Installing Rope Seals

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AlchemistLair

AlchemistLair

11 жыл бұрын

Description and installation of the crankshaft rear oil seal.

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@6h471
@6h471 6 жыл бұрын
The end crush on a rope seal happens when you torque down the cap after trimming the ends flush to the cap and block with a razor blade. I've installed dozens of these over the years in the car, as well as out of the car, and I never had any trouble with them. I think the trouble most people have with them is that they pack the seal too tightly into the groove, probably expecting to be able to spin the crank by hand. Not gonna happen with a rope seal, but they loosen up when running. I've never soaked a rope seal in oil either, not necessary. In the car, loosen the main caps, allowing the crank to drop down a bit. use a sneaky pete to pull the seal up and around the crankshaft while turning the crank, tighten the caps, leaving the rear one off, trim the ends flush with a razor blade, install the rear cap, and you're done. Actually for some applications I like the rope better, and for sure better than the viton seals some use. I've just seen way too many viton seals with the lip split off them because the material doesn't stand up to heat well. The newer silicone based seals work great though. A properly installed rope seal will, in many cases, outlast the engine.
@jillfuller2115
@jillfuller2115 6 жыл бұрын
Pete 913 C.
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@wtbm123
@wtbm123 11 жыл бұрын
I remember when we used to install rope seals to fix rear main leaks. A lot of motors are 1 piece seals now. We used a tool called a Sneaky Pete. It was used when installing a rope seal with the crank still in place. Cool vid.
@joepacheco4038
@joepacheco4038 5 жыл бұрын
Have done this installation many times. Forklift service for 40 years. Use to leave one.end short in grove an one end longer on mating piece to form a circle. Remember to form seal with a dowel
@AlchemistLair
@AlchemistLair 11 жыл бұрын
Found that tool on eBay years ago and it does make it easier than using a socket!!
@jevchance
@jevchance 11 жыл бұрын
Good info, you make it look easy!
@1cyberrider
@1cyberrider 5 жыл бұрын
A friend who is familiar with rope seals told me that it is a good idea to let the rope seal soak in engine oil for 24 hrs before installing. I don't know, its what he said. He owns a couple of WW2 military vehicles.
@wtbm123
@wtbm123 11 жыл бұрын
A lot of mid seventy's trucks with the 351M motors the rear seal leaked. The best longest fix we found was a rope seal. We put in quite a few rope seals with a very good success rate.You still have to loosen some main caps but not all that bad.
@AlchemistLair
@AlchemistLair 11 жыл бұрын
I used to live aboard my 41' Morgan Out-Island Ketch rig with a Perkins diesel auxiliary and had to pack those propeller shaft boxes quite a few times. Boat sank in Miami when Hurricane Andrew hit there!!
@JohnCarey1963Jag
@JohnCarey1963Jag 11 жыл бұрын
Good tip on the rope seal install, thanks
@AlchemistLair
@AlchemistLair 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Did you have good success with it sealing?
@stevesmyth6748
@stevesmyth6748 7 жыл бұрын
Hi all good video yep been doing rope seals with graphite for twenty five years on large pumps not a lot of difference in doing my 253 holden a lot of piss farting around eventually had to buy another as the first one fell apart after removing to many times but I new what was to be expected of this seal and yes these seals will last many years if installed correctly the dollies mandrel etc help but experience out weighs any tool My only tools were a knife very sharp a nylon mallet and the bearing shells and many hours and patience
@gregg4164
@gregg4164 5 жыл бұрын
That is what those two round openings in the cap is for. they are anti rotation holes for the seal to expand into. Fuck that drilling the cap shit. Thats nuts.
@thetree7777
@thetree7777 11 жыл бұрын
Great, thanks for posting
