Windows Laptops will never be the Same

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Performance of Windows laptops has always come down to an Intel vs AMD battle but now Qualcomm is entering the Windows PC battle with their new Snapdragon X Elite and X Plus processors. And if their claims about battery life and overall performance are even half right, this could change the laptop market forever.
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0:00 - Qualcomm Enters the Chat
0:36 - Reality Check about App Compatibility & Emulation
1:13 - Snapdragon X Elite & X Plus
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2:57 - Performance vs Apple, Intel & AMD
5:15 - The Battery Life Question
6:11 - A God-Tier Webcam?
7:08 - All the Connectivity....Maybe
7:37 - An NPU that actually WORKS?
9:11 - The Big Gaming Question
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@josephoduor2358 23 күн бұрын

Just as I was with Apple before they released actual machines to reviewers, I won't believe it until I see an actual machine with this chip being reviewed.

@abb0tt 23 күн бұрын

I have no doubt the chip spec and device integration will come to fruition thanks to Apple Silicon hitting the market. The critical hurdle will be an integrators platform stack being able to compete the performance of Apple's stack (Silicon + macOS).

@SilverJoystix 23 күн бұрын

I agree

@SilverJoystix 23 күн бұрын

@@abb0ttThe critical hurdle is also seeing it come to market

@ashwinnarasimhan2729 23 күн бұрын

@@abb0tt Microsoft has been shipping ARM based Surface hardware for years now so I think at least anything first party like Office, Visual Studio, etc can run pretty well at this point and I'd imagine Qualcomm can easily get buy in at least from major apps like Chrome or Adobe Creative Cloud. The jury's going to be out on third party apps that Qualcomm or Microsoft haven't worked as closely with.

@abb0tt 23 күн бұрын

@@SilverJoystix that's literally what I addressed. These manufacturers no longer have a choice to coast, otherwise they'll drive their business into the ground as their market share plummets.

@georgioszampoukis1966 23 күн бұрын

The chips are very good, but the bottleneck is and will continue to be the OS. If Microsoft takes Windows on Arm seriously, the entire desktop and laptop scene is going to change.

@RobertDunn310 23 күн бұрын

How is the OS the bottleneck? Windows 11 (even on my x64 AMD laptop from 2020) is pretty stable and battery life is great (even better than when my laptop came with Windows 10. The real issue is lingering app and driver compatibility.

@vectorlua8081 23 күн бұрын

@@RobertDunn310 Because Windows on ARM and Windows on x86-64 is a lot different.

@RobertDunn310 23 күн бұрын

@@vectorlua8081 How?

@FrodeBergetonNilsen 23 күн бұрын

I guess I am the only one hoping for dirt cheap laptops with no fans? Actually, I would really prefer a push for Linux, in a more coordinated and commercial sense. That would enable a much wider adoption of laptops around the world. We don't need insane power for teaching tools, just amazing battery and good enough performance. For windows to fit that, Microsoft will need to windows free of charge. They could just enable some features as default, and allow for these to be changed. That should make everyone happy. But they keep on skipping support for old hardware, like 7th gen intel and 1st gen ryzen. Whe need a new vision.

@vectorlua8081 23 күн бұрын

@@RobertDunn310 Part of it is, that even though you can run quite a few x86 apps on ARM, a lot of the x86-64 instruction set has to be emulated, making just about every one of these apps slower. Another part is that Microsoft never took Windows on ARM "seriously", what I assume OP means by this, is that critical updates to the platform are all it really receives, i.e. security patches

@Paulie8K 23 күн бұрын

This is super interesting. I have an Alienware laptop I purchased a few years ago with an i7 and RTX 3080 and I'd love for my next laptop to have the combination of an X Elite for efficiency when I need to use it on the road and the higher end Nvidia GPU for gaming plugged in. I see that happening eventually.

@paulhubers1428 21 күн бұрын

Depends entirely if they add in PCIe lanes for a dedicated GPU. Everything I have seen only talks about having PCI support for peripherals and the storage. Adding in PCIe support will add some big redesigning

@Sam-gq8cl 20 күн бұрын

I wouldn’t use it for gaming from what I know so far

@drstrr 23 күн бұрын

I was about to skip the sponsor ad, and then I didn't

@HardwareCanucks 23 күн бұрын

Haha. We strive to be unique at least. ;)

@CheapBastard1988 22 күн бұрын

Had my finger right above the "Skip sponsor" button but had to keep watching.😂

@aninditabasak7694 8 күн бұрын

@@HardwareCanucksUnlike Linus and their pretty average sponsor.

@aLphawarrior063007 17 сағат бұрын

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@chm2 22 күн бұрын

If there was a snapdragon x plus powered Surface Go that ran as well as an iPad, that would be interesting.

