Hey is it safe to use ur results fpr my 13700k either ? not like importing ur profile but following ur steps in video to undervolt my 13700k . atm i just tested -100mV on all cores with -70mV on the fastest ones but didnt chaned anything else yet.

@@disturebd I think you can increase the fast cores ratio for a better single core performance Are u getting good temps with ur current settings ? They're safe to try

@@TECHOSAUR yeah i also have a profile for that cause the one i told u is just for powersaving like if i play LoL where now performance is needet thats the best and my temps after 10 min cinebench r23 are on 85°C max. On the other one i have just -70 mV on all cores but having + 100mhZ all core and did a single / dual core boost to 5,7 Ghz. Where Temps reach 90°C in Cinebench 92°C in Summer. ok so i Try some of Ur settings aswell. I want to get to Know more about undervolting overall. Little sidequestion my freind has a ASUS Rog z790-H Gaming Wifi with a 14700k There XTU dont work with the saving settings tro next resatrt feature and in bios is no " corevoltage offset setting " more like voltage offset bound to a specific clock, do i have to use i differnt offset for every clock or could i just use like -100mV on every step ?. atm -105mV is max i could use on his XTU (tested with AIDA,Cinebench, yChruncher and OCCT for 1h each) and is there a difference between the offset in bios to the ofset if i use xTU ? Thanks for ur replys :)

Does ur profile seen in this video work for an i9 14900k?@@TECHOSAUR

The 14900k has better headroom for undervolting and clock ratio; this profile done for 14700k, but it may work

Thanks, I’m glad to help!

A really well-priced one for all it packs, totally a good recommendation after using it for over 6 months

@@TECHOSAUR i really want it but the next gen will come out in 5 months, they promise 20% better performannce but im not sure if they will deliver and if its even worth to wait that long

Happy to help!

I keep IA AC/DC on auto Because it will interfere with the way it's calculating power limits, it instantly caused instability on mine if make any change on them

Yw, glad to help

Try with level 5 which should have less vdroop; otherwise, increase the voltage a bit until it's stable, or you could reduce the ratio and undervolt it, depending on what you prefer.

I'm on Windows 11 You can disable intel virtualization in bios. That's how I do it But if u prefer win 10, it's possible to do those tweaks in the same manner

What cooling setup do you have? Did you check if your new CPU is thermal throttling? You probably need to undervolt it to see the real benefit over your 10700k. These CPUs run hot by factory settings and undervolting is important even if you are using a custom water loop.

Thank you for tuning in 🙏 I'm honored

I subscribed as well!

Yes, please let me know ASAP. I would be happy to help anyone. I made those guides because I understand the frustration one can feel when they pay for something and are excited to receive something high-end, only to be let down by unexpected behavior. This is normal for all modern Intel CPUs. Perhaps you have read the fuss about their CPUs dying due to improper pre-applied settings. Yes, I have a membership on KZfaq: kzfaq.info/love/-jauq-kZ20FrlnCMkx2gSQjoin Patreon: www.patreon.com/TECHOSAUR You can also join the channel's Discord server if you want to share screenshots, etc. discord.gg/PXmJY6BP8b P.S. I read every single comment 👀

Do you have enough case ventilation? And do you have your case fans oriented in the right position to ensure optimal airflow? If you believe so, I think your only choice is to lower the voltage even further, and if it doesn't work with the set clocks, just reduce the ratio until you balance thermals and performance.

@@TECHOSAUR Yes I believe so, I have the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv, it's a bit older but has great flow. I have the radiator front mounted pulling air in, and then top and back fans extracting air.

@@ithinkv also it can be bented socket. try to remove it and apply new contact frame

@@TECHOSAUR So turns out I had a very small region of faulty memory in my brand new RAM... only showed in the last few seconds of MEMTEST, and never crashed during benchmarks etc. These settings are running pretty stable now, Although I am hitting 90 degrees in cinebench, May need to change the volt offset, do I increase that or lower it (go further negative).

it's good to set them in BIOS, i think XTU has a good use when you are trying to understand limits and values, and once you are satisfied you can port them to BIOS for a definite application, i do that, but XTU is good when you like to switch between different settings on the fly, it's undoubtedly saved me lot of time knowing what to adjust,

