Intermittent Stalling Ford F-250 : The Real Fix

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In a previous video • Ford F250: Stalls Out ... I had a look at a customers F250 that was stalling out on him. Our testing lead us to the start run relay. About a month later the truck shows back up at my shop with the same symptom and guess what! The same row of fuses had no power in the fuse box. Oh boy....
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@SouthMainAuto Жыл бұрын

Looking back on my first video I think our testing was solid. Fact is, touching the relay disturbed the box (making the connection) and gave us a false sense of the repair. THE GOOD NEWS is we had solid testing so when the vehicle came back we knew what we did previously and exactly where to begin. If there was no testing performed previously we would still be flying blind at this point. This is why I try to stress to you folks to carry out the best method you can and be minimally invasive when dealing with an intermittents. As I proved, "touching" something can hide the real issue. Hope it all makes sense in the end. -Eric O.

@Blazer02LS Жыл бұрын

Yep, if you did good testing you already have a foundation as to where to look. The old "miracle touch" can drive you bonkers. Watched both vids, you did test and voltage was there. I'm guessing there were a couple of strands left and that was enough to usually trigger the low current relay. Then it rotted some more and failed. Switching the charger likely dropped the voltage and now that the battery had a better charge the second you switched it was enough to trigger the relay from the momentary voltage spike from the unloaded charger.

@chrismechanic2000 Жыл бұрын

just like you eric, i hated going into the fuse box on modern cars, the places they put them is just silly, a broken wire can drive you crazy...

@mikeprice4566 Жыл бұрын

Eric, your first go round was flawless. The intermittent connection remade itself and so the problem was gone. Intermittent problems are the worst! Keep the faith buddy.

@hobbit321a Жыл бұрын

I know you hate fixing these issues but that's you have to pay for the excitement of the chase which is the best adrenaline rush for a diagnostic mechanic 😂😢😮🎉 then the pain sets in as you have the task of the repair

@jayjudd6518 Жыл бұрын

You are’the man ‘the explorer in you makes you awesome.

@chrisforker7487 Жыл бұрын

If that’s the biggest thing you’ve missed, you’re doing better than 99% of mechanics out there.

@larrybe2900 Жыл бұрын

I still think he should quit being a mechanic like he said. What good is he anyway? ;) ........

@sasharamirez2335 Жыл бұрын

What I remember from previous video was it came down to this: EricO concluded that it was either the control side, or the power side, but then things magically got fixed which he even stated was likely going to happen (which he explained that's why you want to collect as much data as possible before touching a lot of stuff) He stated that the logical choice once the issue magically disappeared (without opening pandoras box) at that point, was to assume that it was the power side, replace the relay, and ship it. He also stated if the truck came back not fixed, he would immediately know that the issue was on the control side. I think him being sick made him forget that he told himself (and us) that.

@reddye2331 Жыл бұрын

Wow Sasha Ramirez u may want to be his data file organizer . Good job. In his defense. I was sick for over 2 weeks an now things from before tht time seem foggy and forgot some stuff. Craziest thing ever . Like a hangover from a late night of partying.

@dougsweldingfabrication953 Жыл бұрын

Eric... You're being awful hard on yourself brother. You can work on my vehicles any time. You're honest, and humble. Keep up the good work !

@clintprice2123 Жыл бұрын

Eric O has INTEGRITY, it’s why we come back and watch every video! I included you all as I’m sure you all agree.

@sharplessguy Жыл бұрын

I have been an electronics repair technician for almost 45 years. Intermittent issues happen. Multiple failure points happen. Multiple Intermittent failures happen. They'll drive you to question yourself. I started testing repairs by picking up and dropping the item repeatedly to see if there weren't hidden issues that would reveal themselves down the road. If you work long enough you're going to run into stuff like this. Congratulations on your sticking with it and fixing it. Well done

@Tsnor150 Жыл бұрын

Computer programmer here --> I do this with code too "I started testing repairs by picking up and dropping the item repeatedly". After a while you develop a really nasty set of test cases.

@busterbriley2119 Жыл бұрын

I found once you disturb the connection and everything starts working just leave it on the bench and come back after a while and the issue has resurfaced.

