Intel's Taped & Glued Arc A770 GPU: Tear-Down & Disassembly of Limited Edition Card

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In this video, we're tearing apart the brand new Intel Arc A770 16GB Limited Edition video card (it's not actually limited). All testing was conducted prior to the tear-down and the card, of course, still works. The A770 card is dressed-up with LEDs -- and they are nice -- but it uses a mixture of double-sided tape, glue, normal tape, and screws to hold it all together. This tear-down shows you how Intel built its new in-house board for the A770 GPU, but for the performance review & benchmarks, check out our other video on the channel.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Tearing Into Intel's A770 Card
03:45 - The First Step
05:04 - Just Yank Hard
09:05 - Did Ya Hear the Quality?
10:30 - BANG
11:52 - A LOT OF TAPE
14:27 - The Problem with the Backside Plate
16:24 - The PCB is Free
17:58 - Exterior Die Size A770 & More Glue
20:30 - Taking Apart the Shroud
23:45 - Insane Levels of Customization
25:30 - Conclusion
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@GamersNexus Жыл бұрын

Watch our Intel A750 GPU review: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mstlZMR7mJnIfZ8.html Grab a GN Tear-Down Toolkit! store.gamersnexus.net/products/gamersnexus-tear-down-toolkit or a GN Large Modmat! store.gamersnexus.net/products/modmat-volt-large (both in stock & shipping at time of posting) Watch our Intel Arc A770 review & benchmarks: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pKuml9WT3brYhqM.html

@Lamiishere Жыл бұрын

Cringe Af

@SirPoppy Жыл бұрын

@@Lamiishere the only cringe thing is your non-existant father

@Keepskatin Жыл бұрын

Intel is a Beast, the performance of this card is Ace a1😵🪴

@CalvinJary Жыл бұрын

From the guys that brought you: AMD just glued together their chiplets comes: a truly glued together card

@lummoxicide1502 Жыл бұрын

Hey Steve, does your team have any plans to release a shorty set of the GN screwdriver kit

@incollectio Жыл бұрын

A screwless design with only 55-56 screws. Impressive.

@XtreeM_FaiL Жыл бұрын

It is also wireless.

@homelessEh Жыл бұрын

@@XtreeM_FaiL some one do the meme tictoc/yt short.. get an old busted videocard but take a Drill to it and screw like 30 Deck screws into it.. watch the intel sales pitch video of SCREWLESS design!! flash over to you holding your videocard thats literally got Deck screws all through it even take an old ide cable and screw screws all through the cable .. then look dissapointed at your Screw design videocard.. and fade out to you dreaming of a Screwless intel videocard.. then show the classic windows bluescreen as an ending lol

@lessthanlogical Жыл бұрын

Anything under 64 screws is practically no screws at all. This is a well known industry standard, yes?

@YiotisTheGnome Жыл бұрын

We should probably add another 1 or 2 on that number. 1 for Steve for going thru the whole process of tearing it down. And another for the poor person that has to put it back together. (probably Steve again).

@EwanMarshall Жыл бұрын

and multiple different kinds so you now must add factory processes to slow production to make sure the right ones go in the right place...

@Nesformers Жыл бұрын

We've gone from intel trowing shade at glued CPUs to Intel's glued together GPUs

@GamersNexus Жыл бұрын

That definitely should have been referenced in the video. Great point! haha

@enraversadi2903 Жыл бұрын

they deserve to get shit on for that.

@Rspsand07 Жыл бұрын

Intel locks down OC on their mobos and CPU tiers for no reason, so it's not really surprising they don't want you opening your GPU

@lilblackduc7312 Жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus This approach to construction is why the Apollo 1 crew capsule burned. 👎🏿👎🏿

@frizzlefry1921 Жыл бұрын

Indubitably.

@Sypher474 Жыл бұрын

Honestly looks like a laptop engineering and manufacturing team were outsourced by Intel for this. Very similar elements in many machines I've disassembled

@tomaszzalewski4541 Жыл бұрын

Considering that this is Intel first serious try I propably wouldn't say outsourced more as they had to create the team from scrath. Remeber they mostly are making CPU's so their Graphics card looking similar is to be expected. Personally I m just happy that we finally have An RGB (AMD, Nvidia and Intel)

@deldarel Жыл бұрын

@@tomaszzalewski4541 None of this seems very in-house. The design looks classic business-casual Intel and in line with their new stock coolers, but the finish, materials, assembly and build quality feel very out of place for intel. I think the in-house design went as far as a 3D cad render. My guess is that they banked on board partners to take over. The founder edition is called 'limited edition'. They had to get these cards out or it'd be another chicken and egg problem. Nobody really bit other than Asrock.

@xynonners Жыл бұрын

@@deldareland acer Also, the LE moniker is exclusive to the A770, the A750 FE is not considered "LE."

@deldarel Жыл бұрын

@@xynonners my bad, I must have misunderstood it when someone said the FE is only made by Intel. Acer made one, which is barely available and terrible value. The only thing it does well is catch eyes. It's more a billboard that acer makes gpus now rather than a serious product

@momchilandonov Жыл бұрын

@@xynonners Intel has A750 limited edition ;).

@Tyler-rs3wy Жыл бұрын

Watching you take that apart was stressful. I can only imagine what it's like assembling or servicing it. RMA/maintenance teams are going to love these cards.

@SlenderSmurf Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure this thing has more screws and cables than my laptop, and that was a small hell to replace the fans on

@EM83D Жыл бұрын

@@SlenderSmurf Some notebooks have the same hell but most of them offer quite easy fan replace without the need of full disassembly. This GPU looks neat but repairability is near zero.

