Intel Says Not to Say "LGA1851" or "Z890" | MSI vs. ASUS Features & X870E Boards

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MSI is showing off Z890 & X870E motherboards at #Computex 2024 -- and Intel is a control freak, trying to prevent anyone from knowing that its next socket is "LGA18XX" (it's 1851) - but even 18XX has been known for literal years now, and yet Intel thinks it can put that genie back in the bottle. Bizarre Intel control behaviors aside, MSI has new motherboards competing with ASUS on ease-of-installation features, a new case with some unique fans, and an AIO with offset mounting for Intel's upcoming Arrow Lake CPUs.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Stupid Intel Games, Stupid Intel Prizes
01:56 - New Z890 & X870 Motherboards
05:28 - PCIe Quick Release & ASUS' Patent
08:35 - CAMM RAM
11:58 - Cooler with Hotspot Movement
13:34 - Velox 300R Airflow Case
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@GamersNexus 19 күн бұрын

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@ShefferTube 19 күн бұрын

I just watched the intro and man, you need to be the host of comedy central's roasts!

@GamersNexus 19 күн бұрын

@@michaelgriffin3230 This information is already public and has been since 2022.

@ventzp2133 19 күн бұрын

@@michaelgriffin3230 Did you watch the video? At all?

@stanisawszczypua9076 19 күн бұрын

Are those CAMM modules dual channel?

@lucimon97 19 күн бұрын

@@stanisawszczypua9076if a thing is dual channel or not is not determined by the memory module but by the controller inside the cpu. If the cpu can do dual channel, so can the ram

@BillyONeal 19 күн бұрын

Imagine if Intel put half as much effort into making their partners follow a power delivery spec as they put into making them not say the clearly labelled thing

@shaneeslick 19 күн бұрын

Yeah that was my thought when Steve said "intel's controlling nature has new highs"

@DigitalJedi 19 күн бұрын

Rumors around Hillsboro are that they're tightening the leash a bit more for this socket. ARL should need less power than RPL/ADL given the massive node jump as well. I remember seeing some leaks of 177W and 212W ratings instead of 253W, but I have no idea if those are final.

@brugj03 19 күн бұрын

Intel has its priorities completely wrong, but we have AMD luckily.

@adamtajhassam9188 19 күн бұрын

Soon as Intel says u cant say shit its time to abandoned ship

@michaelcarson8375 19 күн бұрын

Intel baseline profiles have been around for YEARS. Back in the day Intel made their own board that were baseline ONLY, and nobody bought them. If you only want baseline in today's world go buy supermicro boards, nobody makes a more stable board. when Intel first allowed overclocking most boards HAD baseline default to AUTO and everything was fine, but competition got out of control and finally hit the wall.

@ZeroHourProductions407 19 күн бұрын

"You can _literally_ *see it!"* -- Intel "You just cannot _say it."_ -- Also intel, probably.

@dakoderii4221 18 күн бұрын

Sounds a lot like our government. You can see the insanity going on but you better not say anything about it.

@Henrik_Holst 18 күн бұрын

Schrödingers socket

@benjaminoechsli1941 18 күн бұрын

"For your eyes only" means "see, don't say"

@DigoTP_ 18 сағат бұрын

What the eyes don't see, the heart doesn't feel

@No__47 19 күн бұрын

"The rules are stupid and I rejected them." Gonna need a shirt on your merch store with that on it.

@IngwiePhoenix 18 күн бұрын

Would buy. xD

@xtreamerpt7775 18 күн бұрын

True

@cateatingchezburger4267 18 күн бұрын

Reminds me of the i reject your reality and substitute my own.

@Aech1898 18 күн бұрын

That would be such an amazing slogan on all kinds of merch, it'd be a must-buy even for me.

@thetg2117 18 күн бұрын

@@IngwiePhoenix me too

@BRUXXUS 19 күн бұрын

They can afford the R&D, Design, Manufacturing and Assembly of a totally custom PCIe quick release latch but still skimping on a $0.06 Segment display?!

@profosist 19 күн бұрын

Oddly despite ASUS developed it, seemed to be on few boards.

@1pcfred 19 күн бұрын

You do realize that the display needs to be wired in, don't you?

@darklordzqwerty 19 күн бұрын

Yeah it takes a cad engineer 3 minutes to do that. The schematic for this is hilariously simple so idk what's your point. @@1pcfred

@GewelReal 19 күн бұрын

every day I'm glad my MSI board has at least the LEDs

@profosist 19 күн бұрын

@@GewelReal I miss EVGA with the dual removable BIOS chips but yeah we need more than beep boops! (and they dont even ship the speaker)

@TheAthens619 19 күн бұрын

Asus: We're becoming unlikeable Intel: Hold my socket

@DaKrawnik 19 күн бұрын

meh. nothing end users have to worry about. we can call it 1800 and Z890 all we want if that's what they are.

