive devs we have some more obviously.) And while i say "our" or "we", all im really doing is keeping up with the community and developers, as im interested aswell in what they are doing, and because i wish to help some day aswell.. but yeah ill see to forward the positive feedback-

@aliceholmes4952 16 күн бұрын

lol ReactOS has given me tons of issues in the past trying to get running on older hardware. Great video!

@collinabrams262 16 күн бұрын

It would genuinely be cool to see a project like ReactOS take off one day, what with all the problems modern Windows has and the fact that Linux is not exactly a drop-in replacement. Sadly it probably won't ever happen. Oh well. We can dream I guess.

@LastofAvari 16 күн бұрын

Not in this century :D

@donkey7921 16 күн бұрын

You know he's trying a 3 yr old version right?

@Azuris190 16 күн бұрын

Yeah, would be really cool to have a independent "Windows"

@artvandelay1720 16 күн бұрын

The only real benefit of ReactOS is native driver support. With how good Linux's driver support is these days and DXVK providing a fast replacement for DX, you might as well just use Wine. For gaming, Linux is almost a drop in replacement for Windows now. You can just launch steam and 90% of games just work out of the box. Modern competitive games with anti-cheat tend not to work though.

@karl-erikkald8876 16 күн бұрын

@@artvandelay1720Well, ReactOS's 'native driver support' is very flaky, to say the least, and will continue to be for awhile...

@ReactOSCommunity 15 күн бұрын

Hello from ReactOS team! Thank you for the very nice and thorough video! Your efforts are truly appreciated! However, could we kindly suggest a tweak to the title? It might unintentionally mislead viewers, especially those new to the project. While it may seem like you're testing the operating system in 2024, it's clear that 0.4.14 isn't cutting-edge for that year. In actuality, you're testing the system based on its 2020 codebase. Since then, the project has made significant strides in stability and compatibility. ReactOS version 0.4.15 is on the horizon with a massive list of changes, and it will be set to release relatively soon. Anyone eager to explore its improvements can check out the nightly builds.

@shockwave952 15 күн бұрын

It's not really fair to call this video misleading when the ReactOS website markets 0.4.14 as "our latest and greatest".

@SuperArt1st 15 күн бұрын

@@shockwave952 they mention the caption, not whole video. The caption could be misleading

@shockwave952 15 күн бұрын

@@SuperArt1st What's misleading about it though? It's 2024 and he downloaded the version that's recommended on the project's official website. I'm not trying to be mean about it or anything, but I do think that the team needs to resolve whatever internal issues are preventing them pushing more frequent stable builds. That way they can avoid situations like this where people are trying outdated versions.

@SuperArt1st 15 күн бұрын

@@shockwave952 you are right, but..... This is not a dispute about politics, where you can appeal to anything, including someone’s organizational problems. This is computer science. Version 0.4.14 is 99% based on code not from 2024, but from 2020. That's just a fact. Let's be careful with the facts and try to avoid slippery statements and understatements

@nikkiofthevalley 9 күн бұрын

@@SuperArt1stWhat? They're just talking about what is on the website. If something is marked as "nightly" it's implied to be a less stable, not recommended version. Why would (what is effectively) a demo video show off the versions of the OS that aren't recommended?

@philtkaswahl2124 15 күн бұрын

So we got a Michael, and he's attempting to install a jank not-Windows OS. Michaelsoft Binbows LIVES!

@Rouxenator 16 күн бұрын

7-zip can unpack most self-extracting executables and installers.

@darkside6450 15 күн бұрын

That floppy wall is absolutely glorious

@CedrinMedia 16 күн бұрын

One thing I love about ReactOS is the people behind it do watch videos like these and give feedback. I made a video about ReactOS once and they gave some feedback.

@WindowsSurfaceOffcal 16 күн бұрын

00:00 Including WinRAR's free trial

@pardonless 15 күн бұрын

And "Activate Windows" popup

@markusTegelane 11 күн бұрын

And Visual Studio load time

@lvl90dru1d 16 күн бұрын

8:45 "the application failed to initialize succesfully"

@Abrissbirne66 15 күн бұрын

That does make sense when you think about it.

@NTSuperbyte 15 күн бұрын

Average windows error:

@tauon_ 15 күн бұрын

no that does make sense

@michaelp_c 14 күн бұрын

this gives off "Task failed succesfully" vibes lmao

@tauon_ 14 күн бұрын

@@michaelp_c not if you re read it

@docnele 16 күн бұрын

Thank you. I tried ReactOS when I was in my mid 30's and I see not much changed now when I am in my early 50's, so I don't have to do that myself again. I guess I should check this channel if anything is new when (if?) I am in my late 60's-mid 70's.

