Add international measurements (kg alongside the pounds) for future videos, please

Intel: *renames 13000 series as '14th gen'* AMD: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!

Thank you for highlighting the platform bias problem in seemingly identical laptops. We may be missing out on extra performance, stability and/or battery life because OEMs don't put enough love into one platform.

Hey guys. Small correction. At 5:00 the arrow is mistakenly pointing towards the USB 3.2 Gen 2 port and NOT the USB 4 port. The USB 4 port is on the RIGHT in that image.

Just wait until the Snapdragon X Elite laptops come out. It will make things even more of a mess!

Honestly the biggest issue is the lack of AMD laptops anywhere. I tried to buy the Zenbook in this video, its not available anywhere.

Finally some good charts and comparisons when conparing laptops. I like how you test the battery life. Keep up the good work and keep innovating

I had obviously seen that Meteor lake had IMPROVED battery life over older Intel CPU'S, but not better than Ryzen?! WILD. 😅👌

He's lowkey the king of comparison videos

Wow, intel has improved a lot with meteor lake

Great video, great listen. Thank you Ser

I didn't skip the ad lol, gj that was well made :)

Beautiful video. Thank you very much. Watched with pleasure.

Recommendations were EXACTLY ON POINT , Well done 👍

You have my sympathy in testing laptops. No wonder one brand have better battery life if it also throttles.

Excellent deep dive into the importance of hardware and platform context around laptop reviews. Subscribed!

What a great video guys. I hope everyone appreciate the time and effort that goes into one like this.

I was missing this kinf of videos. Great!

How many years has it been since the last time I saw a real serious comparison between CPUs of the same tier and generation ? It's more informative and much more objective than the hundred of videos comparing Ryzen 7 and i9.

The best comparison video ever. Thanks sir🎉🎉

I just bought the Intel Zenbook for $799 from Best Buy. So you CAN pick this laptop up for much less than even the recommended Ryzen 7000 series laptops. Expect sales around Father's Day/Graduation day again.

the one thing I dont understand is that all these AMD models here in western EU max out at 16GB RAM. The intel ones go up to 32GB. Both zenbooks and yogas. They seem to artificially handicap AMD models for prosumers to sell them Intel laptops. I really wanted the AMD Yoga with 32GB. Strange no youtuber seems to talk about this, Im pretty sure the RAM is worlwide.

Very informative and interesting comparison, thanks 👍

Good review. Glad to see good competition from intel on the battery life front finally

Thank you so much! These are exactly the laptops I wanted to buy, so this comparison came at the perfect time. Hope to see you do the same next year ;)

Very clarifying. Thank you for the video.

Hey there is a mistake in 1:34, the logos are not matching the names correctly, the 7i has the AMD logo when it should be the intel one.

Awesome analysis on the topic. Thank you.

The arrow markers at 5:10 for the AMD Zenbook are pointing to the wrong ports when describing which port offers which spec. The USB icons for 40 gig and power are aligned to the left of the port they are describing. You can literally see physical differences in the cheaper 3.2 port and the 4.0 port from how they are integrated into the chassis

thanks for this wonderful information... thumbs up to your channel

The lengths you guys went to make the test as apple to apple as possible is truly amazing. This is true testing. Respect!! Keep up the good work

Well those horrible battery life on AMD is due to buggy power management drivers. They simply push lot of power on light and medium load pushing the thermals to far 95C and sustained workloads takes a significant frequency drop. Usually uninstalling it restores the correct power+frequency scaling for better battery life.

Could you include more comprehensive benchmarks like geekbench or spec? These should deliver a more complete picture for use cases not covered and are better for a general benchmark than cinebench

Great video, thanks! 👍 So would you recommend a yoga 7i oled i7-1360P or a Yoga 7 oled Ryzen 7-8840HS, currently at the same price? Or maybe a similarly priced Vivobook S oled Ryzen 7-7730U instead??

do you guys hate it when manufacturers max out only one port like 5:33 ? if it's a usb-a (on a desktop, for example), i want it to be 3.2 x4, not 3.2 x1 and 3.1 x3. if it's a usb-c, it has to be 10gbps x2 or 40gbps x2, not 40gbps x1 and 10gbps x1. same with m2 slots, lan ports (on a motherboard). am i the only one like this? i just don't want to think which one to use. lol. that's not crazy right?