Yes, I always update my BIOS whenever there's a new version. I made a video about the one I installed on my ASRock motherboard. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrJyZMl32K_Okac.htmlsi=5w21uTLKyc9m2vpe I've had no issues since the update, but I did have to adjust my XTU profile for the ICCMAX. I hope I can try different motherboard brands because, on ASRock, things seem to be okay, but others from different motherboards aren't finding it easy with those predefined profiles. Maybe ASUS fixed it, but I heard initially their options caused instability

@@TECHOSAUR I have the Asus Strix Z790 D4 (ddr4 edition) and using your "old" profile no no issues thus far in gaming scenarios which is all that matters for me.

I would like one for the 14600k. I would guess the 13600K would be the same, and thus a 13600k tutorial would work for the 14600k? Also, would this 14700k tutorial work for the 14600k and the 13600k? Ty, good video.

No, no, no and no

Sorry, please check the pinned comment. It's there!

@@TECHOSAUR... thanks I found it.

That’s terrible

do you have any AI features enabled in your BIOS? i know that ASUS has tons of them and they would interfere with manual changes make sure to disable any AI auto option if that didn't work, try to shift the voltage offset by 5 each CPU unit has its sweet spot and it can also depend on other BIOS settings you have

Did you change the load line calibration level in bios ? I suggest trying level 4 usually it gives good stability while not overheating

@@TECHOSAUR I did! Level 4 of 8 on my mobo. I fiddled around with it more and the best I can do is -95 offset and only 56 and 55 ratio on the cores. I really wish I could get a higher boost. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Spent a few hours and I feel like I'm getting nowhere.

Me too. Can you solve it ?

Check the 104 microcode article on Reddit: www.reddit.com? I personally never tried it, but I know some who got it working.

You will still have to change the Load Line Calibration in your MSI mobo, choose the middle level because on your model there should be more than 5 levels like it is for my ASRock I think 8, so choose 5 or 4 or one of them is highlighted as best for OC, i mean to keep our undervolting stable under load if you notice higher temp, try to reduce the PL 1, and PL2 slightly, because I think the max TDP for your cooler is 220w, so I would suggest you limit PL1 to around 210 and PL2 to 220W

In my bios core and cache offset is combined but in xtu when u set a core voltage offset the cache voltage is untouched. In xtu i set -0,085 and in my bios i had to set it to -0,04.

If it's working fine on XTU you can keep it and it should auto adjust on windows setup if you activate that option, it's a really light tool so it doesn't consume much resources and you can set different profiles per app or hotkey , it can get so versatile ! But if u prefer using it to understand how to tune ur cpu and then once you get all parameters right, you can then copy them to bios and it should work the same way as it did in XTU

i have the same pc and its imposible cinebench gives me 3250 and 11111 in mask benchmark ... something its wrong with your hw

@@Masterpeing I found out its windows problem I fix it with format

You shouldn't install a different chipset BIOS than the one made for yours. You can visit your motherboard's suppoet page and download the latest version uploaded, which should be the optimal one

You can still undervolt it through the BIOS, as undervolting with XTU will require disabling the virtualization settings to be able to tune voltages negatively. But your only option if you use a VM would be to undervolt it strictly in the BIOS. Please tell me your motherboard model; if I'm familiar with it, I can tell you how to proceed with it.

@@TECHOSAUR Thanks for helping. I have an Asrock Z790 Taichi Lite. Based on your reply, I'll ignore XTU and work only within the BIOS. Following your guide is stimulating. I easily see where undervolting can be switched on/off. Just for fun it's my goal to have a higher Cinebench R23 score than stock, which is currently 33,300-33,700 at temp 95-100C. The quality of my 14700K (a metric your video taught me) is just a ittle better than yours. I can temporarily have all P's @ 57, and all E's @ 44, but soon the ratios reduce due to my 100C temp limit.

I'll try to post it ASAP

Yes, for the XTU profile to be applied, the software should also be running. It's a defensive mechanism in case you experience instability and crash. If the profile were applied without the app running, you could end up stuck and unable to access Windows. This way, you can avoid running the software that is causing the profile issues.