@zx8401ztv Жыл бұрын

The one that drives me mad is the (Works until the case cover is on and screws are in.) Then it fails. Often it's a hairline crack on the pcb and the case dares to move the pcb slightly.

@dentech4710 Жыл бұрын

Well said….heat..cold…opens…intermittent shorts…all can drive you nuts when your working with electronics.

@kevinthomas895 Жыл бұрын

Have you ever read the NASA study about "tin whiskers"

@billmarvin8951 Жыл бұрын

The first shop was actually correct in their diagnosis. But, they didn't want to make the effort to find out why the fuse box was bad. They would have replaced the entire fuse box and wire harness. That would have cost a fortune. As a repair technician for 40 years in the mainframe computer industry, I commend your troubleshooting techniques and your tenacity. Job well done!

@soupdragon5555 Жыл бұрын

Yep gotta love the irony there. Good work Eric.

@cjr1881 Жыл бұрын

It says a fuse box is $125 and an hour or two labor. Nice try. Would have been fixed a month ago and probably cheaper than what Eric charged.

@markchidester6239 Жыл бұрын

@@cjr1881 what is "it"? I find that very hard to believe. Maybe for the cover, sure. Maybe for the shell, but I doubt even that.

@no1ghostrider Жыл бұрын

@@cjr1881 that "fuse box" is not serviceable. It only comes with the harness, that's why it's so expensive

@MH-ev3wr Жыл бұрын

@@cjr1881 Say that fuse box really IS $125, which I doubt it is. As you saw in this video, there are literally zero connectors that connect the wires to that fuse box. As others here said that makes the fuse box something that is not serviceable to the tech. So if you actually found someone willing to take this job on, the tech would have to remove the pins from every single terminal in that existing fuse box and accurately put them onto the new fuse box. An hour or two labor my ass, and the risk of human error is very high. Not to mention that if they don't see the problem wire in the first place they go to all that effort and thing thing is still broken.

@mlsargent51 Жыл бұрын

I had a day and job just like this today, but a toyota. PITA to get it up and apart enough to test. I feel your pain! The fact the truck came back with the same symptoms, and you still made and posted a video, shows the quality of your character. To be admired for sure.

@toddwood1150 Жыл бұрын

YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG ERIC! You specifically said in the previous video of this pickup that if it happen to come back with the same issue after replacing the relay that you would immediately know the problem was on the control side. Quit beating yourself up man. You followed through,fixed the problem and have another happy customer. Job well done!

@Bobbywolf64 Жыл бұрын

Yea, I went back and double checked. He had 2 powers on the relay contacts then. What must have happened is that the crappy wire was JUST barely making contact, showing voltage, but when wiggled slightly from moving the relay, it had no current carrying ability, and the voltage drops out. He had no way of knowing that at the time, because every time he measured that control power, it was there! This time, it was broken enough that it was gone completely when measured, and that lead him to the broken wire. The process was good and correct, he was just unlucky basically. The crappy wire won the battle, but Eric O won the war!

@sasharamirez2335 Жыл бұрын

Yep. I just made the same comment, and came looking to see if someone else had reminded him. Sometimes being sick means that you can force yourself to function perfectly in the moment, but memories could be a bit of a blur. I do large deployments of enterprise servers, and I have to practically write novels to myself, because there's just too many details for me to remember. If I had to then produce a video of my work and make it so that it was consumable to general audiences, that would make my job significantly harder. All that being said, EricO still picked up on his previous trail perfectly even though he forgot what he told himself.

@jo300hn Жыл бұрын

Wish I had a fanboy club, to make excuses for me😘

@belka85 Жыл бұрын

"YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG". Wow what's wrong with you. LOUD NOISES.

@USAF99 Жыл бұрын

Eric, although its a pain in the hoo haa either way, removing the driver side wheel well liner gives beautiful access to the bottom of the fuse box. I usually will do that if I have to track a wire issue like this so the fuse box is undisturbed for troubleshooting.

@attilakohbor3360 Жыл бұрын

Hoo , haa alias PITAaahhaaa.....

