“Okay so jay’s a douche, but he has good ideas” 😂 well spoken my friend. Excellent build and results! Let the war of the [ionic] currents begin. My V2 will need to beat this.

Video Idea: What about a small jet engine (from a RC airplane) shaft connected to an electric generator? Calibrate it to run on ethanol and you´ll have a carbon free electric generator 🙂 - Also keep in mind that tomatoes are disgusting

In order to improve your "bladeless fan" you should space the anode unequally from the cathode. the more you add a stage the more you need to space the anode from the cathode. it make sense because the particles are accelerate at every stage so at every stage they come in with an higher velocity. The same princip is used in the cern accelerator. I hope this will help Sorry for the possible grammar mistakes I'm not English

The secret is airflow. The grids and cathodes need to become increasingly smaller in each stage. I thought criss-crossing the grids would be OK, but it results in turbulence. You also need to create an airfoil on the surfaces in order to achieve optimal airflow.

I think we should work on building it's outer shell first.. Then we should go over the noiseless jet

One thing to probably note is that this will generate a lot of Ozone while it's running, probably best to continue your experiments with a fan in the window to circulate air. This is the same principle in which old air purifiers work.

I love this guys goofiness, the outfit, the way he acts and speaks but it’s still in a way that teaches you stuff. Awesome channel (: stay true to yourself and keep doing what you love!

Fabricate a duct to direct the air and then add a Venturi similar to the Dyson to see if you can increase the air speed.

I guess the next step would be a true bladeless jet engine

Would be interesting to see how it performs when all stages are encapsulated in a tube (so you do not loose any air flow to the sides). Another idea would be to rotate every second stage by 90° to get more even static pressure across the surface area of the outlet. In addition you could put a nozzle at the end of the outlet to increase air speed.

Love these guys who do all their shop work without ever putting on safety goggles. Five years from now there are going to be a lot of KZfaqrs wearing eye-patches.

On a whim, I decided to ask GPT4 if it had some ideas for optimising the design. These are some of the suggestions that seemed to have some merit: Pulsed operation: Operating the thruster in a pulsed mode, rather than continuous mode, can help reduce energy losses. By applying high voltage in short bursts, it is possible to generate strong ion acceleration without creating excessive plasma or initiating unwanted chemical reactions. Optimize dielectric barrier: The dielectric barrier plays an essential role in preventing direct electrical discharge between the electrodes. By optimizing the properties of the dielectric barrier, such as its thickness, permittivity, and breakdown strength, it is possible to minimize energy losses due to plasma generation and chemical reactions. Use of magnetic fields: Incorporating magnetic fields can help guide and confine the ions more effectively, reducing the likelihood of unwanted plasma generation and chemical reactions. This can be achieved by using permanent magnets or electromagnets in the thruster design. Active cooling: Implementing an active cooling system can help maintain optimal operating temperatures for the thruster, reducing the chances of unwanted plasma generation and chemical reactions. This may involve the use of heat sinks, heat pipes, or other cooling methods to dissipate excess heat generated during the thruster's operation.

Maybe if you used grids in descending diameter, inside a cone like shell open on both ends. This might be enough to make use of the Venturi Effect to accelerate your airflow.

Biggest fan here, out of every dangerous episode, nothing makes me more nervous than that tie so close to power tools, stay safe my tuga friend!! Keep inspiring the next generation and entertaining us all 😊

Back in the 1970s I used a 10,000 volt oil furnace transformer. To make something like that. Glass jar wrapped in 600 volt wire. Inside of jar covered with aluminum foil. You could feel the wind at the top of the jar opening. Still have the transformer. Will have to try your setup. Great video.

Two safety things: - First, never ever push something past the edge of a table saw without a push stick. Do this religiously, and one day it'll save your hand. - Second, never wear a necktie when operating machinery. At the very least, tuck it inside your shirt so it can't flap around.

Technically, it is not only a bladeless fan but also a particle accelerator. That would be an interesting development :)

It's a great idea. Especially if you want to slowly dissolve what the fan is pointed at. Mind the ozone, Integza!