@jayjaygolden5123 Жыл бұрын

"here you, a replacement rtx 3060. what do you mean, that wasnt your card? shhh shhh, its better this way, just pretend its okay and move on"

@danieloberhofer9035 8 ай бұрын

Coming back to this a year later makes you realize: They probably never repaired defective units anyway, because they're probably happy for every card they get out of a warehouse - even if it's just a replacement for a defective one.

@Nomanspie Жыл бұрын

Intel: "Check out our screwless design" GN: "this GPU is basically made of screws"

@JeanPiFresita Жыл бұрын

But what is really laughable is that not even all 65 screws are the same... there are up to 5 different types among all of them... wtf?????

@getsideways7257 Жыл бұрын

@@JeanPiFresita At least they didn't come up with custom heads...

@lop1652 Жыл бұрын

@@getsideways7257 Yea, at least they are not Apple bad.... Yet.

@getsideways7257 Жыл бұрын

@@lop1652 If they'll invest more into intricate design, we might see videos of even higher entertainment value once their next gen hits.

@getsideways7257 Жыл бұрын

@The13thRonin Well, people always ask for variety...

@wabash9000 Жыл бұрын

I work in engineering for a company that does small electronics manufacturing and our assemblers complain to engineering when we put 6 screws on a product. If we put 20 screws on a product, our whole manufacturing department would quit. If we put 55 on one product, they would probably find out where the engineers live and burn our houses down.

@Aereto Жыл бұрын

And if there's only tape and 0 screws, the Right to Repair enthusaists may hunt down the homes of those assemblers wanting to remove screws, seal tape the doors and windows, and gas them all in CS for 24 hours. emphasis on 24 hours because riot gas is not lethal unless you make them to be.

@Kirito14682 Жыл бұрын

They used glue and tape which means putting it back together is going to be so much fun. Any type of rma feels like it's better off just replacing the card

@thebrute0747 Жыл бұрын

Sounds about right. "TOOLS?! WE HAVE TO USE A SCREWDRIVER?! UGHHHHHH"

@bradonhoover3002 Жыл бұрын

But, hear me out, 55 screws *and* there's 8 extremely similar variants throughout the product decided almost randomly

@Kirito14682 Жыл бұрын

@@bradonhoover3002 It looks like they had random variety of screws, why else would they have different variants on the same location

@andrewperkovich8184 Жыл бұрын

when you took off that cheap backplate, i was like "why did they put that over?" it looks actually pretty nice with it off. watching this tear down gives me dell computer vibes with over use of plastic and weird engineer.

@staticallX Жыл бұрын

That's one cool LED board by Intel. It even has video card as an extra!

@in_sound_mind Жыл бұрын

I'm still amazed how comically large 4090 is.

@theideaofevil Жыл бұрын

It looks like an oversized novelty toy graphics card lmao

@Kubose Жыл бұрын

Craziest part is, that FE is one of the smaller 4090's, der8auer put up a comparison with the Aorus Master 4090 and it makes the FE look small somehow.

@tymandude1510 Жыл бұрын

It looks like a literal brick. I bet you could build a pretty structurally sound house of them!

@infernaldaedra Жыл бұрын

@@tymandude1510If you could run all the GPUs you would probably make the house a sauna lol

@luckyowl10 Жыл бұрын

Is it just me or it looks like A770 is about half as thicc as 4090

@sleeplessindefatigable6385 Жыл бұрын

I can see fan replacement procedures for these to consist of: 1: attack shroud with hacksaw. 2: strap noctua fans on with tape. 3: connect noctua fans to chassis header.

@UNSTOPABLE40XBOX Жыл бұрын

And i bet better temps

@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Жыл бұрын

Probably a more effective use of time.

@Jerevinan Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a future Dawid video.

@kevlarandchrome Жыл бұрын

@@Jerevinan It would have to be Noctua knock-offs from Ali Express though.

@gslidevideotester8592 Жыл бұрын

Doubly important since apparently the official driver has no fan control support.

@Mach141 Жыл бұрын

Love these tear down videos! These are not manufactured to be disassemble frequently, but listening to Steve whine and complain makes it all worthwhile!

@somesalmon5694 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful screwless design, very impressive!

@hebediahgoldbach3031 Жыл бұрын

Now show Paul Allens graphicscard.

@joshbailey4124 Жыл бұрын

If whoever edits these thinks they've at some point used the "thanks Steve" clip too much, you haven't. Makes me laugh every time

@Lazaerus Жыл бұрын

I'm still trying to figure out who the guy is that stands up and goes "ow my knees... :("

@quieroverduras Жыл бұрын

@@Lazaerus Wendell from LEVELONETECHS is the guy with the sore knees

@shinjipyon Жыл бұрын

@@Lazaerus he’s from Level1Techs Been following him since Tek Syndicate days

@sewer56lol Жыл бұрын

Please, do not stop. It cracks me up everytime.

@ayuchanayuko Жыл бұрын

_Thank you papa_

@Lambda.Function Жыл бұрын

Let's see how much they improve in their next gen cards. Both in performance and build quality. I'm really hoping to see them competing with the mid range ATI and nvidia cards with solid quality, then we'll just have to worry about drivers.