Awesome job reviewing these!

Enjoyed this, a good comparison. Interesting to see the potential differences. It's sad, that depending on your laptop you're still never going to truly know if you bought the right one 😅. Great advice at the end too!

Appreciate the time it took to benchmark and edit this video ❤

Thanks for this detailed explanation, extremely helpful. I'mma pass on this gen and try to wait for next year.

On the Yoga Pro's the memory on the Intel is actually technically ''faster'', Although the AMD set is tighter, 6400MT/s cl50 = 15.6 nano seconds, and the 7467MT/s cl64 = 17.1 nano seconds. To give you a reference my DDR4 4600MT/s CL18 = 7.8 Nano seconds. I know that DDR5 is double the bandwidth, but my DDR4 would do 2 transfers in less time than the 7467MT/s DDR5 would take to do 1, does that make my DDR4 ''faster'' than this DDR5? Also I know they seem to get away with slower timings on laptop ram, because for my sons laptop, it was a hunt to find 32gb kit of DDR4 3200MT/s CL16, most are CL22, CL16 = 10 nano seconds CL22 = 13.75 Nano seconds. I found 2 kits, tightest was, 1 kit from Mushkin, Redline (CL16,18-18-38) and the other was, 1 kit from T.Force, Zeus (CL16,20-20-40). My son got the Mushkin, and my mothers laptop got the T.Force, their identical, but I know the Mushkin are technically better lol. Always look past just the MT/s speed, and use a latency calculator.

Do you think the core ultra chips will get better through bios and firmware updates?

Great video! I have an itch to go into one of those current laptops on a convertible platform because they already are ultra versatile.. currently on an envy x360 OLED with an i5 1135 g7 and while it works fine, it lacks some things to be a truly versatile machine (just 8GB of ram and the graphics are not that great) I'm going to wait for amd strix point mobile, it will get a signigicant architecture in all 3 compute core units (CPU NPU and GPU) as well as the introduction of efficiency cores... seems to be worth the wait big time, so i think you are absolutely spot on with your recommendation.

Amazing review, analysis and recommendations!

Really good review and recommendation

Great and important video. Could you please do a video on Intel Arc Graphics vs GeForce RTX... essentially something like the samsung galaxy book 4 intel arc graphics vs asus zenbook 14 rtx 3070.

Man thanks for this! I really appreciate this review!

Great to see mike reviewing laptops too! And good for intel to finally catch up, even if it takes 2 years 😂 I guess already by the end of the year we'll get zen 5 so the wait for new stuff shouldn't take that long ❤

Excelente comparación ! Gracias.

Thank you for the amazing review of the current mess of a laptop market! Just wanted to point out that the 7000 Ryzen series laptops that were recommended, they sneakily use zen 3 architecture from 6000 series. I don't think buying them even on such discount is a good idea. Recently got a lenovo ideapad slim 3i for my friend mostly for school. I was torn between ryzen 5 7530U or intel core 5 150U. Ultimately went with the latter after doing a ton of research and it has been great so far!

Is there more to processors more than their raw performance that could be deciding factor? All the other specs and encoder performance etc?

8840hs goes with ultra books for lower price, but recent sales make laptops with ultra core 5 a very tempting deal. But it is by no means a 8840hs

Great job! Thank you!