You'll definitely have to turn this concept into a full fan that you could use all the time, that'll be awesome to see

I was relieved to discover you did these experiments with the garage door open. ...also every great scientist needs a Clara in their life for encouragement and inspiration 😉

Several tips to improve the fan: 1. Use a high grain sandpaper instead of razor. It will create more "sharpy" surface on the wires and should improve the performance by 10-20% 2. Use aerodynamics optimized design for enclosure. First easy way to do this - close the sides of your fan. Secondly, you can use wing-like curved casing (like in duct fans) on the side where air gets in - it will create low pressure zones and will help to suck air in more easily. With all this tweaks you'll go beyond 20m/s for sure. P.S. Also, instead of rods, you can just use one drop shaped smooth copper piece to improve air flow. Or just make the rods drop shaped.

Future video idea: Improvements to the generator: 1. Use iron shavings on the wires to increase surface area 2. Use springs instead of straight wire 3. Make a loop of ionic generators so they cascade in such a way to get super high speed (ie infinite stages like a resonator)

I just noticed that you are using cylinders as the ground terminals for the bladeless fan, and I think that changing the shape to aerofoils actually might increase the flow speed, thereby giving the air more energy when it separates from the ground. Sure, it would complicate building, but the improvements probably could be worth it.

I would like to see your take on the ionic levitator from that video. Acoustic levitation also seems pretty cool where small objects can be lifted only by the power if sound waves. Keep up the good work!

Question: How much power did this bladeless fan use? This is just to compare efficiency of a standard fan or "bladeless" fan. Would be interesting.

The round Pipes actually introduce a lot of drag. Try to give them an airfoil design. The biggest amount of air resistance comes from the turbulence behind the tubes, that's why in the original image they are only round on one side and pointed in the other.

You could use smaller versions of this fan to create a bladeless drone! That would be so cool and would impress Clara for sure!

Love it! As has already been mentioned, careful with the tie around spinning tools 😉👍🏻

Future Video Idea! 🎉 We want a 3D printed RC vehicle that can travel by air, land and water! 😁

IDEA#1: Instead of the thin wire going straight across, wrap the thin wire in a coil around a thin insulator about the thickness of a toothpick. (basically replace each thin wire with a coil of thin wire - to get more surface area). score the coils across with a sharp blade like you did for the wires on opposite sides perpendicular to the the plane of ionic motion and score it the direction of motion (don't score the back). This will cause the pointy fields to pull in more ions of air than a single wire (kind of like a dyson fan) to amplify the effect (for the positive ions). Basically, you will play around with the laminar flow.

Love the videos, I would love to see a fully FDM printed project or a tomato smasher that uses magnets.

My sons and I have a few ideas. - how do sling rockets work can we apply that knowledge to something around our house? - how can you combine two engines on one vehicle? - can you make a water rocket that would carry a human?

I always thought it would be really cool to build one of these into a Tesla valve. Imagine the internal "teardrop"-like shapes as the high-voltage elements, either alternating positive/negative, or having the "points" of the main structure as the positive element, and the "teardrops" as the negative elements. I've actually had the idea in my head for while. Though I'm not *sure* when it first came to me, but I got really excited when I saw your video, because I think you'd be able to pull it off. You'd be the PERFECT rogue engineer for the job! I know how unlikely you'd settle on my idea for development, but how cool would it be if you DID?! At any rate, I simply had to share my idea, to put it out in the world. Maybe it will inspire someone else, even if not yourself. Cheers, and keep up the great work! Your projects and videos just keep getting better!

You can build a wind tunnel to use along with your bladeless fan. Wind tunnels rely on laminar flow to work properly, and this thing looks like it can generate a good laminar flow. It would be a cool integration of two projects. Nice work!

I use vacuum pumps/chambers a lot and using this type of air flow is a way of pulling an even stronger vacuum. Pushes air molecules towards the output to be removed.