@bornonthebattlefront4883 Жыл бұрын

Ehhh Don’t hold your breath There was a A780 that was supposed to come out that met the 3070 in performance It didn’t work Next gen Intel MIGHT come in 2024, and by that point, it’s gonna be competing against RDNA5 and RTX 6000 They would do good if they reach 4060 performance That’s if Intel doesn’t can Arc completely on desktop

@ocococococococococococococ3267 Жыл бұрын

@@bornonthebattlefront4883 in 2024 intel is gonna compete against rtx 50xx not 60xx

@lukerutledge1357 Жыл бұрын

bro actually called them ATI not AMD

@Lambda.Function Жыл бұрын

@@lukerutledge1357 IYKYK

@mokseee Жыл бұрын

@@lukerutledge1357 I'm just barely old enough to remember that I had one of the last ATI Cards in my first laptop

@sleeplesshollow4216 Жыл бұрын

Gamers Nexus you've become really funny lately good to see so much of your personality show through these latest videos.

@Crftbt Жыл бұрын

7:24 love the screwless screws in the screwless design.

@vibonacci Жыл бұрын

This was not in the announced announcement of the announcement.

@GamersNexus Жыл бұрын

Screwless screws are pretty amazing. You don't even need to unscrew a screw to unscrew the screw.

@NPzed Жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus We're screwed!

@zam1007 Жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus Screwless screw, reminds me of my wife 😶

@charlesballiet7074 Жыл бұрын

the drivers had a few loose screws with so they overcompensated with the shroud design

@jaywhite15_AL Жыл бұрын

Your constant using of Intel's own presentation is top notch. 💯😂

@TheJamie109 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for suffering through this for us steve. When I need to tear it down, your videos are so valuable, and will save me completely destroying it. It won't go back exactly the same though, which really dissapointed me.

@Reyfox1 Жыл бұрын

It was leftover glue from AMD "gluing" their chips together...Intel got it at a great price.

@spankbuda7466 Жыл бұрын

Intel is finally sticking it to AMD.

@Fay7666 Жыл бұрын

No they're sticking it to their own GPUs.

@dra6o0n Жыл бұрын

@@spankbuda7466 "Sticking to AMD"

@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Жыл бұрын

@@dra6o0n lmao

@steves9260 Жыл бұрын

Laughed so hard at the Wendell cameo for a "Thanks Steve!". I swear it only gets funnier.

@TemporalOnline Жыл бұрын

Ow my knee!

@loamymtb Жыл бұрын

That one really took me by surprise haha

@bhijdasasdjhasdbjkdasbjkfasbjk Жыл бұрын

the 'Thanks Steve' cuts always make me laugh ; great vid as usual!

@ROK5TAR 3 күн бұрын

“Thank you papa….yeah”

@gavin5861 Жыл бұрын

I really like the look of these GPUs, they nailed the aesthetics, I hope they continue the look or other manufacturers make more GPUs this clean.

@armorgeddon Жыл бұрын

I'd rather look at the display signal it's outputting.

@willmaud2359 11 ай бұрын

@@armorgeddon Most GPUs have gaudy ornamentation, so simple designs fall in line with that.

@denkigundam Жыл бұрын

"Thanks Steve" never gets old. Always makes me chuckle. Always well placed. Keep up the good work, can't wait for the new shirt!

@Lethaltail Жыл бұрын

Ow, my knees!

@Ikxi Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Denki

@Zwettekop Жыл бұрын

Where the hell is that from?

@BBWahoo Жыл бұрын

Thank you papa *taps chest* Yeah... 🥰

@lukephillips5618 Жыл бұрын

@@Zwettekop Intel's presentation at Computex 2021. Here's the Gamer's Nexus video on it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hdR-jZaZqNCtpqc.html

@JayBlancVideos Жыл бұрын

If only there were some company with experience in graphics card manufacturing that suddenly had excess capacity in terms of their entire graphics card manufacturing not doing anything right now, then Intel could talk to them about manufacturing graphics cards.

@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart Жыл бұрын

But they'd need to actually deliver GPU dies to said company, without being late by a whole two quarters.

@austinmcelwaine6249 Жыл бұрын

@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart since when has intel been concerned about delaying a product?

@monzarace Жыл бұрын

would that be a certain company who has just announced that they dropped nvidia...?...

@breakingyourlegs Жыл бұрын

Yeah, if only such a company would exist...

@Frawt Жыл бұрын

@@monzarace Wow! Fuck having any subtlety in humour! Guys! lmao haha Is the company EVGA????????!?!?!?! xdxdxdxd No FUCKING SHIT IT'S THAT SAME COMPANY.

@kevlarandchrome Жыл бұрын

Congratulations Intel, you managed to make modern car engineers look competent at design and ease of servicing.

@o_sagui6583 Жыл бұрын

God that's even more of a cursed thought when you consider that cars now have subscriptions for built in features like heated seats and stereo . . . We're fucking doomed and the cause is going to be wasted silicon

@kevlarandchrome Жыл бұрын

@@o_sagui6583 Most likely.

@RCmaniac667 Жыл бұрын

Let's not go that far lol

@mndlessdrwer Жыл бұрын

Nah, Ford still has them beat. I have to remove my bumper and the headlight housing itself just to change a light bulb. GPUs don't even have what should be considered "consumable" components, particularly when they go to the trouble of sourcing Cooler Master fans for their card. Short of Noctua, they're about as good as you can get in terms of sheer reliability. Really, the only thing that you might want to change before 5 years passes, since the fans aren't terribly likely to die before then, is the thermal paste, which is a less involved process now that we know you don't need to remove the screws holding down the little LED control PCB. use a plastic spudger to carefully lift the back panel, unscrew the handful of screws holding the back plate to the midplate and the GPU die to the cooler and pop it apart. Use a pair of pliers or forceps to unseat the connectors and you're good to go with replacing the thermal paste and pads.

