The original idea of a B-17 was that it wouldn't need a fighter escort. If you ever look at one it has guns literally everywhere. It wasn't until later in the war that this idea proved to be ineffective. It's why the B-29 actually had less defensive weapons than a B-17.

And this takes place after the war in Europe and the Pacific are over, so why would an air force still send a hand full of bombers without proper protection across the ocean? Makes not a lot of sense.

@@1337penguinman The B-17 formations without fighter escorts delivered quite some damage themselves but also received heavy losses. Day attacks on Germany were postponed for almost a year until long-range capable fighter escorts were available.

These anime creators clearly have absolutely no knowledge about aerial warfare.

@@brothergunns5055 I'm sorry they're not gay nerds like you

G00NS indeed

Couldn't agree more

yea

Truest thing ever said

aaahhhhh war thunder... the fortnite of war gaming 😂😂😂

Bomber:Yeah I Cant Drop My Bomb I Am Going *Die*

🤦😂

Aren't they allies?

@@dalvovalos3928 todays Allies might be your tomorrows enemy. Much like Soviet and America I guess Anyways, I’d recommend you watch “the man in the high castle” if you like this kind of content

Now the realist battles are mixed... a real sh*t!!

*PTSD from war thunder*

@@janflantier7969 Rank 1 "Yeah, this is fun" Rank 2 "Ok, that was bull but whatever" Rank 3 "Thats it, i quit" Rank 4 "Idc anymore, life is an eternal suffering" Rank 5 **dead**

YOU GOT A HOLE IN YOUR RIGHT WING

@@Enderboy4030 "I coulda sworn my tail was there a second ago"

Ja Broski huh the gunner seems to have been exploded by a 20mm round that directly hit him

japanese engineering, bruh

The Axis PoweR Pre-War Japanese "engineering" wasn't exactly a compliment, bro. sure, their planes were maneuverable, but they were also tinderboxes that blew up with one or two hits. their tanks were so thin-skinned heavy machine guns could knock some of them out. Some of their infantry rifles dated back to the Russo-Japanese war, and their machine guns weren't much younger. then there was the issue of how all of their weapons seemed to use different-caliber bullets, and how their pistols were utter crap, and...eh, i could go on.

The Axis PoweR fat lot of good better planes do you when all your skilled pilots are at the bottom of the Pacific, sunk by "inferior" American aircraft and ships... Kinda hard to talk about Japanese "engineering" without talking about ALL their weapons, man. you can't just look at one aspect of their technology and apply that to all their weapons. That a pre-war tank design and weapons like the M3 37mm anti-tank gun were still effective against Japanese tanks all through the war shows how ineffective the Japanese tanks were. look at their tank assault on Saipan, none of the Japanese tanks survived, while not a single US tank was knocked out. ah yes, one of the most powerful Navies....that never developed Radar, put far too many resources into useless giant battleships, and was torn apart by the ships and aircraft of the US fleet. Japan lost the resource and technology war, as well as the manufacturing war.

+Soundwave3591 if you wan to talk about japan you need to learn about how they thinking , japan mainland are 90% mountain or hill that not fit for huge battle for tank or for heavy tank same for asia / island in asia + japan tank were make to vs Chinese which only got few ww1 tank and armor car other asia country don't even had ta(nk + the colony country don't used tank in they colony in asia dual to same reason that the Japanese didn't focus on tank only later In the war the American bring m4 and the british bring they m3grand to asia that out class japan tank lead to japan making chiha 75mm with same class with the m4 and heavyer tank chiho with better gun and armor to vs m26 but the war end befor it been mass build for chiho and chiha was keep in japan + remember one think in saipan the American control the air and who control the air = control the battle = tank attack will get destroy by F4U ,F6 with rocket / bomb + navy bombard from American bb / cruiser / dd it not the tank bad if tank vs tank only japan light tank vs American light tank both side will get the same number of destroy tank lol .about inft weapon japan lack of everything that why they didn't go for semi auto rifle that they test in the 1930s , same to Japanese submachine gun , only in late war more type 100 were make but befor war only marines / special force get to used those type 100 smg dual to lack of rescouse to make gun / ammo for them + japan machigun is one of the best during ww2 they heavy type92 can shot all day with out overheat the barrel and can put behin the hill to loop shot over the other side , type99 light mg great MG light , accurate better then the brens( which the bren is a copy from Czech LMG only abit modifly ) meanwhile the type99 look like but it not the same like the Czech mg ( the france also have the gun that look same but it not the same inside ) + japan rifle are not from 1905 WAR lol

