Intel Core Ultra Explained

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Intel's Meteor Lake Core Ultra mobile chips are here, and they're exciting! Nearly DOUBLE the iGPU performance but... at what cost? And what is an NPU? And why are they changing the name? And when will this video description be over?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:17 Gaming Performance
4:15 Productivity Performance
8:20 NPU
9:30 Tile Architecture
11:30 NPU Benchmark
12:11 New Naming Scheme
14:20 Conclusion
16:31 Outro

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@LinusTechTips 4 ай бұрын

Clarification: While the Intel Core Ultra 7 155H can be configured up to a 65W TDP, it was running in the mid-30s during our testing on this device both in productivity and in games, for example reaching an average of 36W in performance mode during our Cyberpunk benchmark. We apologize for not including this information in the video. Thank you for watching! Sign up for an account at grammarly.com/LTT02. If you want to get access to extra features, get 20% off Grammarly Premium.

@YouTubetail 4 ай бұрын

I love you Mr Linustech

@Tophatguy_vr 4 ай бұрын

@@KZfaqtailsame

@Tophatguy_vr 4 ай бұрын

Itel

@Tophatguy_vr 4 ай бұрын

Itel

@Tophatguy_vr 4 ай бұрын

Itel

@davidpomerantz 4 ай бұрын

While the old naming was confusing, at least it was for new pc enthusiasts. Now it's confusing for everyone 😂

@donc-m4900 4 ай бұрын

Equal opportunity offender

@Liinuli. 4 ай бұрын

Old naming scheme worked quite well for the desktop CPU's. There's a reason why AMD basically copied that naming scheme. But intel did such a bad job at naming their laptop cpu's.

@Elijah1573 4 ай бұрын

@@Liinuli. In this case i feel like intel copied AMD Or at the least felt like they needed to change since AMD did AMD changed their mobile naming to be horribly confusing And now intel did the same Honestly should have just kept the old scheme on both platforms

@Bioniclema90 4 ай бұрын

I legit don't even care to learn what this new, sh*ttier naming scheme means -_-

@FAB1150 4 ай бұрын

I mean it wasn't that confusing, everyone including my mum knew that bigger number meant better and that there was i3 i5 i7. The only clarification I had to do was pointing out that no your i7 5820 isn't faster than a new i5 12600, because generations exists

@Gexps 4 ай бұрын

Can't wait for plus ultra cores!

@Tophatguy_vr 4 ай бұрын

Itel

@ps3guy22 4 ай бұрын

just wait until core ultra super-duper pro max plus

@danieloberhofer9035 4 ай бұрын

Intel's marketing department already behaves like a Ministry of Truth analog... don't give them ideas!

@astralghost8619 4 ай бұрын

my hero academia!!!

@suckmydickthatsrightyousuc1423 4 ай бұрын

Go beyond! (Beyond naming conventions making sense.)

@error-null 4 ай бұрын

PLEASE put some icons in the graphs. Just an intel/AMD/Apple logo will go a long way. I constantly have to look back and forth to see which number is which laptop. If a logo is in my peripheral vision while looking at the bars, that would help a huge amount.

@quanghuyvu2649 4 ай бұрын

You weak

@error-null 4 ай бұрын

@@quanghuyvu2649 💔 how could you... I thought we had something

@oo--7714 4 ай бұрын

Pay more attention to the video

@error-null 4 ай бұрын

Damn so much hate

@incred150 4 ай бұрын

@@oo--7714 it's a fking suggestion and honestly its a good idea

@nextnomura 4 ай бұрын

Remember when Intel says about "glued together" Epyc CPUs?

@ALPHABYTE94 4 ай бұрын

Pure cynism

@krazownik3139 4 ай бұрын

First gluing that I remember was an Intel Pentium D, so it was their idea

@DeinonychusCowboy 4 ай бұрын

I will never forget

@MMRSSM 4 ай бұрын

See the pinned comment. It was 36W. meteor lake is much more efficient than AMD.

@ALPHABYTE94 4 ай бұрын

@@MMRSSM 🤣😂

@ZxkreactiveonXbox 4 ай бұрын

I have integrated graphics

@Tophatguy_vr 4 ай бұрын

@simplescreem5530 4 ай бұрын

@jeremywp123 4 ай бұрын

Yes

@JayDpwnz 4 ай бұрын

They are up slightly earlier on floatplane

@andyk192 4 ай бұрын

It really just shows us how long videos being uploaded to KZfaq is delayed by.

@gorgorgonzales3090 4 ай бұрын

No word on batterylife? That was intels biggest problem in the mobile sector as far as I am concerned..

@leonro 4 ай бұрын

Agreed, though there might be some NDA where Asus or Intel don't allow reviewers to show battery life.

@LordNementon 4 ай бұрын

You had the consumption 28W for H, 15W for U

@danieloberhofer9035 4 ай бұрын

@@LordNementonWhich says exactly nothing, since these are cTDPs, anyway.

@lefthornet 4 ай бұрын

You can know for sure that battery will be worse, that Intel chip can consume by default double (65W) of the AMD (28W) and in turbo (117W) almost 5 times the AMD chip typical consumption (28W) and well the Apple chip is more efficient than the AMD one but consumes similar (average is like 25-28W and maximum usually 30W for general purpose and 47.5W for CPU workload). So yeah battery life will not be great. If the laptop allows it, the maximum for that AMD (58W) will be still half the turbo of that Intel CPU (117W) and well at that amount of consumption the Apple one will beat in efficiency both of them (48W). Not fair comparison or at least incomplete since they are missing a key point, not a hater, but those are the facts, I have seen LTT for a decade and this is bad. Also ignoring the fact that Ryzen 8000 for laptop is launching now and will beat even more Intel and get closer to Apple.