@infernaldaedra 19 күн бұрын

Asus was on top too long. Got complacent. Same thing happened to Intel.

@kotorweed3925 19 күн бұрын

I know you're just trying to be funny but ASUS is being straight up anti-consumer whereas this is just stupid marketing lol. Nobody outside of reviewers cares whether or not they can call the socket 18xx or 1851.

@infernaldaedra 19 күн бұрын

@@kotorweed3925 bro how do I break it to you but Intel has a longer history of being anti consumer than ASUS.

@1pcfred 19 күн бұрын

I like Intel and Asus.

@soupwizard 19 күн бұрын

0:43 Back to you Steve "The rules are stupid and I rejected them!" Thanks Steve /Intel

@drkskwlkr 19 күн бұрын

Put this on the next GN t-shirt!

@danielekirylo 19 күн бұрын

That is a shirt I would definitely buy.

@kozlovskyi 19 күн бұрын

Sign me in

@ZeroGravitas187 19 күн бұрын

The data is not accurate, but it is correct! Back to you Steve!

@EradicationGod 18 күн бұрын

Hilarious

@richardharris5428 19 күн бұрын

Are you stopping by the ASUS booth? That should be interesting.

@shaneeslick 19 күн бұрын

Yeah, Too bad Steve's ROG Ally didn't fit in his bag to confront A SUS with it at Head Office regarding the Warranty SCAM

@GamersNexus 19 күн бұрын

Yes

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns 18 күн бұрын

I wonder if Gamer Nexus will confront Asus when he stops by the booth.

@16vSciroccoboi 18 күн бұрын

@@AnonymousUser-ww6nswhat do you expect is going to happen? They have their entire legal, warranty, and PR team at the booth just waiting for Steve to show up? Their rep will probably just decline to comment.

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns 18 күн бұрын

@16 most likely but I don’t care because Steve already exposed ASUS. If it were I would secretly send ASUS the stink eye.

@EnderSackboy 19 күн бұрын

Intel: "our socket doesnt have a name" Steve: *i reject your reality and substitute my own*

@travelsizedlions 14 күн бұрын

More like "I reject your reality and substitute reality"

@EnderSackboy 14 күн бұрын

@@travelsizedlions so basically what I said

@RadioactiveLobster 19 күн бұрын

Intel's new socket is made by Medusa and they are doing you a favor by not letting you look at it.

@POVwithRC 19 күн бұрын

🗿

@Blade_of_Tomoe 19 күн бұрын

@@POVwithRC Finally, an appropriate use case for this emoji, as the ancient scrolls foretold.

@ANGRYWOLVERINE2060-ft2nc 19 күн бұрын

hahahaha

@treyquattro 19 күн бұрын

heh, I had that very same thought!

@arafatzahan3697 19 күн бұрын

@@POVwithRC Perfection

@POVwithRC 19 күн бұрын

Absolutely murking the PR machine lol. Become ungovernable 😁

@meepk633 19 күн бұрын

Absolutely giving Intel what they wanted by falling for the oldest trick in the book.

@Daltonisntabot 19 күн бұрын

@@meepk633Where can I find this book?

@Jmcinally94 19 күн бұрын

@@meepk633They're going to get coverage regardless and the name was already leaked a bunch of times. I don't see how this is a deliberate stunt from them? What does it achieve by "tricking" people into saying the name rather than just telling them to say it?

@LowKeyContender 19 күн бұрын

@@Daltonisntabot id love to have a bbook of all the oldest tricks myself :)

@sherm_stick 18 күн бұрын

Companies tend to push consumers around these days so channels like this are invaluable. Keep on trucking

@Pocahonkers 19 күн бұрын

Man, I didn't even know these quick-release PCIe buttons existed...and now I really want one. Gone would be the days of using a plastic ball pen in an attempt to press the 2mm of latch poking out behind the backplate in the 1km deep and 3mm wide pitch black canyon between the CPU cooler and GPU.

@JohnDavidSullivan 19 күн бұрын

this came at the right time actually, I had a pain trying to remove my 6750xt from an Asus Rog B550 the other day, had to use a long precision screw driver, made a little dent. But damn it was tough.

@dereklang4451 19 күн бұрын

Do you remove your GPU on a weekly basis?

@GeeMannn 19 күн бұрын

@@dereklang4451😂😂😂😂😂

@0pointer 18 күн бұрын

I've just ripped out the retainer clip completely before inserting the gfxcard in the slot because there was literally no way to ever get to it again with the card in place.

@RAMChYLD 18 күн бұрын

@@JohnDavidSullivan Try having an Asrock Blazing Gen5 M.2 Fan-Heatsink on the Motherboard. Then the latch becomes inaccessible short of using a long, thin plastic ruler.