@doughahn1355 Жыл бұрын

The fact that this fella brought his truck back to you says a lot about the trust he has for you. I wish I could find a mechanic that I could trust 1/2 as much in my area. We all miss things from time to time. However, without trust you never get a second chance.

@Doing_it_right_the_first_time 9 ай бұрын

Plus the fact that he figured the second time around would be free, so… I think that also played in Intrachol part in his decision.

@rogerannis6130 4 ай бұрын

Please don't quit!!!!! You are the best electrical mechanic I have ever seen and I only wish that at 74 I could figure out the stuff that you do. Keep up these great videos , Who knows , maybe I can still learn something ??

@schuck9326 Жыл бұрын

You are my favorite auto technician on KZfaq. A real professional without all the profanity that some use. I've always hated working on Ford's for the kind of stuff they do. They don't consider the technician when they design stuff.

@Rags722 Жыл бұрын

Back in the 50's started going on TV repair calls with my dad when I was about 10. Mid 60's USAF started my career in computer repair. That was when a single computer took up a full portion of the building and you stood inside it to work on it. Retired a few years back, but I can tell you there is NOTHING worse than an intermittent wire to troubleshoot. The first GE mainframe I worked on had huge racks (3 per bay) that the outside racks had to be swung open to troubleshoot the center rack. Problem was all the inter-rack wiring was not designed to be flexed multiple times. By the time the thing was 5 years old, we were instructed to never open a bay unless there was no other way to troubleshoot the original problem. The computer in question was used to detect and plot intercepts of aircraft that violated the East/West German border. Not exactly a piece of gear you wanted out of service for any length of time. Wonder how all my friends would have slept knowing that 25% of the entire 3 years I was overseas the most critical air defense system in Germany was being maintained by me.

@jamespfitz Жыл бұрын

I think they all slept better knowing someone was on watch. 🫡

@throttlebottle5906 Жыл бұрын

here a broken or bare wire, there a broken or bare wire, everywhere a broken or bare wire. lesson one of anything electrical or electronic, hands off! but sadly, just vibrations of natural daily things effects it all and will cause issues anyway.

@kirstenspencer3630 Жыл бұрын

As my friend serving in the us military said " we protected the peanut butter from the Russians.

@bobbg9041 11 ай бұрын

Lol now that type of computing power is in the palm of your hand. When I was 7 back in 1967 I walked into UD university of Dayton collage campus the room was full of giant reel to reel tape players this room was the size of 3 football fields The most that computer could do was add 2+2. And it took it an hour to figure it out.

@bombardier3qtrlbpsi Жыл бұрын

Great job on making it right 👍. I would think I'm speaking for 99% of your subscribers taking a vehicle to sma the job will be done right. And for me that's priceless.

@warrenfromga9945 Жыл бұрын

That is why I feel I must be a DYI'er. Around where I live if you want it done to your complete satisfaction, you better do it yourself. Tried to take mine to SMA one time, when I was in the area. SMA just stays too busy, and we know why. :)

@billjenkins687 Жыл бұрын

How about chasing a thermal intermittent on a CCTV balun on top of a utility pole while the wind is blowing about 40 mph? I, too am a (now-retired) technician and I forgot the basics for a minute until it all came back to me. Broken wire two inches back inside the jacket that would expand (circuit good) during the day and contract (open circuit) at night. Frustrating, but solved. Now, it's time to go drink a cold NON-ANHESUER BUSCH beer.

@thomasfletcher760 Жыл бұрын

👍

@jeffroepke4052 Жыл бұрын

Intermittent problems like this are the pits. Your diagnosis was spot on. “There’s the broken wire we are looking for…” The wire was probably damaged during assembly. After years of vibration and temperature cycling it finally broke.

@garretteidson8372 Жыл бұрын

Dude your a great mechanic. I’m in tech school to be a mechanic and your videos inspire me. The stuff I’ve Learned in school doesn’t even really click till I watch you do it. Keep your head up. You’ve been doing this a long time. You know what you’re doing.

@cobbleup Жыл бұрын

Don’t quit, you’re one of the best out there. The fact that you found the problem and fixed it is testimony to your abilities as a mechanic. Your videos are invaluable to us all. 👍👍👍👍👍👍

@PatrickJago Жыл бұрын

No other mechanic would have opened Pandora’s box. You the man. Don’t ever give up.