@Mempler 16 күн бұрын

I hope you used the nightly build, the latest "release" build is 3 years out of date. which was released 16 December, 2021

@vkvo2000 16 күн бұрын

He didn't.

@Mempler 16 күн бұрын

@@vkvo2000pain, in my experience; the latest nightly is much more stable and works much better than the latest release.

@DavidWonn 15 күн бұрын

43:32 I can explain the menu duplication and inability to type here. The OS thinks at least one of your Control and Alternate keys are stuck down. I've verified that you can duplicate menus on Office 97 (on actual Windows) by holding those two keys down. The fix is to press and hold both Control, Alternate, and Shift keys for a brief second and then release. It's an old trick dating back to the DOS days whenever the OS thinks any keys are stuck.

@MichaelMJD 15 күн бұрын

I didn’t know you could duplicate the menus like that under Windows, that’s pretty funny! But now that you mention the stuck keys, I think that’s exactly what was going on

@paulstelian97 14 күн бұрын

The keys being stuck thing rings true even on modern software and hardware. While I never had to do it on my current Apple Silicon Mac, I wouldn’t be surprised if it will happen at least once during its lifetime.

@BrendonGreenNZL 7 күн бұрын

@@MichaelMJDNot on Windows generally; is a feature specific to Microsoft Office, first debuted in Microsoft Office 2000.

@winterhell2002 16 күн бұрын

The 16-bit programs that require NTVDM would run if you install WineVDM from the ReactOS Application Manager.

@MrMegaManFan 16 күн бұрын

"But everything goes wrong" should be a MichaelMJD t-shirt.

@TheCustomFHD 15 күн бұрын

10:00 filesystem and registry corruption. Hard off were a big nono in 0.4.14, mostly fixed in 0.4.15

@kFY514 16 күн бұрын

The idea for ReactOS made some sense in the late 90s/early 2000s when the project started. Hardware support on Linux was a mess, so aiming for driver compatibility was a sensible goal. Nowadays pretty much all hardware works on Linux, so Linux with Wine is much better option for running Windows apps without Windows. Especially after so many Windows version have been released since the XP era that ReactOS is trying to recreate.

@zoomosis 16 күн бұрын

Another easy option these days is to run Windows in a VM under Linux, which wasn't really a viable option in the early 2000s. Windows 8.1 and earlier run very well under VirtualBox. I've used this method to do USB passthrough for a flatbed scanner that didn't have native Linux support.

@kFY514 16 күн бұрын

@@zoomosis That requires a Windows license (or the willingness to pirate it) though, which kind of defeats the point - if you _have_ Windows, you never needed ReactOS in the first place.

@zoomosis 15 күн бұрын

@@kFY514 I buy my PCs used and they all have valid Windows licenses so that's never been an issue for me personally. Though if ReactOS was primarily designed for people who want Windows but don't want to pay for it, that's a pretty niche target demographic.

@kFY514 15 күн бұрын

@@zoomosis Why else would you clone Windows from kernel to GUI? Maybe "not want to pay for it" is a bit of an oversimplification, there's also the philosophical aspect of open source code and freedom/security/transparency/etc. that comes with it - although people who care about that probably aren't too keen on running all those proprietary Windows drivers and software that ReactOS was designed to run. So... yeah. The project idea never was particularly sound, especially in retrospect.

@1pcfred 11 күн бұрын

I started running Linux in 1995 and it was way better than what I'm seeing here.

@lukedavis436 16 күн бұрын

i primarily do testing of the Nightly builds on certain types of hardware you may have seen some of my tests on the ROS twitter account, while i don't class myself as a member of the Dev team as such, i would say it's compatibility with certain devices out of the Box is impressive

@idaho6992 16 күн бұрын

A video of reactOS running on the Xbox xould defo be interesting and would shed some well deserved light on that project, I'd love to see reactOS fully working and running xbe executables at the same time, that would be next level...

@ImNyroxx 16 күн бұрын

Not even started it but seeing that's a 55 minute long "but everything goes wrong" video I know I'm gonna like it

@katrinabryce 16 күн бұрын

With those driver installers, usually they extract to the temp directory, and clean up when you exit the installer. So have a look while the installer is still running, and copy it elsewhere. I use that method a lot to install 64 bit XP drivers on Windows 10/11.