@billkillernic 23 күн бұрын

Geekbench= you have faster memory bandwidth? You win.

@weaponcomparisoninvideogam5505 22 күн бұрын

More like you have Apple's chip , you win

@tlh1588 22 күн бұрын

Applebench?

@dirg3music 22 күн бұрын

Yeah Geekbench is laughably bad about this, lol

@TamasKiss-yk4st 19 күн бұрын

Well, if you have faster storage you also win in loading speed test.. so don't under estimate the transfer speed.. no reason to calculate 20GB of data in a blink if you need 0,6 sec to send that to the destination.. this is the same like HDD and SSD, when you reach a comfortable spot with capacity, you don't care if it's smaller like the HDD on the same price, you still buy the SSD, just because it's faster, and you need to wait less.. this is the same here too, the travel time of the data also counts.. faster memory = faster response (and when the speed difference is 1-2 frames you will start to notice, like an input lag, but the already calculated data arrived there too late, it's just happend a few frames ago..)

@billkillernic 19 күн бұрын

@@TamasKiss-yk4st I am not sure where you were going with this, my point was that you can get faster ram in x86 systems but usually when shills compare arm chips (eg Like the M# ones ) they do that by using slower memory on the x86 system , on top of that in every day (and in most)ba faster CPU has way more impact than faster ram

@BlackEn 23 күн бұрын

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@greenmonkey.8403 23 күн бұрын

*Cold 😂

@jesulobajohn8468 22 күн бұрын

Ikr, first time I didn't skip it

@sundiegoguy9097 22 күн бұрын

I went back to watch it again lol@@jesulobajohn8468

@Omega-EP 22 күн бұрын

They had it in previous videos too. It's phenomenal.

@Z3rgatul 21 күн бұрын

Arctic freezer are indeed good coolers Having second PC with them

@mateowoetam 23 күн бұрын

I think Linux is way ahead in ARM than Windows, considering Raspberry Pi & Android devices.

@Firing0 23 күн бұрын

i think arm is in a good state in linux. Raspberry has a good app repository

@yensteel 23 күн бұрын

Totally. The full version of Ubuntu is available for the Pi, so the last effort is the drivers. It's something to pay attention to.

@sklynexd 22 күн бұрын

Windows is still better.

@morbidsoy 22 күн бұрын

Only people who have nothing going on with thier lives uses linux.

@Omega-EP 22 күн бұрын

@@sklynexdI don't know...

@cloudboogie 22 күн бұрын

@@sklynexd you do you

@liberteus 23 күн бұрын

There is no "gaming question", I want battery life out of a laptop, and a good keyboard/screen.

@mechanicalmonk2020 23 күн бұрын

The lack of imagination on your part is irrelevant to the broader discussion

@lolol50735 23 күн бұрын

gaming is the fist thing i look up for a laptop, battery and keyboard are irelevant

@Djuntas 23 күн бұрын

@@lolol50735 Desktop my man...Desktop. Not just performance but bigger screen, better ergonomics and all that. I hate using a laptop all caveman bent over.

@josephle2381 23 күн бұрын

Millions consider video games when it comes to buying a laptop but you go and be different🙄

@jonathanto99 23 күн бұрын

@@lolol50735 just build a PC at that point, with gaming laptops you're paying more for less performance

@watercannonscollaboration2281 23 күн бұрын

Apple can get away with switching architectures because it’s so locked down on software. Windows is a far more difficult story for this, and I am as skeptical as excited to see if Microsoft and Qualcomm commits to this bit

@battish123 23 күн бұрын

if they want to compete with m chips this was the only move, now what is left to see is if programs will based off of arm architecture so at least certain programs can take advantage without the emulation layer.

@chadbizeau5997 22 күн бұрын

@@battish123personally I think going arm is a waste with risc V on its way. But They have a point too. A lot of government organizations and corporations and companies have used and continue to use older software. Heck, I'm helping with getting the installation of a new pharmaceutical app for one of our hospitals and they only just started supporting SQL 19 and Windows server 19. They wanted us to install on 16. And this is a major piece of pharmaceutical hardware and software. Things in the Enterprise World don't necessarily move very fast, so that is why it will always be difficult to change architectures in a Microsoft environment or even a Linux environment in some ways.

@badaoe3stratsonly130 22 күн бұрын

I think that the spread of AI will help with Emulation. I'm sure we'll still see some weird bugs. But i've got a feeling that the emulation will work well enough for most programs to be usable.