Going off your advice in the video, I found this laptop on sale at a big box retailer for $999. Thoughts?: Lenovo Slim 7 Pro X 14.5" Touchscreen Laptop - AMD Ryzen 9 6900HS - GeForce RTX 3050 (4GB VRAM) - 120Hz 3072 x 1920 Display - 32GB RAM - 1TB SSD - Model: 82V20003US I need to run poorly optimized, processor and memory intensive apps that deal with large datasets up to 10GB each. I value a small durable chassis, good battery life (when I’m not taxing the CPU/GPU with heavy tasks), and a high resolution screen to view large graphs and charts with minimal scrolling.

Very thorough testing, well explained and represented with graphs. Not only that but actual useful advice in the end to the consumer. This is top notch content!

Great stuff really! I didn't want to buy a new laptop even though I am in great need, so I had my company doing it for me. I almost went for the Ryzen here but ended up with Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 Ultra i7 155H. So far I am still waiting for it, and the day I never thought would come is getting closer where I am replacing my Zenbook 13 with Intel i7 8565u.

Sir would you recommend HP Aero Laptops? Are they good?

Good advice about 7000 series, but I still got chinese model Thinkbook 16" since it has Oculink port on Intel models.

the asus with intel cpu has probably an overheating vrm. that doesn't necessarily show in the cpu temperature chart, but leads to throtteling anyway.

Great video thanks

Exactly what i was looking for thanks

Great video!

10:34, How did lenovo AMD model gone lower even if its jigher wattage.

Haven't been following the laptop CPU market very closley so this video came in dummy clutch.

This kind of illustrates my issue with laptop and specifically laptop shopping. Almost everything is "buy it as is, or don't buy at all. You should be happy." Aesthetics and IO definitely come into play for so many shoppers, and most of the time you find something so close to what you want; if only you could just go to a configurator and just change one thing. But most of it only has a "buy now" button with no "customize" option(s). Say you find a line of laptops that looks pretty good, but it doesn't have the I/O you want because you really need plenty of USB-A and an SD card, and you find something powerful enough, but no SD card reader. But you find a line that does have SD card readers, but it cuts USB-A to only one in favor of adding I/O you've never heard of, oh and it looks ugly as hell and isn't nearly as powerful as the other line. And even if you only visit one seller's sight and only look at that one sight, it's like every laptop has a different chassis. Oh, look, two models whose only difference is one has 8GB of RAM and the other has 16GB of RAM... and for some reason their chassis is completely fucking different between the two, and there is no option to take the 8GB model and customize it to increase the RAM. Whoever is making the decisions on how to add more SKUs to the website is a money wasting moron. Apple's stuff might not be worth the price for most people, but at least if you look at macbooks, the chassis and I/O doesn't completely fucking change just because a lower RAM model doesn't have the option to double the RAM to match a high model with different I/O. (I have no idea if this is making sense through text.) It's why I looked into framework. Especially because I can actually customize the I/O. Kind of sucks they don't have Intel options for anyone who prefers Intel, but they are still fairly new and doing something beyond what anyone else even dreams of doing, and I applaud them for having as many options as they have already. But seriously, imagine looking at these laptops in the video and thinking "yeah, I'll totally pay for which ever one had better power even if the battery life is a bit worse." But then looking at SKUs and realizing you like the I/O of the weaker one better, but there's no way to customize it to get the best of both worlds. Laptops really freaking suck in that way. The price of portability.

I am glad you have a benchmark on dota 2. thanks

Cool Wallpaper. Where can I find it?

This is Important: Did you use the updated BIOS for Intel Zenbook?

I am using a Lenovo IdeaPad 5 Pro with Ryzen 5 5600H since nearly 2 years on a daily basis for work - not one single crash. The battery duration is no thing, since it won't be more than a couple of hours on battery anyways. Imho of most importance is the display frequency which is 120Hz and makes the difference in the daily work for your eyes more than any other feature.

I just watch Just Josh video review the Asus zenbook 14. He very transparent about power usage and power efficiency of the 2 cpu in every test.

Best comparison of Intel and AMD on laptops I have ever seen, excellent work!