@gryffin2748 Жыл бұрын

I've been a electrical troubleshooter in a industrial complex for 40 + years and the only thing I say about an intermittent problem, is time will tell if it is fixed or it comes back. I think your logic is always great. Thanks for all your videos, and one gets by you, it shows you are human, after all.

@mattbrown5511 Жыл бұрын

Intermittent issues are the worst. They will make you cuss and think about a career change. You did well on this diag and repair my man. Hold your head high.

@Ned609 Жыл бұрын

As a 26 year old mechanic with 30 years experience I always go straight to the broken wire under the fuse box... just messing with ya keep up the awesome work you've helped me keep the parts cannon in the safe many times

@zell863 Жыл бұрын

So you start be mechanic even before you are born. wow.

@thebigmacd Жыл бұрын

@@zell863 whooosh

@2nickles647 Жыл бұрын

Was born with a ratchet on his baby 🍼... awesomeness 😅

@BernardBethea6339 Жыл бұрын

@@zell863 exactly tells me he is capping and lying

@zupmeoff Жыл бұрын

When I have a crappy day at work, I just try to remind myself that everyday is an adventure. And it ultimately feels good when you finally get it done.

@mouselt1 Жыл бұрын

Don't give up! The auto industry needs people like you. Unfortunately or fortunately, however you wish to look at it, you are probably one in a thousand "technicians" that has the knowledge and ability to diagnose these intermittent problems. Good job Eric!

@akawireguy1197 Жыл бұрын

You displayed your professionalism by sticking it out and refusing to quit until the problem was found and solved.

@robertheinkel6225 Жыл бұрын

Now we know why most shops won’t touch intermittent issues!

@johnds6621 Жыл бұрын

DON"T kick yourself for the return issue I recall you did everything right and your assumption of having power to that second terminal was right. I had a mechanic take four months to chase down a bad wire in a engine wire harness. Cool new tool.

@PaintmanJohn Жыл бұрын

Eric, I'm a 70 year old "FOSSIL" electronics tech / Shade Tree. One of the hardest intermittent problems to find is a poor connection. Like you said, the only load on that 10 AMP fuse was the relay coil? So that particular circuit was a load of DAMN NEAR NOTHING ! BTW, I liked the relay tester. Years ago when I worked in manufacturing, we built several pieces of test gear that allowed us to access signals in circuit without having to dismantle EVERYTHING. I also agree with your assessment of FORD trucks. HORRIBLE to access that Fuse box ...

@gregc8861 Жыл бұрын

This is so real, so many of us can relate to the frustration. Love the line about giving the fuse box lid flying lessons. 😂

@dstcn6614 Жыл бұрын

But Mr O missed threatening to introduce his fist to the engineer that designed it. I would have. Well done Eric

@hmccall3 Жыл бұрын

I'm a firm believer in the idea that an engineer should have to disassemble, work on, repair and re-assemble any part they work on. Then if they can't do it in a reasonable amount of time, back to the design stage! Should be a requirement that they give at least a little forethought for the 'next' guy.

@SPMech1 Жыл бұрын

After 40 plus years as an auto Tech I feel your frustration.........great job finding and fixing the problem ! ! ! ! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

@jaygold4467 8 ай бұрын

Brilliant diagnosis. This man should be teaching diagnostics at the local community college.

@applejuice5173 Жыл бұрын

I would not even know where to start. Hats off to you for your persitance and ingenuity.

@ricka5471 Жыл бұрын

We all understand the frustration with this repair. Manufactures dont give a rip about repair after assembly. They want to get it together as fast as possible and out the door. Thanks for showing us the frustration of this repair. We feel your pain at sometime or another with auto repair. Please keep showing us the real side of repairs. Thanks Mr O

@rick980 Жыл бұрын

Your are so patient compared to what I would be. Mother lover is nice compared to what I would call it. Also you are more like an electrical engineer rather than a mechanic! Keep up the great work. I so much look forward to your videos because 90% of the time I learn something. Lol so it off camera because you are gonna swear a little bit I love it

@briano3128 Жыл бұрын

2000 likes says you’re doing it right, we all have had the “straw that broke the camels back time” but you got it done!