@Dan-yk6sy Жыл бұрын

How many miles before you change the oil on your GPU?

@timhartherz5652 Жыл бұрын

If you ever need to replace a fan: Just break the old one out of the housing and hotglue a case fan to the front.

@oplefirem Жыл бұрын

Oddly brilliant

@hsitko Жыл бұрын

Steve. I appreciate you. Thank you for this enjoyable content. Thank you for being thorough and detailed. Keep using your powers for awesome.

@gothroachkinski754 Жыл бұрын

How are you guys so good with using the "Thanks Steve" footage without it ever getting old? I still laugh every time it comes up, you guys are masterful at finding the right moments to invoke it.

@konzo5942 Жыл бұрын

i know right, complete opposite of that emotional damage meme that got old and annoying so fast with other youtubers

@iamdopeasfcuk Жыл бұрын

they use it after steve says "thanks intel". it's not rocket science finding an area to place that footage in the vid.

@luckyowl10 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Papa is the new meme, it's priceless

@_Sigfried_ Жыл бұрын

4:38 Perfectly cut drop. Whoever's editing this, Thanks. I personally love these little touches.

@geletrode Жыл бұрын

yeah i love these random little easter eggs in the GN videos. funny af too

@james9449 Жыл бұрын

Maybe it's an LTT advertisement hehe

@furballphillip Жыл бұрын

The editor had a field day with this video, I love it. 😂

@TNS-AudioMastering Жыл бұрын

Love it.. exploring the disassembly..

@Joostinonline Жыл бұрын

As someone who frequently works on laptops, I feel for you. Also, a tip on taped stuff. Put it on wax paper. It prevents dust buildup and stops it from sticking to anything else.

@PDXCustomPCS Жыл бұрын

Hey I appreciate the tip. 19 years later, hate laptops still. I never once thought or read of this. Lol.

@Joostinonline Жыл бұрын

@cas curse Do you even do professional computer repair? That is so unbelievably impractical. People don't want to wait a month and be charged an extra $20 because a technician can't be bothered to properly reuse parts. It's also a huge waste. Yes, keep some double sided tape for strengthening things, but don't order replacements for everything when it isn't actually necessary.

@kiyoponnn Жыл бұрын

@@Joostinonline are you smoking crack? you should always have enough stock of the things you use the most for repairs, it's common sense 101

@raphaelambrosiuscosteau829 Жыл бұрын

@cas curseActually now that i read it again, your comment might be about fully replacing just adhesive itself with an "official" kit or whatever, if so this is mostly reasonable if you can keep these kits in stock on site. You are still being cringe about it though and keeping a stock of official adhesive replacement kits might be impossible for new models of "certain brands", because they don't allow you to keep anything in stock lol. But you can mostly disregard everything below if that's the case and you aren't actually replacing entire part if it is at all glued. Still, relax a little. My brother in christ, you aren't sending rockets to the space, you are repairing low grade consumer electronics, stop being uppity about it. If you are replacing any part that needs glue or tape, you either are an idiot or lying about what you do. What if the back of a perfectly fine phone screen is glued, gonna order a replcement too? Just take a blade and some alcohol, scrape the glue residue off and replace the adhesive with whatever's appropriate

@bigtitmaster Жыл бұрын

wow, didnt even think of that. thanks

@wertywerrtyson5529 Жыл бұрын

I recently did a thermal repaste on a decade old card and I was amazed by how easy it was. I certainly used to be much easier to tear down cards.

@Fin4L6are Жыл бұрын

It's not used to be, it just depends on if the manufacturer wants to be user friendly

@shurin3126 Жыл бұрын

Nah you had utter nightmares in the past too, its just a matter of asshole design

@hrvstmn31 Жыл бұрын

@Michaels Carport Same, its was a 6950 by a company that I don't think even exists anymore. It was 4 or so screws and one connector for the fans.

@Knaeckebrotsaege Жыл бұрын

I repasted my old MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X (non-Ti) recently. Four screws and two plugs (logo LEDs and fans) to take the entire giant cooler off. Meanwhile I actually had to look up a fcking tutorial for my RX 6800...

@UD503J Жыл бұрын

Yep I did a fan replacement and repaste on an RX590 recently. Knocked about 6 degrees off a Timespy run, and about 10 off of ambient.

@VladKov36 Жыл бұрын

20:24 haha

@zimmerman1031 Жыл бұрын

Nothing like being a new player in the game, and you not only do not innovate, you actually push things in the opposite direction for design. Well done Intel, showing us all how it's done.

@juanmassiosare9850 Жыл бұрын

When you get used to "competing" in a Quasi-Monopoly, these things happen.

@johnsondeng Жыл бұрын

Never get tired of hearing Steve have an "Ohhh come on!!!" outburst in a tear-down video.

@monzarace Жыл бұрын

I think the funniest part is where Steve tries to pick up that top plate from the table. Well, at least it stuck to that... Cheers.

@gamingmarcus Жыл бұрын

This for sure looks like the NUC engineers had a field day. They love those crazy elaborate designs.

@Gabu_ Жыл бұрын

Probably exactly what happened. "We have an entire division that's used to making small enclosures, right? Have them design it"

@Justchuck69 Жыл бұрын

You do realize that NUC is a separate company from Intel and part of the Intel Partner Alliance but they did make quite a few Ryzen based NUCs too! Some where under the Ruby name I think!