I don't have an Aorus board, if you can connect on discord and send screen shots, I hope to help better there Server link: discord.com/invite/PXmJY6BP8b

Did you disable Intel Virtualization and VT-D?

yes i did , i can even use throttlestop but with intel XTU no chance

Maybe you need to apply the settings first, then check that window to see if that option is available. Or, try reinstalling XTU. It's also possible that your Windows account isn't an administrator account, which could prevent XTU from applying the settings in the Windows scheduler

@@TECHOSAUR Hello, I have already tried all of the above and the problem remains. I also reinstalled XTU as an administrator and forced it to always boot as an administrator, it doesn't let me put the FLAG on that entry. It's a problem that a lot of people have with both Asus and MSI

Turn it off then ?

Which test is failing ? None of them passed? You can try to increase the voltage offset to like -150 Or try with all p cores at 5.5ghz In BIOS which load line calibration do u have? In mine if I set it to level 4 or 5 it's not stable , From level 3 it's working fine It's very important to adjust the load line calibration otherwise it may not be a voltage issue but the vdrop causing the system to not be stable

@@TECHOSAUR Thank you for the reply and the awesome videos you have been making brother

If u can upload a screenshot and link here

Check to see if you have any AI features enabled in the BIOS and deactivate all of them, as they will interfere with any manual changes you make. That likely explains why even small decrements aren't stable. Also, make sure to set the load line calibration level to level 4 on your Asus board. There are 8 levels, so choose the middle one.

Thank you I'll try it out ! subbed@@TECHOSAUR

your cooling setup is better than mine, i got 240mm EK-NUCLEUS, you can easily have them lower whats your motherboard ? if its ASROCK you can follow this other guide to do in bios if you prefer kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f72FYK9i0KnMqps.html that's the only motherboard I have so thats why its the only one with bios settings video too but otherwise you may also follow this method in XTU and it could work on all systems even with different motherboards, its a universal intel tool

System memory agent frequency pertains to the memory, not the CPU core. It aids in tightening memory timings, which determine how tight the timings are that you can boot and stabilize. It helps with CPU uncore components

You need to undervolt it. All the latest Intel CPUs overheat out of the box. They're set to a very high voltage that causes over 100 degrees. Install XTU and try to follow some of this guide to undervolt your 14900k. What's your motherboard? Perhaps you can undervolt it there too.

Thanks for the tip!! will try to revisit this and include it, I plan to make video about intel guidelines, thanks again

Yes, XTU works with all MB brands. Let me know if you try it and have any issues.

what motherboard do you have? you also need to check that you have for load line calibration at least the middle-level set, because by default the auto option is set as the lowest one with the biggest vdrop and that causes instability with further under volting, you need to raise the load line calibration level to maintain voltage better, for example, my ASRock board has 5 levels for load line calibration setting, my sweet spot is 3, always choose the middle-way, you can find this setting in motherboard bios, for example i did it on mine min 09:04

@@TECHOSAUR Hey ! I have z790h asus rog strix i have calibrated it on level 4 because there are 7 levels on my motherboard not like u

did you change the Load Line Calibration level ? i also made a newer guide here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrJyZMl32K_Okac.html hope it may help, i know its different between ASRock and AORUS but at least you can find those settings and ensure they're set in that way, as this one I made guide for is using Intel Guidelines to ensure CPU longevity and stability, also with lower temps

things I activated High settings on load line calibration disabled intel default settings set gigabyte optimum with the max performance profile enabled all performance cores disabled integrated graphics set all fans to run normally qflash to latest bios xmp 2.0 with a 6000mhz oc enabled fast boot set pcie gen 5 set nvme to gen 4 disabled vt-d and undervolt protection disabled virtualization GNA enable specs: Corsair 4000D case with 2 airguide fans in the front of the case. 2 Thermalright fans in the rear of the case both back and top Corsair RM650 PSU Gigabyte Z790 Eagle AX 14700k Thermalright peerless assassin cooler Crucial DDR5 Pro 5600mhz 64 gb ram Crucial p3 EVGA 2080 XC Ultra Yes, I know my psu is extremely underpowered for my system. Yes i know the 2080 is old. Yes i know the P3 isnt gen4 (I believe) BUT I built 2 computers with these specs below Corsair 4000D case with 2 airguide fans in the front of the case. 2 Thermalright fans in the rear of the case both back and top Corsair Rm1000x Gigabyte Z790 Eagle AX 14700k Thermalright peerless assassin Crucial DDR5 Pro 5600mhz 64gb ram Crucial T500 Gigabyte Eagle 4070 TI Super There are a ton of settings I did. Including updating bios and running through all the drivers on the GIGABYTE site. All the drivers through the Nvidia site, and all the windows 11 pro updates and optional updates. His video was a good start for me. but I was still hitting temps at 100c I started TDP -1 at 80c for all cores. TDP -2 at 90c I also used his settings with the intel ai and found a great oc that works. sometimes the XTU app will crash for no reason. its a stupid program that works. you just gotta put it in your startup folder and make sure it is on as soon as you wake your computer from sleep yes. put your computer to sleep. if you want more help. let me know.