@battish123 22 күн бұрын

@@chadbizeau5997 you're right, i don't see the corporate world moving towards arm, they like to use easy to use programs without too much processing and heck older version of windows as well and there are no updates on linux that if it even is supported. However, i do see an average university student like me switching windows on arm. Everyday users who just want to browse the web and use office apps along with light gaming with bulletproof battery life. That's where the market for these chips are. As more apps for content creators start supporting this architecture, there might just be a legitimate competitor to apple in the market.

@battish123 22 күн бұрын

@@badaoe3stratsonly130 valid point for sure!

@Skylancer727 22 күн бұрын

I struggle to believe Qualcom's claims because they've always been behind Apple in the mobile side, why would I believe they could beat them on the larger scale then? Plus it's hard to believe that the programs are as well optimized for ARM when they were primarily made for x86.

@roundduckkira 11 күн бұрын

the thing is Qualcomm bought a company called Nuvia which consists of many of the same engineers of Apple Silicon, esp arches in the lead up to M1 on mobile or even M1? Either way, they know how to make a great ARM cpu so I hope it is good. But yeah while there is a chance, yeah the history of Qualcomm makes me think otherwise.

@-Blue-_ 7 күн бұрын

huh go and see the benchmark of 8 Gen 3 against A17 Pro in multi core and GPU performance and in both 8 Gen 3 is powerful than A17 Pro

@rogerhuston8287 21 күн бұрын

I believe Elite and X Plus are physically the same chip, it's just X Plus are the rejected Elite chips (binning)

@julliansibi 23 күн бұрын

Windows on ARM continues to be a concern for me, and most Windows apps still need x86. If Qualcomm implemented something similar to what Apple did and Microsoft cares about Windows on ARM more, then maybe there’s a chance

@MadsonOnTheWeb 23 күн бұрын

Apple has a more closed approach and they can select the apps they want to fully support or left to the emulation layer to handle by itself. Isn't the same on windows. In fact it is the opposite from that.

@ashwinnarasimhan2729 23 күн бұрын

Microsoft already has a pretty effective emulation layer for Windows on ARM, more complex stuff like SQL Server doesn't run well on Windows on ARM but I'd imagine Microsoft will now be quicker to address that

@jakoick1298 23 күн бұрын

@@christopherlindloff8331Microsoft also has trillions, they can at least create a new division for ARM, it's baffling that they won't

@Dave102693 23 күн бұрын

@@jakoick1298or have intel give some info for x86 instruction sets for their ARM chips

@yensteel 22 күн бұрын

Their strategy for Rosetta AND universal binaries was genius.

@alexisaubry3801 19 күн бұрын

Always interesting and balanced. Great job guys, thanks.

@LiVeWiRez 22 күн бұрын

👍🏽Nice preview on a reference unit. Is the storage removable/upgradeable 👀👀👀 ?

@lifestyle46 17 күн бұрын

That's just the demo unit. Laptop Manufactures will decide to do that or not, Qualcomm is making only chips not laptops there are demo purposes

@lanceislateagain 23 күн бұрын

Why compare it to discreet graphics, tho? How does it compare against the newer APUs from Intel and AMD?

@kingtuckgesus8879 23 күн бұрын

People commonly call an APU or integrated graphics discreet graphics even though it's not correct and I'm sure they'll be on par because if you look at the performance you get from Galaxy s24 ultra. For instance, you could run fortnite on that phone at like 30 frames per second and that's a Qualcomm chip

@lanceislateagain 23 күн бұрын

@kingtuckgesus8879, he did follow it up with "from Nvidia or AMD" so he was clearly talking about separate GPUs (cause Nvidia don't make APUs). That's still an odd comparison to make. As for Fortnite running on an S24, bear in mind that that's a mobile-specific version, with probably a lot of sacrifices and underlying changes to make it run. I'm interested in say, how well BG3 or heck, GTA V would run on this, compared to said APUs from Intel and AMD.

@kingtuckgesus8879 23 күн бұрын

@@lanceislateagain if he did compared to dedicated gpus and that would be wild. Because the performance can't compete. I don't give a s*** how many tops it has but I would also like to see some like for like comparisons. I would like to see something ran on it. That's not emulated and for now all we can do is debate and wonder

@andyH_England 22 күн бұрын

The X Elite has no chance against the best dGPUs. It would not be very comfortable for Qualcomm to compare.

@yamirizuki 16 күн бұрын

@@lanceislateagain actually, there is demo of BG3 and Control on this laptop and they run surprisingly well

@sighheinrich 23 күн бұрын

Thank you for the video.