@Everything.Windows 14 күн бұрын

Looking at the development, 0.4.15 will likely be release in quite a long time in the future since the team are really doing under-the-hood changes with QA along the line. Perhaps it's still buggy and unfinished, but that's what you can expect from voluntary non-profit open-source OS

@O5-XIV 16 күн бұрын

11:00 And now, for a taste of things to come

@agar322 16 күн бұрын

23:58 - You can also just drag the Luna theme from a XP install and it will work quite well. I've tried it myself on a VM.

@MrPowerGamerBR 16 күн бұрын

50:15 the version you have is 32-bit! However, the installer itself is 16-bit, if you manually copy the files to the hard disk and manually create the registry entries, the game works fine. (it has some load/save issues in newer Windows systems however, but there are fan made patches to fix this bug)

@MichaelMJD 16 күн бұрын

Yes… but it’s not solely 32-bit, which is what I was referring to.

@MrPowerGamerBR 16 күн бұрын

@@MichaelMJD yeah what I wanted to say is that there isn't other "official" versions that are 32-bit only (including the installer)

@ThatLinuxDude 16 күн бұрын

28:50 Pretty sure it was waiting for you to connect a debugger, since it very likely 'checked, while in Debug Mode hence why it hung visually (because iirc you would have the debugger command whether the kernel continues running or not).

@dashcharger24 16 күн бұрын

I'm confused why you didn't pick the unstable builds, as they should be more stable, since it's in beta anyway.

@popmoock1122 16 күн бұрын

I'll always watch anything going wrong with any OS install haha, great video!

@gamingwithjason_ 8 күн бұрын

Wouldn't be an MJD video without everything going wrong

@atarixle 15 күн бұрын

One for ReactOS: I was observing this project almost from day one. And I loved how it progressed from a once command line only, to a graphical, and later to an online available system. I use it from time to time in a VM to test how some apps work in ReactOS - and they do! Mainly GPL software seems to run fine, but what I test the most is Altirra (THE authentic Atari 8 Bit Emulator). Even the sound works, if you install the VBox sound driver from the Software! Managaer.

@milesthepeacefulinkling286 16 күн бұрын

Looked up the last BSOD code, it means that there's a memory leak issue.

@RJARRRPCGP 14 күн бұрын

0x000000B4 appears to mean pretty much the same thing as 0x00000116 in Vista and later. (0x00000116 is VIDEO_TDR_FAILURE)

@fuegonomics2536 16 күн бұрын

It can actually boot to desktop on bare metal now in some cases. That's progress. BTRFS tends to work smoother in my experience btw.

@lucymorrison 16 күн бұрын

when i'm in a being unusable challenge and my opponent is ReactOS

@amazedsatsuma 16 күн бұрын

@MichaelMJD 2:33 regarding that video suggestion...if none of your original xbox are working or if want to add another layer of jank...there is Xemu the orignal Xbox emulator

@therealjammit 15 күн бұрын

I've found out using the executable to install drivers will always fail. You either have to manually extract the files or install it on a Windows machine and copy the files onto a thumb drive.

@jimkoutso2008 16 күн бұрын

Hey Michael what you tried was a release builds that has a bugs that are resolved in nightly builds It would have been better to try Nightly builds to give it a better chance

@MayaPosch 16 күн бұрын

The moment I saw him honestly suggest using that ancient release build my heart sank. I get that the ROS developers wanted to switch to a longer release cycle, but it results in ROS n00bs usually picking that crusty old release build. Renders this whole video pointless, basically, since it's no longer 2021 or 2022.

@thedave1771 15 күн бұрын

ReactOS 0.4.14 is what ReactOS themselves offer on their website, so it’s the solid “end-user” choice because it’s what a normal user will start with. It’s unfortunate, but it’s not on MJD.

@bungeetaco 15 күн бұрын

I would have tried loading the driver .inf files directly rather than using the OEM setup executables, since the executables might have been trying to read non-existing resources.

@Mariuszgamer 16 күн бұрын

I had problems installing reactOS 6 years ago but I installed it on virtual machine 5 years ago and it works

@legofanlovessayori 16 күн бұрын

Kind off expected cause that build is from 2021. The nighty builds offer more features and crash in less comedic ways.

@MayaPosch 16 күн бұрын

Yeah, ReactOS used to release quite regularly, but for the next release they went for a long release cycle, which means that the current 'nightly' builds are so far ahead of the latest release build that it's not even funny. I have been running the nightlies in VirtualBox now and then, and the progress is noticeable. I even get things like audio working instantaneously after an install without fuss. Using the 2021 release seems just like masochism...

@golimonkey 15 күн бұрын

Is there no option do add inf driver files with device manager. Like Action -> Add Legacy Hardware???