Try to reduce the AVX ratio to make it consume less power. OCCT AVX workloads are quite stressful, and lowering the ratio is crucial to prevent overheating.

Perhaps you need to remove its files in app data and temp. Check also program data in the C drive. In view, check the "unhide" items to see those folders.

@@TECHOSAUR I did it until I downloaded a program to delete the data from the Windows registry and it's still the same.

@daniel12603 Hmm, that's weird. I think I remember it happened to me once, after uninstalling XTU, you will still find an XTU folder in the C drive program files, so delete it and reinstall again. I remember that's what I did to fix the stuck logo screen.

I haven't had any issues once I undervolted my CPU. I understand it's a big deal for someone with less knowledge to tune their CPU by reducing its voltage. Intel is supposed to provide an optimal experience out of the box, yet we need to do it ourselves, tbh it's a big damage to Intel's reputation in the PC enthusiast community I made another one here checking intel guidelines: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrJyZMl32K_Okac.htmlsi=5w21uTLKyc9m2vpe

did you run the app in administrator privilege, sometimes lack of admin access may limit the app, also do you see a yellow bolt icon or you disabled under volt protection in BIOS? what CPU and motherboard do you run ? as some OEM PCs may have them disabled consider installing previous version of XTU, sometimes it may work

I replied in discord sorry for the delay 🙏

I've never done it honestly but I think it's safe and u should always be able to set it back to default

Mostly in XTU, in BIOS just the ones I showed such as load line calibration, disabling undervolt protection, intel virtualization, and VT-d.

Check microcode 104 post on Reddit www.reddit.com? I never tried it personally, but I know people thet got it under volted on b760

Did it work after disabling VT-d and Intel virtualization?

@@TECHOSAUR yes it did. Thank you

I just made a recent video here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrJyZMl32K_Okac.html i know the difference in boards could be confusing but in your case did you change the Load Line Calibration setting in BIOS ? before applying those settings in XTU, as I said its necessary to adjust the Load Line Calibration level to the middle option to ensure stability, if you can check the latest video, hope it will be of use, and let me know if you changed anything in BIOS prior to using the XTU profile

Yes I did. I set the it to 3 and then to 4, instability with both. My level 1=greater vdroop, 8=minimum Vdroop. Another note as well, I have “CPU load line calibration” as well as “CPU Input Voltage Load line calibration” in my bios. Do both of these need to be adjusted?

Also, I didn’t change anything besides XMP

Yes i talked about this from 3:25 to 4:34 Well basically you would need to change the microcode 104, that's what I know for b chipset motherboards, i also linked a reddit post that may help you on how to change it, only z boards can have it straight ahead working

@@TECHOSAURthank u so much, I successfully undervolted my 14700KF by setting at -0.180 and I had a huge temperature drop, I also did the test on cinebench and I got 29,669 pts in multicore. I saw that you got 35,878 if you know a way to improve it even more with b760 mb I would be grateful, thx so much 👍🏻

I have b760 plus wifi and have changed the microcode and still cant undervolt only system agent undervolt comes enabled

@@makebittencourt8912 that’s weird, my exact model is b760f gaming wifi, which bios version are u running?

