that's actually easier. the backhoe should already be plumbed at the "power beyond" port with two hoses going to the rear of the tractor, one is pressure to the backhoe, one is return back to the tractor. follow the hoses back and (on my MX4800) is an aluminum block just under the r/h side of the loader. undo just the hose that is pressure "out" to the backhoe"- the pressure "in" side of the 3rd function valve hooks in to there, the "return to tank" side of the 3rd function valve hooks to the backhoe "pressure in" hose that you removed in the first step.... and if i remember right the pressure side of the backhoe hoses is the one with the male side of quick connector. hopefully this helps .

They cringe when I do.

We was the Royal "We" ha ha ha nice walk through...

How do you like the Land Pride kit?

@@MrManic52001 it's a good quality kit zero complaints installation instructions aren't that great but I figured it out I saw a new Kubota LX series tractor that had a Kubota brand 3 rd function on it had hard steel lines on parts of it opposed to all hoses on the land pride and was very well set up with guards etc not sure it's available for the L series or not may be something to check into if you're looking

@@mattcanfield6384 yeah, i am about to drop the dime on an L3301 DT and i am mulling having it plumbed from dealer OR diy. Did the kit come with all the hoses and wiring?

@@MrManic52001 it came with everything but the couplers you pick which style you want to match your equipment it's a pretty easily install if your halfway mechanical and understand how third functions work and how the oil flows

@@mattcanfield6384 thank you

Smart. The OEM valves also have this.

@Jordon Carlson Trade school? What's that? Is that where they teach new "techs" how to charge their laptop for diagnostics and email the factory tech support for help when they don't have step-by-step instructions with pictures?......I've got guys with 10 years plus in equipment work who still think every hydraulic fault starts with "the oil in the tank must be low"!

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@@MessicksEquip Could you talk about how an afterMarket dual lid Grapple could negatively effect the Kubota Hydraulic system. I have a L4060 Grand with the Dealer installed Kubota 3rd function valve, Hyd FEL autolevel and a Backhoe that I am using to carry some Huge Red Oak logs to my neighbors sawmill. My backhoe is a great counter Balance but it now leaks like a sive and now the Backhoe bucket is swinging to one side. I feel like when I hit a bump in the road the FEL/Grapple is sending a hydraulic Shock to the system. Am I harming my Tractor.

Probably have bad couplers

@@MessicksEquip that’s what my local hydraulic shop said so I spent $70 to replace the new ones that had came with the 3rd function kit no difference

Damaged 3rd function solenoid then.

Yes, I didn't think they were using floor jacks

I am. This is pretty typical of the one-size fits many valves. The OEM ones (when available) are cleaner.

@@MessicksEquip I would like to Point out that the OEM on my L4060 Grand hangs low to the ground and has two hoses that I worry about snagging on the downed trees that Im still trying to clear from Hurricane Michael Way down here in NC! ( Don't tell anyone Neil but I'm a transplanted Pennsylvania Countyboy from Schuylkill Co) LOl P.S. The Christmas light show is the Best around. Worth the drive home!!!

There is a style that does exactly that, they are harder to use.

@@MessicksEquip thank you for the reply. I would not be happy with that product. I guess I am too much of a neat freak to have that type put on my bx23. I would want the factory style installation where there would not be any extra hoses on the loader and the quick detach would not be impacted.

lots of companies that do, but not Kubota directly.

My LA1153 has the option at the rear so i was just going to have some lines made and use some zip ties that will hold the line to to the tractor. I can unhook them from the grapple when i change back to the bucket.Im not sure why i would need this.

You can, its hard to operate like that

Messick's I have my grapple set up like that and it’s not a big deal since my 3rd SCV control lever is right below my loader control but I would agree if your rear SCV control is somewhere else, I got Green and Yellow tractors, reason I’m asking was my buddy just bought a 3901 Kubota and wants to install a grapple like the setup I have, thanks for reply !

Yes

Messick's is there a chance you could do a video on that accessory?