@SkysTrains 23 күн бұрын

i just hope theyre semi affordable, and have support for ubuntu

@liamcollinson5695 19 күн бұрын

Seems like a good stepping stone towards a valve deckard type standalone pc VR headset i have heard rumors that the snapdragon x elite could work with dGPUs so maybe standalone pc VR is not as far away as I hoped

@BryantJoy 23 күн бұрын

which custom mech keyboard is that and the keycaps?

@RobertDunn310 23 күн бұрын

I'm excited about these laptops, but I will wait and see how they pan out in terms of reviews, updates and performance. The thing is that mobile CPUs from Intel and AMD are also getting really good and delivering decent battery life as well while being compatible with everything. I guess only those who really really need long-lasting battery and 5G on the go will be drawn to this product but if battery life is not that big of a concern for you, then it's a tougher sell.

@tony_two 22 күн бұрын

Great video! This seems very interesting.

@JohnEllisIII 18 күн бұрын

Should be interesting if professional software will start to follow this trend to ARM. I work 90% of my time in autodesk Revit and it’s entirely windows dependent. If Microsoft can actually make this happen that would be incredible.

@Jacob-hl6sn 23 күн бұрын

Supports lossless audio, what doesn't support lossless audio? I am confused.

@IracianOnzangtino 23 күн бұрын

yeah

@Workaholic42 23 күн бұрын

aptX lossless is indeed a Qualcomm exclusive. It is supposed to deliver full CD quality via Bluetooth. Other Bluetooth codecs compress heavily (and often audibly), e.g. AAC, SBC,…

@HardwareCanucks 23 күн бұрын

AptX lossless isn't supported by any Windows or Apple device right now.

@Jacob-hl6sn 23 күн бұрын

@@Workaholic42 oh its wireless stuff ok, never met a serious audio person who uses wireless stuff

@TheTastefulThickness 23 күн бұрын

@@Workaholic42 Darko had a video about this. You need perfect circumstances and anything other than that will drop you down immediately to lower resolutions. Its not the silver bullet it sounds like.

@MadsonOnTheWeb 23 күн бұрын

The problem about ARM chips is in the generic stuff. I'll see if it is good enough when a bunch of generic apps are open at the same time. It is easy to do that in a more closed system like mac os or android. But windows is just a lot more open to generic stuff.

@online_now6834 23 күн бұрын

the problem is Windows is a dumpster fire..

@Sakosaga 23 күн бұрын

If it was a dumpster fire, wouldn't be the most used OS. Linux would be but it's not.

@xingzhexin8843 23 күн бұрын

@@Sakosaga This is like saying "if fast food was unhealthy it wouldn't be the most popular food in the world". Yes it's most used in the world, still a dumpster fire.

23 күн бұрын

@@Sakosaga You'll find linux IS the most used OS by far, just not on the desktop.

@billy5688 23 күн бұрын

@ Not a OS, it's a kernel. Like saying NT (windows kernel) is most used. Also you know they mean home use. Having a computer is a niche now too, almost everyone I know just use their phones.

@udaysingh9_11 23 күн бұрын

@@Sakosagawindows has become so bad recently only. Also they have a huge corporate backing them up

@gbitencourt 19 күн бұрын

Thanks for clarifying the non-x86 nature at the start. Saved me some time.

@MG-zo6nq 22 күн бұрын

How much start with the price or estimate

@matthewsykes2646 23 күн бұрын

I have to admit that I would love to see some X Elite laptop design with a dedicated Nvidia gpu, not for gaming but for rendering and 3D work, since every piece of software i use is optimized for Cuda. I'm interested to see how emulation will work in this specific applications and if Qualcomm can really be a relevant player in the Windows ecosystem, considering that Zen 5 from AMD is on the horizon and Lunar Lake from Intel will follow shortly after (theoretically). The real advantage Qualcomm could bring to everyday use over Intel and Amd is a more seamless integration between laptops and smartphones powered by Snapdragon SoCs, but we need to wait and see, Windows (and Linux) on ARM could really become something interesting in the next few years.

@HardwareCanucks 23 күн бұрын

Just a quick correction. Lunar Lake laptops will be available to buy WAY before Zen 5 laptops.

@matthewsykes2646 23 күн бұрын

@@HardwareCanucks are you sure? I think Amd mentioned second half of 2024 for Strix Point, it should be around the same time period of Lunar Lake, in any case i don't think Lunar Lake laptops will be out "WAY before" Zen 5. But if i'm wrong, well, i'm going to be happly wrong xD

@jakoick1298 23 күн бұрын

@@matthewsykes2646 I thought Strix point is zen4+ and not zen5

@matthewsykes2646 23 күн бұрын

@@jakoick1298 nope, it will have Zen 5 cpu but RDNA 3+ for GPU

@Raderade1-pt3om 14 күн бұрын

Do u think ARM will eventually replace x86 or both gonna have their place in future?