Try adjusting the load line calibration level. You can find that setting in your motherboard BIOS menu. You need to set the middle level, just like I did. For example, mine has five levels, and for me, the sweet spot is level three, where I get a minimum temperature increase but good stability, it's very crucial step to maintain voltage since ar are undervolting, auto setting is usually the lowest

@@TECHOSAUR it is level 3, sometimes it won’t crash immediately, but if I open any game/app it will give me a blue screen or automatically restart the pc

@@TECHOSAUR Would it be possible to actually answer this question? I'm having literally the exact same issue cant figure it out at all. I open XTU, re-apply the settings again and again, same result. Play a game and maybe it works for a little while, 20-30min MAX? Screen freezes, PC dies and breaks to pieces it instantly just goes black, PC makes a "click" noise indicating power switching off, then loads into the BIOS on a page that says load default settings and boot/or reboot. 14700KF, 360mm Kraken Elite AIO, Aorus z790 Pro X, RTX 4070ti Super, 6600DDR5, 990 Pro SSD, Win10 Home, Full Specs. I just want to keep my CPU from averaging 38-45 degrees idle on the desktop, and while under non intensive normal load(Playing video games) averaging 60-70 on any game and some things making it go as high as 85-89 which is absolutely outrageously unnecessary. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you for ur time.

Unfortunately I don't have any device with an Intel ultra CPU, otherwise I would have done a guide about it separately, this one is for Intel 14700k desktop But if ur CPU is unlocked for under volting then it's worth trying tunning it on XTU by using some techniques here, I just haven't got any to test on myself 😔

You could lower clock ratios or increase voltage, since increasing load line calibration to a higher level will make it much hotter, and it's obviously not worth it, making the whole process pointless. If you lower clocks even by one ratio, you will get so much headroom for lowering voltages, which will all reflect in lower temps. It's only ideal to use the balanced LLC to get good stability with reasonable thermals

First of all you don't need to worry at all as it's totally safe to under volt, in fact it's even more healthy for the CPU longevity I think ur 360mm AIO could easily cool it than my 240mm used in this video It also surprised me that my cooler is able to handle it under every load without any issue Now, it's amazing how Intel CPUs can handle under volting, it's like a total whole different experience post tweaking My first suggestion is that you set high standards, always aim for the the highest possible clocks that are able to run stable at a temp range of 80-90c max under heaviest workload On mine I could go as low as 70c on 53 ratio but then I would feel that I actually paid for higher clocks and want to make the use of that so I feel the urge to raise clocks as much as possible with decent temps Also the 2 fast cores can handle higher ratio so you can increase them for higher single core performance In my opinion, based on ur cooling setup there's a good potential in optimizing ur 14700k, you can easily get decent clocks at max 80c, all u need is finding the sweet spot of voltage to ratio, I just shared the technique I know but each one could have different experience Also choosing the right load line calibration level plays a crucial role, I advise choosing the middle one you have on ur board to balance stability and thermals, I think on Asus boards it's level 5 Please feel free to give a follow-up on how it's going if you are attempting to tune it and we can go on with it 👍

​@@TECHOSAUR I'm going to do what you said! thank you very much for your answer. If it is true that it makes no sense to lower the processor frequencies, you pay to have the maximum. But seeing it at 90 or even peaks of 100 degrees in some cores, worries me... If it is true that I play at 1440p with a 4070ti and the processor should be with less load, and not work much cpu. But still, it's hot. So far I've gone down to 5.2ghz stable and it's going better, with max power limit between 250w and 255w. To lower volts it doesn't let me, I have to enable or disable some option on my motherboard before, right? I guess it's the over voltage protection option. I have to deactivate it maybe, true?

Sorry I'm not using an asus board so I don't know about this, if I learn something I'll update you

I think your CPU can reach higher clocks while staying within safe thermal limits. What is your current maximum temperature, cooling setup, and motherboard name? Have you attempted undervolting in the BIOS or XTU?

@@TECHOSAUR i dont know how to enable virtualization based security , cant access intel extreme tuning, i used to have 5.5 ghz but cpu is reaching 100 peak. i have msi z790 max wifi and cooler is Corsair iCUE H100i Elite , thats why i want it to be on 4.9 or 5ghz so it doesnt reach 100c on peak, core 5 and other 1 peaks at 100 then goes back to around 70

I'm not familiar with watchdog What's that ?