@thunderarch5951 4 ай бұрын

@@LordNementon Lol no, that's base tdp, but the 155H can boost up to 65w, and even turbo to 115w max over the pl

@DigitalJedi 4 ай бұрын

I'm super proud of what we've been able to do with Meteor Lake. Just like with Alchemist, this is a 1st-gen attempt at something really new from the old ways at Intel. I would expect some of your gaming stutter and encoding to go away with the full TDP. MTL is meant to be performant in areas that last gen wasn't, such as the iGPU and NPU, while maintaining competition with Ryzen 8000 and M3 where last gen did well. It looked like you laptop was pulling some punches, as as you mentioned, it was capped around 36W while the 1370P can draw 64W quite comfortably. I would expect to match the 1370P at 55W. I am more than happy to take questions about anything. For the NPU vs GPU question, that's entirely the expected and intended behavior. Think of the NPU like an E-core for the GPU when doing I/O. The tiles are my point of pride though. I'm not an architect in any form. I don't make cores or GPUs or anything like that. I worked on the physical interconnects between the tiles, and let me tell you guys, there's interesting stuff in there I wish I could talk about more. Hopefully I'll get to put a paper out on this around the launch window of Lunar Lake. When you mentioned modularity, I would like to point out that the sizes of tiles are not set in stone.

@FredFredBurger92 4 ай бұрын

Intel: "something something glued-together CPUs". My my, how the turns have tabled.

@ka_pi243 4 ай бұрын

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@dvongxx 4 ай бұрын

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@shlev13 4 ай бұрын

2nd

@Tophatguy_vr 4 ай бұрын

Itel is cool

@beardsntools 4 ай бұрын

This is the last video of handsome linus. No the beard was good, the earrings needed to go xD

@Jessev741 4 ай бұрын

@@dvongxx barbeque sauce

@corylyon545 4 ай бұрын

Why so kittle mention about the power modes. The 155H in perf. Vs. Std. Modes were basically different experiences.

@Deeppurp 4 ай бұрын

Hey LTT - you can tell Linus' LAV mic is being muffled by being under his hoodie. Tiles - Glue but intel branded!

@Bmoney861 4 ай бұрын

Audio sound a little odd on this one. A little more bass heavy and maxed out

@ivyx1786 4 ай бұрын

my cage was vibrating from the bass off my phone i had to turn it down im in that slumped lazy phone propped on my sternum mode

@cbennett1 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I have a dual 18" Sub and it's uncomfortable.

@hex8675 4 ай бұрын

i thought my sub was busted or something LOL @@cbennett1

@GTRGTX999 4 ай бұрын

I've got an 18" as well, but luckily it was turned off, highs are muffled at the 3:45 mark as well. Horrible audio.@@cbennett1

@AllahDoesNotExist 4 ай бұрын

They want Linus to sound more masculine.

@Randomness662 4 ай бұрын

Just to reiterate for that bit at 2:13. CONSISTENT FRAMES > HIGHER FRAMES I will always take 30fps over 60 that's constantly dipping to 5 or 10 every couple of seconds

@GameTimeWhy 4 ай бұрын

100% agree.

@eniff2925 4 ай бұрын

It would have been more fair to run the intel laptop on vulkan as well, considering apple runs on that. In vulkan It would have destroyed the competition even in 1% lows.

@iamarussianguy 4 ай бұрын

Were the 1% really that low?

@sugonmaballs 4 ай бұрын

Same, unless you happen to have a VRR display. Then I'll take the unlocked 40+ FPS performance instead.

@superslash7254 4 ай бұрын

Depends on the range. 60 dropping to 5-10 every few seconds is unplayably stuttery, 120 that drops to 80 ever few seconds is a lot less noticeable.

@rmbw5452 4 ай бұрын

It was this searching that got me to watch this channel in the first place and I subscribed. Still watching even if I am not smart enough to know what you talk about but it is worth watching.

@MightyScharp 4 ай бұрын

I really need to say that editing on this video is absolutely amazing!

@zacari99 Ай бұрын

thanks

@purewater_ch 4 ай бұрын

no way ludwig's bidet is in LTT store now

@davidgoncalvesalvarez 4 ай бұрын

It’s been there for weeks xddd.

@TrevorColeman 4 ай бұрын

Everybody poops 💩

@ijmad 4 ай бұрын

Save on your shi**ing. By which I mean shipping.

@kice 4 ай бұрын

They lost the bro vs bro emails, and got bidet in LTT store instead?

@gobrieltv 4 ай бұрын

ludwig bidet tips

@FlameMage2 4 ай бұрын

I'd advocate for doing a bit of coloring for the Y-axis on the charts. We're seeking out the Intel Core Ultra 7 155H (Std. and Perf. Mode) by reading 5 lines of white text some. The video is all about that though so why can't the processor's name be in yellow or something to quickly say "hey it's this one/it's these two look here" faster so we can shift our attention to the bars. Even the bars could have distinct coloring but that might be too loud looking idk.

@FinneasJedidiah 4 ай бұрын

I think having different color bars is a great idea. Makes it super readable. Especially if they say "Core Ultra is Blue, apple is red, last gen Intel is green" or something like that.

@yvan2563 4 ай бұрын

@@FinneasJedidiah It would be even better if they kept re-using the same colours for different companies, though. Intel is blue, Nvidia is green, AMD is red and Apple is... black, like their logo?

@Joppi1992 4 ай бұрын

A colouring scheme would be nice, but pausing the video to view charts in more detail is also possible. A colouring scheme would be nice even with the paused video, but the consequences aren't as bad as the OP makes it seem.

@TheChemizzle 4 ай бұрын

Adding color is just adding more to the chart to fix a problem they are creating instead of just fixing the actual problem directly. Although different colors wouldn't hurt. The problem is they sort the chart based on performance, which means you do not know what each bar represents at a glance because number 1 in one chart is different then number 1 in another chart. We can distinguish a big bar from a small bar at a glance, so ordering the results by something that is already easily distinguishable is pointless. Just keep each product (cpu in this case) in the same spot so when we see that bar 3 is biggest (or smallest) we already know what product that is without having to look every time because it is the same on every chart.