@cassiuscartland 16 күн бұрын

You know its a long video when it ends with: but Everything goes wrong

@jakeholtham1801 16 күн бұрын

I've gotta see a video on the nightly! Seeing other commenters mention it has me so interested.

@VIVIVI920 13 күн бұрын

+1 for a video on the nightly builds. 🙂 Totally understand why you chose 'stable' though.

@WiiUGamePad 16 күн бұрын

it isn’t an MJD video without everything going wrong.

@kiaan00008 16 күн бұрын

i love the videos keep up the good work and the floppy disks in the background why did you choose this background it still looks nice but ?????????

@gumbyx84 15 күн бұрын

Couldn't you use 7zip to extract the drivers from the self-extracting executables?

@paulwarner5395 14 күн бұрын

Thanx for the video. I downloaded the files and installed it in a VM and it installed OK except for the audio driver. After a reboot it intermittently freezes and has to be forced shut down.

@Kisai_Yuki 13 күн бұрын

Traditionally: 1. Install chipset driver (INF) FIRST. Some computers, especially around the P3/P4 era do not operate correctly without this installed because the INF installs the power management and USB and other stuff on the southbridge/PCH 2. Install network 3. Install GPU 4. Install Sound Sound is the least important, and usually the most fiddly because many of the sound cards are actually bridge cards (eg ISA to PCI, PCI to PCIe) so if it's a bridge card that means it needs the bridged driver installed before it can found the sound card. Which is why these sound cards are often these monster of installers and not simply a "discoverable" inf file. In practice, unless the MB is something exotic, (eg RAMBUS), you should probably try to find the latest INF, Network, and Sound drivers for the motherboard from the manufacturer's website. I suspect the reason the soundmax locks up is because it's running into a wall in trying to install the MIDI, and you might rescue the OS install by actually turning it off in the BIOS. Sound Blaster PCI cards are super fiddly. You need an exact 1:1 match for the card.

@DOSdaze 16 күн бұрын

Would be very interested in seeing this using the nightly build instead of the "stable" release.

@DeanWilliams1987 15 күн бұрын

what keyboard are you using? it looks very much like my Tulip keyboard which I use with windows 11 lol (love old keyboards).

@anikazkhrv 15 күн бұрын

at least this thing can run Doom and Monika can explore the whole ReactOS without any blue screen slapped in her face (actually I have to recompile the whole thing for a year and let DDLC run in scripts)

@RyanGrange 4 күн бұрын

I remember having that set of speakers at work. They got nice and loud when the sales floor left for the day.

@entryofemotion12 15 күн бұрын

Seeing this I feel like them calling this the "stable" branch might be a little bit of a stretch. Considering the NUMEROUS problems, I feel like seeing a few nightly builds through the years to re-explore some of these things to see if they're still issues could be interesting.

@trannusaran6164 14 күн бұрын

ReactOS mentioned! Love when folks shine a light on this project :3

@tookeydookey 16 күн бұрын

I'd love to see a video of you installing ReactOS on an original XBOX!

@Bboy10110 16 күн бұрын

"Hopefully this'll be the only time we have to reinstall" Foreshadowing is a narrative device in whic-

@Dragonfire511 15 күн бұрын

New MJD video dropped, baby!.

@wandering_coder6356 3 күн бұрын

Your patience is legendary. Great video!

@p01arst0rm 15 күн бұрын

yo @michaelmjd why you gotta call out the broken themes llike that? i got distracted

@suchaluch5615 5 күн бұрын

I love your demonstration of exotic OS... Am I allowed to bring a feature request? I'd love to see some vids about - Amoeba - Plan 9 - multics - minix (also from Tanenbaum :-D )

@Queeph 15 күн бұрын

I have a similar machine in terms of specs and for some reason I can never get any reactos cd to finish the setup it always freezes when "loading drivers"

@st0nedpenguin 14 күн бұрын

The endless reinstalls are causing late 90s Linux install PTSD triggers.

@pelgervampireduck 15 күн бұрын

Some drivers installer wizards can be extracted and you can get just the drivers if you open the exe file with winrar or 7zip, right click extract or open. I've done that to have just the drivers on folders or on zips a lot of times. I find those bloated install wizards unnecesary.

@johnthefactfddict3281 14 күн бұрын

the driver installer issues is likely only because there is no "windows/system32" folder after all you are using a WINDOWS installer if the packages could be redirected dynamically to "reactos/system32" it might work perfectly every time

@zigmeisterful 15 күн бұрын

I would have attempted to extract the driver files from the setup.exe or cab files using 7zip or winrar. Setup.exe files are usually just self extracting archives.