@JoeStuffzAlt 19 күн бұрын

This makes me appreciate AMD naming the sockets AM3, AM4, and AM5. I looked up an Intel socket and it was LGA1wxyz. LGA1150, LGA1151, LGA 1050, LGA 1155. The newer numbers are easier though. At least AMD won't be "GASP! HOW DID YOU GUESS THE NEXT SOCKET IS AM6?"

@InnocentiusLacrimosa 19 күн бұрын

LGA 1151 is named like that because the socket has 1151 pins contacting the CPU. Same applies to all Intel sockets: socket number = number of pins.

@rodiculous9464 19 күн бұрын

Knowing them they might rename it to AI6

@arthurmoore9488 19 күн бұрын

Intel's naming makes sense, but as a technical detail not a revision number. "Land Grid Array " -> "LGA 1wxyz"

@JoeStuffzAlt 19 күн бұрын

@@InnocentiusLacrimosa Yeah, though it was an interesting era of so many 1s and 5s.

@funky7monkey0 19 күн бұрын

All of Intel's sockets have formal "names," H1/2/3/4/5 for 1156 through 1200, V/V1 for 1700/1851, R# for 2011/2066, and other letters for other socket families

@cup_of_joe 19 күн бұрын

I wonder if the spam bots are gonna get mad about Steve saying bad intel words

@GamersNexus 19 күн бұрын

That's the next evolution!

@MadmanLink 19 күн бұрын

Give it time.

@sten4982 19 күн бұрын

Its the Hasbara bots you have to worry about tbh

@Pillokun 19 күн бұрын

It is the AMD "bots" that are the loudest, has always been so.

@backupplan6058 19 күн бұрын

Found them, hey @@Pillokun given how many comments you have posted to the channel loving Intel and hating on GN and Hardware Unboxed, why are you still here?

@alejandrocalori6298 19 күн бұрын

THE MORE YOU STEVE, THE MORE YOU THANKS.

@dkman123 19 күн бұрын

Thanks Steve! Live long, and buy more.

@shaneeslick 19 күн бұрын

😂 🥰

@hyperix-dead 19 күн бұрын

the more steve the more thanks

@waifuhunter9709 19 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂 gesus i burst out laughing

@ZeroGravitas187 19 күн бұрын

@@dkman123 Shaka when your LGA-(CENSORED)

@CptJistuce 19 күн бұрын

"But the rules are stupid and I rejected them." I salute you, Steve.

@Sgt_SealCluber 19 күн бұрын

How much you wanna bet it looks exactly like the 2011 socket tabs, just vertical instead of horizontal.

@jeffreypaul9428 19 күн бұрын

Intel - a new socket every 2 CPUs.

@Elomentoplayz 19 күн бұрын

that was normal. Just AMD actually started committing to their boards recently.

@anatropous5112 19 күн бұрын

@@Elomentoplayz What do you mean recently? I thought they committed since AM4 in 2016?

@TheGuyWhoDidUrM0M 19 күн бұрын

@@anatropous5112 and i went ballz deep on ryzen in march 2017 and still have that same board to this day.

@scudsturm1 19 күн бұрын

well we had socket 2011 a few years ago, we are not far away from using it again if Intel changes the socket again, congratz on those who still have their 6800k cpu

@bosstowndynamics5488 19 күн бұрын

@@JS-oh2dpAM3 still lasted longer than a typical Intel socket IIRC and AM2 was fairly long lived too, even if they weren't AM4 levels of long lived

@limppeacesign 19 күн бұрын

the camm2 modules would probably also eliminate cooler clearances being an issue. really cool!

@POVwithRC 19 күн бұрын

This was my first thought. Kinda not mad.

@MiIIiIIion 19 күн бұрын

Yeah, camm should definitely at least replace so-dimm in the market.

@ChrisWijtmans 19 күн бұрын

should also make it easier to water cool the ram. Plus if one ram stick dies the other one becomes useless anyway. Also the quad socket on dual channel systems was bad anyway because of timing and topology issues. It solves many problems. I found DDR5 to be the uglies feature of a mobo as well. now we can cover and RGB it and water cool it as well. I just wish mobos would use 12VO and get rid of the onboard sata in favour of m.2 (you can buy a sata m.2 if you need sata).

@FERTUHG 19 күн бұрын

Are they the same price?

@malvinchau2056 19 күн бұрын

@@ChrisWijtmanspeople want sata because of how many ports you get with it (which allows for more storage). The argument for getting a sata m.2 doesn't make sense at all. 12VO also only just recently came out, don't expect it to come to every single motherboard when the ATX12VO standard is only 4 years old. Also, not everyone who uses a computer is going to be gaming on it. The reason why there are 4 dimms is because of it's use case in much more memory intensive applications. MOBO manufacturers want to cater to both personal and professional use cases. Don't expect everything in mobos to be usable by normal consumers.