@belg4mit 4 ай бұрын

There are blinking red dots next to the metrics he is discussing.

@PunmasterSTP 4 ай бұрын

It's a good time to be alive! It's so neat to see CPU hardware changing so much, and I can't wait for what happens over the next several years.

@ratinthecat 4 ай бұрын

1:00 Dragonballs just chilling on the kitchen counter. No wonder Linus says monetize my death. He's just going to come back.

@Pavlogal 4 ай бұрын

No power draw / power efficiency comparisons? I think that's pretty important for laptop CPUs

@honkhonkler7732 4 ай бұрын

I suspect that was on purpose. In terms of heat, even the U series hits 57W TDP at full boost which is significantly higher than it's closest AMD and Apple competition. Given the performance, I think we can safely say it's much less power efficient.

@danthezulu7707 4 ай бұрын

That was honestly suprising, and does make this kind of a useless video. Everyone knows that the 12th-14th generation cpu's have had pretty bad efficency experiences especially on the laptop, that was literally the first thing I wanted to know when I saw that there was a new intel cpu on the laptop.

@Avruthlelbh 4 ай бұрын

They're comparing completely seperate laptops, not just the CPU. It'd be pretty impossible to get anything useful out of it, in terms of apples-to-apples

@RayanMADAO 4 ай бұрын

Apple would dominate those charts

@DigitalJedi 4 ай бұрын

From my testing against an i7 1360P and 13700H, you can expect MTL to match performance with a 38W 1360P at 20-25W, and match the 45-50W 13700H at 35-42W. As for battery life, the ASUS Zenbook 14 I am testing the 155H in routinely pulls out 10+ hour days at work and I've gotten a full 8-hour fligh's worth of movie watching and blog post writing done on it already.

@tuannguyenminh2870 4 ай бұрын

Did they really compare a high performance 65W max TDP CPU against an efficiency oriented CPU 30W max TDP (according to AMD website)? Also no efficiency mentioned in a laptop CPU review/"explained" video?

@adamfarmer7665 4 ай бұрын

its worse, PERF Mode actually uses as much watt as possible, so it's very much possible that its using more than 65W.

@MattSitton 4 ай бұрын

Yeah this is super sketch to me what the hell

@redgopnik2227 4 ай бұрын

yeah my takeaway was i want the amd, lmao

@potatorigs2155 4 ай бұрын

exactly the intel chip can even boost to 115w

@petrolhead9702 4 ай бұрын

I bought the 7840HS equipped lenovo ideapad pro 5 with 32gb lpddr5 6400, with 75whr battery and 14' 1800p ips screen I can get upto 8 hours of light to medium work and can game at 1200p or 1050p and if I need any more gaming power 7840hs also supports USB4 40GBPS so yeah I recommend 7000hs @@redgopnik2227

@igillenh2o 4 ай бұрын

Love the machines they picked for the benchmarks in this video, as they were all contenders for a near future laptop purchase. Especial kudos for finding ways to sneak apple into the benchmarks where it made sense.

@XouXin 4 ай бұрын

Were you using software x264 encoder on the CPU or hardware h264 encoder on the integrated GPU for the Handbrake test?

@joetheaugustine 4 ай бұрын

For not having an NPU to compare against, Apple has had a "16-core Neural Engine" in their M-series products since it was originally released in 2020.

@creativeanvil2783 4 ай бұрын

I was going to point out the same thing. the only thing that may prevent direct comparisons is if the software for testing isnt on both platforms. eitherway slight oversight by LTT on this.

@mattiacaldera 4 ай бұрын

Even the 7840u has its own NPU

@AetherProwl 4 ай бұрын

Not just the M3, AMD’s mobile parts have had NPU’s for over a year now and they just ignored it. Their second gen ones just came out that promise to be 60% faster than Intel’s

@taktoa1 4 ай бұрын

@@creativeanvil2783 ML accelerators tend to have different support for different precision levels (fp32, bf16, int8, etc.), and memory bandwidth vs compute can both be bottlenecks depending on workload, so it's actually very hard to compare them in general as opposed to on a specific benchmark. That said, they could have run or cited MLPerf.

@dhruvweaver 4 ай бұрын

@BIGbearrrrrfor training yes, but you can convert PyTorch and TensorFlow models to CoreML, which allows you to do inference on the neural engine on Apple devices. Including iPhones and iPads. I’m not an expert on the bottlenecks with the NE, but it’s my understanding that it’s significantly faster than the GPU with quite a few models

@yoyofargo 4 ай бұрын

idk why but the audio in this sounds like it's playing behind a blanket

@yuki_haiia 4 ай бұрын

yeah it does sound different, thought it was just me 😅

@RandomTheories 4 ай бұрын

...and i thought that i accideentaly overboosted my sub

@Tindog81476 4 ай бұрын

I was looking for this comment, yeah it seems off.

@ChikNoods 4 ай бұрын

mic under hoodie im guessing. its muffled asf

@donatedflea 4 ай бұрын

bullshit. Every speaker in my home (dozens) sound great at any level. Its YOU or your browser or apple, but its NOT the source audio.

@Zibbezabbe 4 ай бұрын

I really appreciate the focus red dot thing for the graphs, one of the better solutions I have seen for highlighting relevant information in graphs. Good job!

@Eversor86 4 ай бұрын

Personally I prefer far more the GN approach of the "shades" walking around graphs showing exactly whats being talked about at that moment. LTT graphs are kinda "one dimensional", and those random focus dots - can kinda "disappear" from my vision when I focus like 80% of my eyes on trying to read which model is which position.

@sjoerdstougie 4 ай бұрын

i loveee the red bubble indicating which statistic is important!! dont know when this was introduced but wow is it amazing!!!!