inoue jerry the Japanese were developing tanks almost as long as tanks existed: their first machines were surplus British WWI tanks, and they started their own development program in the early 20's. the Type 89 "medium" was one of the results of these tests. the battle of Khalkin Gol in 1939, where Japan fought superior units of Soviet armor, should have demonstrated that if they intended to face a superior Western army, they needed modern ground assets in strength.

正直に言うと一回くらい敵に勝たせてやれよ。(面白いけど)と思います。

@@user-fx4mo6tv2c確かにwそのせいで外人がマジレスしまくってるw

エセ桜花

より良い負けが出来ていない定期

現実でも戦闘機だったら...。

who cares about in reality , just enjoy the fiction bro

@@keeganbruce19 to make it fair. This piece of fiction feels unfair for me

And they can't see below the plane )

これは漫画です

And most of all. Why are they shooting German bombers if they were allied .?

Nimori Kandara they are

I forgot they were but the pilots were called kamakaze pilots

Those kamikaze planes are called "baka" by the Americans

MXY-7 Ohka

They're loosely based on them, I think. The wings are moved back on the jets in the anime. Kudos to the animators for taking into account a different center of gravity.

The problem is the extreme range. I'm sure the Germans would have provided a fighter escort if they could, but unless it was so laden down with extra fuel tanks as to be useless in a dogfight, no fighter plane of that era could accompany a long-range bomber all the way to the target. If you're attacking Europe or Japan from bases nearby, sure, but a flight from occupied Europe to Japan would never be able to have fighter protection for the whole flight.

AutoFox1 the P-51 Mustang was able to escort bombers all the way to the target and back

The P-51 had a maximum range of 1,650 miles, or 2,656 kilometers. The B-29's, for example, was 3,250 miles, or 5,220 kilometers. So, no, it absolutely could NOT, or at least not if it were flying out of anywhere further away than Okinawa or mainland China, which they did. However, the hypothetical German equivalent would not have the opportunity to do this, as in this scenario I believe Japan still firmly held on to its territory in China and the Pacific.

AutoFox1 hmm when the atomic bpmb was dropped over Hiroshima the B-29 had an escort from 2 P-51 and a weather plane but then they could have launched from islands closer to mainland Japan

I believe they took off from Okinawa, yes. Also, the Enola Gay didn't have a direct escort; the weather planes - also B-29s - flew over something like an hour ahead of time, and the P-51s hung back, which makes sense given the projected power of the bomb.

you could argue that they finaly got their America bomber and went to Japan😉

No no the pilots are high off the jet fumes after front flipping to 20,000 feet

@@obelic71 YEAH and Japanese fighting with Germany like wtf Japan and Germany were all axis countries so why are they fighting

@☀️☢️DEFINITIVO☢️☀️ naah I don't think so

@☀️☢️DEFINITIVO☢️☀️ YEEES LMAO

We meet again. Idk when was the last time I saw you Comrade. Hope your doing well👌

They already made the first jet in real life.

They did. AR 234 for instance.

Didn't expect seeing you here, waiting for your next lego video.

They were making some, one even infamously overflew over normandie as a flex, but only on a recon manner

Can i have the name?