@prochizcz Жыл бұрын

@@Justchuck69 No, NUCs are specifficaly designed by intel and name NUC itself is trademarked by them, AMD alternatives exist but they are not and can't be called NUC. NUC alternatives for AMD are called mini pcs

@mndlessdrwer Жыл бұрын

Nobody likes crazy, elaborate designs more than smartphone engineers. They will use half a dozen flat-flex ribbon cables to shave half a millimeter off of the packaging size of the components compared to just building a larger PCB. They also love auxiliary PCBs more than any other industry, because it lets them move things around to wherever they have space left for it. And that's before we get to the last couple of generations of phones where the modern "sandwich PCB" has come into common use, where they basically use soldered connectors to bind two layers of PCB together with basically no gap between them so they can squeeze as much components into the most compact space possible. We should just be glad that Intel didn't hire smartphone PCB engineers for their GPUs. We should also probably be grateful that laptops haven't started to use those designs, because then they would be even less repairable.

@joshuac837 Жыл бұрын

I'm sure they would have an amazing get-together with BMW engineers lmao

@robertt9825 Жыл бұрын

I like it when there's a new gn video because it means I can get some sleep

@joecrak249 7 ай бұрын

I love the desine on this card I agree though it shouldn't be that hard to tear down and get into for a user to be able to preform maintenance for a longer life. this was a great video as are most from this channel happy I found it.

@santinojoshuatorre1695 Жыл бұрын

good grief - this was such a pain to watch that I hope EVGA sees this and partners up with intel out of sheer pity,

@joemarais7683 Жыл бұрын

I don’t think they’d want to make video cards that have broken software that’ll result in tons of returns and rmas. But they’d be the perfect partner to produce red lined variants.

@lilblackduc7312 Жыл бұрын

EVGA probably knows, there's some things even a pro just can't fix?

@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Жыл бұрын

@@lilblackduc7312 EVGA probably knows a pro can fix anything. ...At a cost.

@JABelms Жыл бұрын

@@joemarais7683 Not the first time EVGA dealt with weird ass/half working products. My friend loved EVGA Classified shit that I was there trying to fix them as well

@Silverhazey_ Жыл бұрын

Oh man, that “Thanks Steve!” Intel reply at 7:27 is golden please keep that clip in use, shit was hilariously timed.

@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Жыл бұрын

I like whenever they use it. The "ow my knees" is pretty good too.

@vlafvlaf5934 Жыл бұрын

Wysi

@Tommy-gc7us Жыл бұрын

Oh my god 727

@forestR1 Жыл бұрын

9:23 is even better XD

@AdnanCucak Жыл бұрын

I laughed so hard

@OpenLogicEFI Жыл бұрын

Love your work and I value your opinions in my purchases. I design PCB's for automotive use for a living. I can add a little insight to one part of this. That LED ring PCB isn't actually the worst idea from a design standpoint. It's extremally simple and you'd be surprised how cheap it would be to manufacture especially in bulk. I also bet it was designed in a few hours. Not allot of time or money in that specific part. The way it's attached on the other hand, I have to agree with you there. Small plastic clips on the housing, screws really anything but tape or glue.

@joshuasisson6816 Жыл бұрын

I design pcbs as well. They probably had the rings and edge boards done on the same panel. Given how thin they are I wouldn't expect the board to be much more than a dollar, if that. Low current as well and that drops the copper thickness down as well.

@nogravitas7585 Жыл бұрын

Yeah the fan circles 24:18 and led shroud pcb 24:00 fit neatly inside one another and the space inside each circle is enough for the ARC led pcb 13:11 and that other LED pcb 11:54 are all probably made in one piece so it isn't as wasteful as people would expect. The use of threaded inserts where "wood" screws into hollow plastic posts would've sufficed means this was designed by someone used to low volume production though.

@MrHaggyy Жыл бұрын

Heyoh, i build systems for automotive. And i really liked these LED-PCB's and they are really cheap if you consider all functions they do. What i don't like at all are those extra power PCB. You have a connector from a PCB, to a PCB to get to a PCB in on single unit ... just why. It's like 3-5 bucks and a punch of possible failures for nothing. Also casing any PCB in plastic was never a good idea ever ...but we tend to do it all the time ...

@joshuasisson6816 Жыл бұрын

@@MrHaggyy experience has a lot to do with it. If the engineer is unfamiliar with things, they'll be making accessory boards for everything. Also, mechanical constraints given by other departments. They'll decide a long wire is better than running a trace to a connector that can sandwich to another pcb removing the need for wires, and other similar ideas.

@ic3man5 Жыл бұрын

This video makes me feel better because even a company like Intel produces products like this when rushed. Cost and efficiency was bypassed for the launch date and I agree with that decision. They probably didn't account for the pressure AMD put on.

@NoWayNick Жыл бұрын

That teardown looked like a lot of work

@mclovin9210 Жыл бұрын

"It's the totality of the contrivancy that drives those complaints" Never change mate. In German we say "ich bin mit der Gesamtsituation unzufrieden", and your wording captures that sentiment perfectly.

@blackraen Жыл бұрын

7:26 Thanks Steve never gets old. I need a GN "Thanks Steve" shirt.

@ac3theartist225 Жыл бұрын

Definitely feels like the first version of a product. Curious what changes Battlemage will make.