@transcendtient 19 күн бұрын

Why did it take 20 years to get a better latch mechanism for PCI? Seriously....

@eric.is.online 19 күн бұрын

Patents

@HarmonyEdge 19 күн бұрын

I'd say they should've started on the tech like 10 years ago or earlier, when we started seeing gpu's with 3 fans.

@Prizm44 17 күн бұрын

@@eric.is.online- A patent for one design doesn't mean you can't create an alternative design that's sufficiently different but functions just as well.

@WigneyR 19 күн бұрын

The GPU release buttons are pretty cool but my desk chopstick is cheaper and works beautifully 😂

@lyianx 19 күн бұрын

..and you don't have to pay a licensing fee to use them 😋

@didamnesia3575 18 күн бұрын

Those release buttons could be difficult to get to, and the panel is so large you have to remove everything in front of it first

@thelegendaryklobb2879 18 күн бұрын

@@didamnesia3575 Springs will corrode and get stuck with time. Manual release with a chopstick/long poky thing will always be necessary.

@5467nick 17 күн бұрын

@@thelegendaryklobb2879 In a place like Florida near a beach, yeah that can be a big issue for any bare non-stainless steel. In most places, at least in the USA, I don't see corrosion of the spring being an issue. Spring steel isn't very prone to deep corrosion in reasonable temperature and humidity levels, most hardened steels aren't. Even then, it can be galvanized and/or greased to pretty much eliminate that issue.

@Elomentoplayz 19 күн бұрын

The most normal naming scheme intel has had recently is naming their GPUs after Airplanes.

@benjaminlynch9958 19 күн бұрын

Are the GPU’s as reliable as Boeing airplanes? Asking for a friend…

@scudsturm1 19 күн бұрын

intel arc a580 ORC

@SenileOtaku 19 күн бұрын

Should be OK if they don't call their new product the "737 Max".

@arthurmoore9488 19 күн бұрын

@@SenileOtaku The problem is Boeing's controls and corner cutting. They just happen to be making a bunch of 737 Max planes, so that's where we're seeing it. Not sure if you remember when those crashes were happening from an undocumented software "feature." It was also around the same time they lost a space capsule because a software bug.

@filipbitala2624 19 күн бұрын

@@SenileOtakujust waiting for the Intel Arc M370

@tahuluke6133 19 күн бұрын

"Patent protected ease of installation features, that's the state of the motherboard industry." - GN I hate it here.

@kicapanmanis1060 19 күн бұрын

The other manufacturers should have patented it first then......they had decades to do it for a "simple" idea right?

@fus132 18 күн бұрын

@@kicapanmanis1060 How about fuck the patents instead?

@SnakebitSTI 18 күн бұрын

The fact that anything, anything at all on the inside of a PC case being redesigned for convenience is news is telling.

@earthtaurus5515 18 күн бұрын

@@fus132 Motherboard OEMs can license the patents for a small nominal sum or for free. You should look up F.R.A.N.D licensing (stands for Fair, Reasonable And Non-discriminatory) where patents are licensed by consortium or standardisation board.

@gemelwalters2942 4 күн бұрын

@@fus132 it's not the patent that's the problem though. These companies could have simply paid to use the design or come up with one of their own. That's just greed.

@AndrewFremantle 19 күн бұрын

4:00 - and the CAMM memory module Congratulations. You just got me to sit straight up in my chair!

@exscape 19 күн бұрын

OR "CAMMMM" for short.

@jaydub8576 19 күн бұрын

Only using 1 module should be nice. DDR always needed 2 sticks to run in dual channel. I've still got old pairs of ddr2, ddr3 and ddr4.

@EmptyZoo393 18 күн бұрын

I'd be curious what it does to mini-itx boards. I know LPDDRx has been an option on those for ages, but I'm excited to see what low profile coolers could be made for that market without the need to clear as tall a ram module.

@zodwraith5745 19 күн бұрын

I'm sure there's an embargo on the socket and chipset models, but you still have to ask "why?" unless they actually ARE changing from the numbering they've followed for several years now. If not, then it just seems like a pointless thing to place an embargo on. It's just weird corporate bullshit where some marketing exec doesn't want anyone to step on his toes for his "big announcement" he's been working on all year.

@fireflyg341 19 күн бұрын

Not like they said the next lake series anyways yesterday LIVE or anything...

@Naga2x 19 күн бұрын

I see another advantage to CAMM: no more issues with coolers. They could go lower than they're right now and maintaining the same tower height as they could cut the height they add for clearing RAM.

@blackrifle6736 18 күн бұрын

*Precisely the best use-case argument for design implementation. Wet plates and pumps are added expense and failure points, not always the best answer.*

@meecrob500 19 күн бұрын

I know it was just a small comment, but as an engineer who is also camera shy, I aprciate Steve letting the guy give him the skinny and then relaying it.