@budd1814 Жыл бұрын

resisting the temptation to use a jumper wire for a repair. Nice work Eric.

@chriscorts3337 Жыл бұрын

Fuse box lid taking flying lessons...Lol. Great update. Thanks.

@TwilightZoneX Жыл бұрын

Unbelievable what you have to go through. I admire your talent despite the off camera words. I would NEVER have the patience to do what you do.

@missulu Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't have been the first time I drilled a hole through something and installed an outside fuse!LOL!

@danaowen9014 Жыл бұрын

Eric don't forget that on that first video you were not feeling well, so things like this happen, just don't be so hard on your self.We all still love your videos.

@thecode3fc Жыл бұрын

Every tech has his “tricks” to help troubleshooting to be quicker/confirmed. Old timer told me his was a [jumper] wire. I used his a couple times and built 2 of my own. Still using them 40+ years later. I use them to divide the circuit in question in half. (To conquer). As I watched the first video on the 250 I kept thinking “jumper the suspect leg”. It also can be a confidence builder that you have the suspect leg in the crosshairs. Bringing a ground directly from the B- (skipping ALL wire/connection) or B+ to your test point is very useful if only to build confidence. (Like you did with the AES tool.) While the tool is great a simple properly sized jumper for current will do the trick. Bypassing the “suspect” circuit leg with a jumper wire very quickly can confirm or reject your idea about the leg. If I can do it you can do it! Love what you do Eric! Thanks for taking us along!

@rickwalling1148 Жыл бұрын

Sometimes the frustration will make us make bad diagnosis and possibly miss the obviously problem! We’ve all had that happen ! You did a fabulous job in tracking down the problem and repairing it! This was a 1 in 10,000 problem! As you stated in the 1st video that the dealership said needed a new fuse box!! I’ve learned that you aren’t afraid to think outside the box!

@tonyshirley5674 Жыл бұрын

Intermittent problems are the hardest type to fix, and you did have control voltage the first time. Don't beat yourself up I doubt if many others would have found it better than you did. Keep up the good work!

@hypocrisyrulessociety Жыл бұрын

Awesome work! 99% mechanics would have walked away from that one. Now, you have another knowledge nugget added to your war chest.

@benjamincresswell3713 Жыл бұрын

During my 36yrs as a tech in engineering l earned the title "Ben tested tough" from the reluctant "cert" mechanics in the mechanic pool at GM because whenever l experienced a repeat failure I "finished it off" to make it obvious what the problem was. Mandatory attendance in quality meetings where management harped on us to reduce warranty costs by eliminating weak areas made me do it but some just didn't get it. Your only flaw was not giving the "fix" a harsh treatment test, ie, the "Ben test." E.O. I'd trust you implicitly, you are thorough. ben/ michigan

@turner0224 Жыл бұрын

A little Eric O. And a good cup of coffee…….. does it get any better ? Unless you were having your coffee sitting with Eric O. Ha ha ha

@snoopy5736 Жыл бұрын

I don't think he ever sits down

@kevinoscarson2941 Жыл бұрын

Pull the fender well. I work on lots of these trucks. In fleet trucks the fuse box cover is almost always gone. I kinda laughed a little when I saw you had to pull it. First time is very frustrating it feels like its going to come out, but it doesn’t!

@Joe_HamRadioGuy Жыл бұрын

You just having an off day. I know you edit the videos to keep the mother lover parts out but you have to be the best auto electrical mechanic I've ever seen. Most mechanics around my area would not even touch that. Love your work stay strong 💪🏼

Жыл бұрын

100%

@normanchandler2310 Жыл бұрын

I went back to the first video. The initial diagnosis was correct. The truck did need a new fuse box (which wasn't available) because most mechanics wouldn't want to invest the time and energy that it ultimately took to determine what the problem was within the fuse box. That is the problem today. Most mechanics would rather replace than determine what the cause of the problem actually was. In this case it was a disconnected wire inside the fuse box. I'm glad that you got it working and saved the day for the customer.