@Moon-no3ts 8 күн бұрын

well depends on how they play it you mean in terms of ARM architectures, yes it can and in laptop industries, it might in embedded systems or single boards well ARM is everywhere where but in desktops and server space no because of how the ARM chips are implemented now they are not flexible or upgradable

@piyush.ochani 23 күн бұрын

When is this launching?

@forthphoto 11 күн бұрын

Can you please make video on Linux support on one of those laptops? One of the main ones.

@asdfasdffdcd 12 күн бұрын

Will x86 programs runs smoothly with translation layer?

@samdovakin2977 22 күн бұрын

I need this in android gaming handheld

@sumansaha295 22 күн бұрын

Android is shit for gaming. I'd rather get Linux or windows handheld.

@benj4807 22 күн бұрын

So are you the new owner now of hardware canucks channel?

@AceAku 22 күн бұрын

Is it possible to confirm if these new devices support Egpu's?

@BenyaminLorit 23 күн бұрын

I've been excited for this for a long time but at the same time, I really don't know if I want it considering how much of an issue backward compatibility would pose. There are decades worth of x86 applications that'll simply never run on this platform and I'm not sure I'm ready for that.

@HardwareCanucks 23 күн бұрын

Well if Qualcomm does what Intel did with ARC (terrible back-library support but gradually increasing) there's certainly some hope. That being said, there's still a lot of compatibility questions swirling right now.

@saiphaneeshk.h.5482 17 күн бұрын

How much improvement can be seen in android studio?

@renelackner3081 22 күн бұрын

Friendly reminder to be avare of the zoom in function when using generative fill! (4:22 on the right side) But great take on the topic!

@MrQuay03 22 күн бұрын

Do they work on Linux?

@user-ct8zg4nb3g 21 күн бұрын

My father is eighty years old. He is an elderly man and has a medical crutch. Is it possible for my father to use a modern smart phone? Are there any problems or drawbacks? Can you answer?!

@perrykeshahwalker5321 22 күн бұрын

Is the ram and storage user upgradable?

@andyH_England 22 күн бұрын

No, and unlikely.

@jinn-gaming2417 23 күн бұрын

wasn't that going to create same problem like mac? every software need to update to adapt with the change.

@dnvyl 23 күн бұрын

Yes, it would, but if ARM keeps being more efficient and faster, it will drive the market to develop for ARM rather than x86. So, the problem would solve itself

@TalesOfWar 23 күн бұрын

This is why Apple spent the last decade or longer moving everything and by extension, developers away from architecture specific code. It's mostly all abstracted away these days with modern languages and libraries like Swift, and they've been very good at translating one to the other for years given they've done it a few times already. Their last real big push to get to where we are now was to deprecate 32bit, which allowed a far cleaner, easier and more efficient transition. X64 translates MUCH better to ARM64. Apple did a lot of work to make the underlying architecture of no real concern to anybody not working with stuff close to the "metal".

@racerex340 23 күн бұрын

@@dnvyl Except that is only really true for the consumer market. Corporations have invested enormous sums into their existing applications, all of which are x86 based and would mean that a shift away is many many years away. The problem won't "solve itself" given the absolutely ginormous ecosystem of Windows & Linux apps that exist in the enterprise, many of which have been developed going back 40 years at this point. I don't think it stops ARM or even slows it down, but it prevents Microsoft as well as tons of other hundred plus billion dollar software companies from being able to no longer support x86, these companies will develop where the dollars are, and until there is enough revenue opportunity in the form of enterprises that are ready for ARM native versions of these applications, they can't really justify making the change. That said, smaller software shops, startups, that's where Enterprise on ARM will initially grow until enough groundswell has been created where the larger companies are officially losing revenue/opportunity by not also having an ARM option, but again I'm betting we're 10+ years out from there in the Enterprise, when Oracle begins releasing the majority of their enterprise platform apps in ARM alongside x86, that's when you know it's finally happening.

@102728 23 күн бұрын

Depends on adoption. Plus an x86 and an arm branch for software don't *need* to be synchronised. If anything, testing features on a smaller release on arm would be beneficial as a public beta instead of directly launching it to x86 right away. No clue if that actually will end up happening, but if so, arm would be on the cutting edge if anything. Companies already launch products to a limited customer base geographically, like for example intel arc laptops that were only actually available in korea and japan (iirc?) on their supposed launch date, or within the company I work at, launching new features only for australia first. Then there's software compatibility, where software that isn't directly ported from x86 to arm, could still use a translation layer to at least have access even if some performance is lost. Again, with adoption comes support so over time this would solve itself. Either way it boils down to how these chips will actually perform. If independent reviews find them to be as competitive as qualcomm claims, companies will find the money to throw at any hurdles.