@DynMads 4 ай бұрын

What is up with the sound mixing in this one? The voice is jumping all over the place in terms of clarity.

@cbennett1 4 ай бұрын

I'm getting an unusual amount of low end audio rumble in this video, like lack of pop filter but more than that. I have a very large/sensitive sub, but this does not happen in other LTT videos.

@donatedflea 4 ай бұрын

... Do you have crossovers? Have you tuned those subs properly to the space? Do you have a mixer and eq available? If not do you know how to use EQ in windows? Sounds like user error mate my subs have no overbearing low end, it sounds more natural than normal. MORE natural. Cancel Reply Cancel Reply

@PhyrexJ 4 ай бұрын

@@donatedfleaUseless advice from someone pretending to understand audio. Classic. The audio in this video is off, it’s even noticeable one a phone speaker

@peniku8 4 ай бұрын

The low rumble has always been an issue and I kept bugging Sam about this, but apparently he wasn't able to get through to whoever mixes audio for LMG. I guess they just have a preset chain of plugins that was set up once many years ago and then never touched. I'm pretty sure they don't have an employee for this, so nobody feels like it's their job to take care of it and/or probably most lack a proper playback system and knowledge to fix it.

@donatedflea 4 ай бұрын

@peniku8 like the server maintainence then haha

@volvo09 4 ай бұрын

@@donatedflea a crossover isn't going to to anything for frequencies that are already there.

@tompov227 4 ай бұрын

It's nice to see LTT taking Apple seriously now that they deserve it. Obviously some of the older thinner Intel MacBooks really didn't have a place in a video like this and I don't blame them for not including them but it's nice to see now that Apple is competitive in this field, that they're not just being completely ignored.

@edwxx20001 4 ай бұрын

you are right, intel should not be compared to older intel chips in apple. the new stuff is way better.

@jamesalewis 4 ай бұрын

5:31 can someone explain what this graph means? How does one processor create a smaller file using the same process? Does the processor make optimizations to the file?

@almc8445 4 ай бұрын

It really depends on what instructions the CPU has available, how the programs’s developer chose to implement them, and many more things. Algorithms aren’t always implemented exactly the same.

@andrewt9204 4 ай бұрын

So glad ARC graphics has gotten usable now. I bought an A380 (intended for a HTPC & encoding) and A750 LE early on to play with. The A750 was pretty buggy/slow for most games near release and I switched back to my RX6800 (and shortly after a 7900XTX). I kept the A750 as sort of a collectors thing or assuming performance improved, could use it for a friend/family machine. But, when the 4080 Super was close to being launched I popped the A750 back in while trying to sell the 7900XTX and was pleasantly surprised that I could play most games at mid-low presets and still maintain a playable ~60 FPS @ 1440p, and even faster with XeSS. Idle & desktop power consumption also got better since launch too. Will be nice when their graphics division really gets dialed in. AAA games on a thin/light(ish) laptop playing 60 FPS+ at 1080+ and medium settings would be awesome. And hopefully wreck AMD/Nvidia's mid-low end pricing schemes, forcing their whole line to shift down to reality.

@jierenzheng7670 4 ай бұрын

Yea great to hear, probably swapping my GTX 1660S to A770 this year once I do a distro upgrade. Excited to see performance increases here.

@iikatinggangsengii2471 4 ай бұрын

it has stutter problem, very unplayable, only in my games though

@Glornak 4 ай бұрын

Not saying it's bad at gaming, at it's price point it's great, but Intel's A380 is more than anything an absolute godsend to streamers. It made having a dedicated encoding GPU viable again depending on what streaming app you're using. Game on your main GPU and encode on the A380 for a smaller performance loss. Also the damm thing runs on slot power so you won't need a PSU with an extra set of "GPU" power connectors to install it in an existing system.

@jierenzheng7670 4 ай бұрын

@@Glornak I wish I bought a later model, mine still comes with the power connector, very annoying.

@andrewt9204 4 ай бұрын

@@jierenzheng7670 Yeah, same. Would have made my NVR setup a lot easier.

@MichaelHickman3D 4 ай бұрын

Very impressive to see MacBooks have this trajectory in performance. Nice to see the M series MacBooks get their representation as a M1 MacBooks User. Still one of the fastest laptops I use today and it’s been 2 years.

@redgopnik2227 4 ай бұрын

You really shouldn't expect things to be much faster in just a couple of years... If you look past the marketing, each new generation of product just isn't that different than the last

@antonioytm 4 ай бұрын

It has really impressive price for poorly 8gb of ram

@Demopans5990 4 ай бұрын

@antonioytm It's Unified Memory /s

@FrankyDigital2000 4 ай бұрын

People are Unified that 8gb of RAM is dogshit @@Demopans5990

@xPandamon 4 ай бұрын

@@Demopans5990Even as a sarcastic comment it's unfunny cause it makes it even worse 😅

@cmm90871 4 ай бұрын

Well done with the visuals this format of high lighting the topic chip allowed for actual watching instead of pause to read data and boredom repeat the process

@Lorunification 4 ай бұрын

I am a little confused. What does file size have to do with the hardware thats running the encoding? File size should 100% be determined by encoding settings, instead of a CPU doing a better job writing the data. Afterall, the data needs to be the same, if using the same encoding settings, assuming there is no compression or some other optimization in place.

@christianbuda6077 4 ай бұрын

As a regular viewer I am fine with the "investment disclosure" thing, but a new viewer would not be able to understand at all what it means. Maybe write some details on screen, otherwise the disclosure is basically useless (the ones who already know, already know, and the ones who don't know, won't know). Also, sometimes it would be nice to have the laptops in the same spots in the various plots instead of always reordering them, it would make them much more readable during the video.

@ilovelol2642 4 ай бұрын

what does it mean? simply dont buy the stock because i find the product good?