@peanutbutterisfu
@peanutbutterisfu 2 жыл бұрын
When you have a regular rear main seal use some rtv or high tack around the outside metal part of the seal, press the seal on and ur good for a very long time. Also buy a seal from the dealer.
@AlchemistLair
@AlchemistLair 11 жыл бұрын
It's interesting reading the procedure for replacing the rear main seal while still in the car from the Pontiac Service Manual. Doesn't sound like much fun!! What was your success rate?
@AlchemistLair
@AlchemistLair 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Levman74
@Levman74 5 жыл бұрын
Speed up the video to 1.5, you're welcome
@firebird70
@firebird70 6 жыл бұрын
Whats in that technical bulletin that you mention during your vid. U had to use rope of your crank or your block ?
@Garagemonkey11575
@Garagemonkey11575 3 жыл бұрын
I placed a putty knife flush with the surface of the motor and took one of my wife’s serrated knives and it made a nice straight even cut and cut quickly
@rosswaring2835
@rosswaring2835 2 жыл бұрын
You took your wife’s knife from the kitchen?? - you’re a brave man Dennis.
@AlchemistLair
@AlchemistLair 11 жыл бұрын
Nice, What's it goin' into? I've been sitting on this one for far too long!!
@AlchemistLair
@AlchemistLair 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@gregg4164
@gregg4164 5 жыл бұрын
You also do NOT want a crush. Remember this is your rear MAIN CAP. It needs to be all the way down.
@AlchemistLair
@AlchemistLair 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@AlchemistLair
@AlchemistLair 11 жыл бұрын
Actually, after you mentioned the stroker kit for the 400 I remembered someone had done a video on a 400 stroked engine, then I put together that it was you!! Went back and re-watched it ( Cheator40 Project72 18 ). That's going to be fierce 461. I'm using many stock parts on mine so it will not be the serious performer yours will be. Can't wait to see her go together and running!!
@mummyjohn
@mummyjohn 5 жыл бұрын
How much time did it take you to get the cut clean? I worked on each one (so four total) for 10-15 min each, and still have a shaggy, disgusting cut. Brand new out-of-the-box razors still felt like I was trying to cut a piece of glass with a stick of butter, IE almost useless. Is there some secret here?
@user-ms7um1ge5j
@user-ms7um1ge5j 5 жыл бұрын
I think they must be using something like kevlar or some similar fibre. I had the same problem. Two different new razor edges WOULD NOT cut that stuff. Just frayed hopelessly. I read somewhere to use dykes. I had a small cheap pair from ebay with well fit jaws that worked quite well. If the jaws are not sharp and very closely fit it likely won't work. My problem now is that the Fel Pro rope seal for an F209 Continental it too fat. With the groove filled it locks up the crankshaft even before the cap seals on the cork pan gasket. ???? I'll try to find a smaller rope somewhere. Frustrating, I need the forklift.
@donaldalbershardt6854
@donaldalbershardt6854 5 жыл бұрын
Just the way that is. Its GARBAGE in my Opinion, I'm Building a 292 Ford and it Takes about 60 lbs Torque to turn it over I dont know how the starter is going to turn it all over???
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay 4 жыл бұрын
@@donaldalbershardt6854 your starter has a giant flywheel it cranks against. The large flywheel attached to the small crank ads a lot of leverage and torque so it might feel like it needs 60 lb of torque if you're turning it after Crank but once you got that flywheel installed it's a big difference
@donaldalbershardt6854
@donaldalbershardt6854 4 жыл бұрын
@@woodsandbarclay I had a 2 foot Breaker bar on it .But now I have one of BEST seals that I'm going to try next Thanks.. Also I've done these one early SB Chevys With only Slight Drag and ZERO Leakage , I tried Victor and Felpro on the 292. Both were very tight. I'm hoping the BEST will make me Happy 👍 Later JT.
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay 4 жыл бұрын
@@donaldalbershardt6854 I'm currently struggling with the same issues on an old diesel Mercedes engine that I'm rebuilding. It also uses a rope seal and it's a complete pain in the ass.