@Ex14 19 күн бұрын

Was it really "giving him the skinny" if he has to mention it in the video 🤔

@righteousone8454 19 күн бұрын

LOL, Steve. This is about as Gamers Nexus as you can get at the intro I am surprised they didn't ban you permanently from all pressers

@thedave1771 18 күн бұрын

Sure. But would it help, or would it just remove whatever bit of leash they have?

@BigTylt 18 күн бұрын

Yeah, turning Steve into a persona non grata isn't gonna work out that well.

@thedave1771 18 күн бұрын

@@BigTylt for them. It would be fun to watch.

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns 18 күн бұрын

I will side with Gamer Nexus no matter what. If Intel bans him, I will no longer consider Intel.

@seans878 18 күн бұрын

Loved the news splash pop-ups covering your face as you emphasize how we will never possibly know the names of the next generation of products. Kudos to your editor! Though, it would be funny if Intel pulled a last second gotcha marketing trick like a Windows 9 disappearing act.

@Qalibrated 18 күн бұрын

The CAMM2 modules look really interesting. Could be an interesting thing in the future.

@JeckNoTree 19 күн бұрын

The quickrelease on the PCIEx16 sloat and M.2 thing looks cool, I like it.

@adamd316 18 күн бұрын

Steve, you've got one of the best sarcastic deliveries I've ever heard - delivery and timing...

@HolyHatred87 19 күн бұрын

The rules are stupid! Definitely a mystery!

@pietraszko100 19 күн бұрын

New socket looks very securly protected with that plexi. One of the screws got missing in between shots. BTW Steve, which pocket scerwdriver world you recommend buying? 😅

@shaneeslick 19 күн бұрын

😂

@blackasthesky 19 күн бұрын

I didn't think we'd see CAMM in desktop so soon. I really thought it would only come to laptops in the foreseeable future.

@Blade_of_Tomoe 19 күн бұрын

I'm no engineer but those new mechanisms look like they will break if used excessively.

@chatboss000 19 күн бұрын

Tbh by the time you 'excessively use" the pcie release you should be worrying about your pcie slot and hardware which also isn't rated for excessive removals and insertions.

@M340B58 19 күн бұрын

I assume many users will install their GPU and leave it until they want to do a full clean of their system. These boards are new and will last several CPU generations, and GPU generations are typically every 2 years now. They'll be okay and shouldn't fail after 10-20 uses.

@SenileOtaku 19 күн бұрын

They're meant to.

@Blade_of_Tomoe 19 күн бұрын

@@chatboss000 That's so bullshit I question your humanity lol. If that were the case reviewers would have to constantly buy new hardware because they insert/remove hardware from pcie slots all the time.

@Gatorade69 19 күн бұрын

You bring up a good point about reviewers but let's be honest, the average home user is not a reviewer. The only times I have removed my GPU in the last 4 years is twice and once was when I was upgrading the motherboard.

@AvreeL89 19 күн бұрын

0:50 never gets old “BUT WAIT…THERE’S MORE” 🤪

@n00blike 19 күн бұрын

That fan looks like something Major Hardware tested on his user made fan videos.

@ShyZShark 19 күн бұрын

These intros are great! At this point I almost wonder if Steve is asking someone to make another, more updated "Gamers Nexus out of context" video.

@Lollllllz 19 күн бұрын

it would be hilarious if someone can make 18xx cpus work in LGA1700 boards.

@fayne1 19 күн бұрын

This will soon happen. There is a big russian Community that flashes mainboards to use Xeons and X Chipset CPUs on normal B65 or H61 Boards

@InnocentiusLacrimosa 19 күн бұрын

Lga 1700 has 1700 pins contacting CPU (doh). LGA 18xx will have 1800+ pins passing power and information between CPU and motherboard. So no, it will not happen. There was a moment between 7th and 8th gen when both gens used LGA 1151 and the modders could hack BIOSes and cover some contact points in CPUs to make old boards accept newer gen CPUs. That was Intel's missed moment to extend support of that socket for consumers.

@Riyozsu 19 күн бұрын

I guess the modders could physically remove the 1700 chipset and add 1851 chipset like a surgery.

@Bourinos02 19 күн бұрын

@@InnocentiusLacrimosa Oh but Intel never intended to extend socket support for consumers... That's their entire point!

@InnocentiusLacrimosa 19 күн бұрын

@@Bourinos02 none claimed that they intended and your "entire point" is very different from the OP post.

@snowboard_coach 19 күн бұрын

"I'll sleep when I'm dead" - Steve probably

@GarGhuul 19 күн бұрын

Honestly, that PCI quick release would have been useful a few months back trying to get a GPU out with a CPU cooler partly blocking access. Very useful added value.