@mrbobgamingmemes9558 22 күн бұрын

I wonder how bad app and games compatibility would look like here, i just hope it is not a disaster just like older arm based Microsoft surface laptop

@shadowarez1337 21 күн бұрын

If its from MS will these have the insane Surface Pro pricing models?

@ismaelrivera1999 19 күн бұрын

When we will see the first laptop with this chip?

@Angel-HC 23 күн бұрын

I'm very excited for this change. My last Windows laptop was a 2021 LG Gram 16 with an i7 1165G7 and while decent for my workloads, always felt a bit underwhelming in some ways. I really think Intel are not going to be the future for mobile computing with how awful their chip power efficiency has been. Could also be Windows-related inefficiency, but having my fan ramp up when I'm just sitting on the desktop doing...nothing, got old or just having a couple tabs open in my browser and seeing my CPU temp jump to 80 degrees is kind of ridiculous. I'm on Mac now for my portable needs, but Windows remains my preferred desktop platform. Maybe Mac is just way ahead of the game in efficiency, but if Windows platforms using Arm start to work towards that, I have a good feeling for the future of computers.

@adryx_92 23 күн бұрын

Is your watch a Seiko? If so, which reference?

@mastroitek 21 күн бұрын

2x longer battery with Teams sounds great, opening Teams is basically equivalent to a battery torture test rn

@neorskate 14 күн бұрын

Will these platforms ever support expansion cards? And probably a desktop version with a board containing everything and expansion ports?

@HardwareCanucks 14 күн бұрын

Not that we know of.

@alesterpadua7884 16 күн бұрын

Can you play League and Valorant on ARM version of Windows?

@JonitoFischer 6 күн бұрын

Forget about windows, can I install archlinux on it?

@lolol50735 23 күн бұрын

doesnt mater how fast it is when it cant run half the staff you want.

@IracianOnzangtino 23 күн бұрын

stuff not staff

@maxweinbach3996 23 күн бұрын

@@IracianOnzangtinoor maybe it is “staff”

@lehaepta 23 күн бұрын

@@IracianOnzangtino But what if he runs a plantation and uses legacy x86 software from 19th century? Think of it before correcting.

@IracianOnzangtino 23 күн бұрын

@@lehaepta geez

@IracianOnzangtino 23 күн бұрын

@@maxweinbach3996 over reactive

@CatlessPrius 21 күн бұрын

It would be nice to see a desktop version of this that's still modular. Having a lightweight PC that you can bring with you anywhere would be sick.

@hughjazz44 22 күн бұрын

Windows on ARM for 7 years? More like 12 years. The OG Surface used an Nvidia Tegra SoC.

@saricubra2867 22 күн бұрын

"NVIDIA Tegra SoC" Oh, basically a Nintendo Switch

@crestofhonor2349 22 күн бұрын

@@saricubra2867 Older than that. It's not the Tegra X1. Nvidia was making a few mobile chips back in the early to mid 2010s and I remember that

@vik1ng313 22 күн бұрын

@@crestofhonor2349 Isn't NVIDIA, Intel and AMD also working on ARM chips for the mainstream market?

@roysolid2 22 күн бұрын

I loved your video . But I wished if you asked them if it coming to Desktop and if we can change it every generation

@aditya.pratama 9 күн бұрын

I'm curious how engineering software (CAD/CAM/CAE) performance on this SoC. Really interesting when we can draw 3D CAD, Simulate, Render in that thin devices or maybe on tablet. CMIIW

@shuccle6161 19 күн бұрын

the red color looks so cool

@seanvideoediting 22 күн бұрын

If they can beat aplle in Davinci Resolve and have full performance on battery, I will gladly prefer that!

@user-su4gg2vw5u 5 күн бұрын

Which AI Based Laptop is going to be released with Snapdragon X Elite Chipset? I heard Lenovo is releasing AI Laptop with Snapdragon X Elite Chipset which is also compatible with Windows 12 ?

@HardwareCanucks 5 күн бұрын

Every laptop is an AI laptop. Even ones release years ago.

@Majber 17 күн бұрын

I love hearing your English. It's very easy to understand.

@1plus68hehe 17 күн бұрын

I wonder if windows on arm applications will be compatible with non-arm and vice versa. That's honestly probably going to be the biggest hurdle in the ARM transition for windows

@lifestyle46 17 күн бұрын

Talk about MediaTek and AMD making Laptop and PC Chips ...I am really Interested in that, Now there 4 brands in Pc CPU market. Really looking forward how's the competition going to play out

@phillipcesar 23 күн бұрын

The most important thing on a portable is performance per watt. Apple is far ahead only because of this. Lets hope Qualcomm brings us good products.