@TuXicity 4 ай бұрын

@@ilovelol2642You can't buy the stock as it's not publicly traded. Because of this Linus isn't legally obligated to disclose it, but chooses to do so based upon the potential conflict of interest involved with reviewing, analysing and concluding on other laptops as well as Framework models. It's not to indicate whether the product is good or bad, Framework has it's own merits and drawbacks compared to competitors, but it's more to make it clear that he has a vested interest financially speaking. A laptop is a personal purchase which should involve spending time finding the right option for you, rather than basing it off of investments made by people in the industry.

@MicahS70T5M 4 ай бұрын

If by "it" you mean the disclosure, it just means Linus is personally an investor in Framework. He seems to be remaining unbiased but even still, regarding that particular model of laptop, verify from another source (and I think he would say the same thing.)@@ilovelol2642

@pmc_ 4 ай бұрын

@@ilovelol2642 I think OP's talking about the Framework investment disclosure. Linus owns a stake in Framework, and LTT videos are supposed to disclose that when Framework laptops are involved. This video just said (and flashed on the screen) "INVESTMENT DISCLOSURE" with no details, so people that don't already know of Linus's relationship with Framework get exactly zero context.

@greebj 4 ай бұрын

There isn't a strict legal requirement to disclose such a conflict of interest in this kind of video (i.e. not doing so isn't going to get anybody in legal trouble with securities regulators or yt, though it would probably backfire bigly credibility-wise), but if there was, just flashing the word "disclosure" with no details or link to them, is insufficient The whole idea of liking a product meaning the company is 'a good investment' is banal dumbed down logic missing a mention of a lot of intermediary steps, it is contradictory to the supposed point of this video which is to educate

@staiain 4 ай бұрын

is it just me or is the microphone sounding really off in this video, tonal balance seems so unnatural

@thebreatho 4 ай бұрын

yup, sounds boomy, way too bassy

@donatedflea 4 ай бұрын

Disagree and think you all have incredibly shitty speakers or pods and zero knowhow how to tweak audio. It sounds perfectly audible and all frequencies covered on every system and speaker in my house. Im an audio engineer. Lol.

@Laundry_Hamper 4 ай бұрын

It's an allegory for the balance of the data presentation

@zcryptxzz 4 ай бұрын

@@donatedflea If you seriously can't hear the awful quality of this video, especially compared to the last one they put out, you should re-think your career choice. Or maybe get a better set of speakers?

@SharkWithADrill 4 ай бұрын

@@donatedflea It's definitely bass boosted and sounds uncanny

@AndreiKucharavy 4 ай бұрын

A quick note - single precision FLOPs/Watt is the current battle in the ML space. The price of SoA models training is now dominated by the electricity draw, just as their cost in inference, so any saves there, even at a price of lower performance is what matters. So if you want to benchmark NPUs, showing power draw and inference speed on a set of standard models is what will be most interesting to people who need them or want to integrate into their software.

@tristanpizza8646 4 ай бұрын

im not sure what it is that is different but the recent videos have felt to me higher in quality (im sure has something to do with longer production times) i was wondering tho if anyone else has noticed this. cause to me its cool to see a channel as big as ltt still changing up there editing style to see what works best and to bring up the quality!

@TheMicro4 4 ай бұрын

Wow… Whoever balanced Linus’s mic audio failed. That mic is so bass heavy that it sounds like he is eating that microphone

@soarcheetah 4 ай бұрын

There's something very wrong with the audio for sure. I had this video in the background and it made me check if my cables weren't plugged in all the way.

@valorien1 4 ай бұрын

Why does the audio sound so bad?

@donatedflea 4 ай бұрын

because you have no idea how to tweak audio to your system and space and you expect everything on a silver platter like youtubers to do your bidding.

@-Burb 4 ай бұрын

@@donatedfleaThe video audio quality is very bad compared to their other videos, your headphones might just not be good enough to hear a difference. Bad source audio quality can’t magically be fixed by “tweaking”.

@534N69 4 ай бұрын

Love the inclusion of the Mac My only constructive criticism is to throw in battery life and unplugged power

@Herr_U 4 ай бұрын

Was the video encoding cpu-bound or igpu-bound ? (since I don't use handbrake I don't know what telltales tells us which path it takes (and hardware accelearation support is most likely revision-specific on when it was implemented anyways))

@marounel-chayeb38 4 ай бұрын

cool video, for me missing is the power draw for the tasks for each chips, like you said naming schemes are confusing and for me comparing intel H series with an U series is from a price point a good comparison but if one is drawing 28W and the other 15W then it is a little off especially as it is not a laptop review but a chip review. as a viewer I don't know how much the M3 or the 1370P draws and it would have been nice to know, I didn't say the chips were the wrong chips, but for me this context was missing completely and for me the video is not satisfying like this. but maybe it is just me

@theriddler24 4 ай бұрын

Agreed the h / u compassion made and look worse than they are

@DigitalJedi 4 ай бұрын

From another comment of mine: You can expect a 25W 155H to match up with the 1360P at 38W, and a 155H at 35-42W to match up with a 45W+ 13700H. Power draw for this chip is a 28W TDP and 64W max boost power, with very short spikes above that allowed as is the case with most laptop CPUs.

@potatorigs2155 4 ай бұрын

7840U U=low power chip the intel chip can turbo to 115w lol

@kericsX 4 ай бұрын

i don`t unterstand this Test.

@__aceofspades 4 ай бұрын

If you've actually look at other reviews they are in the same power class.

@potatorigs2155 4 ай бұрын

no they are not intel can say otherwise this thing still can turbo with a 115w tdp @@__aceofspades Processor Base Power 28 W Maximum Turbo Power 115 W Minimum Assured Power20 W Maximum Assured Power65 W

@moist_ointment 4 ай бұрын

There's not a single laptop in which the 155H boosts past 65W, and it only boosts to 65W for less than 1 minute, when perf. mode is enabled.