@tedwilliams8766 Жыл бұрын

eric, the fact that you repair as many vehicles you do on a daily basis by yourself makes you a better mechanic than most. with bad designs of spaghetti messes like ford makes, stupid crap is bound to happen. unlike some other wrench turners, you didnt get on the pitypot, stuck with the task at hand and made a customer happy despite idiots at ford. thanks for all the work you do to bring us your videos. been watching since 40k subs and my knowledge of repairing vehicles have grown thanks to you.

@pjp80s Жыл бұрын

You are one of the best automotive mechanics out there…. Appreciate your ability to be self critical and honest. Great work… wish you were closer to Connecticut

@j.p.9924 2 ай бұрын

I hope the amount of time and money you have saved so many people, not just your customers, is paid back to you 10 fold. Your skills and ability to explain your thoughts is greatly appreciated

@jedidiah4004 Жыл бұрын

intermittents can be a real ass-kicker especially if you aren't able to reliably duplicate the symptoms, nothing will stress your competence at electrical troubleshooting than chasing intermittents, it always seems so simple when you find the root cause but my god the path to get there. Great to see a guy doing his due diligence and taking care of customers, this is a great video, we need more guys like you.

@pmdiscyn Жыл бұрын

sometimes it do be like that mr O but as long as you learn something new your still going forward...

@wingman8447 Жыл бұрын

I’ve seen where someone has prick probed a wire and left a hole. The greenies creep in and rot. I’ve been chasing before. It sucks. Especially if you following behind someone. Anyway good video. Hang in there. Thank you.

@Mountain-Man-3000 Жыл бұрын

I hada feeling when it "fixed" itself after touching that relay this story wasn't over. Like you say, follow the process!

@iamnoone. Жыл бұрын

Mr. O, there be days like this then there are great days. I was a heavy mechanic for 32 years so I know your pain

@johndesaavedra1040 Жыл бұрын

There is a real possibility that a broken wire could have damaged the relay by over-working and arcing the contacts. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

@bigkenny93 Жыл бұрын

Free tip Tuesday for you Eric. Pull the inner fender out and it's a lot easier to mess with that stupid fuse box!

@mbs5328 Жыл бұрын

The two videos that make up this case study were a very informative case study for me. I'm glad Mr. O decided to upload them.

@pblair61 Жыл бұрын

Eric as an aircraft mechanic for 40 yrs I wish I had a dollar for every time I said "if I could get my hands on the engineer who designed this" . I wish I lived near you, you would be the only one who worked on my vehicles. Keep up the good work. 👍

@JeffWinter1 Жыл бұрын

The good news is that after a rough day, you can go home and dig out a stump to get rid of all that frustration.😉👍

@whiteslick00 Жыл бұрын

I get the same way working on semi's there's a point where you just say I'm done...We all feel you on that one Eric!!!

@ThePacolicious Жыл бұрын

Honestly, hearing Eric O. beat himself up over something which he is an expert made me feel better about myself doing the same thing when I mess up. It's nice to see you're human and brave enough to not edit it out.

@MikeBrown-ii3pt Жыл бұрын

I swear that when you said "maybe I should just quit", I heard that truck, and every other vehicle at the shop say "don't quit Dr. O! We need you!

@dalemyers3945 Жыл бұрын

It’s amazing how many times I’ve watched you find broken or corroded wires and terminals, it must be New York salt. The salt up there must be different than the salt down here. I always watch for the conclusion of your diagnosis, then it makes sense of the steps you take. Thanks for taking the time to post these videos.

@chasekacick2824 Жыл бұрын

Eric O. - you are a mechanical Dr House as far as I’m concerned. Never give up! You have to be one of the best techs I have ever seen and a bit of an automotive hero to me. Mistake or not your diagnostic work is always on point!!

@jimrodgers3684 Жыл бұрын

"Flying lessons" for the fuse box lid. Perfect.

@donaldpeterson9521 Жыл бұрын

Logic, step by step, frustration normal, finally fixed!! Great job. Keep up the great work. Been there done that, not fun at times, BUT in the end satisfaction that problem solved!!