@ehtasam960 22 күн бұрын

Its 40% better perf/watt than apple silicon m3.

@IceBlueLugia 22 күн бұрын

@@ehtasam960At 40W, which is useless

@PineyJustice 22 күн бұрын

@@IceBlueLugia And it is very close in performance to a 18w 7840u

@ehtasam960 22 күн бұрын

@@IceBlueLugia 23 watt chip

@IceBlueLugia 22 күн бұрын

@@PineyJustice Oh ok. That's good then

@user-ct8zg4nb3g 21 күн бұрын

My father is eighty years old. He is an elderly man and has a medical crutch. Is it possible for my father to use a modern smart phone? Are there any problems or drawbacks? Can you answer??

@fudor3355 17 күн бұрын

Yes, it is definitely possible. A smart phone is a useful tool for communication.

@moist_ointment 22 күн бұрын

Did I miss the ST GB6 test? I understand having a limited test suite, but only showing MT results and not ST results is very sus

@returningwhisper 22 күн бұрын

Will probably need a lot of money thrown behind it in the software space to get it rolling, but I would love to see this take off.

@zsueitam8470 22 күн бұрын

I'm very excited for arm processors for windows. I'm waiting for these with buying a new laptop.

@MsMytube75 23 күн бұрын

Amd vs Intel who better ThinkPad gen 3 amd or intel

@paolopandas2103 20 күн бұрын

I would want this in a Desktop PC as well.

@jaiconruedas 17 күн бұрын

I hope the numbers live the hype. I need to see more of the video testing the actual and real-life performance of this chip. Yes, Im excited for this new player in pc world.

@tas1kaaaaax 23 күн бұрын

How is the Linux support for these new cpus?

@billy5688 23 күн бұрын

Horrible, they aren't released and nothing in the kernel supports them yet

@tarfeef_4268 23 күн бұрын

Once they are, though, Linux on arm is pretty great

@BrunodeSouzaLino 23 күн бұрын

Non-existent. Pretty much all mobile SoC manufacturers have their stuff hidden behind proprietary layers. You can't get some of the code even for the Raspberry Pi, which is supposed to be a fully open source SBC because Broadcom doesn't want people looking at their SoC.

@burnedmozzarella 16 күн бұрын

considering Snapdragon has good custom rom support in android world (which, uses linux kernel) the devs will kinda work themselves out... even driver, they done "worse" by reverse engineering M series chip on Asahi Linux

@BrunodeSouzaLino 16 күн бұрын

@@burnedmozzarella You'd think that to be the case but good luck finding drivers for a completely closed and proprietary series of SoCs. Even a Raspberry Pi is not that open because Broadcom doesn't want people looking at their source code.

@AD34534 16 күн бұрын

What I love about ARM is the inclusion of accelerators on their SOCs. For example that ISP which makes your webcam go from borderline unusable to smartphone quality. x86 chips have lacked these features since they only focus on core performance and nothing else. Hopefully Qualcomm doesn't lock their bootloader because I'd love to run Linux on it.

@Dew4lk 23 күн бұрын

Fingers crossed that this will be a good launch, its time for arm to become more mainstream with windows laptops

@algo_ritme 23 күн бұрын

Why not Cinebench it against the M3 Pro or Max, the Core Ultra 9, Ryzen 9 8945HS? Do you afraid from a better result? Bytheway it is impressive.

@BrunodeSouzaLino 23 күн бұрын

Because Cinebench would have to be emulated to work, as it is a x86 benchmark.

@vik1ng313 22 күн бұрын

Also, the Ryzen 9 8945HS is just the 7940HS but with an NPU. There's 0 performance difference.

23 күн бұрын

Those Apple style performance graphs that say nothing at all are absolute BS. Promoting them is just reinforcing this nonsensical trend.

@maxderdax6117 23 күн бұрын

They don’t say nothing tho do they. They clearly state the comparison and just because it’s percentages not numbers doesn’t make it useless

@jlelelr 21 күн бұрын

can it do autocad 2D?

@soldarknezz 21 күн бұрын

I really hope these chips are going to deliver. I just want a 2-1 with oled, 120Hz and apple silicon like battery life .....pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaase

@kountheaim 22 күн бұрын

I know it's out of topic and forgive me for asking what is the name of that cool keyboard behind you, on the desk.

@omarbsalama 19 күн бұрын

Same question on my mind!