I've done dozens of videos on BX Kubota's.

oil will flow the path of least resistance down all 3 circuits. Its pretty challenging to do them all together.

parts, all over. Pretty far to send equipment.

Kubota only offers kits for current machines. We use these on old tractors, or weird brands.

I've seen it rushed in about 90 minutes, 3-5 hours if doing a tidy job.

working on a video to show differences between different brand valves. These are cheaper than OEM, but less shielded and not fit quite as well.

@@MessicksEquip Looking for a OEM kit for a L4760. Are they available and come with install instructions? If yes and yes please provide a part# for the kit.

@@happyrecluse2849 on several month long back order. We can get them from WR long in 7 to 10 days. 8772603528

It is. I bought an LX3310 and moved the kit from this tractor to that one.

The new LX model has a 33 HP, but not released yet. While there are many happy owners of B3350s, the reality is it's quite a way short of 100% happy. The warranty work was killing Kubota I think, and some of their dealers too. They're available second hand if you particularly want one, but most people would tell you to wait for the new model.

sounds like a bad solonoid.

you might put a pressure gauge on the return port of the valve to see if something is causing pressure on that side. next i would move that pressure gauge to one of the grapple hoses and try again, unhook your grapple and from the quick connects and hook in your pressure gauge to one side of the quick connects, start the tractor and pressurize the hose with the gauge, when you let off it should hold pressure- if it bleeds off right away you might have a bad 3rd function valve.... maybe (more than likely) you have a hydraulic cylinder bypassing? the other way to tell is to take one of the hoses off your grapple (undo it from the quick connect on the tractor and remove the quick connect on the grapple side) and direct it into a bucket, then pressurize the other side and see if the fluid keeps bleeding off. pressure gauge should be able to handle 5000 psi.

Yea, we generally use LandPride on the models where its offered. WR has a bunch bigger offering .

@@MessicksEquip on an L3301 would the kit come hard line plumbed or would it be hoses? I know the new LX look sharp very clean but I expect the L series to be more function over looks.

Hoses on the land pride kits. Oem has hard lines.

@@MessicksEquip so for an l3560le it is an option?

@@TommyOmallet yes.

Email your info to parts@messicks.com

That is a very good question that I myself am wondering.

T the PB port

that's actually easier. the backhoe should already be plumbed at the "power beyond" port with two hoses going to the rear of the tractor, one is pressure to the backhoe, one is return back to the tractor. follow the hoses back and (on my MX4800) is an aluminum block just under the r/h side of the loader. undo just the hose that is pressure "out" to the backhoe"- the pressure "in" side of the 3rd function valve hooks in to there, the "return to tank" side of the 3rd function valve hooks to the backhoe "pressure in" hose that you removed in the first step.... and if i remember right the pressure side of the backhoe hoses is the one with the male side of quick connector.

Yes you can! 800-222-3373. Ask for nate.

@@MessicksEquip Thanks Neil, spoke to Nate the other day. Very informative conversation and outstanding customer service. I'm gonna go with a Land Pride 380-152A kit to get the two button control versus Wr Long's rocker style switch. I may need to have one hose made up to make it work or maybe not. Still figuring that part out. Hopefully I can use the kit in it's entirety and make it work. Also like how your website states the quantity of the various kits you have in stock. That's awesome.

Yo Neal I installed that 380-152A kit on my B7800. Had to tweak the mounting bracket and add two fittings. Bought a Worksaver 48” grapple, had two hoses made up for it and now everything is working well.

Yes

We did not finish the web pages yet. To order call Nate @ 800-222-3373, opt #1.

worked in IT for a few years, mostly contract work for the state. Decided I hated sitting behind a desk and doing 2 hours of work in an 8 hour day.

Yes and it is a little neater and better protected.

messicks.com/part/380-152a/kubota-std-l-series-third-function-valve-kit

@@MessicksEquip Neil will this work on my B2601 with a BH70 Backhoe or does the backhoe use the extra port?

@@mikehobbs8625 You have the T the port.

FWIW: i have the same "Kubota" kit...... the valve is identical, the only difference was the control switch handle. has two buttons instead of a rocker switch.