@Fna2022 Жыл бұрын

Hey Eric. I’ve work on these quite a bit up on the Alaskan oil field. The best way that I’ve found to access the bottom of the box is by dropping the wheel liner and then you can have it hang low enough to work on. I had this very ckt rub through behind the left headlight housing. Too late now but easier next time. Thanks for posting the vids even though you were ticked about it. It is super lame that Ford doesn’t make it serviceable or even easy to access for that matter.

@a-a-ron2686 Жыл бұрын

I had a 250 for about 3 weeks intermittent stall and battery drain. Turns out the 3rd brake light was leaking during moderate rain soaking the RTM and waking errything up.

@blucollarron Жыл бұрын

No young fella , don't dis yourself , I'm 15 years into this longer than you and you know 10 x than I ever will . Thanks for what you do .

@jaredmigdal Жыл бұрын

Eric O. don’t get discouraged! You’re kicking butt and teaching all of us every day. Thank you for sharing your process with us. Any other shop would have had this guy in the hole whole for an entire harness and an ECU. You rock!

@JTIZZO Жыл бұрын

Whenever that happens to me I call it "unbroken" instead of "fixed". It happens to me way to often that something isn't working and before I diagnose it, the problem is fixed, so I started saying "I didn't fix it, I unbroken it". Much love to you are your family Eric! 🤘🤘🤘

@JackdeDuCoeur Жыл бұрын

If I recall correctly, the other shop diagnosed the problem as requiring a new fusebox that was unavailable. Sell that guy a battery! Very nice work!

@m1greg125 Жыл бұрын

Anyone who works on vehicles has those hating my job days! I bet you had a few new names for the engineers off camera! 😁 Great work on solving the problem AGAIN!

@Tommy_Mac Жыл бұрын

Eric O. is awesome! Considering the amount of electronics in today's vehicles, I hope most other technicians are being provided with an electronics-based automotive training. Electrical systems were so rudimentary when I received automotive training in the '70s, I wound up attending an electronics school to learn. I hope that has changed.

@attilakohbor3360 Жыл бұрын

No , it got more complicated with software like autosar .

@nec3f Жыл бұрын

FWIW, I clearly remember you pulling the relay in the first video and saying 'we should have two hots' and you found two hots. IIRC, that's why you swapped the relay in the first place.

@wormopolis9802 Жыл бұрын

"give it flying lessons" is now my favorite phrase of describing several parts that have frustrated me before...

@williamrobinson146 Жыл бұрын

When You can talk to Yourself, Talk to viewers all at the same time you have talent. Great Vids!

@mattmanyam Жыл бұрын

That control wire, when it was making a connection, was still probably at a reduced voltage (even for a low draw on the relay coil) could have been too weak to close the relay contacts enough to prevent arcing/deterioration of the contacts (I know you took a brief look at them), and could have made the relay just as unreliable as the broken wire... I'd be curious to take little closer look at the old relay, if it wasn't long gone in the trash.

@Tsnor150 Жыл бұрын

You see the old relay (a bit) in the first video

@SteelheadTed Жыл бұрын

He opened the old relay in the previous video. No visual signs of failure.

@PhillyDee215 Жыл бұрын

👨‍🔧Don't give up my boy. Come back or not the fact is that they didn't need an entire fuse box that the other shop tried to sell them

@oldbiker9739 Жыл бұрын

that is so true

@PhillyDee215 Жыл бұрын

@@oldbiker9739 yup.....

@larryallenjr2834 Жыл бұрын

MR. O, now we know why when the other garage said when they hit the fuse box, it would work and they said it needed a different fuse box. The wire was broke. Your the guy, you find the issue and fix it. The other garage just wanted to replace the whole fuse box. Way to go. Love the way you diagnose the issue further. 👍😊🔧

@tomwest8663 Жыл бұрын

Stop being so hard on yourself Eric, as they say crap happens. You are still one of the most honest and caring mechanics I've seen.