@emersonmatheus8611 7 күн бұрын

Amdf4gs cant accept reality, intel beat even their integrated graphics haha. Both chips take the same watts, dont need to lie

@itsmilan4069 4 ай бұрын

question was the test between 13th gen, core ultra 7 and ryzen 7000 was done on same TDP? cause I've seen the Meteorlake out performing the 8000 series on other reviews at same games

@jmbunda826 4 ай бұрын

what is the Standard and Performance mode tho? is it just a flat overclock or does it contain something else?

@kadancomputers 4 ай бұрын

Why are you comparing a 45w CPU to lower power CPUs?

@backupplan6058 4 ай бұрын

You also mean one that can also turbo to 115w if allowed. Power draw information really should have been included and not just a chart showing how long playback of a video would last on battery while all other tests run plugged in, so much for the superior Labs results.

@lefthornet 4 ай бұрын

The Intel one can get 117W vs 58W max on AMD and 48W on Apple, not fair comparison.

@kericsX 4 ай бұрын

@@lefthornetthe Test should be Core Ultra 155H vs AMD Ryzen 8840HS

@KaedeAnimation 4 ай бұрын

@@lefthornetthis show how power hog Intel cpu is. I’m not buy Intel laptop again and I don’t like Apple MacBook either

@merdem7805 4 ай бұрын

imagine comparing mobile cpus without any power efficiency curve comparison. Classic LTT.

@r45661 4 ай бұрын

Atleast they could mention the max drawn power or whether the benchmarks were made on battery or not.

@danielgysi5729 4 ай бұрын

imo the average person doesn't need to care about power efficiency under load. they care about battery life for light load or pure performance under heavy load because they're smart enough to plug in for that

@adamfarmer7665 4 ай бұрын

yeah, the problem is that they are showing PERF mode (uses as much watt as possible) beats amd normal mode? even they show the chart for standart mode, which looks at least %30 worse compared to last gen amd apu. This video doesn't really show anything, since you can't keep up that much wattage on battery, and it would get hot pretty quick.@@danielgysi5729

@lefthornet 4 ай бұрын

@@r45661that's true But the battery life of the Intel one will be worse than AMD or Apple, but default that Intel can get 65W, while the AMD 28W and the Apple one 30W. If you push all is were the issue is more obvious, the AMD has a maximum of 58W the Apple one 48W and the Intel one 117W.

@r45661 4 ай бұрын

@@lefthornet Exactly. Power targets from Intel are really strange for mobile devices. A few months ago the Moores Law is Dead channel already pointed this out, especially for this generation.

@FlintTD 4 ай бұрын

I watched this whole video and somehow missed the difference between Core Ultra and Core products! Is the Core Ultra brand exclusively composed of "Meteor Lake" architecture CPUs (at present)? Is the primary differentiator for Core Ultra the NPU + Tile architecture?

@HermioneTheCat 4 ай бұрын

did linus just say "closlier" at 2:13? LMAO

@press_button_for_assistance 4 ай бұрын

Yes, it’s an ongoing meme.

@user-rb4qq5sy9o 4 ай бұрын

I believe I never heard him say it properly)

@MRBenchwork 4 ай бұрын

Hey just a note about the graphs, In this video you made a point of putting the best on top sometimes but in others it was alphabetical or something. Can you just pick an order and stick with it? It's difficult to follow the information on a particular computer when it keeps moving around the bar graphs.

@MartijnTV 4 ай бұрын

It was highest 1% lows when they included it, not alphabetical

@wotnetworkgamer2859 4 ай бұрын

Does not the ryzen 7 7840U have its own NPU? Why not compare that? 11:47

@MrSamPhoenix 4 ай бұрын

Sounds like an Apple naming scheme

@arc.baramov-xz7yk 3 ай бұрын

Hi, glad to see you back, in your mood :)

@adammccormack33 4 ай бұрын

"If we look closelyer "

@blkspade23 4 ай бұрын

Apple isn't reducing specs to cut costs, its to build in obsolescence. The elements that make their devices sub-par are designed to make the consumer have to replace the device sooner. You pair an increased need for paging with soldered NAND and RAM, and you get a device that will outright fail sooner. So when they upcharge for either of those you're paying for longevity, or more accurately space between times you have reason to give them more of your money.

@ZeerakImran 4 ай бұрын

is that why apple devices last the longest and why apple are shown to be the most reliable major hardware manufacturer (third party calculated too)? Microsoft comes out last by the way. I have had 3 surface laptops and 2 dells. Yeah. never again.

@Glornak 4 ай бұрын

@@ZeerakImran I can only hope you're joking. Yea a $500 windows based laptop is a piece of shit that isn't gonna last a year let alone a decade, but at Apple's price points a comparable windows laptop tend to hold up equally when it comes to hardware. Software is where Apple fails miserably as they'll cut you off from OS updates before the end of the decade while Microsoft basically places an ankle high wall between you and the next version of windows no matter how old your CPU is.

@blkspade23 4 ай бұрын

@@ZeerakImranPerhaps tell that to someone that doesn't fix them for a living, and sees all common and ridiculous ways they actually happen to fail. It's a bigger and more costly headache to get them fixed, or to recover data. Made even worse by the Apple store's universal default of pricing (or denying) the repair at a point designed to push you toward a new device. Apple's practices is the biggest reason why right to repair had to be legislated for such devices. The only things in Apple's laptop designs that are genuinely superior is how they reduce mechanical failures. Like the hinge mounting, and the magsafe connector. Memory, storage, and the much of the electronics are made by the same companies PC OEMs use, and have similar rates of failure. Now Apple silicon does rely on memory being physically close to the SOC, which legitimizes it's soldering, but they started that on their Intel based systems after 2014. There is zero excuse for then proprietary and now soldered storage.