@@TECHOSAUR Watchdog timers are used to monitor complex systems and maintain the reliability of a system. In XTU it is needed to detect a crash so to not apply the settings at reboot. Check at the bottom of the system tab of xtu. Problem is, it seems Asus disabled the loading of teh watchdog driver purposely. Why ? My guess is they don't want a software doing what their expensive mobos do, but for free. I dont' see any other explanation. Anyway, XTU on Asus mobos won't reapply settings automatically at boot as watchdog driver isn't loaded. Shame ASUS...

​@@davidg.1387 that sucks. I wanted to undervolt with xtu but I found out it can't be done with asus mobo... even though I have watchdog timer driver installed.

@@DarthCapybara Indeed. You still can do it but you will have to reapply your profile each time. I ended doing this in the bios as before.

Is it Z Or B chipset?

@@TECHOSAUR z790

@@TECHOSAUR finally finded it

@@petruchio00700 in which section if you can share ? perhaps others reading your comment might be in need as well, thanks! 🙂

@@TECHOSAUR go to Tweaker -> Advanced CPU settings -> Under Voltage Protection

I just made a recent video here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrJyZMl32K_Okac.html i know the difference in boards could be confusing but in your case did you change the Load Line Calibration setting in BIOS ? before applying those settings in XTU, as I said its necessary to adjust the Load Line Calibration level to the middle option to ensure stability, if you can check the latest video, hope it will be of use, and let me know if you changed anything in BIOS prior to using the XTU profile

But in BIOS do u have voltage offset ? U don't need to explicitly under volt in XTU, U can do it in ur MSI bios too, there should be voltage settings somewhere

What's ur motherboard model ?

@@TECHOSAUR TUF GAMING Z90-PLUS WiFi

if you don't turn them off, you may get that yellow lighting bolt symbol preventing you from under volting at all, if you dont get it with them ON then its not mandatory

@@TECHOSAUR I have basically the same config as yours. Asrock Z790 PG lightning + 14700kf + 16x4 corsair 6400mhz. Could you help me pass these XTU configs directly to the BIOS?

@LucasSousaRosa try this another guide where I did them in bios, same asrock motherboard: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f72FYK9i0KnMqps.htmlsi=4TbHpcYOGtsPCu1r Hope it helps

Defending on what ur cooling can take, what's ur current Power limits? You can either choose to lower ratio and this way you avoid getting power throttled or increase power limit and that may cause higher temps

Check that under volt protection isn't enabled on ur system otherwise you can't under volt it, also Intel virtualization and VT-D should be off in my bios settings Check part 3:30 If u have that yellow thunderbolt symbol you can't import my voltage offset

​@@TECHOSAUR Undervolt Protection, Intel Virtualization and VT-d are OFF on MSI BIOS of my motherboard. In fact, XTU app not working if not disabled these "technologies". It's not appears the yellow thunderbolt symbol and my pc shutdown a little time after applied the profile :( I have a question about the energy, is important the Active Power Plan in Windows? I have "Balanced" profile. The XTU version app is 7.14.0.15 Thanks and Regards from Spain.

@@Mr_Raymon i have your exact hardware and same problems! u managed to solve?

@@p_p Unfortunately, no :( I tried various Core Voltage Offset values ​​but I only got blue screens.

I'll try when I get an asus board, thanks

@@TECHOSAUR looking forward for it 😃

In bios u don't have a tweaker tab ?

@@TECHOSAURi just managed to find it when press ctrl + f but i see the CPU load lina calibration control from mode 1 to mode 8

Try High and under volt

Install CPU-Z. You can check its full specifications. Also, does the IHS say the name 14700K or KF? You also need to evaluate if it's thermal throttling, consequently getting such a low score. Did you leave the BIOS settings to default? Because I'm not sure if you have Intel Boosting on or off. If it's at the base clock, it's normal to get a low score.