@PaulysAuto Жыл бұрын

You didn't misdiagnose anything, you did what any honest guy would do and you went with the most obvious answer on the 1st video and not only that you properly tested the circuits as you always do. It's an intermittent how much time do you want to bill? Relay is cheaper than labor regardless. I thought this was an excellent video series; so thanks a lot for sharing it with us Eric; hope all is well and I'm glad to see you're feeling better. God bless brother 🙌 🙏 Let's go Brandon 😂

@Sean006 Жыл бұрын

It was a difficult problem to find. Intermittant problems can have you chasing yourself in circles. He got there in the end and it would have saved the customer a wiring loom replacement at another garage. Eric's method does work. 👍Didin't help that he had a cold.

@PaulysAuto Жыл бұрын

@@Sean006 Absolutely.

@anasawadallah2764 Жыл бұрын

All the respect to your work ethics I enjoy watching your videos I am also a mechanic I love complex cases , it feels good when you solve issues others couldn’t …

@chucknorisnunchucks Жыл бұрын

That fella used that impact for what felt like centuries.

@RyanHull76 Жыл бұрын

Another excellent process video. Makes all the difference when you formulate a plan and stick with it!

@DrLee65 Жыл бұрын

After your 2nd diagnosis, I said the same thing, as you suspected the problem was under the box. Good job, Mr. O 👍🏾

@titanus49 Жыл бұрын

I also thought the same thing. Many times electrical problem nightmares are the hidden wires under fuse/relay box due to either corrosion or broken wires. First time I have ever seen Eric get really pissed with the job he was doing.

@djmartin4776 Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure I remember you checking for both power and grounds on that relay. You did everything right. Just a rare anomaly

@AaronBelknap Жыл бұрын

If memory serves, you did check all of that! I think the wire was still conducting intermittently. Solid fix. Don't worry about it. You're the most thorough, honest mechanic I've seen in my life. I don't even trust oil changers. I mark the filter before going in the old days. I just change my own. I've even diagnosed an alternator problem on my truck using your methods, checking voltages etc. Bought an alternator rebuild kit and back up and running!

@yhird Жыл бұрын

No, I don't think it was your fault Eric. You are the most thorough automotive diagnostician I know. The fact that someone else was poking around under the hood leads me to suspect the whole story is not being told. Cheers.

@Wayne-Jones Жыл бұрын

After recently watching your first video, I think your first fix was correct, I don’t need to tell you that it’s possible to have two issues on the same problem, unfortunately, do you think the customer would believe you, I doubt it. Good job Eric as usual 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@geordiegixxer Жыл бұрын

Well done finding that, I watched your other vid on this and I seriously don't think you misdiagnosed it. The rats nest under the fuse board could have hidden many special secrets and you took your time to find it. Good on ya Eric. Top job as normal.

@gusglaros5603 Жыл бұрын

Your the man Mr O. !!! I was just telling a friend how just seem to find that one bad wire among the spaghetti!!!!

@javierbetancourt8225 3 күн бұрын

How many times have I said, "maybe I should just give up, not be a mechanic anymore". Mr. Eric O. I feel your pain brother!

@el69chingon Жыл бұрын

So I’ve been watching your videos for a few months now and your trouble shooting skills are impeccable. I have learned a tremendous amount just by watching your vids. Thanks for taking us along on your troubleshooting adventures. BTW…greetings from South Texas and I don’t mean San Antonio. lol

@matthewrpociask8307 Жыл бұрын

Eric let me tell you I think you are One of the best damn mechanics I have ever seen in my life. I watch your videos all the time I learned so much from you I just wish you were closer by the war you're at to me you would be my mechanic barnun.

@TraceElements-ti5ke Жыл бұрын

No...No...No Don't quit. I need this exhibit of determination!!!!!!

@Stryder-mc1lu 6 ай бұрын

Eric , I think you're one of the best I've ever seen at what you do. As a retired engineer I understand your frustration with designs that are ... stupid ! The reason I understand is that frequently we had to deal with "Bean Counters" that removed items or otherwise altered our systems to save $$, without any considerations for safety or maintenance . When that happens you can speak out about it, but $$ profits usually win out.

@bigdaddymak1439 Жыл бұрын

Sometimes you're way too hard on yourself but that's what makes you an honest guy also! Feel good that you didn't throw the parts cannon at the problem like the other shop that would cost your customer a lot of money! Keep your head up and thanks for what you do!