Regarding the gradual clockspeed decrease on the zenbook with intel, asus hasn t done anything to address it in the past FIVE years. I have a 2019 zenbook ux434 with an i7 10510u, and the same behaviour happens. It starts at 30w turbo, which naturally decreases when it switches to PL1 (15w), then it slowly goes down to around 8w, sometimes even 7 when rerunning cinebench, and temperatures are around 65C. The fix is either using throttlestop or using linux which is way more consistent.

The idea of this notebook comparision in the same chassis is awesome. I don’t fully agree with some of your conclusions but you are mostly right

great in depth comparison

Now, let's talk about lagging and stuttering issues that occurred with pc build intel cpus, does this also happen to intel mobile processor or only desktop processor?

The ASUS' AMD bias isn't surprising, knowing they're the only ones so far selling full AMD laptops worldwide and using the "AMD Advantage" label. Their pricing is really crap though, it's unaffordable in most of Europe for the performance you get, to the point even going for RTX 3060 laptops is viable against a 7600S laptop because you'd be paying twice more for the 7600S and not getting any "advantage" (except battery on idle).

now we need proper gaming performance comparison between msi claw and rog ally. Especially when alot of msi claw videos are when it's using old bios and igpu drivers

Interesting comparison. I note this was for the latest Intel and AMD H series processors. Is the same true for the latest Intel and AMD U series processors? A saw video comparing Minisforum V3 with AMD 7 8840U Vs Microsoft Surface Pro 10 with Intel Core Ultra 7 165U. AMD outperformed Intel especially with respect to graphics (+40%), and Intel needed more watts (44W) when matching AMD performance (31W).

how do you set laptops to 150 nits for your testing? do you use a light meter ?

At 11:44 not sure how amd zenbook at 41w gets 132.6 fps while the amd yoga at 63w only gets 118 fps ?!

But what about for Davinci Resolve? AMD isn't a great choice, so would you still recommend the '23 laptop with AMD or a current-gen Intel?

I feel for the Intel chips in the Zen books, we should stage a sitting, to get them fed properly. This is CPU abuse, and should not be tolerated!

I got a R7 7840u Yoga Slim 6 for €650 (that's after the insane 25% VAT my country has too). It works excellent as a school laptop and can do light to even medium gaming on the side.

Can u use distinct colour or pattern or some sign when lower is better in charts

You are right about problems with the ARC drivers. Forza Horizon 4 crashes on every Intel Core Ultra + ARC laptop I've tried (Zenbooks & Vivobooks). No problems with the AMD-powered Asus Zenbook 14 OLED.

I think for the stress tests in battery life, you should do a fixed load. Eg. Running the Witcher 3 with an FPS limit (30fps), or equivalent benchmark.

is 7735hs good to buy rn ? i mean it was the only option cheap enough paired with 4050 so i bought it

I want to see a similar comaparision video once the Snapdragon Windows laptop are in the market. Thanks

I've already decided that if I'm getting a new laptop anytime soon I'm either going all the way to a 4090 equipped powerhouse or I'm getting a Framework. No in betweens.

7:37, Maybe INTEL SOCs with multiple components it may bad to push higher.

So meteor lake did improved a lot.

The best conclusion for this generation is what you said at the end. Totally agree 👍💯

I actually enjoyed that arctic add, was fun

And there I was, thinking this is the year I'm gonna upgrade

Maybe the power mosfets are at their temp limit?

I love your fair review, another strange thing is that AMD in 14 size never comes with 32GB only 16GB giving a credit to Intel, which is strange

Just got a zenbook duo 2024 with a core ultra 9. That thing is insane and It gets like 12 hours of battery with 120hz high brightness

I love this analysis!

The term "short end of the stick" never made much sense to me... The long end is the pointy end, usually...

Ive had both of those zenbooks plus a spectre x360 and i had reliability issues on both of the core ultra chips. Just a bunch of weird bugs and and slow downs for no reasons at all.

Well, I think I’ll be waiting for a meteor lake Framework laptop now. This is interesting