@@TECHOSAUR I ordered kf and i got it in k box And I didn’t change any BIOS Settings I only enabled XMP for ram + when i did all ur steps In Cinebench r23 benchmark CPU temp goes to 96c 99c 100c Is it the reason im getting low score And in XTU intel benchmark Head dont go over 90 and i only get 7000 Every i7 14th users get 11 12 13k

@@A9z1o1z what clocks are you getting on Cinebench ? check in XTU in the bottom dashboard, or you can see in HWINFO well the K is better than the KF, the difference is that the K has an Intel iGPU inside, so if your discrete GPU stops working you can use your CPU iGPU for debugging and still be able to use your PC, the KF variant lacks the iGPU, but for CPU cores it's exactly the same layout btw I tried to reply to you on Discord but it says you are not on any server in common so my message didn't get delivered 😂

@@TECHOSAUR Yeah sry after i message you i leaved the server 😂 But i heard there is no differnce between them i7 14700k/kf only some one with GPU and some one without GPU and i search for PPL benchmarks on both The all get in Cinebench R23 ( 32000 pts )+ and in intel XTU benchmark ( 11k or 12k or 13k ) but me i got in Cinebench R23 ( 22000 ) and in intel XTU ( 7300 ) so i think i got scamed maybe the amazon seller sold me i7 10th but he change he's name to 14th 😂

​@@TECHOSAUR maybe the only solution is to retun it and order K 😅

if u have rivatuner unistall and do not reinstall bro

you want to over clock or reduce temperature by undervolting ?

Try to troubleshoot by checking whether it's stable at a lower ratio. The silicon quality may be different

Did you disable under volt protection ?

But we didn't compromise on frequency as well. I pushed all clocks while boosting the two fast cores to a higher frequency, all while undervolting. However, when you have a lower temperature, you will get consistently good performance, and that will reflect in the final score. While initially, with stock settings, it may boost higher, as soon as it thermally throttles, it will downclock itself hard. Still, voltages will be high to begin with, and it will never recover. With lower voltage, you will give it headroom to boost and stay consistently, offering optimum performance.

@@TECHOSAUR i see, its now about 20 years that i didnt had a desktop, i used laptops but i felt the need for a powerful PC so im building one. Till now i got the Thermaltake Divider 370 case, Deepcool PX1000G ATX 3.0 PSU, Asus Z790 Prime A WIFI motherboard, i9 13900k processor and a Thermalright contact frame, 2x16 G Skill Trident Z DDR5 6000mt/s CL32 memory, 980 Pro SSD. Today i will receive the Deepcool LT720 AIO cooler and i will be able to start the PC and test it for stability and try to tweak it. I will buy the GPU sometime later cause no money left for now, i gathered all the components in a few months and i was hunting for good deals. I will try to understand and learn more about undervolting, and can you recommend some torture test softwares for RAM memory and CPU. From what i read for RAM would be good MemTest86, for CPU Prime95 and OCCT? Thanks a lot!

Z790 GAMING X AX ? XTU is a universal tool and could work on all manufacturers boards

Which Load line calibration level did u set in bios ? In MSI board there should be 8 modes , you can try option 4 Also what's ur CPU cooler ?

@@TECHOSAUR I have calibration 8 option I am at 4 and I have an artic freeze II 360

@@TECHOSAUR I can't adjust my high temperature help me please😭

Is the undervolting slider activated?

and in games sometimes, as i have something like a micro lags .. very sad about that, what can i do? in XTU p-core are 5.6 rest 5.5, all e-cores 4.4 , core voltage offset -0.150, turbo boost power max 280 W, turbo boost short power max 300W, couse i have arctic frezeer II 360 , power supply bequiet! PURE POWER 12M 1000W ATX 3.0 Power options in high performance.

Make sure to download the chipset driver from your motherboard page, it's very important for windows to recognize your CPU and this greatly helps in fixing micro stuttering issues It's normal that sometimes XMP profile aren't stable, I also had similar experience and just reducing memory speed from 7200 to 7000 made it stable but also it's good that in this way u can manually tighten the memory timings like just a bit since we reduced speed a bit, just for copium 😆 It worked for me stable when I reduced the cas timings like at least 1 each Let me know if installing the chipset driver fixed ur stuttering problems, install all of them like Intel management engine and latest BIOS etc

I downloaded all drivers from Gigabyte Center app after instalation win. but i can try from site, about xmp, i have good timings in xmp3 , i can choose xmp3 and reduce from 6000 to 5600, will be good?@@TECHOSAUR

Do you have Asus AI features turned on? They might interfere. Also, set load line calibration to level 4 for your motherboard.