@@crimson7554 author Aramaki Yoshio Art of Title "紺碧の艦隊"→"新・紺碧の艦隊"→"旭日の艦隊"→"新・旭日の艦隊"

CとKが火病🔥起こしそうで草🌿

恥ずかしいよな、こんな妄想戦記でホルホルなんて しかも米帝じゃなく敵がドイツて

​@@ryokum卑屈精神を自慢してホルホルするのがそんなに楽しい？w

Also these guns are high velocity cannons too

Ace combat in a nutshell

これは、山本五十六が高野五十六となって転生したチート物語です。動画に出ている戦闘機（あなたがロケットと言っているもの）は局地戦闘機「桜花」です。前世は特攻機だった桜花は後世では蒼莱や爆龍と一緒に、本土防空のために努めております。動画では飛行実験をしており、発射した時に、ドイツの戦闘機「ヨルムンガンド」がたまたま本土を爆撃しに来ていたため、迎撃しました。

むしろ、逃げだそうとした爆撃機を撃墜してる始末。 ヒトラー激オコかと（笑）。

@@user-zr4og9re6i 勇者王な桜花パイロット「光になれぇ!!」 チョビ髭「チクショーメェ⁉」

@村木倫太朗 それは思った

しかし、着陸装置はありません 🤔

@村木倫太朗 秋水がそうですよ。

​@@TURIKITHIKOZOONOMARUBOUZU秋水をベースにしたらどうですか?

@@user-fx4mo6tv2c 秋水は航続距離が短いロケットエンジンですからね。 このジェットタイプの桜花も計画されてましたからね。簡易的な構造にした感じなんでしょうね。

Well, in Man of the High Castle the Germans had Nukes, Jets and VTOL, and all the Japanese had where some Swords, old Carabiners and some Ships :)

@@WanderfalkeAT "some ships" they literally have a better navy then the germans, both during ww2 and we can assume they have a far more advanced navy in the 50s and 60s

Yeah, quite a bit of it exists as well

When your own country is disintegrating, you have a choice of 2 demented rapists for your next leader and have to cope so hard that you reminisce about past "glories" of nuking civilians.

Have you seen some of the ridiculous movies Americans have made about Vietnam?

That’s basically the plot of Rambo 2.

Japanease did not invented.They just worked harder than others.

海上の特攻よりはこちらの桜花にのりたいよ

こうゆう風に使われて欲しかったよね人間爆弾じゃなくてさ…まぁ、どちらにしろ戦闘がないことに越したことはないんだけどね…うん。

Stalin might have Wanted to invade Japan. But the USSR lacked the Amphibious capability let alone capacity to invade the Japanese home islands. I will grant that the USSR could capture the port of Pusan, Korea; that would be like the Allies trying to invade Spain from the port of Cherbourg, Normandy, France, a month after capturing it. Look up the MASSIVE Fleet of cargo vessels, not to mention specialized Amphibious landing craft and warships just to cross the English Channel. Two years of preparation. Next consider the Armadas, larger than those used to land in Normandy, necessary to invade Iwo Jima and then Okinawa. Soviet logistics would have to go by train across the Trans-Siberian railroad. Where do they get the ships? Vladivostok? The USSR wouldn't have the capability to invade Japan by October 1965!

Nope, these are jet planes (in this anime). These fighters have ramjets. The ramjet can starts only when its reach a higher speed. thats what we see in the vid. the original mxy-7has got rocket engine thats true

@Positive Anion guess they have a turbo charger lmao

In real Life, The interception version of the MXY-7 ia really build and used, but only 2 was build, and use the rocket engine not jet engine

Positive Anion ramjets don’t have any moving parts. They need to be already moving to start.

Positive Anion kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rtZ_lJZzlZnLiZs.html

シロー・アマダやんけ…

航空母艦加賀 シロー･アマダじゃんかw

末雅之 もしくは勇者王ww

武装が大口径なのは合ってるｗ

はえ～後是日本はEz8作れんのかwww

There’s a fansub project on Patreon

@@WeissVogel thanks dude I have heard of it, do you know how much they're asking for a month or is it a contribute what you can sort of thing?

紺碧の艦隊‼︎

ちなみに、｢ナウシカ｣の世界では、｢エンジン｣を回収して再利用するそうです。 この画像を見るとエンジンに直撃して再利用できそうにないな。

Battle of Britain??

@@thefellathathuntsvatniks Yep.