@aggies11 18 күн бұрын

When the screenshots finally covered steve's face, I had to giggle, and then when they kept going and blotted out the almost entire screen, it was a full on laugh out loud moment

@alanmoore78 19 күн бұрын

Whoa Black Betty, CAMM is RAM?

@aminy23 19 күн бұрын

Many laptops had soldered on RAM, and CAMM was designed as a newer form-factor so laptops didn't need to have RAM soldered on. Being a newer form factor, CAMM actually ends up having higher performance than conventional DIMMs. So CAMM is possibly a future successor to DIMMs. It's flat so it works in thin and light laptops.

@TrebleSketch 19 күн бұрын

@@aminy23would make for an awesome compact build too!

@kindadim 19 күн бұрын

would be incredible on an itx build because it would give much more real estate to CPU fin stacks or water-cooling features like a pump

@wille84fin 19 күн бұрын

@@kindadimThis 100%

@ValentineC137 19 күн бұрын

I just want to say that this was an excellent joke

@Vertilgung 19 күн бұрын

Intel must be really loved by motherboard producers.

@GamersNexus 19 күн бұрын

They definitely seem to be frustrated.

@ChrisWijtmans 19 күн бұрын

i want 12VO motherboards.

@gregandark8571 19 күн бұрын

@@ChrisWijtmans why?

@ChrisWijtmans 19 күн бұрын

@@gregandark8571 power savings and smaller connector. Plus the ability to turn off mobo features you a re not using, like a sata controller.

@justanothermonkey 19 күн бұрын

I just love how he calls out corporate bullshit.

@Chris-ji8jw 19 күн бұрын

Thank you Crew and Steve, this is awesome 👍🏻🔥

@ZinoAmare 19 күн бұрын

Msi quick release on m2 cover and gpu is nice. These things are nice to have

@RetroNook 19 күн бұрын

What did the janitor say when he hopped out of the closet? Supplies!!

@StrikeWarlock 19 күн бұрын

This just doesn't work well here as it did in UHF.

@hamitserinken9842 19 күн бұрын

After watching just the intro…. Steve, you already made my day.😂

@mrtron7837 19 күн бұрын

It’s great to see PC venders addressing ease of installation. However, one thing they need to address is those tiny case front io pin connectors. If they turn all those pin connectors into a single plug that would be great.

@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele 19 күн бұрын

It's a standard (I think it's part of ATX design), it must be agreed a new one.

@VADemon 19 күн бұрын

There's a single plug. It plugs on top of individual pins. You plug all single pins outside the mobo in your hands and then put that middle plug as one onto your motherboard. It comes with motherboards, unless you found the cheapest one you could get the hands on.

@No-mq5lw 17 күн бұрын

Only way I see those headers going, is if they started using IC logic to cut the total pin count down. Only problem is that completely removes the ability for you to use a screwdriver to turn on the motherboard, and could make motherboard vendors to start supplying PCBs adapting the normal headers to the new standard to cover people upgrading and using their old case. I also can't see 3rd parties proposing such a change and having it be adopted, as I believe that only Intel really has the power to make such a thing happen.

@xmeo30 19 күн бұрын

"Aerocool" god! bringing back memories when budget cool/weird looking PC cases are from aerocool,

@shaneeslick 19 күн бұрын

😁I have the Red/Gold (IronMan) XPREDATOR for my Bedroom Media Centre

@xmeo30 19 күн бұрын

@@shaneeslick i have the strike X an open case that looks like a spider or something hahaha, dust love that case...

@shaneeslick 19 күн бұрын

@@xmeo30 🤔That's the Testbench type one isn't it? I wanted one of those but very expensive down here in Australia for what it was, like the new laser cut Streacom alloy ones which are $230AUD, I made my Test bench out of an old DELL Case & Dremel 🖥🪓😁

@xmeo30 19 күн бұрын

@@shaneeslick yeah, i just thought it was a cool case at that time.. at that time AIO was like a new tech and cost a lot of $$$$, everything in my system is aircooled thats why i thought that case would cool all my components,

@watersauce3998 19 күн бұрын

I would love if Intel didn't sell me a defective I9 13900k on release day for a new build then spend a year off and on troubleshooting while using a PC that borderline didn't work until I spent money to have Micro Center diagnose a bad CPU then spend A MONTH AND A HALF to get it warrantied and a new one sent to me.

@andredeklerk1069 19 күн бұрын

Lemon parts happen, and that sounds more like a combination of you leaving it late and Micro Center sleeping on it than anything Intel did.

@infernaldaedra 19 күн бұрын

You bought it from Intel it microcenter lmao

@marioStortuga 19 күн бұрын

If you had microcenter warranty they would of just instantly replaced after finding it defective. I always get it cause of that. I had 3 issues in the past all was under their warranty I walked out the same day with a replacement.