@martysheets6882
@martysheets6882 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the how to Brother.
@RobsPackanShine
@RobsPackanShine 11 жыл бұрын
Good stuff
@gayrunnycumstain
@gayrunnycumstain 5 жыл бұрын
if i had a rope seal for everytime u said ""umm" id open a fucking lasso school.
@abimopectore3560
@abimopectore3560 6 жыл бұрын
does this make the crank harder to turn when in position and tensioned????
@donaldalbershardt6854
@donaldalbershardt6854 5 жыл бұрын
Yes very much so!! Pain in the AZZ junk Seal!!
@AlchemistLair
@AlchemistLair 11 жыл бұрын
It's a Buick, Olds, Pontiac thing!
@AlchemistLair
@AlchemistLair 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!!
@carlodonnell146
@carlodonnell146 10 ай бұрын
Is a rope seal used when the OE seals dont stop leaks anymore?
@egSmith-sp9gl
@egSmith-sp9gl 8 жыл бұрын
12:00 get that blade out a bit more !!!
@gregg4164
@gregg4164 5 жыл бұрын
That is why they give you that type of razor knife. So you can extend the blade out very far in order to keep it flat on the block and cap surface so your cuts are perfectly straight. With the blade this guy used there is no way he got straight cuts. i would also had put an old rear main bearing in the cap and the block when I was bashing the seal in. Especially with that tool. You can easily do some damage to the bearing seat surfaces in the block and cap. One slip and you got a nice dent in your cap or block, not good for the bearings.
@1shorte4wssj21
@1shorte4wssj21 Жыл бұрын
QUESTION.... I CANT GET A STRAIGHT CUT ON THE ROPE SEAL. IS IT BAD THAT IT FRAYS? I BOUGHT BRAND SPANKIN NEW BLADES AND IT FRAYS. SHOULD I BUY A NEW REAR SEAL?
@alexandreangelo978
@alexandreangelo978 3 жыл бұрын
What the size of little piece above the blade (to cut thr rope?)
@maxpowerta3183
@maxpowerta3183 10 жыл бұрын
The Best Gasket graphite seal is the only one that lasts anymore, If you used the fiber Glass one that comes in all the Gasket sets It WILL eventually leak Guaranteed.
@williamklein1221
@williamklein1221 4 жыл бұрын
Rotate the stick 90 degrees and it will not split.
@angieburke3601
@angieburke3601 10 ай бұрын
@johndoe43
@johndoe43 Жыл бұрын
Newspaper has a good video on rope seals in willys Jeep engines
@gregg4164
@gregg4164 5 жыл бұрын
The old asbestos seals worked better because the friction heat didnt do fuck all too the seal.
@Yaheuben66
@Yaheuben66 11 жыл бұрын
I have never seen a rope seal (automotive) before...
@marksimmons3801
@marksimmons3801 5 жыл бұрын
glue the template to the block so it dont move
@gayrunnycumstain
@gayrunnycumstain 5 жыл бұрын
listenin 2 this guy talk is like pulling teeth.
@johnnychavez2181
@johnnychavez2181 5 жыл бұрын
you're an IDIOT.
@johndoe43
@johndoe43 Жыл бұрын
In my other comment the word metalshaper came out as newspaper. Don't know why but it's metalshaper
@gregg4164
@gregg4164 5 жыл бұрын
Your camera can not focus when you hold it that close too the parts. there is no need to get that close in the first place.
@marksimmons3801
@marksimmons3801 5 жыл бұрын
widget !!
@johnmartin116
@johnmartin116 Жыл бұрын
Get a no leak rear seal and be done….. js…….😎…. These rope seals are thrash…
@gianniagnelli2014
@gianniagnelli2014 Жыл бұрын
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@bobcollins1475
@bobcollins1475 9 жыл бұрын
If you are going to use the OEM rope seal design,you must like leaks or replacing rear main seals. I would never go with another rope seal. You should have have installed the rubber seal upgrade. A little more money, but no more leaks.
@michaelsmith8065
@michaelsmith8065 6 жыл бұрын
My Chevy 292 binds I have to use a rope seal
@donaldalbershardt6854
@donaldalbershardt6854 5 жыл бұрын
He said he can't.
@donaldalbershardt6854
@donaldalbershardt6854 5 жыл бұрын
I can't go to RUBBER on this 292 Ford Either.
@donaldbell9102
@donaldbell9102 2 жыл бұрын
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@SKOPE915
@SKOPE915 6 жыл бұрын
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