I do a lot of testing approximately a week of extensive trials and errors to find the best config at least for my CPU unit, motherboard and cooling setup Every system could get a different result but I was just sharing my experience with mine and the process I followed exactly I'm still using those configs and it's really much cooler now, I love Intel CPUs for their big headroom to under volt 👍

@@TECHOSAUR I also like the Intel i7-14700K. I'll rethink if it's worth replacing when I have an i7-13700K that's also pretty good. I'm using a cheap cooler, and the telots are about 70°C in games with undervolting. But a lot of people are badmouthing Intel... I also have and RYZEN 7800x3D and it's +- the same for gaming.

Did you try resetting the (CMOS)? You need to have undervolt protection, VT-d, and Intel virtualization all three turned off in the BIOS.

No. But after resting bios to default it worked . Currently testing verious offset value as pc crashing on Above .100 I think it's good with .65

@nanngahatoori, make sure to change the Load Line Calibration level. I think your motherboard has eight levels. Try level 4. This way, you can undervolt it more than -0.065 mV. I got it stable at -0.150 mV. In order to start seeing a significant temperature drop, you need to reduce the voltage by at least 0.100 mV.

@@TECHOSAUR owoo that's what I forgot to do.. 🫨🫨 .. can you help where to find it in gigabyte z790

@nanngahatoori Look for it in the Tweaker tab. It's called CPU VCORE Load line calibration, then tell me the levels you find there

@rons100 you can check this more recent one which combines those undervolting configs plus Intel's new guidelines for better stability. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrJyZMl32K_Okac.htmlsi=T6DNmLb7gLIXn-4X

@@TECHOSAUR thank you

I run the component stress tester, so when u open Y-cruncher you press options in this order : 1 - Components Stress Tester 7 - Enable all 0 - Start

@@TECHOSAUR thanks

desculpe, não entendi, o que você quer dizer com valores de fábrica XTU? você quer dizer como redefinir os valores de volta à fábrica?

Okay did you change the load line calibration level ? It shouldn't be on auto with this config Try to select the middle level found in ur motherboard If that didn't work try to reduce the voltage offset by -5 Keep doing that until it's stable or you can check whether you need to reduce clock ratios, but I would suggest you first to try the load line Calibration middle level

I tried -5 and medium in calibration i get same blue screen

@@karlfrancisco8981 do you get BSOD immediately or after running a specific workload ? perhaps lowering the AVX2 ratio could help if its an AVX specific

All running. But in my case it did not reaching max pcore 5.8ghz

You probably need to undervolt more. How much Vcore voltage offset did you change? Of course, if you change load-line calibration from auto to a middle level without undervolting, you will get higher temperatures. Setting LLC to any level other than auto (which usually takes the lowest possible value) should be combined with undervolting to take advantage.

@@TECHOSAUR like video -165mv, how much more? I also have 5 levels of LLC but they are defined low high standard etc. And I made sure it's the middle one. But without it the system bricks so I guess it's important to have it on and I say I should undervolt even more? How much more? Assuming it's worse than default right now

@razvanilie6346 that's strange, did you monitor power consumption before and after? Check in hwinfo for some metrics before and after, it might not be booting with it

@@TECHOSAUR it gets applied as I see in hwmonitor the settings changed.

@razvanilie6346 Do you have any AI or auto multi-core enhancement settings applied in your Gigabyte BIOS? I'm not sure if they might interfere. It's weird that with lower voltage you are getting higher temperatures. For LLC, I know that Gigabyte has 8 levels. Did you choose high or extreme?

you mean in XTU or game settings ?

@@TECHOSAURin xtu

@@denvernaicker8250 it was just for demo, i never made any specific profile 😂 but if i were to make one for gaming specifically, i think i would raise the p cores clocks, especially the 2 fast cores even with an increased voltage since in gaming it run less hot than in heavier workloads so there's a room for increasing voltage and clocks, but i just felt that the one default preset was just too good for all purpose like low temps, decent clocks, maybe because after spending a whole week doing it i felt lazy 😆

There is an “undervolt protection” setting in your motherboards bios. It only allows undervolting in the bios and not in the system os. You probably need to disable it in the bios.

​@@Norman34O1not only it does it Disable Intel Virtualization Disable Undervolt Protection Disable Core Protection in windows

He mentions this a 3:38 in the video............

Did u change bios options?. Most importanly the Load line calibration like I did at certain part of the video