@blackandredsword2698 19 сағат бұрын

honestly this really does remind me of using windows 95/98 back in the day. so many problems with drivers and blue screens and reinstalls lol. id say these guys are on the right track but they still have a long way to go

@joe--cool 15 күн бұрын

@28:10 Safe mode without graphics driver is called VGA, like on XP. The option was right there.

@Mitsou44 15 күн бұрын

I love this project. I hope more voluntiers will contribute.

@jakelewis3561 14 күн бұрын

Would you be able to run a windows upgrade on react? As if you were upgrading from XP to Vista? As react is is so compatible with windows stuff

@paulstelian97 14 күн бұрын

It would be hilarious to see _how_ it fails. There’s probably a million reasons but I’m curious what will actually do it.

@theITGuy-no3nt 15 күн бұрын

It's fun watching someone else talking it through with a display.

@Jahades 4 күн бұрын

For your sound blaster driver, have you tried looking in the application manager? Last time I fooled around with reactOS there was drivers in there.

@Tsaukpaetra 15 күн бұрын

46:19 yeah, that's if you're actively editing the menu, so something must have triggered that toolbar edit mode

@lacriaturadekentucky 16 күн бұрын

Hey, MJD, I don't know if you'll see this, but do you think you could talk about a BSD OS one of these days? I feel it would be pretty interesting.

@smyry 15 күн бұрын

When I see “Everything Goes Wrong” on an MJD video…I feel like a new man

@didikohen455 12 күн бұрын

A few ideas: 7-zip should be able to extract the drivers from most installations, a shorter way to get to device manager is to right click on my computer and choose manage (at least on Windows, never tried it on ReactOS), when a video driver causes a BSOD, the VGA mode is the way to troubleshoot it, and it seems you haven't tried it.

@superfeel1275 15 күн бұрын

This is one if those projects where the idea is incredibly tempting, but the short term gains are so small that not a lot of people want to contribute. Lots of people dream that it will omr day achieve 2003/XP parity (and more) and then go with forward compatibility until it supports all of the newest windows apis. That would be huge if it were to happen, closed source operating systems would never recover from that.

@Z098 15 күн бұрын

For SimCity 2000, if you go in the WIN95 folder on the CD that should be a 32-bit installer.

@laurensnieuwland4657 16 күн бұрын

They so desperately need a Windows Update equivalent. I am pretty sure that if they can patch existing builds quicker, the project will become way more popular.

@Shrapnel_Music 15 күн бұрын

I didn't get to watch all. Did you try to Install it from the .ini file?

@danielivanov930 15 күн бұрын

snappy driver usually fails to install graphics drivers ,tried both nvidia and amd . It shows the avaliable gpu driver but you need to manually install them .

@jacobscheit4128 16 күн бұрын

Just a little advice from 15 years of fixing broken windows installs because of driver shenanigans, install only one driver at a time, reboot, check for stability issues and then when everything checks out move on. And I know ReactOS is not windows but it behaves much like one when it comes to drivers. Also you should install the Chipset driver if your plan on using PCI or the ACPI Table might not get set correctly and the devices will not initialize and the system will freeze. Annotation: I just seen you get Code 39 that means as mentioned above that you chipset driver is missing and that means the Tables as not set to the Board specifications and can therefore not initialize because it uses the system defaults.

@generallyunimportant 13 күн бұрын

idk if it's the same thing on ReactOS but on windows not having anything plugged into the audio port on the pc usually makes windows not even try to output everything

@aaldrich1982 16 күн бұрын

Unrelated but related. I upgraded to 4090 FE from 4070Ti TUF OC. Both using 12vhpwr. I used EZDIY-FAB extension cables which had been working fine with my 3070 but when I switched to the 4070Ti I started getting blue screen/reboots because the GPU wasn't getting enough power. I got rid of the extensions and won't ever bother with extensions again. Didn't need pretty cables when I had a PC in the 90s and running a 3dfx, don't need them now. Performance and reliability are top priorities.

@dabombinablemi6188 15 күн бұрын

Even under Windows, with the Live Value! cards you need carefully select the driver or they either won't detect, or various files will fail to register and then you are greeted with a Windows Protection error on startup. Using the CT 4830 and CT 4670 under 98SE has been enlightening. Pretty frustrating outside of Windows XP where they work flawlessly.

@rockpie 16 күн бұрын

when i tried installing it on my pc it couldn't even get past the language selection due to it hanging edit: since when did the intel desktop board get installed onto the pc? i thought you once said you wouldn't replace it

@tauon_ 15 күн бұрын

that's the board it came with

@rockpie 15 күн бұрын

@@tauon_ oh