@robertbayer9932 4 ай бұрын

The industry standard for benchmarking machine learning systems is the MLPerf / MLCommons benchmark. They provide benchmarks for training and inference on different scales of systems.

@radekmojzis9829 4 ай бұрын

Looks like they glued them together pretty well.

@NeverlandSystemZor 4 ай бұрын

I love the idea of Intel Arc making waves. We NEED real competition

@predaalex3210 4 ай бұрын

Making waves as in struggling not to drown. So yeah an apt metaphor.

@ATP-Flo 4 ай бұрын

I got the Asus ZenBook 14 OLED with the Ultra 9 185H (45W TDP) this week and it is amazing. It can power down to 3W on the CPU in HWINFO. Absolutely amazing battery life. Performance is great in Windows 11. Gaming absolutely possible. And the 2880x1800px OLED touchscreen is a blast. Super happy with it.

@chromaticvisuelle 4 ай бұрын

Wow nice, price? How much battery life with moderate use?

@nipunverma854 4 ай бұрын

i got the ultra 7 155h and its great , unfortunately ultra 9 wasn't available where I live

@bulbagamer639 4 ай бұрын

Is the core (Ultra) series the laptop version of 14tg gen and beyond?

@NormanF62 3 ай бұрын

Intel is building the next generation of chips with AI baked in, to run on the forthcoming Windows 12.

@magfal 4 ай бұрын

You have an M3, it has an NPU. You can run linux on any recent-ish high end Android smartphone and you've got access to a capable NPU there too. I've used my One Plus 7 Pro as a network attached 7 TOPS NPU machine to do low power batch image processing tasks. A USB Coral TPU is also an option.

@aidenworth8186 4 ай бұрын

Small rant here but I feel like part of the reason why that older video did so good was because it was easily searchable. I’m not a fan of how LTT has been labeling their videos in the last few years since it’s hard to tell what the video actually is. This one’s better but if your earlier video was titled “Luke’s new 2024 gaming PC” It would have 100% gotten a click from me but I totally skipped over it. Also I’m slightly scared I’m already shadowbanned for these mild takes so if someone could give a thumbs up or comment here that would be awesome.

@almc8445 4 ай бұрын

Not shadowed 🤷‍♂️ And I agree, the naming of their videos has been a bit of a miss recently, I’ve gone to look for specific things a few times and can never find them easily anymore.

@joelsamjohn 4 ай бұрын

Got a suggestion for making the graphs easier to absorb when using multiple applications to test performance. Example 3:32 - 3:34 It would be great if y'all could maintain the same order of the devices from top to bottom across the graphs. It is a little unintuitive to have to constantly re-read the order of devices on the y-section of the graph. :D

@krystofkuh 4 ай бұрын

Hi, could you diferentiate the processor in graphs with color? Its really hard to quckly find what is where. Love your videos.

@orcpat0 4 ай бұрын

Honestly that sku segment needed to be 4x longer to actually explain wtf we're looking at.

@Kanakarhu 4 ай бұрын

Funny how manufacturers have moved to the same "tile" architecture style than IBM Z & Power systems have been for past 30+ years...

@krazownik3139 4 ай бұрын

Wait until they would need to ditch clocks altogether and went to asynchronous systems to gain any significant performance uplift. That would mean return to architecture that remember Soviet union in it's hay days.

@SafeSpaceGaming1 4 ай бұрын

the audio quality of linus voice sounded weird on this video, Just a heads up! love the channel!

@Wease245 4 ай бұрын

Be interesting to see an encoding ‘size standardised’ comparison. Not sure if it saves time to encode to a larger file size? Could say encode with AMD to make the files the same size as the M3, and then compare the times.

@MatthewCornish 4 ай бұрын

I like the red pulsing marker on the charts to help follow with what you're saying :)

@Yuriel1981 4 ай бұрын

Lol How nice of Intel to make their naming schema infinitely more complicated in order to screw the customer base.

@llomellamomario 4 ай бұрын

0:30 I assume that the U chips are the low power mobile CPU's, and that part of the denomination has not changed. Can we stop and admire for a moment that Intel managed to go back to "dualcore" again on mobile chips? Yes, I know I am counting only performance cores, but those are the ones that matters when the system is getting hammered down. But I'd like to argue that the whole point of quadcore on laptops was not only for background tasks, but also because that power is used when you hammer down your computer, and is not uncommont to happen, even if by virtue of a poorly written ap, or a decent amount of tabs in the background.

@Squidkingdom 4 ай бұрын

Don’t think I didn’t catch that title change

@EserDeniz 4 ай бұрын

Great video but you missed an opportunity to color chart bars to red blue darker blue and black. It would have been easier to follow 😊

@TheGrassyDirtBlock 4 ай бұрын

Mic sound different to anyone else?

@maxmyzer9172 4 ай бұрын

9:33 - this tile stuff is, to me, THE MOST cool part of this, as a student in computer engineering. This must make not just their yields but their DESIGN so much easier! Imagine - even if they still do all the validation, they can patch hardware-level vulnerabilities on newer SKUs almost immediately

@rem_0 4 ай бұрын

Haha yes. Even tho new hardware patches is a thing, but implementing them with this approach will be much easier and less pricey. Also im so excited about this new even more low power and more efficient cores IN THE IO/SOC die. Not the point where they are, the point is, they are separate from other "main" cores

@AetherProwl 4 ай бұрын

It’s not as flexible as AMD’s approach. Intel’s requires an interposed die that each tile has to be designed to. They can’t make one CPU tile and repackage it for higher end parts like AMD can, they have to redesign the whole thing. It’s a shame the way Intel implemented tiles as the only real benefit their approach gains them is fab diversity.

@freakyfreak7777 4 ай бұрын

11:09 Giving me flashbacks to the Phonebloks thing from ages ago. Such a cool idea!