@infernaldaedra 19 күн бұрын

@@marioStortuga F to doubt you had 3 defective cpus

@armani22 19 күн бұрын

If you had to have Micro Center Diagnose your bad CPU Its time to go pre-built lol SMH

@CesarinPillinGaming 19 күн бұрын

unless they bring back the "memory push down" modules that were the rage back in the late 90's and early 2000's. Where you used to push the memory into slots for video cards and stuff. Can you imagine doing these on the CAMs modules themselves?

@Mamiya645 19 күн бұрын

Individual ICs for memory upgrades were pretty neat but look up SIPP RAM if you want the real wait-what blast from the past. In some alternate dimension it became a hit, I'm sure.

@thevoid6756 19 күн бұрын

i am a little sad that the project zero is still the only board with backfacing connectors. I was hoping manufacturers would expand on that, now that more cases support it.

@SVT_LIGHTNING 19 күн бұрын

The tomahawk at 11:45 caught my eye with the 8 pin power connector at the bottom of the board. My evga z170 had something similar for extra power to the pcie slots for sli. And being sli is dead I wonder what its for. And they are adding 3 x16 pcie slots again. My z790 tomahawk only has 2.

@abhineetsingh12 18 күн бұрын

Asus: we are becoming unlikable lately , we wonder why is that?

@ZinoAmare 19 күн бұрын

Also on can I think it looks cool to have a plate covering it makes it very neat

@hackerregion 18 күн бұрын

I appreciate everything you do. Im glad that you call these big companies out and address them. Its hard for us as consumers to shed light on problems we experience. We need more people like you and your team. Alot of these big companies think they can cheap their way out and sell defective product or product that makes us buy more.

@HELLCAT.28 19 күн бұрын

CAMM2 in desktop? No, thanks.

@philg8556 19 күн бұрын

Not a fan of that quick release with springs. I'm not looking forward to when the dust or dirt makes the mechanisms fail and the cards are essentially stuck on the boards.

@tsjeriAu 19 күн бұрын

Can't you still press the tab manually just as we always have?

@LiLBitsDK 19 күн бұрын

@@tsjeriAu there wasn't a "tab" if you looked closer

@katzicael 19 күн бұрын

13:55 I have a Xiaomi desk fan that has a rotor design like that, two very different patterns rather than just the usual large fan blades. It's very quiet and moves a F-ton of air.

@darreno1450 19 күн бұрын

Very cool stuff from MSI. Nice to see these innovations. The ASUS GPU quick release was a welcomed feature on the ROG boards.

@GLHerzberg 19 күн бұрын

LOL Steve, I stand up and applaud your blistering sarcasm.

@shaneeslick 19 күн бұрын

Me too 😁👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

@Maxi86inAction 18 күн бұрын

Steve roasting companies has got to be the highlight of CES 😄

@hwi7114 18 күн бұрын

CAM will be awesome for CPU cooler clearance as well.

@vomitkermit3446 19 күн бұрын

With the cam modules, do you retain dual channel/quad channel?

@TFTsubzero 19 күн бұрын

1:02 yeah INTERNET

@davidburk4546 19 күн бұрын

1:04 so what’s the name of the new chipset? Any ideas?

@LiLBitsDK 19 күн бұрын

Intel AI Z890

@mariusx6225 18 күн бұрын

Best stand up comedy in a while , back to you Steve :)

@Seromontis 18 күн бұрын

That lock mechanism is really nice for gpus! Very happy to see that!

@ggoddkkiller1342 19 күн бұрын

Asus still somehow surprises me about how low they can go..

@WillFuI 19 күн бұрын

Oo I like thst m.2 design. I hope msi make that a kit we can buy to add to other stuff. Idk what a reasonable price would be

@JoeStuffzAlt 19 күн бұрын

Agreed. M.2 screws are too easy to lose.

@Gatorade69 19 күн бұрын

I hate them. I have huge hands/fingers and those small m.2 screws are the bane of my existence.

@samehedi 19 күн бұрын

can we have a deep dive on the camm modules? i'd like me some faster memory please

@General_M 19 күн бұрын

2:35 aw man I want that. Since I have a DH15 in my computer, I have to use a screwdriver to press on the veeeery small amount of the PCIe release that is visible to get my 4080FE out of the slot. Not that I need to take it out often, but it would still be nice to have for when I'd need it.

@hotaru25189 19 күн бұрын

Intel never accepted they arent the top dog in cpu market anymore and still think they are able to say/do anything and its sad.

@Nighthearted 19 күн бұрын

Maaan, Steve and the team are on FIRE with these intros haha I'm loving it, keep 'em coming!!!