@chrisdpratt Жыл бұрын

Likely none, since they've already finalized the design of that before they even sent Alchemist out for review.

@ac3theartist225 Жыл бұрын

@@chrisdpratt I don't think that's likely. I highly doubt that Steve (or any of the press) was the first to tell people at Intel about the issues re:manufacturing and thermals. They've probably known for a very long time.

@thursdaythought7201 Жыл бұрын

@@chrisdpratt They finalized the design of the cooler shroud? That makes no sense... they don't even have the full data on final power consumption at this point. You're full of shit.

@dennish9543 Жыл бұрын

Half the number of screws, twice the Powah!

@amunak_ Жыл бұрын

@@chrisdpratt They might have finalized the design of the chip itself and related stuff (like memory and power delivery) but the actual design of the boards, the PCBs, etc. should have enough time to finalize.

@awilliams1701 Жыл бұрын

You can literally see it. Thanks Steve! Thank you papa!

@josephwimerYoYoYo Жыл бұрын

Pretty well made for an entry into the market! As much as I agree with your complaints about design, I'm VERY curious what can be done with board partners, future iterations, etc. Honestly the build quality seems on par with intel MB's I've worked with. Steve OF COURSE I want to see you water cool it! Heheh.

@chrisvenning7571 Жыл бұрын

Part 2 please. I wanna see Steve put this back together. 😂

@madrazproductions5776 Жыл бұрын

You and this channel has resurrected the super nerd in me that i had sadly ran away from in my school years. Im so glad to have found this channel

@randomlyentertaining8287 Жыл бұрын

Never forget that the non-nerds need nerds to fix their expensive electronics XD

@johnjames7332 10 ай бұрын

I'm impressed, pretty good engineering there. Steve typically overshoots with his sarcasm and wisdom but that's his shtick

@japmuscle Жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve!

@ArmchairMagpie Жыл бұрын

Not to mention that many adhesives do not age well when constantly exposed to heat and are susceptible to dust as well.

@GL1TCH3D Жыл бұрын

The whole design felt like it was meant to be discarded after 2-3 years. Low cost, lots of tape and glue, hard to self-repair.

@Sentarry Жыл бұрын

@@GL1TCH3D Intel understood limited edition and it took it literally

@BigDrewski1000 Жыл бұрын

Most double sided tapes fall into that category sadly

@EM83D Жыл бұрын

Cars today are glued at many poinst. It only depends on the type/quality. Of course there is a high chance that even Intel used special, durable double sided tape, you as a user can't buy something so special so once you disassembled this card it is better to skip the backplate.

@Shendue Жыл бұрын

@@EM83D Yeah, that's why a bunch of stuff in the interiors of my car is falling apart. And that's not something that is put into an environment with components that run very hot inside.

@NextEevolution Жыл бұрын

Hearing the tape separate as the thin metal backplate bends and the plastic clatter of the led strips reminded me of a Dawid Does Tech Stuff quote: "It's like taking a blade to a kitten's face."

@MrPinguinzz Жыл бұрын

The screwless design is a reference to you never wanting to screw yourself opening it.

@bazrazin1 Жыл бұрын

looks like a final year high quality engineering project with lot's of touch ups.

@HAunderscoreVE Жыл бұрын

In this episode of ''Dissapointing Steve'', intel finds a way to make steve both dissapointed and angry.

@slaytronic Жыл бұрын

it's not his fault he is a drama queen it's just how he was born and raised

@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Жыл бұрын

@@slaytronic On the contrary he trained at many dojos and adventured around the world to hone those skills.

@ardeof Жыл бұрын

Shoutout to Steve for knowing the importance of prying at the connections via flathead (or some other device) rather than simply yanking the cable.

@fridaycaliforniaa236 Жыл бұрын

I laughed during the whole video. Thanks, steve =)

@RealStuntPanda Жыл бұрын

I was so excited to hear the Intel Arc A770 was coming out... back in 2012.

@bofast Жыл бұрын

I was not expecting load bearing tape on the fan assembly, but here we are

@Noah-lj2sg Жыл бұрын

cool table setup

@mjc0961 Жыл бұрын

That gag at the start with the giant RTX card (probably 4090) in front was great 😂

@mjc0961 Жыл бұрын

Oh my god, "thank you papa" is going to be a new meme I can't 🤣

@mrbub8980 Жыл бұрын

Well this card's going to be fun to maintenance for some people.

@charleshines8523 Жыл бұрын

It is nice they tried to keep the cost down anyhow. Graphics cards don't always need to be expensive. They DO however need to last some expected time frame!!

@snipermerc Жыл бұрын

Hey Steve, suggestion on cleaning off thermal grease. Use Charcoal Lighter Fluid, it will actually melt the thermal grease, even if hardened and doesn't leave any residue. Works far better than isopropyl. Been using it for 25 years on puter builds.

@Enakaji Жыл бұрын

Seeing just how complicated the teardown of this one was really makes me appreciate the way more servicable Design of the Gigabyte Gaming OC RX 6600 XT and PNY XLR8 3060ti on wich I did a deepclean and repaste a few weeks ago. On both you basically only had to remove the screws you could see on the Backplate to seperate the Cooler from the card and then like four to six additional screws to separate the Finstack from the Fanshroud. There really is no need to overcomplicate it like Intel did here with their Reference design.

@JensTX Жыл бұрын

I gotta give intel credit where it's due, this is the first time I've seen Torx screws being used(structurally) in a GPU

@seculi7757 Жыл бұрын

It`s because only advanced people understand Torx.