@WilliamHaisch 4 ай бұрын

“Are you out of your Vulcan mind!” 😂

@tteqhu 4 ай бұрын

5:24 don't make assumptions that CQ is absolute - many things impact it - even number of threads, since x264 poorly multithreads, so most of the performance comparisons on it are pointless tbh. Use parallel encoder (like AV1AN), and then you can measure quality difference (imo PSNR is alright, but use ssimulacra2 and vmaf if you want to satisfy all people with perceptual metrics). I know the usecase sounds quite specific then, but you would want to quantify performance properly, just like games being run 1080p on top shelf processors.

@LiveType 4 ай бұрын

Yep, netflix's vmaf is an industry standard at this point. How that wasn't used for quality comparison is beyond me.

@Yay295 4 ай бұрын

Does it sound like the audio is clipping to anyone else?

@rachelnaswita 4 ай бұрын

yeah it sounds weird to me, like linus sounds muffled too much? idk what's wrong

@jernaugurgeh451 4 ай бұрын

Yep. It’s borked, from too much noise cancelling I reckon. I think LTT are doing an Apple… deliberately reducing the quality and performance just before the release of a ‘new' model with 'better quality and performance', in LTT's case the model being Shaved Linus.

@donatedflea 4 ай бұрын

No i can actually hear the background noise in the signal. Theres zero clipping on ALL of my speakers and devices at HIGH volume. You should never push a preamp at 100% btw thats the power amps job. If that confuses you, your watching the wrong channel. Its user error is what im saying.

@donatedflea 4 ай бұрын

you are used to shity speakers or airpods giving you nothing but stripped out high frequencies@@rachelnaswita . This sounds Great to my ears on every speaker in my house.

@donatedflea 4 ай бұрын

Nothing is wrong with the source audio. Everything wrong with the end user devices or use of devices @@rachelnaswita

@HedgehogY2K 4 ай бұрын

The NPU is basically the new Purevideo, Clear Video, and UVD. A new hardware accelerated feature to lighten the load of a particular process by paralleling the operation into it's own segment of the CPU. It's happening again, cramming more features into the CPU and improving it along with literally everything else at the same time while More's law is not as effective as it once use to be. If both AMD and Intel go into this, who will make CPUs without NPUs? Maybe they can offer separate line ups without NPUs to get even more out of regular CPUs, cause that's what I want.

@dure9336 4 ай бұрын

Did the microphone you’re using change?

@q.edwards4891 4 ай бұрын

Anyone else's sound seem slightly muffled/distorted?

@shapelessed 4 ай бұрын

Oh great... USB 3.2 Gen 2 by 2 equivalent of CPUs... Amazing.

@SayuIchi 4 ай бұрын

I don't mind this naming scheme too much, if its consistent with the SKUs. Like higher number = better or ideally higher same name being same different to others. Having the suffix a bit earlier might have helped, but seeing this video I now have at least some clue about it. What I'm wondering about is e.g. how the Core 7 (non Ultra) stacks up against Core 5 Ultra variants. My mom needs a new laptop. She wants a little faster one (like maybe even i7), since she keeps them for 7+ years. But now... do i recommend a low tier ultra or a mid tier normal? Haven't heard a good reason for this confusing duality yet.

@woodycantsee 4 ай бұрын

The casual Ludwig bidet drop is crazy 😂😂😂

@Wolfschee 4 ай бұрын

Sorry, but I feel like I have not learned anything, maybe more about Apple than anything actual useful for day to day about the new Intel CPUs. Also you refered only to the 155h and did not takl about the 135h much or the messed up U-line-up where all CPUs seem the same. And even more, you did not even mention efficiency outside of the NPU. This is not an explanation, just an emtpy overview with some benchmarks. If you put benchmarks in it, do it right or leave them be for the final review. This does not feel like the renewed and better LTT.... I hope the acutal review if it comes to that is more satisfying.

@miles13092 4 ай бұрын

14:01 The difference between the ultra 5's two different SKUs is more than just a 100Mhz. The Ultra 5 135H has the Intel vPro Enterprise designation while the Ultra 5 125H has the Intel vPro essentials designation. This means little to the average consumer, but likely means the SKU with the slight bump in clock speed is likely only going to be available in workstation type builds that need the additional features. After looking further into it, all tiers of product that have this segmentation appear to have a similar structure. The Ultra 7 155H is designated with the vPro Essentials, and the Ultra 7 165H is vPro Enterprise.

@davidrajchman7162 4 ай бұрын

Wow, another thing that the writers missed in this video. I thought it was just the NPU stuff. Even 2020 M1 chips have it....

@christenorio81 4 ай бұрын

What of the hard mode of videogames will be using the npu

@Daniel_VolumeDown 4 ай бұрын

11:55 Well I am not sure if it tells me much cuz if performance on GPU is better then it is expected that it takes more power. Was this test done on the same "load"? (other way would be to sum up power draw over the time it would take each chip to compete certain task).

@coffeemixer4188 4 ай бұрын

Great video as always, thank you Linus ❤

@NicoIsntHere 4 ай бұрын

I cannot wait until more games are optimized for M series macs, still using an M1 MBP but having things like Ryujinx to play Mario Kart 8 or Mario Odyssey at 1080p@60hz or using GPTK/CrossOver to play DX11/12 games is pretty cool. A lot of games a playable through translation layers, now finally every player in the game will finally have competent and low power integrated graphics which is just a win for all consumers. Hopefully gone are the days of mega fat laptops just to have reasonable fps, I think we are very close!

@peppi69 4 ай бұрын

The splitting up of the functions to multiple different technologies (cores) inside of the CPU sounds really good, but it is a scheduling nightmare.

@karthikeanpathmanathan4191 3 ай бұрын

hey linus, i heard that asus zenbook 14 oled (oled) has some thermal issue since its on fan doing all the thermal lifting, so using a better laptop with adequate cooling system, such as omen transcen 14 is preferable, since it uses hyperbaric cooling