Your videos are really cool the only downside i see is the eventual meltdown of plastic parts(past engine designs), here is an idea for you: put your brains into making the most compact fuelcell, which anybody can make at home. Use any of the styles: PEM, Alkaline, or solid oxide

I remember Mythbusters making an ionic lifter ages ago when doing myths around levitation, and they mentioned the ionization of air creates ozone, which apparently isn't good for you to breathe, so try to be careful with using that thruster as a "bladeless fan".

Try connecting the wire grid with the tubes of the stage before it. At the moment you are creating a backwards wind between stages. You increased the distance between the stages wich reduce it but you could stack them back to back if there is no voltage potential between the stages

It would be interesting to see what different blade shapes do on a fan or if you used actual airfoils for the blades.

It’s adorable that you build an entire woodworking project in a classic 1930s tux and tie 🤵‍♂️

When I saw you take the fly back transformer off the motherboard, all I could feel was a deep sense of pride. I am so proud of your growth Integza. You have taken the art of tomato hating to a whole new level. Keep learning and stay safe.

Very cool concept and great results! You should try doing a smoke test with your bladeless fan, I think it would look interesting!

Got me thinking about the number of scratches on the wires. There’s a fine line between polishing and scratching. If you hit it with a really course scotch-bite pad to get thousands of tiny microscopic scratches would that do anything or if the discharge nodes have to have a bigger surface area than that. If the size does matter, maybe a stranded wire through a dowel where you fray the ends of the wire and run it on slow could be a way to get slightly bigger scratches.

this mans here doing reckless science while having a face thats built for physical comedy... and that there is some kind of special combination. i love it.

Video idea: make a turbocharged camp fire

Real engineering has a fantastic video about a MIT team that powered a tiny plane using something very similar, so you could potentially track down a paper or two on the concepts. Also ion engines are very similar and fairly common in the space industry, so there is likely plenty of papers available on those too. Good work as always!

Nice safety tie! Colin Furze would be proud 🙂

It would be really interesting to see how powerful or efficient you can make this concept. For how simple the concept is, there’s surprisingly little information on this online.

For air handling, you'll want to create a duct for the air to travel through with minimal losses, i.e. put the contraption in a tube. You have a lot of interaction with the outside air via the sides right now. Plus you can drastically increase the air speed by putting a simple nozzle at the end of the stack.

It would be interesting to see how well the ionic bladless fan would work as the driver for the oval shaped diffuser on the Dyson "bladeless" fan.

@Intgza I recommend you making/getting a tie tack. While you were operating your powered equipment I was worried that your very cool looking tie might get caught in the works. Fortunately it did not. 😀😀 Great content BTW. Thank you. 🍻🥓🖖🏻

I haven't tried this, but you'd probably get better results if you switch to an ultra thin tungsten filament. Cut them into strips, then stand them up like hairs in an array. You may have to coat the wire in lacquer or varnish before cutting to only get the arc coming out the tips.

I wonder what effect (if any) rotating every other set of wire and tubes by 90 degrees would have? Or maybe even a gradual rotation throughout the stack. Would be interesting to see if you could create a vortex...

Design a wind turbine having Tubercles on the leading edge of it's blades. It has greater efficiency than simple blade turbines...

Integza, you always ask for soldering tips, so, one you already have have: soldering paste, this is not enough. you need a clean stained soldering iron tip to work with the paste. Use a copper sponge (palha de cobre, para os intimos) to clean the tip before each soldering. Make sure you have a shiny tip to make the solder

Great video! Here is a suggestion for a future one: Build an electric harmonica, using the reed plate of a harmonica as one of the electrodes of your bladeless fan.

Integza, you are essentially the sole content creator that has gotten me into my passion of engines as a whole! Thank you! Also Video Idea: I would love to see you make a thermo acoustic engine! It seems right in your alleyway.

Build idea: make a jet engine using household items. You could use HHO as fuel. A HHO generator is pretty easy to make with stuff found in a kitchen

Love your Nanami Kento cosplay.