In this time line Japanese actually have J7W2s which pretty much match 262 tho in show it not actually called shinden if remember it known sorai or something like that

@@dragoontype00alphaz19 if you mean the Kikka I’m pretty sure that was just a 262 serving with Japan

@@nicholaswilson1851 the kikka it isn't 262 it smaller it was very much Japanese in house design it it was Japan first jet to bad day or so after it first test flight it got bomb the J7W on other hand was pusher prop which ad limited number made the was idea to refit them with better version of jet engine on kikka which been cool to see

@@dragoontype00alphaz19 not just J7W2 and Kikka but even R2Y2

@@AErch oh yeah i forgot about R2Y2

Or the war against Japan have success and Heusmann launched the nuclear missile.

@@diegovenegas5400 please dont tell me thats the actual storyline

@@diegovenegas5400 the man in the high castle

Nah this is the alternate history where US talk no jutsu'd Japan to join Allied force and now they're fucking over German.

+Kevin Y This was on point, thanks for the laugh xD

With an added KV-2 cannon.

And the rocket boosters wouldn't run out.

lol

pls add gaijin to counter Tu-4's

もしかしたら現代の戦闘機にも勝てるかも？ 流石に無理かなぁ…

ヌケニン好きの syun 弾速が遅いからな～ 爆撃機又は大型機用だね

魂不知火 火力が問題になるな

確かに

ロケットエンジンであんなに旋回できるのかね（笑）

I was thinking it looked like an otaku's revenge wet dream

heh they just love to imagine themselves having the tech they wanted to try to win, at least Germany was advancing before we kicked their ass

Look I'm a bit of a weeb but when I see Japan win against America and stuff in Light Novels and stuff I do cringe a little. Example, Chivalry of a Failed Knight.

Sir this is fiction.

The A-10 Warthog uses a similar wing design and the MXY-7 Ohka kamikaze rocket propelled bomber also used a similar wing design, so an early generation jet fighter would be able to get away with a straight wing rather than a swept wing since they would not be going that fast for a jet. They would just have to reinforce the wing to cope with the additional stress , but it would not be in insurmountable problem.

Both planes your referencing are sub-sonic. Meaning they fly under the speed of sound so they can have straight wings.

1973Washu A-10 Warthog is one of the few modern planes that went subsonic speed only. As for Ohka, it a suicide rocket-boost aircraft. You does not need wing if it going to blew up right? The aircraft shown above is moving above the speed of sound so swept wing is able to avoid any wings from being ripped when used at supersonic speed. A usual straight wing cannot sustain such drag power from the wind at supersonic speed.

桜花？

自爆テロ機という呼び名は撤回求む。 特攻はテロとは違うのだよ。 テロとは。

@@user-qg3zs9uk7rテロって何処に書いてありましたか？

同意

これだったら乗りたい。

これ、桜花なのか

戦略爆撃に護衛はつけられないですよ(航続距離や航続距離や航続距離のせい) まああの世界ならできるかもしれないけど

東方ファン軍事物好き かつては米軍も爆撃機に護衛用の超小型戦闘機をくっ付ける事をやってたような…

@@user-vf4gk8dx1y 実用化されてないんだよなぁ

パラサイトファイターってやつ？

焼きチョコ少尉 あれだよ、ゴブリンってやつ

This and The Cockpit are kind of weird war shows. It's best to focus on the animation and not the propaganda.......Let's be glad this show was hidden away.

Japan' entire objective in the war was to liberate Asia from Europeans and set up friendly governments in the area, so yes they will set up de jure independent governments, not colonies.

@@Warsie Yeah sure it was.

i thought the same thing lol

No, those looki more like the Japanese purpose built kamikaze rocket planes, Ohka.

No they weren't. Those were kamikaze jets. Think bomb with a pilot and jet engine. But they were Japanese. The only Japanese jets used in combat so far

Cara Institute of Advanced Hypnosis and they are fighting against the German bombers.

Cara Institute of Advanced Hypnosis 37 ignorant people lol

+Joseph Stalin Well, those German planes totally sucked, so who knows.

The Japanese were pretty much the Germans of the Pacific. They both had amazing vehicles and some of the best crews, but the allies could outlast them. The Germans and the Japanese just couldn't keep their superior quality up, while the allies could keep a constant quality going. Although in the end the allies crews far outmatched the axis ones, because the allies had more resources to train them and keep a good pace at the same time.

Eve Laur The Japanese had great aircraft and ships, but their tanks sucked due to thin armor.