@CSagan710 Жыл бұрын

Coming next: Gamebit screws!

@infernaldaedra Жыл бұрын

OEM GPUs would like to have a word lol

@MrMagichobo21 Жыл бұрын

@@infernaldaedra they're produced in such volume that the practical benefits of a torx type drive (longer tool life and tool can spin before it is at full depth) make it necessary, or at least worth the trouble to swap tools from whatever was already in the machines, due to economies of scale

@GamersNexus Жыл бұрын

NVIDIA and AMD both have used them for a few generations now.

@deadlift9360 Жыл бұрын

If it gets too hot it literally melts, amazing. truely a fluent designe!

@gl_tonight 11 ай бұрын

I really would recommend using the two-step articlean. It does help emulsify the thermal paste and also treat the surfaces against flash oxidization. It's a diminishing returns thing for a single tear-down but it really is a boon for repeated builds. a couple drops do it. I've serviced dozens of servers with 30ml and have like 70% left.

@st0nedpenguin Жыл бұрын

Intel may be realizing that hiring the guy that tanked AMD's GPU division to run their new GPU division could not have been the best idea ever.

@hastyscorpion Жыл бұрын

How does anything in this video have any bearing on whether or not this piece so equipment functions well as a graphics card. You aren’t taking it on hikes. .01 percent of people are taking apart their graphics cards at any point in their life. That is way beyond an enthusiast thing to do. The conclusion at the end is so strained. The thing that actually matters is the price to performance ratio. And pretending like “too many 5 cent leds” hurts that is laughable.

@st0nedpenguin Жыл бұрын

@@hastyscorpion This is the teardown video. It is not a review.

@Bill_Falsename Жыл бұрын

@@hastyscorpion Because sometimes you have to get in to clean, to redo thermal paste, to replace borked and failing fans all to avoid shelling out better than half a weeks takehome pay just to keep playing the games that keep me sane.

@chankwanting Жыл бұрын

@@Bill_Falsename You're in the .01 percent Hastyscorpion mentioned because normal users aren't going to "get in to clean, to redo thermal paste, to ...".

@trickster562 Жыл бұрын

@@chankwanting I consider myself a normal user but I had to fix an issue with my old Asus 980 Strix where the fan had to be slightly adjusted because it was making contact with the fins. It was very easy to take apart and access the fans and remove those, and since it was open I went ahead and redid the paste. It doesn't take a .01 user to want to fix an issue that is as simple as a bent fan fin. I would also assume a normal user wouldn't want to replace an entire GPU just because of an issue as simple as that.

@soupwizard Жыл бұрын

27:12 I wonder if the card physical design complications were done for a $700 card since they were aiming for the performance and mining-era prices for 3070 cards; now that prices have dropped and the A7 performance is being positioned against the 3060 the amount of extra in the design isn't appropriate for the price it's being sold at today.

@ERrnesST Жыл бұрын

Just a suggestion for a video project. Streamline the Intel Arc Design and remake it. I’m pretty sure that would be entertaining and regardless of whether it’s just in design stage or if you follow through with finishing it we would definitely watch lol

@christiankrueger8048 Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@riven4121 Жыл бұрын

I would pay good money for a Steve uncensored video where he just goes off.

@nommindymple6241 Жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, you took apart one of their NUCs a while back and were really impressed with how good and intelligent the build was. I guess they didn't carry that process over to their GPUs. You'd think that a company trying to break into a well-established market dominated by another player (or two) would pay attention to best practices and things Steve has said in the past (Thanks, Steve!). Also, is there any reason to re-install that thin, aluminum plate you took off first? The card actually looks better without it and the open air ought to drop the temperature a bit.

@eclipsegst9419 Жыл бұрын

To be fair, these choices don't affect most consumers, who will never even repaste their card, and they had to cut costs when they realized they were competing with the 3060 not the 3070 I'm sure.

@Junya01 Жыл бұрын

@@eclipsegst9419 you're right. As a budget gamer looking to build my first PC soon with an Rx 6600, this Intel GPU may very well be a viable upgrade path for me, we'll have to see down the line

@eclipsegst9419 Жыл бұрын

@@Junya01 it's not much faster than the 6600, I would get one or the other. I myself am trying to debate between 6600xt and a770. I'm curious to see what kind of performance gains the first few driver updates bring. But, 6700xt is getting cheaper by the day too. I would love to help keep a 3rd competitor in the market though.

@KainYusanagi Жыл бұрын

Re: the plate, to prevent dust buildup maybe?

@Overloaded45 Жыл бұрын

for all we know the teams that worked on their NUCs are different and might not have anything to do with the ARC GPU teams. Its like that most of the time on these big companies.

@nov2263 Жыл бұрын

Had this card for 4 months now, and It performs VERY well. The only thing is that they've focused so much on DX12 that older games (some I must say as I've played DX11 & DX10 (and even games like GTA:SA) games that work perfectly good) might not perform very well, but then again I don't play much of these. The memory size is very nice to have, games do utilize it even if it doesn't max out on cards with less memory on the same settings, which speeds up rendering alot and gives more FPS. Never had thermal issues, and never planned on taking it apart.

@mattd1188 Жыл бұрын

55.5 screws is still 20 less than it takes to hold down the ROG laptop keyboards.