You should use a dyson "bladeless fan" and replace the original motor with the fan you build. So you can maximize the air flow with the coanda effect and entrainment. Also maybe the wind will be faster when you hat up the negative wire so the electrones can get easier out.

Can you make a wind tunnel? So that in the future you can see how your projects' aereodynamic behave Is it possible ? This is my video idea Hope to see more videos from you Love y Integza

This is really interesting! I have so many questions; 1. How does the power consumption fair against a regular fan with similar power? 2. Is the air it produces warmer than the ambient room temperature? 3. What’s the noise level compared to similar regular fan? Also, could the same concept be used to make a bladed motorless fan? Great work as always!

Reminds me of the 'Ionic Breeze' bladeless fan and air purifier that was put out by Sharper Image back in the early 2ks.

Just an FYI, the geometry of the dyson bladeless actually multiplies the airflow of the small blades. The obvious next step would be to use this ion fan to power that same type of geometry.

From a safety standpoint, wearing a tie while doing woodwork (especially with any rotating saw) could end in catastrophe. One of the few lessons I remember from high school.

Definitely should do a collaboration with electroboom to test the "child safety" characteristics of the fan design.

Try enclosing the assembly so you make a wind tunnel type thing with an inlet and outlet. In the inlet try adding a bell mouth to improve inlet flow and reduce drag.

you can use iridium spark plug tip to increase ions, higher voltage always increase air speed, coanda effect also helps as in dyson fan

For a future video: it would be interesting to see if you can get the power to weight ratio to a point where you could control multiple fans individually and make an "ion copter"

You may want to use a crosscut sled on the tablesaw to cut longer pieces. A riving knife on the blade helps, but if the angle of the wood comes off at all it can fling the wood back at you and pull your fingers toward the blade. Love your videos ❤

Would toroidal design work? Like have the generating part be a round of wire and a torus of pipe be the receiver, and that could be put into a plastic tunnel (and with multiple stages). Making them smaller diameter in a conical design might also give some pretty impressive thrust. Purely in theory of course :D

Ionic win for the wind 🏆 5:47

I’m happy to see someone finally make this. This was in my journal for the longest time.

here’s an idea, try changing the distance from the two “dishes” and see how that effect performance. in addition to that try getting more voltage through it. if possible I’d also try different size wires and tubes, maybe using tin foil would work better instead of the tubing for sets in series. love the videos man, keep it up!

This man created a rail gun that shoots wind. Amazing.

I wanna see if you compress the air stream, if it can turn a turbine blade attached to an alternator to help with supplying power. Maybe use it on an RC plane even?

Hello Integza! I'm only 12 but I really like all your experiments! To win a 3D printer sounds great and could help me to make my own projects like you do. I have no influence on it, but I've got an idea for your next video. Can you make a plasma popper? You could shoot to your hated tomatoes ;-) It looks fantastic, especially in the dark and slow motion, and make a lot of fun. If you really build one, I'm shure that your video would help me to build my own small plasma popper. Have a nice day! I can't wait for your next video!😃👍

You could try to make an RC airplane with a motor type from all the ones you have made so far. Let's see a practical application of a motor

13:25 this is truly for the boys

The way he lit that match has me doubting my existence

I'm sure many people have said this before, but you should consider wearing eye protection when working with machining equipment. I used to work at a brewery and when pressing bottlecaps on bottles with a press, a shard of glass or metal flew off, bounced off the table and flew right underneath the rim of my eyeglasses and into my eye. I got lucky and didn't get any permanent damage, but after that I've always worn protective glasses in those situations. Sure, could have flown under that too, but it protects from a lot! Anyway, GREAT video! ❤️

This is like the ion thrusters NASA uses in space. You gotta send something to space for a future video, you’re already so close!

Came here right after the steel 3d printer video. Stay in school kids! This stuff is cool!!!

Fires in your attic, explosions in your garage - none of that is scary like seeing you do woodwork with a necktie.