Or had stupid amounts of armour, in an island environment.

+Wizard 03 most of the ships might be good, but not the carriers, they lacked external venting systems for the hangers. this forced the crew to open hatches to thin out the aviation fumes so they didn't pass out. problem was that now almost the entire ship was a highly volatile bomb waiting to go boom. only other main problems with ijn ships was lack of trained crew among the sailors especially damage control an anti-air defence.....take a look at the fate of the Yomato and its sister ship.

thats probably the entire premise of the anime

確かにw自分が知ってるアニメでこれ以外にホントにやっつけたのは見たことないなw

Japan didn't like Germany originally, so it would make some sense for Germany to betray the Japanese this way and for the them to bite back

@@fishingmasterstudios9481 ahahahahahahahahah!!!

てかなんでドイツと日本が戦ってんだ､､､

@@SinanjuStein_MSN06s2 アメリカと戦争を継続しつつドイツに攻撃されているイギリスを助けて日英同盟復活→日米講和→敵は世界制覇を目論むナチス…のながれ

するかしないかで言ったらする

形桜花なのになんで機関銃搭載してるんだ？

前世の記憶はあるが特攻がない世界？ 1200キロ爆弾を積む必要がないからでかい砲をつむ余裕あるだろうし。

@Jovan Erlando well most of their war aren't recorded for odd reason

@Jovan Erlando well, they are worse than the nazis in WWII, but they try to hide their warcrimes.

my good friend you mean this goo.gl/images/cDHmqn

@@motulautech4680 you mean as unit 731

Someone didn’t watch the OVA

Do you have a link for the comic series ?

@@spirz4557 www.amazon.com/Luftwaffe-1946-Pocket-Manga-1/dp/0972897895/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=Luftwaffe+1946&qid=1562542649&s=gateway&sr=8-5

Italian?

was Japan who betray Germany IN THE REAL LIFE when instead attack soviet union Japan attack USA, if Germany was attacking Soviet Union so Japan should do the same from the east but not, they attack yankeeland forcing to that fucking country to enter the war, the reason is simple, JEWS MUST TO PROTECT THEIR LOVELY DAUGHTER, SOVIET UNION, never forget that comunism IS THE SON OF THE JEWS, and SOVIET UNION WAS THE DAUGHTER OF JEWS, that is the reason why all the efforts of allies was to protect soviet union, cos ALLIES WAS WORKING FOR JEWS, and this days the entire world is owned BY JEWS, is simple

@@carloko08 Japan could NOT attack USSR... While Germany was busy with their neighbours... USSR was fighting Japan and kicked Japan's ass (Battle of Khakhlin Gol) and then Japan and USSR made a peace treaty...but USSR still had Manchuria surrounded till the end of the war If Japan had attacked USSR they would have been crushed just like before. They were useless against USSR on land and their navy would not be of help

@Sweetbutter Cupcakes Japan was already getting drained in China alone... Japanese army was not as good as Soviet Army.. Japanese navy was good but not their army.. and yes Japanese did signed a non-aggression pact with Soviet en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_Neutrality_Pact If Japan had attacked USSR then it would have faced bigger problems by Soviet Siberian divisions...which were sent to German front after some delay (due to fear of Japanese attack).. Japan would have been stuck taking Siberia..

@Sweetbutter Cupcakes This is an alternate reality we are talking about though... Soviets broke the pact and invaded Japan.. But Japanese army was not "roughly equal" Soviet were much more advanced in terms of land equipment than Japanese... Japanese had their navy going for them which would be useless against USSR ... They could not have stretched their forces like Germany did and would have gotten kicked from both China and USSR. Germans on the other hand were losing Stalingrad and D-day as you say "US distraction" came after Germans were getting pushed back. It would have just taken a little longer without USA.

Previous title was full of caps and bs :D so nah

りんりん 噂じゃドイツの37ミリ機関砲(ルーデル機の主砲)を搭載予定らしいな。

桜花の自力離陸はあきらめて哨戒中の一式陸攻に吊るして爆撃機見つけたら切り離して迎撃するって戦法ができたらなあ

アッハイ実際その通りです