@flyingrichie Жыл бұрын

Please never stop the quick cuts to "Thanks Steve"

@thecomfyshirt Жыл бұрын

I’ve seen some truly baffling tear-downs on this channel. But this one… we’ll I wouldn’t say it takes the cake, but it’s certainly memorable. When I saw those custom PCBs for the LEDs… my lawd… Screwless indeed

@Dermetsu Жыл бұрын

For a channel called Gamers Nexus, I've never seen you guys discuss games. Just an interesting observation.

@xJAKEx117x Жыл бұрын

A screwless design with more screws than an entire assembled PC in some cases... Nice, thanks Intel, and thanks Steve, and thank you Gamers Nexus. Fun video as always.

@EraYaN Жыл бұрын

The threaded inserts are one of the better ways to screw things into plastic. They can handle a surprisingly large load especially the ones for injection molding.

@RealLatinGeek Жыл бұрын

Also they're serviceable. You can get away with self-tapping screws into plastic if you only plan to put the thing together once.

@mr.equity1120 Жыл бұрын

Large Load 😂

@TalismanAirsoft Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video papa! Also something worth mentioning... The RMA team is going to have ptsd dreams about tape and jst headers. Repair gate keeping via poor design accessibility is stupid on so many levels.

@caramelldansen2204 Жыл бұрын

That's the _workers'_ problem. As long as shareholders are happy, anything goes!

@GamerErman2001 Жыл бұрын

@@caramelldansen2204 Workers: Hey this design is pretty bad can you change it before production? Shareholders: Oh my! It needs more RGBs! Add this now!

@waade395 Жыл бұрын

For those that want to find the papa reference, it's at 9:30 in the intel keynote. And it's really weird

@angrymokyuu9475 Жыл бұрын

You're assuming they'll attempt repairs. This looks like the sort of thing where any replacements go into the bin. Internal repairability will probably be a concern only when designing the next gen if there's more failures than anticiptated.

@chrisliddiard725 Жыл бұрын

That nudge "Thank you pappa" - shows how well they understand their market. Intel's idea is that fathers buy GPUs for their Sons. When the truth is those sons and daughters buy GPUs for themselves.

@Sharkie1717 Жыл бұрын

Steve: "You see this thing?" Camera Focus: Aight. Im'ma head out.

@hellfire92837 Жыл бұрын

The whole cooler assembly looks like a nightmare, but the pcb seems standard. AIB partners should be capable to make better coolers that make mainteinance easy. Thank you Steve!

@aeueeaia Жыл бұрын

1. love the hidden Intel card getting picked up from behind the 4090 2. nice desk top!!! Is that underlit glass? Love that

@TheNiteNinja19 Жыл бұрын

Repasting one of these in a year or two are going to be an absolute nightmare

@Umbator Жыл бұрын

I couldn't help but notice just how much you could pull that card apart without having to touch that "seal" sticker on the frame

@o0Hotiron0o Жыл бұрын

Thank you ;)

@ericconnor8419 Жыл бұрын

What we want: Good thermal management, easy access, good build quality. What we get: 90 programmable lightbulbs

@CommandLineVulpine Жыл бұрын

I mean this is proof EVGA and Intel would really be a heavy hitter combo

@R-Tech_Gaming Жыл бұрын

Seriously, they need help from a brand like EVGA in the worst way. They'd practically solve 90% of those card construction problems in a heartbeat.

@madarab Жыл бұрын

furry detected, opinion discarded.

@RahatAzim998 Жыл бұрын

EVGA can't make a bad card great. This card can't even run many pre dx12 titles at all. Only intel can fix that.

@CommandLineVulpine Жыл бұрын

@@madarab hating furries went out of style in like 2011, you're just embarrassing yourself

@fineline2212 Жыл бұрын

@@madarab ??? Do people really get this offended over a profile pic nowadays? Jesus christ the modern internet is a cesspool.

@TehButterflyEffect Жыл бұрын

I've been seriously considering picking one of these up. They have great bang-for-the-buck and I'm down with being an early adopter. Heck I bought a 12th gen system before a lot were on the market. I play a lot of older games though, and I've not seen any testing yet for older games. If it performs similar to my GTX 1060 in older games, yet blows it out of the water in DX12 games, I'd be pretty happy for $350... Since that's what I spent on the 1060 to begin with. GPU prices are stupid now.

@Neuttah Жыл бұрын

Steve taking a shot for every new layer of screws, unnecesry, poor or shady design feature during a GPU disassembly sounds like it would make for a fun video. Also deadly, in this particular case. 😬

@JayzBeerz Жыл бұрын

I appreciate your hard work and lack of sleep to get these videos out. Best of luck to the entire team.

@halrichard1969 Жыл бұрын

Intel could surely benefit from a board partner for at least or one or two generations until their own design team really understands Video Card Efficiency, A to Z. Maybe they could even actually HIRE AWAY a few Video Card Engineers from EVGA at this point or at least contract a few of them for a year or two. THANK YOU STEVE. 😉

@Kona_Shred Жыл бұрын

It's interesting that acer is making a version of this card. Not sure if they have ever made a consumer sku gpu before.

@UnsungAces Жыл бұрын

@@Kona_Shred nope, but ASRock is pretty new to the Radeon market too and their cards are ok

@bobcorn69 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve.

@tyswid Жыл бұрын

I like the white table, especially with the dark card. Any plans for a "light mode" modmat, maybe not for full scale production but at least as a KZfaq piece

@GamersNexus Жыл бұрын

It's actually an entire lightbox! Haha, it illuminates and has RGB and everything. We do have ideas for future modmats!

@BBWahoo Жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus I'd love to draw and fix up my sketches on that light box! Looks beautiful, just like you papa ❤