@hassb6348 22 күн бұрын

A laptop with a DGpu that can be disabled for eco mode with this arm chip would be insane. Not sure how they would pull it off but this would be the dream

@Cleisthenes607 23 күн бұрын

What is the TDP of the processors, not the whole system TDP but that of the SOC itself and then because its arm based does that mean both Ram and SSDs are soldiered on so no upgradability?

@flummi6966 15 күн бұрын

Hi, TDP was mentionend to be 10-80 Watts and Ram/SSD are up to the manufacturer to be made upgradeable. Thin passive might have only SSD and thicker ones both. Like in the Rasberry PI

@anderbeau 18 күн бұрын

I don’t get it… if EVERYBODY is switching to ARM then what’s gonna happen to Intel & AMD? 🤷🏼‍♂️

@arpadjszabo 15 күн бұрын

Cool watch man!

@shalomrutere2649 16 күн бұрын

Improvements to Windows for arm and app support will make Windows laptops even more wonderful but it'll also strengthen Macs as Windows on parallels will work even better

@alexandermarcusvaan 23 күн бұрын

Dying to know what kind of watch you're wearing lol

@madmaxhan 22 күн бұрын

its a seiko aplinist gmt

@yensteel 22 күн бұрын

Uh, around $1000 then.

@esthergennn 22 күн бұрын

I'm excited to see how these perform under Linux since ARM has been a feasible architecture under Linux for a number of years thanks to development for SBC systems like the Raspberry Pi or Rockchip SOC based SBCs.

@AdamSmith-gs2dv 14 күн бұрын

Won't be able to, they have forced secure boot (aka locked bootloader) so you can't load custom OSs. Welcome to the hell of rooting/custom ROMs

@esthergennn 13 күн бұрын

@@AdamSmith-gs2dv I'd like to see your source on this. Given that Snapdragon Elite SOC support has been implemented into the upcoming mainline Linux 6.8 kernel. Previous Windows on ARM Snapdragon chips (8cx and 7cx) series had unlocked bootloaders. Albeit Qualcomm's Linux support has been pretty lackluster.

@Werpet7 22 күн бұрын

Would love to own one. We need to push for ARM or even better Risc 5

@MathewDennis 21 күн бұрын

Linux support?

@asnifuashifj91274 23 күн бұрын

Two things I would expect from SDX 1) comparable performance with Apple-M chips and 2) good battery life that would last as long as Macbook Pro does. With Apple closed ecosystem I am really looking forward to dual boot aarch64 (Windows and Linux) as part of my daily driver for both work and play.

@andyH_England 22 күн бұрын

I am not sure that Qualcomm will allow Linux. It doesn't look like it at launch. I suspect MS investing billions in ARM has bought them the right to tell Qualcomm not to allow Linux. So you may be disappointed.

@dtzyYT 23 күн бұрын

OK now I'm getting interested in buying a new notebook PC.

@rthwbyw 23 күн бұрын

performance comparison, benchmarks, numbers. everything looks promising (sometimes or maybe most of the time its misleading) but can we still trust on these?

@VicharB 23 күн бұрын

I'll wait till Gen3 at least and see how it progresses on notebook/laptop side along with the Linux compatibility, being the priority for me, and how it will stack against AMD ZenX in time to come. Otherwise, this is looking good, as a first gen for sure.

@Raffzyy 2 күн бұрын

Im convinced that improvement in arm app compatibility will also benefit Mac users because of virtualization of windows in macOS.

@marufbepary100 22 күн бұрын

I am interested to see how these SoCs do in Linux. Knowing the Linux community, they will put together something that makes their apps work well on ARM.

@DankGank 23 күн бұрын

We will likely see offerings with discrete gpus

@honahwikeepa2115 11 күн бұрын

About time 👏

@themomaw 23 күн бұрын

Not switching to ARM unless there is a 110% reliable automatic translation layer from x86. Yeah it's great that major companies can be compelled to do new ARM compile targets and optimize for ARM, but there's an entire world of software for x86 where it's either abandoned or too indy to support multiple architectures.

@TalesOfWar 23 күн бұрын

If it's abandoned and you still use it for important stuff, you should probably find something else to replace it as it WILL stop working at some point, unless you stop updating the rest of your platform.

@fleurdewin7958 21 күн бұрын

If ARM for Windows need higher adoption rate , AVX instruction emulation is a must have. There are increasing number of Windows apps that need them, including games.

@tuckerhiggins4336 23 күн бұрын

Im guessing the gaming part of this wont work. But might be promising for thin and light if we expect it to be supported in the future

@yensteel 23 күн бұрын

Perhaps the android and iOS apps are easy to port or run at least through virtualization (not emulation). I'm not sure how different androids graphics api is from Windows. It's a big problem for pc gaming.