@ballinbenny0128 19 күн бұрын

That cam feature is very interesting

@Punisher9419 19 күн бұрын

I do like those motherboard features although once you install this stuff it's mostly in there for the next 10+ years. CAMM2 is pretty cool as well.

@spraynpray3605 19 күн бұрын

😂😂😂I love how he just smoothly threw in 'they got a case'then right on to the next thing fucking dying here😂😂😂😂😂

@zervox8427 19 күн бұрын

I like CAMM, it would be interesting to see CPU|MB|CAMM on the other side of the motherboard, most cases I've dealt with for a long time now have very large opening for mounting a new cooler, but it would actually be kinda neat to just access the back and mount multiple CAMM modules that way, if you need to mount a new cooler bracket, well, you'd have to unscrew the CAMMs first potentially depending on the layout, but even with custom water cooling or AIOs I've not had to change the backplate in a long time, less so with the aircoolers. and if you are swapping memory you no longer have to remove the aircooler or tubing|pipes etc and for the ones who want to watercool memory for some reason, they will find a way. :P

@No-mq5lw 18 күн бұрын

Would be interesting to see backplates essentially act as a cooler mount, heatsink, and CAMM retention in one

@alexskywalker888 17 күн бұрын

Isn't the interposer on CAMM2 supposed to be replaceable?

@tatersncorn 18 күн бұрын

The plastic front does look restrictive. But the mesh is definitely protected. If you need the protection i could definitely see how that would be appreciated

@severgun 19 күн бұрын

why there is 20 screws for CAMM on MB with quick release latches?

@kerberos623 19 күн бұрын

Guessing all those tiny pins needs better alignment and pushforce agains the socket then quick release can handle.

@knighthood_tech 19 күн бұрын

It is truly amazing, that you can still patent a button as if nobody has ever thought of one before 😂

@Geralt26 18 күн бұрын

I like these installation ideas with this button etc. It was always pain in the ass when you have f.e. missive cooler :). Also there is usualy problem with mounting new SSD in such situations.

@jasonjenkins-ferris 18 күн бұрын

Hey Steve, doubt you'll ever see this, but as someone that is disabled with nerve damage in my hands, "small details" regarding ease of installation of components are actually HUGE to me.

@ImBarryScottCSS 19 күн бұрын

Intel: Hi Steve! Please remember when you are covering our products; Freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.

@TheJuggtron 19 күн бұрын

Pizza is a vegetable

@Real_MisterSir 19 күн бұрын

@@TheJuggtron Pizza is just a meal where the plate is edible too

@telotawa 19 күн бұрын

gotta love patents holding back industry innovation 20 years at a time for each new feature

@user-dz1vq6lr7u 18 күн бұрын

My Aorus X670E Master has quick release for the main X16 socket plus quick release of MVNE m.2.

@ForzaE2 19 күн бұрын

Steve, I know you don't usually do it but Can we get a little tutorial video about releasing GPU on normal mobas? My finger never reach it to the release button and I always brake it when I try to use a tool. Pretty please.

@leifmessinger 19 күн бұрын

@MajorHardware 13:40 Interesting fan. Season 7 should be air at a distance.

@CarbonPanther 19 күн бұрын

Didn't he actually feature a design just like this before?

@emsicz 19 күн бұрын

All the MSI drama and look at them now, Steve is in their office again. I guess he was right, even if you release negative reviews they won’t resist the urge to gain coverage and will work with you again.

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns 18 күн бұрын

I honestly think MSI is decent and they improved. However Asrock still wins regarding RMA support and products. But honestly you can’t go wrong with MSI or Asrock

@blackrifle6736 18 күн бұрын

*This is as old as the PR trade: "I don't care what you say about me, just be sure to spell my name correctly."*

@tictechtone 18 күн бұрын

16:29, in the preview build they had the dram/CAMM RAM being hardline watter cooled, hmmm

@PAPO1990 19 күн бұрын

That M.2 tooless latch is pretty sweet, the existing rotating ones were already ok, but that is genuinely brilliant. Is it worth the extra cost it inevitably adds to the MoBo, that's on the buyer to decide, but from a design, engineering, and use standpoint, it's fantastic.

@kim_4298 19 күн бұрын

Intel changing motherboard already?

@CAL1MBO 19 күн бұрын

Yes it's been known for ages already.

@LiLBitsDK 19 күн бұрын

yes they have re-release the same CPU 3x on the LGA1700 now... it's time to rerelease a sorta new "14NM++++" chip on LGA18xx motherboard for a bit

@sauravgoswamisg 19 күн бұрын

Really stupid intel frequently change intel sockets old cpu , have no motherboard

@bigwizardenergy 19 күн бұрын

I'd love to see some tests on those "tornado fans" or whatever they were called. I'm not particularly interested in the case, but it would be fun to see if the fan's design is actually impactful for airflow or just a gimmick.