If it makes wind it also produces thrust. Sounds like you have to make TIE fighter now!

I think the best improvement for the Ionic Bladeless Fan would be to make it a Ducted Bladeless fan so that the Air stream would be confined and Accelerated by each stage without loss or turbulence from the sides. simply enclosing it in a clear tube would help, and still let you see what's happening inside. making a tube that exactly matches the inner diameter of the printed frames in sections and then sealing it all together would be even better

About the flyback transformer from the TV, it has a built in rectifier diode, because CRTs work with DC also. They should put out around 25 - 30 kV DC.

Lifters don't use copper wire, but ionising wire, which I think is steel or tungsten. You could also use permanent magnets to speed up the flow.

Well since you want more flow speed what you could do is actually copy the Dyson fan, use the ionic thrusters as the base of the fan and point them up, and use a round diffuser to make use of bernoullis principle and have faster flow (a flow that passes through a lattice will create a low pressure area and will moce faster), also this way you can control hhe flow of air and increase the efficiency of the fan. Another way to imrove this setup is also to instead of using strings that go across to use a flat spiral of wire, like the shape of a conduction heater, and use perhaps smaller tubes to achive more surface area and to pregent the tubes from slowing down the air due to drag.

Congratulations. These lifters were one of my early passions. 🤩 I really wish they weren't subject to some of the physical limitations with higher energies and sizes. Otherwise these would be amazing in aircraft. If you're going to keep working on this, there's all kinds of room for improvement in your design. Surface along your flow channel is one of the critical factors you need to optimize in the absorption. Time is the critical absorption Factor not space. If you want optimized emission grids, I recommend looking at something called hardware cloth. It's a pre-woven wire mesh that will give you structure as well as increased emission surface. I also recommend hitting it with a coarse grit sandpaper. It's a lot less work than the razor but does the same thing

How this could be used in real world applications would be a video I would love to see! Truly amazing technology 👍💯

Enclose the blades on a tube, narrow the final output to increase pressure, mount the whole thing on a model boat and it makes a nice bladeless swamp buggy.

I've always been fascinated by the idea of a silent fan, how much noise does this make compared to the Dyson?

You should try making a internal combustion engine with multiple pistons and attach it to a vehicle of some kind

Integza is so good a at 3d printing

Build idea:you can send one of your projects to space by using a weather balloon you can put a camera to record the whole thing and put AirTag on it to track it when it lands I hope you pick this comment and your videos are so cool 😎

“and then i turned it into a jet engine… like i normally do”

I played a lot with the 'Lifters' when I was young and even killed one TV. On your drawing you showed that the second part should be a bit round but you took very thick tubes. I would recommend the Idea from the 'Lifter' and use something that is round at the beginning and then flat so you dont have that much resistance on the airflow. The Aluminium Foil (or copper plates) have to be bent over a round surface and then straight down. That will increase the pull on the plasma. You could even increase the effect when you use a increasing voltage on each stage (and a larger gap) because the wind on the second stage is already accelerated. When you have enough stages you will end up with someting like an linear accelerater.

I would like to see what happens if you swap the cylindrical tubs for ones that have an air foil shape. It would also be cool to see if you could increase velocity by adding a cowling around the intake and inclosing the rest. Maybe add some holes to the enclosed part to allow the Venturi effect to pull more air in.

Can you use HHO gas which is highly effective gas and produces H2O on heating it up! I have done experiments on it and it releases energy equivalent to the electricity supplied to it and it creates a implosive effect which gives a good shockwave and hence can be used as a fuel for your shockwave engines to propel it well. Also, it doesn't need any oxidising agent like any other fuel. Thus, it proves to increase the Efficiency of your shockwave jet engine. Producing HHO gas is very simple, use electrolytes like NaOH or KOH and pass DC current through it and let the gas come out from a single tube and there is your explosive gas ready for show. I hope you like this video and use this to improve your engine and your learn more out of it. Thank you, I love your videos a lot and it gives a lot of knowledge about engines and many more things.